From kfitz at halcyon.com  Sat Jan  1 02:52:24 2000
From: kfitz at halcyon.com (kfitz)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:52:24 -0800
Subject: Talent
Message-ID: <200001010111.RAA15315@mail4.halcyon.com>

> Don Rosa to Abdulmonem Abbas:
> 
> > No one is "gifted" with a "talent".
> 

I believe talent is a gift to be shared with those who appreciate it.  To
me, it seems like there is a universal source out there and occasionally
one taps into it and comes out with a wonderful idea they can express via
their talent. Some like Don Rosa seem to be connected all of the time!

Ideas and talent that I have never felt like "mine" rather something I have
been able to utilities.  The minute I think something is due to me, the
ideas quit coming, regardless of what I am working on.  

Sadly I think many people do not ever discover or use the talent(s) they
have access to and those people probably never discover the happiness it
can bring.

-Kathy



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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sat Jan  1 16:56:17 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:56:17 +0100
Subject: Slovenia, article
Message-ID: <200001011555.QAA89168@mail.mira.dk>

Hi
I was lucky in the last days of 1999, I finally find the only extra I
missed for my weekly collection, so
it's now complete back to 1978. 
The 30th I found a comic with Mickey in Slovenian. There's some
one-pagers and the Barks-story 
foxy relations in that issue. Rearranged to be 13 pages with 3-tiers (2
panels are gone). I love to have 
foreign issues so i was happy to find that.
Later we visitted some friends, and the mother had found an article in
a local news-paper, about the 
Quest for Kalevala! A very positve article from a press-agency
(Ritzau).
I'm going to translate it and put it online, but I'll tell you this: It
says there are plans to publish a book
with the story in Denmark too... This of course sounds good, but I'm
not sure I believe it!

Hoping all technical installations are functioning at your house too,
have a good year.

AC



From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Tue Jan  4 00:54:52 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:54:52 +0100
Subject: 70th anniversary of the daily sttip!!!
References: <200001021100.MAA06684@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000103.184752.7022.1.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

With the 70th anniversary of the MM Daily strip coming up in less than
two weeks, is any publisher doing anything to commemorate this?  I think
we would've heard if anything is being done in the US, but maybe I just
haven't heard about it yet.

~~~Rodney.

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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Tue Jan  4 01:33:29 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:33:29 +0100
Subject: Tarzan?
Message-ID: <200001040032.BAA13656@mail.mira.dk>

Hi
I would like to know: Did a comic with the adaption of the 
movie tarzan come out in your country? Our weekly has
had a tradition of publishing the movie-adaptions, but I guess
they stopped, as they do with many nice traditions, or maybe
thew adaption was too bad? In Greece  saw adaptions of 
Bug's Life and Simbas pride. maybe Tarzan has been published
in Megalo Miky?
I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
Might it be out as a one-shot anywhere?
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Tue Jan  4 13:55:54 2000
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:55:54 +0100
Subject: Tarzan
Message-ID: <0.8f22bdae.25a34719@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/4/00 6:01:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dcml-admin at numerus.LING.UU.SE writes:

> I would like to know: Did a comic with the adaption of the 
>  movie tarzan come out in your country?

yes in the USA.
  Dark Horse put out a 2 issue series.
Not sure if Disney Adventures did one or not...

Steven Rowe



From dghez at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  3 09:46:12 2000
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:46:12 PST
Subject: Gottfredson again
Message-ID: <20000103084612.42666.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi and Happy New Year to all of the DCML members.

Following the recent discussion about Gottfredson complete daily strip 
collection, I started to wonder if anyone had published in the past a 
complete collection of the Sunday stories.

I apologize in advance if this question had already been answered 
previously.

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From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Tue Jan  4 15:06:07 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:06:07 +0100
Subject: Tarzan???
References: <200001041100.MAA23415@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00b101bf56ba$27373ae0$ec189eca@cbn.net.id>

> Hi
> I would like to know: Did a comic with the adaption of the
> movie tarzan come out in your country?
Yes in my country.

> I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
Huh? Oh, wha? Scandinavians? Ups, sorry about that.

> Might it be out as a one-shot anywhere?
Yep, here in my country it was printed as a one-shot. There are still some
left of it in some bookstores.

Arie Fachrisal ^_^




From wanders at usa.com  Tue Jan  4 15:24:09 2000
From: wanders at usa.com (Wes Andersen)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:24:09 +0100
Subject: MM Daily
Message-ID: <384572178.946995662099.JavaMail.root@web32.pub01>

Rodney wrote: "With the 70th anniversary of the MM Daily strip coming up in less than 
two weeks, is any publisher doing anything to commemorate this?"

Don't know about that, but for those who are interested in reading the MM Daily, you can get it over the internet by going to www.mercurycenter.com and signing up for a personal comics page. The MM Daily is available. This week, it actually appears that a mystery might be starting, rather than just a daily gag! It may be too much to hope for.

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From lascif at online.fr  Tue Jan  4 20:50:58 2000
From: lascif at online.fr (oliv)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:50:58 +0100
Subject: Picsou Magazine #336
Message-ID: <000201bf56ea$a8883ce0$e32e1bd4@wilf>

Hello ev'rybudy

Here's what can be found in the last
Pic Mag #336

a Don Rosa pin-up which illustrates W US 22-02
Barks' "The golden river"

AR 145, "His majesty, Mc Duck"
AR 143, "The curse of Nostrildamus"
by Don Rosa

W US 22-02, "The golden river"
W OS   62-02, "Frozen gold"
by Carl Barks

One Taliaferro's gag
YD 39-03-09

Aaaaalaaaaas *only one* gag....
but a full pack of advertisements
and let's forget the cover which is looking
as a soap packet as usal.

At least for the cover, they should :
1st : reduce the size of the titles
2nd : use a better finalized picture

You are in the Picsou editorial staff ?
You know what to do.

oliv

PS : there's a rumour about the change 
of the name of this mag which should
be "Don and Carl Mag"

PPS : Don't even mistake, i adore these authors
but too much is too much. Eat chocolate every day
and you'll see if you still love it.

PPPS : PM promised us to print *all* the Barks' Gladstone
stories along approximatly 18 issues.
That's such a long time they leave this idea.

Finally... if you want to join the PicMag "specialist" 
by email :
picsoumagdhp at hfp.fr

I'm sure you can ask more than a "special" question






From ole.roc at get2net.dk  Tue Jan  4 22:03:25 2000
From: ole.roc at get2net.dk (Ole Reichstein Nielsen)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:03:25 +0100
Subject: Tarzan graphic novel
References: <200001041100.MAA23413@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000d01bf56f6$440b5480$22882fc3@roc>

AC:
> I would like to know: Did a comic with the adaption of the 
> movie tarzan come out in your country? Our weekly has
> had a tradition of publishing the movie-adaptions, but I guess
> they stopped, as they do with many nice traditions, or maybe
> thew adaption was too bad? In Greece  saw adaptions of 
> Bug's Life and Simbas pride. maybe Tarzan has been published
> in Megalo Miky?
> I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
> Might it be out as a one-shot anywhere?

I suppose the Danish publisher decided that with all the half
dozen other versions of the story targeted at various age groups
it was kind of stupid to give away the only regular comic version
with the weekly. Not that I've seen the various merchandize for
this movie, but it's as much a tradition as the christmas supple-
ment issue. Which wasn't saved away btw, but had a coverless
reprint of the 50es edition of the Barks one-shot "You Can't Guess".
The Tarzan story looks good, I can tell from the Dutch serialized
edition.

oLe
_U




From j.heino at pp1.inet.fi  Wed Jan  5 00:01:29 2000
From: j.heino at pp1.inet.fi (Janne Heino)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:01:29 +0100
Subject: Tarzan ?
References: <200001041100.MAA23368@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <003601bf5706$6836b7e0$9f03a5c3@default>

Here in Finland the Tarzan story was published in three parts in the middle of the Aku Ankka weekly. Well I liked it !!

Janne Heino
j.hieno at pp1.inet.fi 




From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Wed Jan  5 11:19:23 2000
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Dr. Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:19:23 +0100
Subject: Tarzan comic book adaptation
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000105101810.0068f11c@ac.anatolia.edu.gr>

ANDERS:


>I would like to know: Did a comic with the adaption of the 
>movie tarzan come out in your country? Our weekly has
>had a tradition of publishing the movie-adaptions, but I guess
>they stopped, as they do with many nice traditions, or maybe
>thew adaption was too bad? In Greece  saw adaptions of 
>Bug's Life and Simbas pride. maybe Tarzan has been published
>in Megalo Miky?


The comic book version of Walt Disney's animated feature "Tarzan" has indeed
appeared in the January 2000 issue of "Megalo Mickey" and can be picked from
the news-stands as we speak. In addition to the "Tarzan" adaptation, this
extra-thick issue (thickest so far, they claim!) also features Almanacco
Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972). 

Have a Happy and Prosperous 2000!

Holiday Cheers,

Archontis




From arciprete at fs-asapax.com  Wed Jan  5 13:25:27 2000
From: arciprete at fs-asapax.com (Ugo Dell'Arciprete)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:25:27 +0100
Subject: R: DCML digest, Vol 1 #41 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <01bf5777$d676d520$6f03bfc3@arciprete>

>DCML digest, Vol 1 #41 - 2 msgs


I was a bit surprised that the numbering of this digests continues through
the change of year (not millennium, as widely debated here! :-)), I expected
Vol 2 #01. When will volume 2 start?
Anyway happy 2000 to everybody!
Ugo




From mrhode at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  5 14:43:20 2000
From: mrhode at hotmail.com (Michael Rhode)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:43:20 +0100
Subject: Article on Don's Kalevala
Message-ID: <20000105134326.51717.qmail@hotmail.com>

Gene Kannenberg who runs the Comics Scholar's List passed this along to me 
for the list:


From lascif at online.fr  Wed Jan  5 14:52:46 2000
From: lascif at online.fr (oliv)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:52:46 +0100
Subject: Picsou Magazine #336 addendum
Message-ID: <001e01bf5781$d422a060$ed2f1bd4@wilf>

Oops !
I forgot to mention one story in Picsou Mag #336

AR 128, "Fortune on the rocks" by Don Rosa


Oliv

Did i tell you the cover is rose pink fluo colored ?






From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan  5 16:01:39 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:01:39 +0100
Subject: Tarzan and Picsou
Message-ID: <200001051500.QAA90614@mail.mira.dk>

My question about Tarzan was answered many times. Thanks:-)

STEVEN
> yes in the USA.
>   Dark Horse put out a 2 issue series.
> Not sure if Disney Adventures did one or not...
I see. well, maybe I should go for that version, as i can read
american.
 
ARIE
> > I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
> Huh? Oh, wha? Scandinavians? Ups, sorry about that.
No, don't be sorry, that was actually meant the other way. 
I didn't expect the scandinavians to answer, cause our weeklies 
are almost the same, apart from titles and some stories that we 
decide ourselves.

OLIVIER
> PS : there's a rumour about the change 
> of the name of this mag which should
> be "Don and Carl Mag"
Isn't this crossing the line a bit? If the really did that it would
stop any other artists from those being in the mag... I'm a fan 
of both, but I like to read other artists too... 
already the prize in american currency of the mag is "Duckburg: 
10 cents as usual" :-)

> PPPS : PM promised us to print *all* the Barks' Gladstone
> stories along approximatly 18 issues.
> That's such a long time they leave this idea.
Did they not keep that promise or what? 
well already the list of the stories, in that Picsou-mag with the
Gladstone-pin-up was incomplete...

> Finally... if you want to join the PicMag "specialist" 
> by email :
> picsoumagdhp at hfp.fr
What is that about?
and would one have to write something in the subject line?

OLE
> I suppose the Danish publisher decided that with all the half
> dozen other versions of the story targeted at various age groups
> it was kind of stupid to give away the only regular comic version
> with the weekly. 
You're right there... but then they could have published it along-side
all the other books, as a one-shot. 

> Not that I've seen the various merchandize for
> this movie, but it's as much a tradition as the christmas supple-
> ment issue.
And this tradition even one year caused that there were two extras in
december. one with Lion King and a reprint of another christmas parade.

> Which wasn't saved away btw, but had a coverless
> reprint of the 50es edition of the Barks one-shot "You Can't Guess".
coverless, yes... the first page used as a cover... pretty annoying for
us inducksers...

> The Tarzan story looks good, I can tell from the Dutch serialized
> edition.
I see. well, you know what I will want to see when we next meet:-)
 
JANNE
> Here in Finland the Tarzan story was published in three parts in the
middle of the Aku Ankka weekly. Well I liked it !!
Argh... this is starting to sound that we're the only ones left out...
and I suppose all you others have Tarzan-merchandise along side that
serial? 3 parts? did they make those annoying summary panels then??

ARCHONTIS

> In addition to the "Tarzan" adaptation, this
> extra-thick issue (thickest so far, they claim!)
Isn't that true?

> also features Almanacco Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il
> drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972). 
Sounds nice, as far as I can tell...

AC



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan  5 16:01:40 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:01:40 +0100
Subject: Tarzan and Picsou
Message-ID: <200001051500.QAA90613@mail.mira.dk>

My question about Tarzan was answered many times. Thanks:-)

STEVEN
> yes in the USA.
>   Dark Horse put out a 2 issue series.
> Not sure if Disney Adventures did one or not...
I see. well, maybe I should go for that version, as i can read
american.
 
ARIE
> > I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
> Huh? Oh, wha? Scandinavians? Ups, sorry about that.
No, don't be sorry, that was actually meant the other way. 
I didn't expect the scandinavians to answer, cause our weeklies 
are almost the same, apart from titles and some stories that we 
decide ourselves.

OLIVIER
> PS : there's a rumour about the change 
> of the name of this mag which should
> be "Don and Carl Mag"
Isn't this crossing the line a bit? If the really did that it would
stop any other artists from those being in the mag... I'm a fan 
of both, but I like to read other artists too... 
already the prize in american currency of the mag is "Duckburg: 
10 cents as usual" :-)

> PPPS : PM promised us to print *all* the Barks' Gladstone
> stories along approximatly 18 issues.
> That's such a long time they leave this idea.
Did they not keep that promise or what? 
well already the list of the stories, in that Picsou-mag with the
Gladstone-pin-up was incomplete...

> Finally... if you want to join the PicMag "specialist" 
> by email :
> picsoumagdhp at hfp.fr
What is that about?
and would one have to write something in the subject line?

OLE
> I suppose the Danish publisher decided that with all the half
> dozen other versions of the story targeted at various age groups
> it was kind of stupid to give away the only regular comic version
> with the weekly. 
You're right there... but then they could have published it along-side
all the other books, as a one-shot. 

> Not that I've seen the various merchandize for
> this movie, but it's as much a tradition as the christmas supple-
> ment issue.
And this tradition even one year caused that there were two extras in
december. one with Lion King and a reprint of another christmas parade.

> Which wasn't saved away btw, but had a coverless
> reprint of the 50es edition of the Barks one-shot "You Can't Guess".
coverless, yes... the first page used as a cover... pretty annoying for
us inducksers...

> The Tarzan story looks good, I can tell from the Dutch serialized
> edition.
I see. well, you know what I will want to see when we next meet:-)
 
JANNE
> Here in Finland the Tarzan story was published in three parts in the
middle of the Aku Ankka weekly. Well I liked it !!
Argh... this is starting to sound that we're the only ones left out...
and I suppose all you others have Tarzan-merchandise along side that
serial? 3 parts? did they make those annoying summary panels then??

ARCHONTIS

> In addition to the "Tarzan" adaptation, this
> extra-thick issue (thickest so far, they claim!)
Isn't that true?

> also features Almanacco Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il
> drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972). 
Sounds nice, as far as I can tell...

AC



From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Thu Jan  6 03:01:03 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 03:01:03 +0100
Subject: MM sunday stories
References: <200001051100.MAA05459@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000105.205416.9382.4.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

I don't know if a single collection of sunday stories has been published.
 but, I believe that Gladstone and Disney have published most, if not
all, of these stories in recent years, and they should be *fairly* easy
to find.  (I say fairly bcz I'm having troubles finding certain MM issues
from Gladstone, but I might be looking in all the wrong places!)

~~~Rodney.

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From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Thu Jan  6 10:12:26 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:12:26 +0100
Subject: MM sunday stories
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76BBE@l04.research.kpn.com>

Rodney:

> I don't know if a single collection of sunday stories has 
> been published.
>  but, I believe that Gladstone and Disney have published most, if not
> all, of these stories in recent years

Our index shows that a *lot* of MM sunday pages have *not* been reprinted in
the US recently.
See http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/sunday-mickey-mouse.html, where the
US reprints are marked with "us:".

BTW, most (at least all of the older) MM strips *have* been published in
Holland. They are not all noted in the index, because some of the Dutch
issues have not been indexed yet.

--Harry.
I.N.D.U.C.K.S. - the Disney comics database
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From VMT399 at aol.com  Thu Jan  6 13:46:32 2000
From: VMT399 at aol.com (VMT399@aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:46:32 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #43 - 7 msgs
Message-ID: <91.91c04698.25a5e866@aol.com>

 " help"



From wanders at usa.com  Thu Jan  6 15:15:57 2000
From: wanders at usa.com (Wes Andersen)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:15:57 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #43 - 7 msgs
Message-ID: <383612286.947167971609.JavaMail.root@web36.pub01>

An excerpt from yesterday's Reuters wire:

<<    In a letter to stockholders, Eisner said Disney needed a
"relentless focus on operations and on the implementation of
new strategies" to return the company to a growth track.
    Disney stockholders spent much of 1999 on the sidelines of
the bull market as the company struggled with flagging sales
for consumer products and lower product licensing revenues. Low
ratings led to reduced advertising rates at its ABC television
network. >>
    
See what happens when you keep the comics off the shelves, Michael.
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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Thu Jan  6 19:57:06 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:57:06 +0100
Subject: Wagner
Message-ID: <200001061856.TAA24212@mail.mira.dk>

Hi
We are very helpfull here:-) The fact that I got 5 replies out of 8 in
one of the newest digest, and more in the following to my question 
about Tarzan tells that we help when we can. 
In another case I helped myself though: Some weeks ago I told about 
the danish publication of Kalevala ... I complained about the
reference: "Rosa used this music-example before" which they said, 
but they  didn't tell where... But that was just typical, maybe they 
didn't bother find it? Or maybe it was in the origianl comments, but 
they took it out??

So Louhi plays Wagner. and who else? the lorry-driver who 
Gladstone meats in Don's jubilee-story for him, The sign of the 
Triple Distle-fink.

BTW I hope this mail looks okay? No annoying line-shifts?

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Fri Jan  7 00:23:50 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:23:50 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #43 - 7 msgs
References: <200001061100.MAA10555@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000106.181706.3414.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

sorry........i didnt mean all sunday *pages* just continuities from the
sunday pages.  sorry for the confusion.

~~~Rodney.

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From troschke at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Fri Jan  7 11:05:11 2000
From: troschke at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (Sven-Oliver Troschke)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:05:11 +0100
Subject: German version of the Kalevala story
Message-ID: <3875BA20.90B5E5C4@amadeus.statistik.uni-dortmund.de>

A happy new year to all of you!

Since there was only one comment on the German edition
of Don Rosa?s Kalevala story on this list I thought I might
throw in my two cents:

First of all I want to say that I like the story very much.
I like the story as such, but it is a special pleasure to read
it with all the background information in mind which I
could collect from this mailing list.

The German publisher decided to produce the story in a
single issue (Micky Maus weekly 1/2000) in contrast to
Scandinavia where it came out in three consecutive issues.
And there were no advertisements within the story, which
we otherwise usually see. So we could read the complete
story in one go, which is a good thing. Furthermore the
background of the pages (the part which usually is plain
white) is coloured in red with yellow flashes of lightning.
One may like that or not, it sure added something special
to that special story.

(BTW in this issue of Micky Maus they started to credit the
translator of the stories as well (up to now only the author
and the artist were credited).)

And this story?s translator Peter Daibenzeiher did a very
good job: He employed the rune-o-metric style of the
Kalevala and was very sensible for the corresponding old-
fashioned language and the atmosphere thereby created.
Occasionally he dropped in some modern elements in that
ancient language, which was according to Don Rosa?s plans,
as I remember from one of his earlier postings. And, yes,
these parts of the dialog have been printed in a special font
as it was intended by Don. Additionally, all the Finnish
names have been used and were not transformed into funny
names.

Unfortunately, I feel that one major error occured in the
translation process. It concerns the Yukon-dialog which has
been discussed earlier on this list. From the German translation
you really get the impression that Vainy offers Scrooge
to take him back to (a heavenly version of) the Klondike
and to Goldie. In the following I will try to give a re-trans-
lation of that part, where Scrooge holds tight to the Sampo
while Vainy?s ship is going up into the sky:

V: Beyond the northern light lies your aim! But consider
     carefully if you are really ready to leave all transient
     things. Because existence ends here!

V: If this should be your will, I will give you a present,
     for you have helped me, freed me from the chains and
     created the Sampo.

V: The secret of your deepest dreams, even the well of
     your strength, I see it and can feel it, that icy far off
     place, grown stiff by frost, but for your joy, its image
     often warms your chest.
S: The ... Yukon?

V: To that place I will abduct you, friend, which you have
     become to me, eternal wealth awaits you, and a heart,
     which already hopes since long, long awaits your coming
     back. Now tell me, are you ready?

S:  No.

I am afraid that this translation is quite contrary to Don?s
intention of what is going on. And I must admit that I was
more than puzzled when I first read this part of the story,
which would not have happened with Don?s original text.

If my feeling is right, maybe it is possible to correct this part
before the story is re-printed in the beautiful Don Rosa album
series which we have here in Germany.

And maybe we will be able to see the extra page of the Fin-
nish edition (or even the 6 extra pages of the coming Aku
Ankka reprint) in our album series as well. Meanwhile, can
somebody please tell us non-Finns how Scrooge gets back
his hat in the end of the story. This bit seems to be part of
that extra page in the Finnish book edition, and we will not be
able to see it in the near future.

But again I want to emphasise that the story as such as well
as this publication is very enjoyable. A brilliant opener for
the year 2000.

All the best
Sven






From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Fri Jan  7 19:12:06 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:12:06 +0100
Subject: 34th page of kalevala
Message-ID: <200001071811.TAA26095@mail.mira.dk>

SVEN wrote
> And maybe we will be able to see the extra page of the Fin-
> nish edition (or even the 6 extra pages of the coming Aku
> Ankka reprint) in our album series as well. Meanwhile, can
> somebody please tell us non-Finns how Scrooge gets back
> his hat in the end of the story. This bit seems to be part of
> that extra page in the Finnish book edition, and we will not be
> able to see it in the near future.

I answer: hey! haven't you noticed that the (my and a lot of helpers') 
duckhunt calendar showed the 34th page as the very special surprise 
for Christmas Eve's day?
I can send you the scans if you're not able to download it...
I even think duckhunt.de has a problem at the moment...
try: 
http://www.geocities.com/acsive/newxmas.html
, and then bottom right.

AC



From a.kloppenburg at chello.nl  Sat Jan  8 01:12:25 2000
From: a.kloppenburg at chello.nl (Ton Kloppenburg)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:12:25 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa
Message-ID: <000301bf596c$6f72d580$e468bbd4@a.kloppenburg.chello.nl>

I want some pictures and information about Keno don Rosa
Thank you

Sander




From marco.barlotti at cce.unifi.it  Sat Jan  8 15:39:17 2000
From: marco.barlotti at cce.unifi.it (Marco Barlotti)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:39:17 +0100
Subject: Israelian Disney Comics
In-Reply-To: <200001011100.MAA02282@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000108125818.007c6100@cce.unifi.it>

At 22:10:20 30/12/1999 +0100, Vidar Svendsen wrote:
>
>I've just spent christmas in Israel (returned today), [...]
>
>I bought two comics published by Egmont at Ben Gurion airport

Rats! I've been scooped!
I was to Israel for New Year's Eve (and a few days after that), and I also
bought a Disney Comic featuring Donald Duck. I let alone the Winnie-Pooh
one...

Let's hope we have different issues! Mine is dated 2nd january 2000.
I'll make just two comments for now: there are very few comics in the
issue: two six-pagers, one three-pager and a Taliaferro gag. Totalling 16
pages out of 48, exactly 1/3. In the Italian "Topolino" there are about 160
pages of comics out of a total of 190...
And: it's a hard job for the indexers! While reversing the pages (because
the Israelians, like the arabs, read "backward"...) they ERASE the code! So
there remains only the tiny rectangular box in the splash-panel, but no
code in it!!!

So how shall we index these issues? Maybe I'll put on-line a scan of the
splash-panels, in case anyone is interested in recognizing the stories. Or
maybe David, at Egmont's, knows everything on the content of these issues?
 ;-)

    Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics





From marco.barlotti at cce.unifi.it  Sat Jan  8 15:39:15 2000
From: marco.barlotti at cce.unifi.it (Marco Barlotti)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:39:15 +0100
Subject: Kandelor
In-Reply-To: <200001061100.MAA10546@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000108122740.007c3790@cce.unifi.it>

ARCHONTIS

> also features Almanacco Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il
> drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972). 

This is a story from the "Studio Program" (S-coded, but we don't know the
code!). And it was drawn by Scarpa only (and inked by Cavazzano). Carpi had
nothing to do with it (I wonder what made you think of him...).

    Marco





From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sat Jan  8 19:44:55 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:55 +0100
Subject: Sv: DCML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <200001081843.TAA16363@mail.mira.dk>

Hi
> From: "Ton Kloppenburg" <a.kloppenburg at chello.nl>
> I want some pictures and information about Keno don Rosa
> Thank you
I see

well, to commerce a bit for the page of which I am a member myself:
go to http://www.duckhunt.de and if you don't find what you need via
the 
mainpage and links, feel free to ask here. Or me.

AC



From rlp at ibm.net  Sun Jan  9 08:55:40 2000
From: rlp at ibm.net (ben, kris, & ross)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:55:40 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs
References: <200001081100.MAA29974@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <38783F2D.55A46A69@ibm.net>

greetings duck fans!

i have not posted in a long time and i was curious if the fine art of the
duck clan has returned to the united states in comics? ( - since gladstone
stopped making the comics?)  i eagerly awaited the gladstone comics (and i
must say - the disney produced ones while they were out) and am still sad
that they stopped.  if anyone can help me out and let me know if i have
missed the start of the return of the ducks (donald, uncle $crooge or
others) to the english language.

any input is welcome.  sorry for my language deficiency (am only read
english text but the pictures speak for themselves - especially rosa
artwork!) but i need the english text.

thanks, ross
rlp at ibm.net
austin, texas, usa





From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  9 12:55:23 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:55:23 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <20000109115535.88580.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "ben, kris, & ross" <rlp at ibm.net>

>i have not posted in a long time and i was curious if the fine art of the 
>duck clan has returned to the united states in comics? ( - since gladstone 
>stopped making the comics

No. There aren't still any Disney comics published in the US.

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From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Sun Jan  9 20:04:03 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:04:03 +0100
Subject: barks jigsaw puzzle??
References: <200001081100.MAA29995@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000109.135737.3374.1.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

does anyone know where i can find a jigsaw puzzle of a barks oil
painting?  ive seen them in the past, but i dont remember where.


~~~Rodney.

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From lascif at online.fr  Mon Jan 10 01:19:38 2000
From: lascif at online.fr (oliv)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:19:38 +0100
Subject: comparison French/US Don Rosa
Message-ID: <000201bf5afd$f68377e0$e6291bd4@wilf>

Can any body send me a scan or the text
in american version of the page 3 and 5
of "AR 143 / The curse of Nostrildamus" ?
(by Don Rosa)

I would like to know what is really written here
by Don Rosa because there's two differrent
versions in french.


Thanks'n'bye bye

oliv




From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Mon Jan 10 11:23:36 2000
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Dr. Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:23:36 +0100
Subject: "Candelor" and Carpi?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000110102255.0067d818@ac.anatolia.edu.gr>

MARCO to ME:


>> also features Almanacco Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il
>> drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972). 
>
>This is a story from the "Studio Program" (S-coded, but we don't know the
>code!). And it was drawn by Scarpa only (and inked by Cavazzano). Carpi had
>nothing to do with it (I wonder what made you think of him...).


Oh, sorry for the mix-up. I meant that the "Megalo Miky" issue included
storie*s* by Carpi and Scarpa: one by Carpi and one by Scarpa. Then, I only
wrote the Scarpa story ("Candelor"), leaving out the separate Carpi story,
'cause I didn't know its code and original title...

Cheers,

Archontis




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Jan 10 13:16:08 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:16:08 +0100
Subject: Chocolate
In-Reply-To: <200001051100.MAA05459@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001101403360.15318-100000@dias>

OLIV:

> Eat chocolate every day
> and you'll see if you still love it.

I rarely eat chocolate, and I still don't care much about it. (Now,
if it were strawberry cheesecake...)

:-)

To get back on topic, is PM's almost exclusive printing of Barks and Rosa
stories similar to Gladstone's re-re-...-printing of Barks stories? If
so, I can understand your frustration. On the other hand, if this is the
only vehicle for printing these stories (e.g., there is no Barks or Rosa
in Mickey Parade), and the stories have not been printed in France for
some time, then this may not necessarily be a bad thing.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at princeton.edu)
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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Mon Jan 10 21:31:53 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:31:53 +0100
Subject: Blot's daughter
Message-ID: <200001102030.VAA21528@mail.mira.dk>

I seem not to be able to get connected with the online pages about
charecters.
I wonder if any of you can tell me something about Phantom Blot's
daughter. She popped up in issue 41 in 1999 in the danish weekly on
some fact-page. no references to any story. maybe you could give me
such a code for a story, so that i can look up the story, if there have
actually been published any stories with her in Europe.

Yours

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From nisse.krenchel at get2net.dk  Tue Jan 11 12:14:30 2000
From: nisse.krenchel at get2net.dk (Nisse Krenchel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:14:30 +0100
Subject: Phantom Blots daughter
References: <200001111100.MAA26580@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <008601bf5c25$acfd73e0$759961c3@avenir.dk>

Anders Christian Sivebaek:
> I seem not to be able to get connected with the online pages about
> charecters.
> I wonder if any of you can tell me something about Phantom Blot's
> daughter. She popped up in issue 41 in 1999 in the danish weekly on
> some fact-page. no references to any story. maybe you could give me
> such a code for a story, so that i can look up the story, if there have
> actually been published any stories with her in Europe.

The Phantom Blot's daughter appears in the MMA #8 issue. It is the famous issue with the John Byrne Cover-page - one of the absolute best cover pages with Mickey in the last 20 years!! The story itself is also among the very best modern Blot-stories IMHO.

Here is the details from INDUCKS:
Story code: KM 2690 
Number of pages: 12 
Written by: Lee Nordling 
Pencilled by: Stephen DeStefano 
Inked by: Gary Martin 
Layout: 3-tier 
All appearing characters: Mickey Mouse, Chief O'Hara, The Phantom Blot, Pluto, Goofy 
First published: 1991-01 
Publications: USA MMA 08 





From nisse.krenchel at get2net.dk  Tue Jan 11 12:25:33 2000
From: nisse.krenchel at get2net.dk (Nisse Krenchel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:25:33 +0100
Subject: Y2K bug in INDUCKS
References: <200001111100.MAA26580@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <009001bf5c27$38884d80$759961c3@avenir.dk>

The date in the bottom of the INDUCKS homepage looks like this:

"Last updated January 7, 19100."

Either Gyro has been updating the pages after a tour in one of his Time Machines - but that is not likely, since he didn't update INDUCKS from 2000 - 19100. So it is almost certainly a Y2K-bug.

Regards/Nisse





From Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr  Tue Jan 11 20:55:14 2000
From: Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr (Francois Willot)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:55:14 +0100
Subject: Picsou
Message-ID: <387B993B.CEB40F6@ec-lille.fr>

> To get back on topic, is PM's almost exclusive printing of Barks and Rosa
> stories similar to Gladstone's re-re-...-printing of Barks stories? If
> so, I can understand your frustration. On the other hand, if this is the
> only vehicle for printing these stories (e.g., there is no Barks or Rosa
> in Mickey Parade), and the stories have not been printed in France for
> some time, then this may not necessarily be a bad thing.

It is the only place where these stories are printed indeed.

In the latest issue, they made two typos, saying that "Nostradamus" and
"Rocks" were from 1949 (it must be 1989 instead).
One positive thing: to my knowledge, this is the first time in France
that "Frozen Gold" is published in its original format. The first panel
was unpublished too (I remember it was deleted in all previous
versions).

  Francois
  http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/index.uk.html



From lascif at online.fr  Wed Jan 12 03:59:18 2000
From: lascif at online.fr (oliv)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:59:18 +0100
Subject: Kriton : chocolate
Message-ID: <000301bf5c8c$a0929100$8c2b1bd4@wilf>

No, cheesecake please, no :-)

>To get back on topic, is PM's almost exclusive printing of Barks and Rosa
>stories similar to Gladstone's re-re-...-printing of Barks stories? If
>so, I can understand your frustration. On the other hand, if this is the
>only vehicle for printing these stories (e.g., there is no Barks or Rosa
>in Mickey Parade), and the stories have not been printed in France for
>some time, then this may not necessarily be a bad thing.


The first problem is the re-re-re...

Secondary, there's no place for all AT stories or D stories
which are conceived to be printed with a layout of 4 strips
by page.
The "Journal de Mickey" includes at the most 2 stories and
the others publications are in layout 3.

So i'd like to read sometimes M. Rota for example who is
never published in France actually because most of the
stories he did were in layout 4.
And i think M. Rota is unavoidable.

Thirdly, The C. Barks stories published in PM should be
at least the ones which weren't published 5 years ago.
You know, there's many stories of C. Barks which were
published in France in the 50s which aren't reprinted
since this period.
This doesn't make any difference for the new readers
and would satisfy the older.
But i think it's too much expensive for Hachette :-(
losing time to go to basement to extract the old
printing films... time is money. Loose time, loose
money... no good.
I joke but it's tragic :-|

Oliv






From dghez at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 12 11:14:31 2000
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:14:31 PST
Subject: Io books
Message-ID: <20000112101431.12995.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi,

I was wondering if one of the Italian members of the list would be able to 
provide me with a complete list of the big white hardcover Disney books that 
were published in Italy in the last 20 years (Io Paperone, Io Mickey, ...) 
as I am wondering which one I miss in order to complete the collection.

Thanks in advance.

Didier
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From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Wed Jan 12 11:49:57 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:49:57 +0100
Subject: Io books
Message-ID: <642F8C648D8CD311BEBA0090273F51E22F3A72@gspsvr.elsag.it>

DIDIER:
>> I was wondering if one of the Italian members of the list would be able
to 
> provide me with a complete list of the big white hardcover Disney books
> that 
> were published in Italy in the last 20 years (Io Paperone, Io Mickey, ...)
> 
> as I am wondering which one I miss in order to complete the collection.
> 
What a coincidence... the Italian members of the INDUCKS team are currently
in the process of indexing those books.
I'm sending a list of the titles to Didier, and also to anyone else who
might be interested in it.

BTW, we don't have access to all of the books, so we'd gladly accept any
help from people whose collections are more complete than ours ;-)

Ciao,
Armando



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Wed Jan 12 12:30:24 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:30:24 +0200 (EET)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #49 - 6 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200001121100.MAA11328@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001121319510.3262-100000@dias>

NISSE:

> The Phantom Blot's daughter appears in the MMA #8 issue. It is the
> famous issue with the John Byrne Cover-page - one of the absolute best
> cover pages with Mickey in the last 20 years!! The story itself is also
> among the very best modern Blot-stories IMHO.

Great the cover may be (and the story's not bad, either), but I wonder
if the people who created the Blot's daughter were under the impression
that the Blot is some kind of space alien, instead of a human wearing a
black hood. Why else would she be portrayed as a minature version of the
hooded Blot? I can't imagine a loving father, as the Blot is portrayed
in that story, forcing his child to wear a hood at all times!

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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From dghez at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 12 12:41:15 2000
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:41:15 PST
Subject: PM
Message-ID: <20000112114115.72919.qmail@hotmail.com>

Oliv,

>But i think it's too much expensive for Hachette :-(
>losing time to go to basement to extract the old
>printing films... time is money. Loose time, loosemoney... no good.
>I joke but it's tragic :-|

Pascal usually does not use that kind of logic (others do but believe me NOT 
him. He is much more interested in the number of reasers that PM gets than 
in the profits it generates). I think he is trying to reprint every single 
story that Barks ever created, but he might not do it in the most logical or 
in in fans' favorite order.

Moreover, he is not against publishing some of Rota's stories, although he 
does give preference to Barks and Rosa as an editorial choice.

Didier
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From fluks4 at wxs.nl  Wed Jan 12 17:23:35 2000
From: fluks4 at wxs.nl (Harry Fluks)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:23:35 +-100
Subject: The Tarzan comic adaptation (and some Dutch stuff)
Message-ID: <01BF5D26.BB7DFDC0@gv0363-2.dial.wxs.nl>

USA publisher Dark Horse issued a 2-part adaptation
of the Disney movie Tarzan. This comic version was written
by Greg Ehbar, and drawn by Mario Cortez. This Dark
Horse version was reprinted in Holland in the weekly and
in an album.
Source: Stripschrift 323, December 1999.

I bought this Stripschrift together with some other
magazines at half price in the comic shop "Panda"
in The Hague. This shop exists 30 years this year,
and that was a reason for the owners to stop and
sell everything (or so they say). I was there last
Saturday, the third day that everything went at 1/2
price. The shop was already half empty! Some
interesting things (like the Mickey newspaper
xeroxes by Horst Schroeder, recently discussed
here on DCML) were already gone.
Other things I could still get my hands on.

As a coincidence, I also bought a Stripschrift
magazine of 30 years ago, because it has an
article and a comic of Mickey Mouse in Africa.
In the article. writer Henk Albers says: "making a
list of *all* the Mickey Mouse comic stories in
the world is impossible". Well, we try anyway! 8-)

That same Stripschrift has an advertisement about
"a new comic shop in the Hague" - the very same
that is closing exactly 30 years later!

In another issue of Stripschrift, there's an interview
with one of the *worst* Disney artists from Holland:
Carol Voges. He only mentions his Disney work
*once*, with the words: "I drew Disney comics
for the weekly for decennia. You name it, I drew it,
from Donald Duck to Chip 'n' Dale, and everything
in between. I never objected to doing that, and after
all, I need to earn a living."

Fortunately, Voges is not drawing Disney comics
anymore. Imagine the quality of the work when the
artist "never objected" to doing it...

--Harry.
(Currently recovering from a kidney operation - everything
went extremely well, fortunately)




From starback at ling.uu.se  Thu Jan 13 15:22:30 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 13 Jan 2000 15:22:30 +0100
Subject: Y2K bug in INDUCKS
In-Reply-To: "Nisse Krenchel"'s message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:26:05 +0100"
References: <200001111100.MAA26580@numerus.ling.uu.se> <009001bf5c27$38884d80$759961c3@avenir.dk>
Message-ID: <qzya9uyrtl.fsf@substantiv.ling.uu.se>

"Nisse Krenchel" <nisse.krenchel at get2net.dk> writes:

> The date in the bottom of the INDUCKS homepage looks like this:
> 
> "Last updated January 7, 19100."

How embarrassing.  The person responsible has been taken out and shot.
(I'm still bleeding!)

Speaking of Y2K issues, how are the various story codes using
two-digit years (such as Egmont's) handling this?
-- 
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From wunderwurm at gmx.ch  Thu Jan 13 21:17:15 2000
From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch (wunderwurm@gmx.ch)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:17:15 +0100 (MET)
Subject: More Mickey Dailies Scans
References: <200001131100.MAA10469@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <7610.947794635@www7.gmx.net>

I have enlarged my collection of Mickey Daily strips on the net by adding
"Pluto Catches a Nazi Spy" and the 1930 sequence of Mickey Mouse trying to
commit suicide; here are the URLs:

www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/63 and
www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/03 

respectively. You are invited to consult the homepage also:

www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/index.html

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From halvor.sandven at dnb.no  Fri Jan 14 08:24:54 2000
From: halvor.sandven at dnb.no (Sandven, Halvor)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:24:54 +0100
Subject: The Blot's daughter
Message-ID: <20000114072746Z284694-38742+38@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hello!

I agree that the Phantom Blot story in MMA 8 is a very good story, and that
the Blot obviously loves his daughter. I am also glad that she's his
daughter, and not his niece, this making the story much more powerful.
However, I don't agree with Kriton that the creators look upon the Blot as a
space alien, becuse I think it's quite logical that she dresses like she
does, and I don't think that these 'clothes' are forced upon her. This for a
couple of reasons:

- I think that the Blot is kind of twisted. We have seldom seen him without
his black hood, so for him, this is the normal way to dress. What's normal
for him, he also wants to be normal for his daughter, because he loves her.
I think that neither the Blot nor his daughter regard this as a cruel act.

- The daughter also loves her father, and looks upon him as a hero that she
wants to be like. Then it's only natural that she dresses like him, and also
that all her dolls and stuffed animals are dressed the same way. This is
something she wants herself, and not something that her father forces her to
wear.

The Phantom Blot is not exactly the ideal father and role-model. It's not
very strange that his daughter is a bit different than other kids. I can't
help but feel a bit sorry for her.

--- Halvor.

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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Fri Jan 14 15:35:56 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:35:56 +0100
Subject: Phantom Brat, again
Message-ID: <200001141718.SAA58082@mail.mira.dk>

Thanks for the info about the Brat. MMA 7 and 8 you say?
How old are they and is there a chance I can get hold of 
them in a danish comic-shop or something? I'd really like 
to read the stories, or maybe at least see one panel with 
the charecter. 
Obviously the danish editors of the weekly can't refer to a 
mag that is american. Who would imagine that a person 
would want to read a comic from another country?!! (Me, 
and many of you friends here, I shouldn't wonder:-)
Yours

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com  Fri Jan 14 18:27:16 2000
From: kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com (Joakim Gunnarsson)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:27:16 +0100
Subject: WDC #480
Message-ID: <000c01bf5eb4$9dc634c0$81c2c6c3@default>

Collectors info:

WDC #480 is for sale on ebay.

Since it's just as rare as US #179 and DD #222 it will be *very* interesting to see how many fantasillyions it will cost the lucky bidder that wins the auction...

/Joakim.

P.S. Any Leslie Turner (Captain Easy) fans on this list? 
        Please e-mail me privately. D.S.






From pflip at tiscalinet.it  Sat Jan 15 16:45:06 2000
From: pflip at tiscalinet.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:45:06 +0100
Subject: Phantom Brat
Message-ID: <388094ba38def5bc@twingo.tiscalinet.it> (added by
	    twingo.tiscalinet.it)

Anders

>MMA 7 and 8 you say?
>How old are they and is there a chance I can get hold of 
>them in a danish comic-shop or something?

Well, strange coincidence, I bought those issues, from 1990,
(and a lot others) myself in Copenhagen, at Pharao's Cigarrer,
in 1998.

I know, it's some time ago, and since they were on a shelf
labelled "All at 10 Kr." I guess they went pretty fast, but
maybe it's worth checking, anyway... same goes for Fantask,
they kept a lot of Gladstone stuff, too.

>I'd really like 
>to read the stories, or maybe at least see one panel with 
>the charecter. 

The latter is easily arranged, check

http://members.xoom.it/etabeta/brat1.jpg
http://members.xoom.it/etabeta/brat2.jpg

Also, for those curious about what Mickey Mouse might look like
when drawn by John Byrne (I wouldn't have noticed, if they didn't
tell me :-), here's the cover of MMA #8

http://members.xoom.it/etabeta/mma8.jpg

However, the cover credits for MMA #8 say:

Art by John Byrne (with an assist by Michael Horowitz)

I wonder what that assist might have been... was that a basketball
style assist, like passing an idea and slam-dunk it :-), or...

Perhaps John Byrne didn't draw Mickey, after all... ?


A final note about the Phantom Brat:
The editors asked the readers, in MMA #8, to forward their opinions
about the character, especially as to whether, in their own words,

"Is she a sweet tyke who just happens to have a felon for a father?
Or is she as twisty as her old dad ?"

Will we ever know ? :-)


Cheers

Eta Beta



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan 16 14:36:30 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:36:30 +0100
Subject: Eta Brat;-)
Message-ID: <200001161335.OAA19443@mail.mira.dk>

Eta Beta 

> Well, strange coincidence, I bought those issues, from 1990,
> (and a lot others) myself in Copenhagen, at Pharao's Cigarrer,
> in 1998.
I see. How dum of me that i haven't thought of them I will ask them.
 
Fantask did have a lot of Gladstones yes. when they came out, I don't
know how many back-issues they would have...

> The latter is easily arranged, check
Thanks Eta:-)
> http://members.xoom.it/etabeta/mma8.jpg

> The editors asked the readers, in MMA #8, to forward their opinions
> about the character, especially as to whether, in their own words,
> "Is she a sweet tyke who just happens to have a felon for a father?
> Or is she as twisty as her old dad ?"
> Will we ever know ? :-)
Let us hope we will hear the answer. But... 1990, they never made it to
print the answer then or ??
 




From vsvends at online.no  Tue Jan 18 00:46:20 2000
From: vsvends at online.no (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:46:20 +0100
Subject: Israelian Disney Comics
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000108125818.007c6100@cce.unifi.it>
References: <200001011100.MAA02282@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000118004620.007b61b0@c2i.net>

Marco Barlotti:

>Rats! I've been scooped!
>I was to Israel for New Year's Eve (and a few days after that), and I also
>bought a Disney Comic featuring Donald Duck. 

>Let's hope we have different issues! Mine is dated 2nd january 2000.

Mine is dated 1 Dec. 1999

>And: it's a hard job for the indexers! While reversing the pages (because
>the Israelians, like the arabs, read "backward"...) they ERASE the code! So
>there remains only the tiny rectangular box in the splash-panel, but no
>code in it!!!

Yes! I've found one of the stories in a Norwegian comic.
As to indexing.... one additional problem is that it's got two prices:
9.30 shekels in the Eilat economic zone, and 10.90 shekels in the rest of
Israel.
I guess we'll have to discuss that when I get back to indexing. 
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"There is an art, it says, 
or rather, a knack to flying
The knack lies in learning 
how to throw yourself at the ground
and miss"



From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Sun Jan 16 19:32:06 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:32:06 -0500
Subject: DD big little books
References: <200001151100.MAA22047@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000116.133835.3406.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

A friend of the family gave me a couple Big Little Books today and I want
to know if anyone knows anything about them.  The Disney titles I
recieved are 
MM:  Adventures in OuterSpace
DD:  The Fabulous Diamond Fountain
DD:  Volcano Valley (obviously not by Barks)
DD:  Luck of the Ducks

Particularly I want to know who wrote and drew these.  I know Carl
Fallburg is credited with writing a couple of them, and The Fabulous
Diamond Mountain looks like Jack Manning drew it, but that's all I can
tell.  Any info about these and the Roadrunner, Bugs Bunny, and Woody
Woodpecker books I've found would be appreciated.  Since this is mostly
off topic feel free to e-mail me privatly.


~~~Rodney.

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From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Mon Jan 17 11:22:12 2000
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Dr. Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:22:12 +0200
Subject: Signing off from Greece
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000117102212.00677b10@ac.anatolia.edu.gr>

Fellow Quackeroos:


It's been nearly 5 years since we returned to Greece, after having spent 15
years in the U.S. I decided it's time I go back, at least temporarily. Next
semester I'll be taking a Sabbatical Leave from my present school, and I'll
be spending it as a Visiting Professor of Economics at Binghamton
University--State University of New York, in up-state New York. I plan to
return to Greece in September, 2000, but there's a chance I might stay on
thru the end of 2000.

I'll be going back to a country I consider my "home away from home", and
from where I have mostly pleasant memories and experiences (in addition to
my two boys having being born there, I re-discovered Barks and Disney Comics
thru Gladstone back in 1987!). Now, I'll be going back to a Disney
comics-free U.S., so I'll have to rely heavily on mail service to satisfy my
comics-appetite!

I will be on-line at my current e-mail address thru this Thursday, January
20. I'm set to fly out of Athens on Friday, the 21st. Once I get settled at
my new place next week, I'll sign up to our DCML from my new e-mail account
at my new University, and I'll try to continue being an active participant. 


Cheers,

Archontis





From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Sun Jan 16 23:44:58 2000
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:44:58 +0100
Subject: Olamo shel Disni
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000116234458.007a9a30@popw.c2i.net>

Hi!
As I told you two weeks ago, I bought some Disney comics in Israel in
December.
One is Winnie the Pooh (Poo Hadov, 'Pooh the bear'). This comic has no real
comic stories, only illustrated stories. It's aimed at small children -
most of the stories has vowels.

The other comic is Olamo shel Disni ('Disney's world'). Pages 12-47 are
used for text pages (about animals, sports, witches, monsters), a fact page
about "Ma'adam Mim" and a poster with Donald holding a horseshoe to protect
him from three black cats' bad luck.

In the first story (six pages), 'Donald Dak' asks Gyro to make a (female)
robot to do the house. Everything is ok until Donald presses the wrong
button. The robot gives Donald a *hot* bath and other ill treatment. On the
last page Donald flees Gyro's house after duplicating the robot.

Next is Ziko Haze'ev ('Zeke the Wolf'), two pages. Zeke scares a bear's
cub, and is chased by the cub's mother.

The third story is a 'Madam Mim' story. (D 97609 - 'Magic Mending', two pages)
Mim helps a friend fix things at a museum and accidently fixes the object
on display.

Then there's a Goofy story (seven pages). Goofy walks into a tree and
thinks he is dead. He steal food, and is chased to a hilltop. Mickey
catches him and tells him he's not dead.

The last story is another 'Donald Dak' six pager. Donald can't handle
watching a soccer match. The match is broadcasted everywhere, and Donald
ends up as a nervous wreck.

The total nuber of pages is 64.
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"There is an art, it says, 
or rather, a knack to flying
The knack lies in learning 
how to throw yourself at the ground
and miss"



From asger at duckhunt.de  Mon Jan 17 23:21:17 2000
From: asger at duckhunt.de (Asger Brix Jensen)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:21:17 +0100
Subject: Sv: DCML digest, Vol 1 #54 - 4 msgs
Message-ID: <000601bf6139$2db91e40$875836d4@f8o5m0>

Eta Beta wrote:

>Fantask did have a lot of Gladstones yes. when they came out, I don't
>know how many back-issues they would have...


I have bought many back-issues there (for people arround the world) and if
you want a recently updated inventory list, just go to their homepage:
www.fantask.dk

/Asger





From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Tue Jan 18 09:22:45 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:22:45 +0100
Subject: Vidar: Olamo shel Disni
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76C21@l04.research.kpn.com>

Vidar wrote:

> As I told you two weeks ago, I bought some Disney comics in Israel in
> December.
> One is Winnie the Pooh (Poo Hadov, 'Pooh the bear'). This 
> comic has no real
> comic stories, only illustrated stories. It's aimed at small 
> children - most of the stories has vowels.

Vowels like AEOUI(Y)? Why would the consonants be omitted? How do you form
sensible language with vowels only?
(I've only heard people in Jutland do that...)

> The other comic is Olamo shel Disni ('Disney's world').
> In the first story (six pages), 'Donald Dak' asks Gyro to 
> make a (female) robot to do the house.

This sounds like a Dutch (H-coded) story.

> The last story is another 'Donald Dak' six pager. Donald can't handle
> watching a soccer match. The match is broadcasted everywhere, 
> and Donald ends up as a nervous wreck.

And this also sounds like a Dutch story I know. Donald does not want to see
the match because he wants to keep the fun for later that day (watching the
repeat or a video). So he doesn't want to know the end result.

--Harry.



From andrewpaulharris at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 19 00:27:19 2000
From: andrewpaulharris at hotmail.com (Andrew Harris)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:27:19 NZDT
Subject: Walt Disney Comics - 1990 to 1993
Message-ID: <20000118112719.4250.qmail@hotmail.com>

The Disney Comics I especially collect are the ones that were published 
in-house by the Walt Disney Company from June 1990 to July 1993.  I have 
around ninety of the nearly 250 they published.  I am really interested in 
getting hold of some more, especially the DuckTales, Uncle Scrooge ones, and 
some of the mini-series eg TaleSpin, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast.  
I have a chart showing the ones I have and the ones I want, which I could 
send someone if they think they can help me out.  Or is there somewhere I 
can get back issues from?  Can anyone help?

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From kyrimis at cti.gr  Tue Jan 18 15:45:41 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:45:41 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Vowels
In-Reply-To: <200001181100.MAA21406@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001181624230.15121-100000@dias>

HARRY:

> Vowels like AEOUI(Y)? Why would the consonants be omitted? How do you form
> sensible language with vowels only?

I was under the impression that written Hebrew consists exclusively of
consonants, with readers having to interpolate the vowels themselves.

I believe that this is a general feature of semitic languages. One
of the ancient greeks' major inventions was the idea of using some of
the letters of the alphabet to represent vowels, when they adopted the
phoenician (another semitic language) alphabet.

Thus, I would assume that using vowels in written Hebrew is a later
addition that helps readers recognize new words, and clears any
ambiguities created by the omission of vowels, which is something very
desirable in texts aimed towards younger readers.

Your resident language freak,

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
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 fifteen of them before ascertaining they were non-hostile!"
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From sschridde at gmx.de  Tue Jan 18 18:54:33 2000
From: sschridde at gmx.de (sschridde@gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:54:33 +0100
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #54 - 4 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200001171100.MAA06514@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000118175537Z356369-76880+191@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi Archontis!

just a short note in which I'D like to wish you the very best during 
your time in the states. Maybe I can wish you to meet Don at one of 
the US-comiccons where you'd be one of the handful wise guys who 
would be in the great situation to have the full attention of Don!

Please tell me your new eMail-address so that I can continue to 
provide you with the German ROSA-news.
(Besides: If you're interested in the German MM1/2000 / kalevala 
edition, I bought some issues for trading!).

Your friend

Soeren


> 
> Fellow Quackeroos:
> 
> 
> It's been nearly 5 years since we returned to Greece, after having spent 15
> years in the U.S. I decided it's time I go back, at least temporarily. Next
> semester I'll be taking a Sabbatical Leave from my present school, and I'll
> be spending it as a Visiting Professor of Economics at Binghamton
> University--State University of New York, in up-state New York. I plan to
> return to Greece in September, 2000, but there's a chance I might stay on
> thru the end of 2000.
> 
> I'll be going back to a country I consider my "home away from home", and
> >from where I have mostly pleasant memories and experiences (in addition to
> my two boys having being born there, I re-discovered Barks and Disney Comics
> thru Gladstone back in 1987!). Now, I'll be going back to a Disney
> comics-free U.S., so I'll have to rely heavily on mail service to satisfy my
> comics-appetite!
> 
> I will be on-line at my current e-mail address thru this Thursday, January
> 20. I'm set to fly out of Athens on Friday, the 21st. Once I get settled at
> my new place next week, I'll sign up to our DCML from my new e-mail account
> at my new University, and I'll try to continue being an active participant. 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Archontis
> 
> 
> 
> 

Soeren Schridde

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hinauszublicken, weil der Teller allein ihren Machterhalt
garantiert.                   Rudolf Augstein, 1998  ---

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eMail: sschridde at gmx.de
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Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ (0)541/150764

at my parents':
Luisenweg 33, 38302 Wolfenbuettel, Germany, Earth
Tel.: Acc.Code+ (0)5331/978268



From rfesenmaier at Carlson.com  Tue Jan 18 20:02:29 2000
From: rfesenmaier at Carlson.com (Fesenmaier, Rob)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:02:29 -0600
Subject: Donald Duck as a Pirate
Message-ID: <53EAF4E42144D2119D3A00805F9F22B502BE65DA@otcmsg59.carlson.com>

I have an piece of art that a friend gave me a photo copy of and I'm
wondering if it came from the book "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold".  The art
appears to be Donald in pirate garb on an old sailing ship.  Being new to
the group, I want to make sure I follow protocol.  I have the image in a GIF
format so I'm hoping I can share this with you.  Please let me know if you
can help.


Rob Fesenmaier
Sartell, MN
rfesenmaier at carlson.com <mailto:rfesenmaier at carlson.com> 




From lascif at online.fr  Tue Jan 18 22:50:50 2000
From: lascif at online.fr (oliv)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:50:50 +0100
Subject: misunderstood
Message-ID: <00c201bf61ff$e5eafa80$1d19e4d5@wilf>

OLIV wrote :
>>But i think it's too much expensive for Hachette :-(


DIDIER wrote :
>Pascal usually does not use that kind of logic (others do but believe me NOT 
>him. He is much more interested in the number of reasers that PM gets than 
>in the profits it generates)

OK, but i didn't incriminate Pascal, just Hachette.


> I think he is trying to reprint every single 
>story that Barks ever created, but he might not do it in the most logical or 
>in in fans' favorite order.
Here, let me doubt about that or maybe he can't do
everything he want to do.
e.g. : they begun to print the single page Barks gag
This should have been the beginning of a complete
series and ... it has stopped after 2 or 3 times.
The same for Gander series.
What do you think i can think ;-)



>Moreover, he is not against publishing some of Rota's stories, although he 
>does give preference to Barks and Rosa as an editorial choice.


Yes, he did it about one year ago.

But this is not the matter.
My problem is that they reprint the stories which were
recently reprinted instead of the one which weren't
reprinted since several ten of years.
By this way, the old reader could be satisfied and
the young wouldn't see the difference.
And i'm not talking about the problematical stories
like "Darkest Africa".

Oliv








From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Wed Jan 19 10:13:31 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:13:31 +0100
Subject: His majesty, McDuck
In-Reply-To: <200001181100.MAA21406@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000c01bf625d$74c03f60$24446f0a@UP071615.ral.uef.es>

Could anyone having the original version (in English) of DR's "His majesty,
McDuck" quote for me the the paragraph in which the English chief tells
Cornelius Coot the reasons why the invading army are threatening the hill?

Thanx in advance.

Santiago Garc?a Ba?os




From gpantzer at ny.tds.net  Wed Jan 19 11:36:25 2000
From: gpantzer at ny.tds.net (Gary Pantzer)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:36:25 -0500
Subject: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" : Signing off from Greece
Message-ID: <000d01bf6269$6ed05b60$9a1b01cf@gpantzer>

The good Dr writes in #54 DCML that he will be in Binghamton for
a period of time this year. I invite him to contact me after he has
settled in. I lived in that part of the state for some years and still
get there on rare occasions. I now live about 2 hours away, but
it would be worth a trip one day to meet another duck fan. Maybe
we could swap some issues (as well as opinions).
Gary Pantzer
Oneida, NY
(where we are freezing our pin-feathers off right now)





From pflip at tiscalinet.it  Wed Jan 19 12:47:03 2000
From: pflip at tiscalinet.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:47:03 +0100
Subject: Santiago : The Spainyerds
Message-ID: <3885a3323885cb19@laguna.tiscalinet.it> (added by
	    laguna.tiscalinet.it)

Hi, Santiago

>Could anyone having the original version (in English) of DR's "His majesty,
>McDuck" quote for me the the paragraph in which the English chief tells
>Cornelius Coot the reasons why the invading army are threatening the hill?

Caption:
"I askt the British commander whut got them Spainyerds s'all-fired riled 
up!"

Commander:
"This tiny hill is the only bit of land west of the Louisiana purchase
that Spain doesn't own! King Ferdinand has vowed to take it!"

Now, what does the Spanish version say ? :-)


Cheers

Eta Beta
(yet another language freak, but limited to modern western languages :-)



From sschridde at gmx.de  Wed Jan 19 14:28:07 2000
From: sschridde at gmx.de (sschridde@gmx.de)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:28:07 +0100
Subject: Mail to Archontis
In-Reply-To: <200001191100.MAA00717@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000119132905Z143384-50594+229@merganser.its.uu.se>

just a short sorry for bothering all of you with my private mail... 
i wanted to refer to his posting and forgot to change the address-
field after starting the reply.
SORRY
Soeren





From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan 19 19:23:15 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:23:15 +0100
Subject: Donald as Pirate
Message-ID: <200001191818.TAA62127@mail.mira.dk>

Listmember Rob asks us if wee can identify a drawing of Donald as a
pirate, and he send the drawing to me in private - after some trouble
with my geocities page i have now uploaded it here:

http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/Donald1.gif

So, what is it? 


A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From ridout5 at erols.com  Wed Jan 19 19:53:16 2000
From: ridout5 at erols.com (Ridout)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:53:16 -0500
Subject: His Majesty McDuck
References: <200001191100.MAA00719@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001801bf62ae$72588a60$d77dfea9@ridout5>

Santiago:
 In the first panel where Cornelius Coot asks the British commander why the
armies where attacking, The commander replies:

       "This tiny hill is the ONLY bit of land west of the Louisiana
Purchase that spain doesn't own! King Ferdinand had VOWED to take it!"

If you needed more than that translated, I can look it up for you.
Hope that helped.

rebecca




From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Thu Jan 20 13:34:28 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Santiago_Garc=EDa_Ba=F1os?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:34:28 +0100
Subject: His Majesty McDuck
In-Reply-To: <200001201100.MAA19111@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000301bf6342$b1521080$24446f0a@UP071615.ral.uef.es>

Thanks a lot Rebecca & Eta Beta for replying my request.

>Now, what does the Spanish version say ? :-)
It's ok: the version I read says exacly that. My evil suspicions were wrong!
:-)

Santiago.





From donrosa at iglou.com  Thu Jan 20 13:41:55 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:41:55 -0500
Subject: digest #57 
References: <200001201100.MAA19111@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <005101bf6343$de590d80$dbeeffcc@default>

> From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek"
> Listmember Rob asks us if wee can identify a drawing of Donald as a
> pirate, and he send the drawing to me in private - after some trouble
> with my geocities page i have now uploaded it here:
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/Donald1.gif
> So, what is it?

That's a WWII Disney Studio insignia for a some battleship or PT boat unit
or somesuch.





From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 21 15:20:46 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:20:46 CET
Subject: comics.
Message-ID: <20000121142046.61111.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Paul Lindstrom" <Paull at sprint.ca>
>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:49:36 -0800

>I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to get my hands on some new 
>issues of disney comics (donald duck, mickey mouse, uncle scrooge, goofy 
>and so on)? I can't seem to find them anywhere in the U.S or Canada. I am 
>from Ontario, Canada. Is there a way to get a subscription or anything?

There aren't any Disney comics published in the U.S.!
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From nils at math.uio.no  Fri Jan 21 20:52:12 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:52:12 +0100
Subject: early Norwegian DD comics for sale 
Message-ID: <200001211952.UAA11950@dioscuri.uio.no>

For Norwegians: 
I passed by the shop "Comix" the other day, at St. Hanshaugen
in Oslo. I thought I'd mention here that they have a reasonable
selection of Donald Duck & Co 1949-1954 for sale, in agreeable
conditions. Time to complete your collections. 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From nils at math.uio.no  Fri Jan 21 20:48:51 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:48:51 +0100
Subject: Marc Davis (1913-2000) 
Message-ID: <200001211948.UAA11926@dioscuri.uio.no>

Marc Davis, one of "the nine grand men (at Disney)", died this week,
at the age of 86. There's a short obituary in the January 24 (!) 
issue of TIME. He helped create Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, 
Tinker Bell, and Cruella de Vil. I understand his contributions are 
also evident in several classic Disney films, such as Bambi and 
Alice in Wonderland. 

As many of us know, Carl Barks was for several years associated
with Kathy Morby and Bill Grandey, business associates who formed 
the "Carl Barks Studio", and who fondly or not so fondly also
were referred to as Carl's bodyguards. After a clarifying fall-out
in and out of court, suitably dealt with on this list a couple of 
years ago, Morby and Grandy left, and went on to establish a very 
similar "Marc Davis Studio". I don't know how successful this was,
or for how long it lasted. 

Davis' primary medium was the "Disney films". But I offer as
a speculative remark that without the work carried out by Marc Davis 
and his most gifted associates, we would perhaps not have, or indeed 
have had, Disney comics. 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From nils at math.uio.no  Fri Jan 21 21:59:59 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:59:59 +0100
Subject: footnotology of footnotology 
Message-ID: <200001212059.VAA13602@dioscuri.uio.no>

I've been quickly browsing through maillist digests from the 
last couple of weeks, and I'd like to provide some footnotes 
to the topic of _footnotes_, which were used (sparingly) in the 
Norwegian and Danish editions #48-#50 of Don Rosa's Kalevala story. 

Why footnotes, in the first place? The Kalevala story is 
interesting and unusual on several accounts, not only since 
it is a long 33 page story by a gifted storyteller and artist. 
It is rather more complicated than most Disney stories, and 
involves a peculiar and for most people unknown literary epic 
universe, that of the Finnish-Karelian Kalevala. Thus the 
Egmont publishers felt the need to (or rather were prodded, 
by me, into feeling the need to) help their readers a little bit, 
with an introduction page and a summary "Who's who and what 
in Kalevala" page.  

I helped construct these pages, in cooperation with the Norwegian 
editors; the same pages appear also in the Danish and Swedish 
parallel editions. (I was also the "main translator" handling 
the translations of Rosa's runo rhythms into proper Kalevala-meter 
and so on, but that's a footnote, in this connection.) And I 
managed to get hold of a kind colleague's copy of "Hiawatha", 
Classics Illustrated 1949, the cover of which, to Hiawatha's and 
Longfellow's surpise, has been photocopied in something 
like 180.000 + 190.000 + 210.000 copies all over Scandinavia... 

Well then: *in addition* to these hopefully informative and helpful 
pages, we felt that some inobtrusively placed *footnotes*, at strategic 
points, could further help the reader on his/her way towards 
enlightenment. The Swedish translator (and honoured list member) 
Stefan Di{\"o}s disagrees, and avoided them (which is fine with me, 
of course!). But in the Norwegian and by parallelism also the Danish 
editions one finds
	"Mustasaari means `Black Island'" ,
	"The music Vainamoinen plays here is from `Finlandia'
	by Sibelius, a work first performed exactly 100 years ago" , 
and so on. This is perhaps the only Disney story where such 
footnotes have been actively used by the publisher. -- It would
have been better, imVho, if these bits of information could have
been squeezed into a single introduction section (one or two pages),
but here space was constrained, and I (with politely nodding editors)
was brimming with extra information I excitedly wished to stuff
down the readers' throats. So there. 

A footnote on the page 50/#49 footnote, which was misinterpreted
by someone here: I wrote something like 
	"The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
	Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
	used this music example on an earlier occasion in a 
	Duck story ..." 
A list reader or two thought this reflected sloppy work on part of 
the editors, in that this earlier Rosa-Wagner occasion was not directly 
referred to. On my/our part it was intended differently! The 
three suggestive dot dot dot were meant as a pedagogical incentive to 
Go Forth!, find out where this could possibly be, in your 
own Donald Duck/Anders And/Kalle Anka collection! 

My (only) measurable reward for my several hours of professorial
middle-of-the-night assistance for Egmont is the opportunity
provided me for being listed under "K" in the yellow pages, since 
I'm referred to (in small print) as 
	Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort 
in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues. 



From DGE at ECN.egmont.com  Sat Jan 22 03:33:48 2000
From: DGE at ECN.egmont.com (Gerstein, David DK - ECN)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:33:48 +0100
Subject: Olamo shel Disni
Message-ID: <716EC96EB1D2D011BE3200805FC1974381D7B8@CPHEGTD1-XCH02>

	Hey Vidar!

>In the first story (six pages), 'Donald Dak' asks Gyro to make a (female)
>robot to do the house. Everything is ok until Donald presses the wrong
>button. The robot gives Donald a *hot* bath and other ill treatment. On the
>last page Donald flees Gyro's house after duplicating the robot.

Harry thought this to be a Dutch story, but I believe it to be one of
Egmont's: D 97228 "Serves You Right," written by Pat and Shelly Block and
drawn by Torres. Actually, the robot is supposed to be a substitute
*girlfriend* for Donald!

>Then there's a Goofy story (seven pages). Goofy walks into a tree and
>thinks he is dead. He steal food, and is chased to a hilltop. Mickey
>catches him and tells him he's not dead.

This is D 98415 "Afterlife Of The Party," written by Stefan Petrucha and
drawn by Jorge David. 'Ghost' Goofy morosely decides it must be his duty to
haunt the city by doing "the most villainous thing" he could ever think of
doing. That translates into... well, stealing food from a roadside kiosk...
	"Hey! You gonna pay for all that?"
	"Nope! >Yum!< An' that's 'cause I'm wreakin' muh eternal vengeance
on yuh from beyond thuh grave!"

>The last story is another 'Donald Dak' six pager. Donald can't handle
>watching a soccer match. The match is broadcasted everywhere, and Donald
>ends up as a nervous wreck.

This is D 98179 "Ninety Minutes," story by Paul Halas (plot) and Jack Sutter
(script) with art by Anibal Uzal.

	David Gerstein
	<dge at ecn.egmont.com>



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sat Jan 22 13:24:42 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:24:42 +0100
Subject: Footnotes
Message-ID: <200001221230.NAA53529@mail.mira.dk>

Nils Lid Hjort 
Thanks for explaining reasons for the editorial pages and 
footnotes of the Kalevala. I read the first editorial page first 
and noted all the nice advices as to how one should read the 
story having all 3 parts, reading the notes and so on. It also
said that Don used the special meter/rhytm. I noted later, 
thanks to you, that the norwegian text about the meter says: 
the norwegian translator used the rhytm too! 
I later learned that the actual only mistake in the danish version 
would be that the person-who-puts-texts-in-the-bubbles didn't use 
the special font. 
Back to footnotes: 

I'm glad that so much extra info was brought to us, but still some of
it 
seemed to me to be foolishness from the dansih side. But I of course 
can't know the origin of this: Can you find Don's signature in the
first panel?
Nope! i can find no signature, it doesn't say Don Rosa upthere (It 
says at the bottom of the next page, with the usual font:-) 
What I can find is what I have learned to call a dedication... A
dedication 
to a master. It is not a signature that Don puts in his stories to tell
us it 
is his, we don't need to find a such to know that it is his story, we
can 
even sometimes see it in the credits (1991 and 1999-?). D.U.C.K.
doesn't 
mean: Don, then undefeated Comic King or something like that, it is a 
dedication not a signature. Done

The "someone here" was me:-)
> 	"The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
> 	Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
> 	used this music example on an earlier occasion in a 
> 	Duck story ..." 
First: *it is* very, should we say beautiful, that the readers get to
know that, 
They will have learned also that from the weekly. 
secondly:  Okay, the editors weren't sloopy here then, but to me it
just seemed so, as it didn't say: go find it.

> 	Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort 
> in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues. 
I'm sorry to say, even if you do highly deserve it, you don't seem to
be mentioned in the danish weekly in the colofon or what's it called.
The danish translator and the editors and editor-in-chief of the mag is
mentioned... 

This happened also to Translators Rindom and Daa (also know as
JW-generals:-) in all the issues they translated, they were never
credited in the magazine. 

Let me say: 1999 was a good year in terms of stories in the weekly, and
covers, which is off course the most important. But there has been some
little mistakes in terms of fact-pages. I hope 2000 will be better on
all areas, but already in issue 3 I see the first Duckburg Times with
references to the Vacuum-story and Lost in the South Seas, but I just
know those references, it doesn't say anywhere... 

AC





From mnaiman1 at home.com  Sun Jan 23 04:22:46 2000
From: mnaiman1 at home.com (Michael Naiman)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:22:46 -0800
Subject: contact
Message-ID: <388A7406.F1017C5B@home.com>

sorry for the "missing persons alert", but I lost all email
addresses.....
Arie in Indonesia..please contact me at my new email address

Michael





From Vlbmom at aol.com  Sun Jan 23 14:26:10 2000
From: Vlbmom at aol.com (Vlbmom@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:26:10 EST
Subject: Unsubcribe Please 
Message-ID: <be.b3b50c.25bc5b72@aol.com>

Please take me off your mailing list.



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan 23 16:54:32 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Message-ID: <200001231549.QAA53447@mail.mira.dk>

Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart. 
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan 23 16:54:32 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Message-ID: <200001231549.QAA53451@mail.mira.dk>

Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart. 
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From sko at acoustics.dk  Sun Jan 23 17:41:25 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:25 +0100
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
References: <200001231549.QAA53451@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <388B2F35.E9F251AF@acoustics.dk>

AC:

> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]

I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.

S?ren



From Userpro at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 01:04:47 2000
From: Userpro at aol.com (Userpro@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:04:47 EST
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #59 - 5 msgs
Message-ID: <72.11648ec.25bcf11f@aol.com>

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From fstajano at uk.research.att.com  Mon Jan 24 00:43:51 2000
From: fstajano at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:43:51 +0000
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
In-Reply-To: <388B2F35.E9F251AF@acoustics.dk>
References: <200001231549.QAA53451@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000123234326.00b737f0@localhost>

At 2000-01-23 17:41 +0100, S?ren Krarup Olesen wrote:
>AC:
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>
>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.

My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.

  Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




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From: marilynmanson81 at hotmail.com (Anni =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E4m=F6 ?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:53:05 EET
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
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From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
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Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date:   Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100

Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk


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Message: 3
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
To: <dcml at numerus.LING.UU.SE>
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date:   Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100

Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk


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Message: 4
Date:   Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:25 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen <sko at acoustics.dk>
Organization: Acoustics Laboratory, Aalborg University
To: Disney Comics Mailing List <dcml at numerus.ling.uu.se>
Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck

AC:

 > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
 > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]

I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.

Søren

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From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck

At 2000-01-23 17:41 +0100, Søren Krarup Olesen wrote:
 >AC:
 >
 > > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
 > > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
 >
 >I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.

My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.

   Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/)  
http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Mon Jan 24 12:13:58 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:13:58 +0100
Subject: Sv: DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
Message-ID: <200001241306.OAA52172@mail.mira.dk>

Hi
First: Sorry that i send thatlast mail to times... it sometimes
happens...

BTW What a long list... but it was: to non-scriptions mails send to the
wrong adress. 
two mails from me, which were exactly the same, and then, most
important two answers. 

> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]

S?REN 
> I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)

 S?ren
 
FRANK
> My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
so we have two good possiblities. Is it possible that one could find
the story searching for revolutione de ...?

AC



From sko at acoustics.dk  Mon Jan 24 14:44:10 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:10 +0100
Subject: Sv: DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
References: <200001241306.OAA52172@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <388C5729.9CB45C8F@acoustics.dk>

AC:

Anders Christian Sivebaek wrote:
> S?REN
> > I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
> I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
> pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)

Perhaps :-). I BTW "withdraw my redraw theory". The reason for it
looking so irregular is probably due to your B/W scan. Can you please
make a few (many) more scans and in colour? Please also tell more about
no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it takes.

S?ren



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From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:17:17 CET
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
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From fluks4 at wxs.nl  Mon Jan 24 18:58:37 2000
From: fluks4 at wxs.nl (Harry Fluks)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:58:37 +-100
Subject: Dutch news
Message-ID: <01BF669D.5A90C940@gv0567-2.dial.wxs.nl>

Today I spent a full day at the Dutch Disney editors (VNU). Mainly to
tie some loose ends in our Inducks database. We reached a milestone
today: the index for the Dutch Donald Duck weekly is *complete*
(1952-2000)!!
Also, the cover information for *all* covers from 1987 to 1999 was
checked by editor Frans Hasselaar and artist Michel Nadorp!

Some other (interesting and less interesting) news:

The story code of the first H-story this year is "H 2001". I forgot to
ask Thom Roep about his plans for codes this year (and the following
years)...

Don Rosa's story about the Lost Dutchman's mine will be published
in DD Extra #3 (March), 2000.

Wilma van den Bosch will continue her (non-Disney) Aster stories,
to be published in DD weekly. Very good stuff (IMO)!

The VNU people use our Inducks index every day. I showed them
some more ways to use it (they only used Per's "search facility" so far).
Unfortunately, the editors (almost) all use a Mac, so I had some
problems using the indexes I brought with me on floppy disc.
There's still some standardisation to be done in the software
business...

--Harry.
I.N.D.U.C.K.S. database: http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast




From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 24 21:14:28 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:14:28 CET
Subject: Dutch news
Message-ID: <20000124201428.90678.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: Harry Fluks <fluks4 at wxs.nl>
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:58:37 +-100

>Some other (interesting and less interesting) news:
>
>The story code of the first H-story this year is "H 2001". I forgot to ask 
>Thom Roep about his plans for codes this year (and the following years)...

Strange coding system... I understand why you wonder about the format of it. 
It looks more like that it was made in 1920.

>Don Rosa's story about the Lost Dutchman's mine will be published in DD 
>Extra #3 (March), 2000.

Hasn't it been published earlier in the Netherlands? Here in Sweden it was 
published a year ago! I know that the D stories are published later in 
Holland than in Sweden, but I didn't know that it was this late!
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From bolcano at tin.it  Mon Jan 24 21:02:31 2000
From: bolcano at tin.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:02:31 +0100
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Message-ID: <002301bf66b7$2cf27a00$7369d8d4@ccse0315>

AC, Soren, Frank:
>>> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
>>> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
>My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.

I've had a look at my copy of "How to read Donald Duck", so I could see the
third panel as well ;-)
And I fully agree with Soren: G.B. Carpi, probably traced-off. The problem
is: which story ?
The style is that of the late 60es, I'd say (which fits in well with the
Chilean book's publishing date, 1971).
The only candidate I found in the FSB is
I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
/Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone, QQQ,
Cuordipietra Famedoro
"Adventure in South America"... I cannot check, as I have only the first
part of that story (reprinted in CWD 42, GCD 91). I'm not so convinced
myself, though ;-)

Ciao,
Armando




From trygve at tc.umn.edu  Tue Jan 25 03:59:07 2000
From: trygve at tc.umn.edu (Tryg Helseth)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:59:07 -0600
Subject: Gyro appears in F&SF
In-Reply-To: <200001241100.MAA31284@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000124204111.00ad7ef0@trygve.email.umn.edu>

In the February 2000 issue of Fantasy and Science Fiction magazine appears a short story Paul Di Filippo titled, "Stink Lines."  

The story starts in 2001 when, in honor of Carl Barks 100th birthday, Disney Corporation buys up the town of Los Gatos California and renames it "Duckburg."  The town is remodeled to resemble Barks Duckburg complete with walk-around role-playing characters.

The hero of the story is a young resident of the new Duckburg named Gary Greer-Lish.  His school mates waste no time in christening him as Gyro Gearloose.  He decides to adopt the name when Ginger Barks (a distant relative of Carl) tells him the name is "cool." 

Through the years Gary takes on more the personality of Gyro and becomes an eccentric inventor.  In the hopes of impressing his secret love, Ginger, he invents a "utility fog" consisting of nano-machines that can simulate dialog balloons and visual devices depicting emotions, odors, etc.

I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro Gearloose.  I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro.  Maybe more than we think?

Tryg 




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Tue Jan 25 12:56:09 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:56:09 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Gyro appears in F&SF
In-Reply-To: <200001251100.MAA15195@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001251336220.7694-100000@dias>

TRYG:

> I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar
> with Barks, and much less Gyro.  Maybe more than we think?

Being in an acerbic mood, I'l comment that being, by its nature, addressed
to the small minority of people that can read, the story is addressed to
the same kind of audience as that of Barks' stories. Thus, the probability
of a high overlap between the two audiences is significant.

Speaking of overlap between Disney comics and SF audiences, I wonder if
there is actually any truth in the above statement. I know I enjoy both,
but a sample of one does not permit one to derive any conclusions. However,
as both kinds of fiction could be described as fantasy, expanding from
talking ducks to starships as one grows up makes some sort of sense.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"...to seek new life, to explore strange new worlds, to boldly go where no
 particulate entity with any sentient characteristics whatsoever has gone
 before."
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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Tue Jan 25 17:30:24 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:30:24 +0100
Subject: 62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
Message-ID: <200001251630.RAA81407@mail.mira.dk>

Anni
> Please take out of this list...!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder how she got on it... it seems she can't even read. 
unsubscriptions shoudl be send to another adress!


S?REN
> Can you please
> make a few (many) more scans and in colour? 
Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
:-) LOL!

> Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
takes.
Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
... book. 
The book is very strange as to references. they do tell where some of
their Barks-panles come from but they write CS in stead of WDC and they
write issue number of a year... and I don't know how to find such
things... This revolution-story 
is not refererred (?) at all...

Armando Botto
Your suggestions sounds correct to me... on the other hand how should I
know.
But the word candidati rings some bell. does it mean something about
king in italian?

> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro

> "Adventure in South America"... 
definiterly sounds like it! 

I hope you find the second part if you want to. I hate it when i can't
read all parts.

Tryg:
> I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to
read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story
based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro
Gearloose.  I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at
all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro.  >Maybe more than we
think?
This sounds very interesting. Do you have the magazine yourself, or did
you see it somewhere on the net?
I don't think I speak only for myself when saying, that I would like to
see the whole
short story:-)





From sko at acoustics.dk  Tue Jan 25 18:09:03 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:09:03 +0100
Subject: 62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
References: <200001251630.RAA81407@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <388DD8AF.55768C57@acoustics.dk>

AC:

> > Can you please
> > make a few (many) more scans and in colour?
> Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
> :-) LOL!

Hm, well, I still claim to be seeing "in colour" even if I'm watching an
old B/W movie. In other words, if you scan the B/W panels in RGB-mode
then the transitions between what's white and what's black will be
softened. That would help to tell if was redrawn.

> > Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
> takes.
> Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
> ... book.

So where's the third one then? ;-)

S?ren



From hans.kiesl at sowi.uni-bamberg.de  Tue Jan 25 18:42:13 2000
From: hans.kiesl at sowi.uni-bamberg.de (Hans Kiesl)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:42:13 GMT+0100
Subject: Gladstone version of Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon"
Message-ID: <BCCBC54C1@urz01.urz.uni-bamberg.de>

By chance, I discovered the following minor art changes in the 
Gladstone publication of Romano Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon". I 
hope this has not already been discussed before.

Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded 
as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be 
published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made 
(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?). 

Have a look at the scans: 
http://members.xoom.com/1729/scarpa/lentils.htm

-Hans-



From apantsi at binghamton.edu  Tue Jan 25 20:32:03 2000
From: apantsi at binghamton.edu (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:32:03 -0500
Subject: Greetings from Binghamton, NY!!!
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000125143203.00795190@mail.binghamton.edu>

Fellow Quackeroos!

Well, it didn't take me much to get back on the (list)wagon, did it?! :-)

I'm writing from a freezing up-state NY. When I arrived in NYC last Friday,
it was -30 F with the wind chill factor! Now, it's all the way up to 15F
with a snow storm out my office window...

Let me take this opportunity to say "hi" to all my dcml friends out there
and let them know of my present whereabouts. My new e-mail address is:

apantsi at binghamton.edu

Nice to be "back"...

Cheers,

Archontis

Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York
USA



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Tue Jan 25 19:17:54 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:17:54 +0100
Subject: How to read Donald,
Message-ID: <200001251812.TAA90017@mail.mira.dk>

I understand now what you want, and that you wonder where the third
panel is..

I'm going to upload some things tonight so I'll upload the 3 panels
in "color" :-)

AC



From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Tue Jan 25 20:01:00 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Santiago_Garc=EDa_Ba=F1os?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:01:00 +0100
Subject: TOPOLINO AT LAST!
In-Reply-To: <200001251100.MAA15194@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000701bf6766$84df1200$24446f0a@UP071615.ral.uef.es>

To anyone interested in Italian subscriptions:

Some time ago I commented on this list I had troubles requesting info 
about subscriptions to Italian editors. Yesterday, at last, I recieved 
a posting from "The Walt Disney Company Italia" reporting me the 
editions actually available & payment ways accepted, which I quote 
here for anyone interested:

----------------------------------------------------------------
List of prices for a one-year subscription:

Title 		isues/year	Ordinary mail	Air mail
================================================================
I GRANDE CLASSICI	12		75100			84100
I CALSSICI		12		62100			69300
ZIO PAPERONE	12		74200			81400
I MAESTRI DISNEY	No subscriptions admitted
			(we already know the reasons why :-( )
TOPOPLINO 		52		208200		239400
(all prices in Italian Lire)

Way of payment for foreign countries:
-International check to:
	THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY ITALIA
	Via Sandro Sandri, 1
	20121 Milano
-Visa credit card (send 16 digits + date of outdate)

Other data of interest:
Tel. Subscription Office: (039) 2020350 (Beware: as someone remarked, 
they maybe speak only Italian!)
Fax: (02) 29085190
----------------------------------------------------------------


So, after some time insisting, they at last answered me. Maybe there 
is any member from the Italian WD Company staff on this list? If it 
was so, I want to thank them for his kindness (I had almost lost my 
hopes after Marco suggested they didn't accept foreign subscriptions 
no more; I'm glad they changed their mind).

Thanks Archontis, Marco, and others who helped me!

Greetings,

Santiago.




From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Tue Jan 25 20:18:13 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:18:13 +0100
Subject: TOPOPLINO AT LAST! (2)
In-Reply-To: <200001251100.MAA15194@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000001bf6768$ece73ba0$24446f0a@UP071615.ral.uef.es>

Oops! Sorry for the rubish in my name on my previous message. But at least I
didn't quote the whole digest! :-)

Santiago.




From frspreaf at tin.it  Tue Jan 25 22:44:09 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:44:09 +0100
Subject: 62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
References: <200001251630.RAA81407@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <000901bf677e$cf1eb6a0$3753d8d4@darthmaul>

From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>

> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro
> "Adventure in South America"... 
definiterly sounds like it! 

It's not this, I just checked :-(

Sprea





From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan 26 00:15:35 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:15:35 +0100
Subject: How to read
Message-ID: <200001252310.AAA12595@mail.mira.dk>

S?ren, others
here I have uploaded the colour scans from the How to read DD-book
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto2.jpg

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From DGE at ECN.egmont.com  Wed Jan 26 13:46:06 2000
From: DGE at ECN.egmont.com (Gerstein, David DK - ECN)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:46:06 +0100
Subject: Gladstone version of Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon"
Message-ID: <716EC96EB1D2D011BE3200805FC1974381D7C5@CPHEGTD1-XCH02>

	Hey Hans!

>Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
>country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded 
>as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be 
>published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made 
>(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?). 

	By Gladstone's art department.
	As the story's American dialogue writer, I can confirm that the
change was done to make the story acceptable to Disney-Burbank. The same
goes for the African "Gold Coast" of the original story (it was not allowed
to be an African country at all, but we *could* get away with making it an
imaginary Asian country).
	We weren't allowed to let the natives sound ignorant by letting them
speak (Scarpa's original) crude, pidgin English, but we *were* allowed to
create the effect of ignorance by giving them very elaborate *old-fashioned*
English - as if they'd learned the language by reading a book. So I hope to
have preserved the original intent.

	David Gerstein
	<dge at ecn.egmont.com>



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan 26 14:59:30 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:59:30 +0100
Subject: weeklies 2000
Message-ID: <200001261355.OAA80026@mail.mira.dk>

My complaints about the weeklies lasty year may have become a little
annoying. So I wont complain this time, just praise!
3 of the covers till now have been dutch, and I especially like the
one, which will be in stores tomorrow. Of the 5 weeklies that i know
the contents out till now, two have contains barks stories. the first
one hasn't been published since the Goldbook nr. 7 and the one which
comes next week is in some 1970'es issues that I had great trouble
finding (But I did). So these first two stories are a great choice. 
And now for something completely different.
Horace Horsecollar made a comeback in the new weekly, and it seems the
continued story in the new issue will not be the only one we see with
him. 

Last: I know that many kids might buy the weekly only because of the
extras, but as a grown-up-reader I don't really care of this weeks
horror-nails! So i wish I could get a "non-extra-subscription"... But
as long as that isn't possible, I have two nice boxes where I put the
extras... and I take the card out, and save it while I might put the
socalled nails in a plastic bag with all the other extra junk!
Issue 5 seems to be very funny too, with Donald and some
computer-animals and Daisy as a beequeen!

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Wed Jan 26 14:52:02 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:52:02 +0100
Subject: #63 
Message-ID: <200001261355.OAA80017@mail.mira.dk>

I have done what S?ren asked for, also that 3rd panel , which is placed
as the first panel. But I don't really get the xpression to see a b/W
movie in color? Do you mean that the world around the TV/Cinema doesn't
turn b/w because you watch that movie? That would be true. 
Speaking of B/W movies, I guess some people think they're boring,
because we usually see in color... but many of the best and funnies
movies seem to be b/w.

HANS
If Gladstone changed the Lentils of Babylon in their publication, I
wonder what version Komix used? I have the Komix-publication of the
story (which I can't read), but it looks very nice. 

I'm happy to see that Archontis joined us from his new place in NY,
welcome back:-)

Sprea
It did sounds close... but what do we do then?`Do we have any members
from South America  who could take a look at these:

> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto1.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto2.jpg

AC




From donrosa at iglou.com  Wed Jan 26 15:02:35 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:02:35 -0500
Subject: Kalevala, again!
References: <200001261100.MAA07390@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001901bf6806$01b9a7a0$17efffcc@default>

I hope we can return to an old issue for a moment?
I just received a copy of the German version of my Kalevala story. They
colored the special "interior cover" that I did for them *splendidly*!
Beautiful computer-color effects! And they have a spectacular background
display of red sky and yellow lightning on each page of the story, with my
comic panels "hovering" over the surface and casting shadows back onto it.
It really looks great.
The special font for the Kalevalian dialogue is also quite nice. But as a
German reader pointed out to me, the German translator misinterpreted a key
moment of my dialogue... it was the most important dialogue in the story to
*me*, though I suppose it was not really so important to the Kalevala-quest
plot. Let me describe it briefly...
In my original dialogue, Vainemoinen tells $crooge that he knows $crooge
has a love of a land of ice and snow and grandeur, and $crooge correctly
realizes he means the Yukon of his youth. Then comes the key moment --
Vainy, seeking to make $crooge realize what's important in life, makes
$crooge the offer: "Then COME WITH ME to where I go! Have prosperity
eternal! FORSAKE your OWN Kalevala where a lost love still awaits you!"
(that being Goldie.) This $crooge realizes is not worth eternal wealth, and
he says "no", to which Vainy says "RIGHT CHOICE!"
Now, the German version seems to say something like "Come with me and I'll
take you back to the Yukon where your true love awaits you"... to which
$crooge says "no". Which is absolutely the total opposite of what I wanted,
and seems to make little sense. It was a tiny slip, perhaps the translator
did not understand the English word "forsake" which is an old-fashioned,
seldom-used word. And the Kalevalian phrasing is surely also confusing. But
now I need to ask you folks in Finland and Norway and Sweden and Denmark
and Iceland -- did your version of my dialogue have this same
misinterpretation of my key instant in the story? Or is it okay? (I'm
probably just going to make myself miserable. Ignorance is bliss. But I
really need to know.)
Thanks...




From mortenjo at ifi.uio.no  Wed Jan 26 15:46:49 2000
From: mortenjo at ifi.uio.no (Morten Lied Johansen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:46:49 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Kalevala, again!
In-Reply-To: <001901bf6806$01b9a7a0$17efffcc@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0001261534260.3961-100000@grotte.ifi.uio.no>

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Don Rosa wrote:

> And the Kalevalian phrasing is surely also confusing. But
> now I need to ask you folks in Finland and Norway and Sweden and Denmark
> and Iceland -- did your version of my dialogue have this same
> misinterpretation of my key instant in the story? Or is it okay?

In the norwegian version it goes like this: (Rough translation)

Vainy: We are one - that I can feel! - You love the snow and cold, -
love the lands up there, - and maybe something more...
$crooge: Yu... Yukon?
Vainy: Are you ready to leave - and be given eternal wealth, - say
goodbye to this world - and the love you need?
$crooge: NOOO!
Vainy: Right choice! My congratulations! - So fare well, Sampo-saviour!

Not exactly the way you intended, but it works...

-- 
Regards
  Morten Lied Johansen - First-time poster :)
  Who would like this opportunity to thank everyone on this list for
  shareing your knowledge and knowhow with the rest of us.
 




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Wed Jan 26 19:01:56 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (fernandopventura@uol.com.br)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:01:56 -0200
Subject: Where i can found Joe Carioca?
Message-ID: <FOYFF8$IhKdIt_0nGWTdJh3a_D127ZtjOanqGNP8K9hGeVXkK9@uol.com.br>

Someone know something about Disney's brazilians Carioca histories 
published in others countries?I now that a few(or no?)off them is found 
in italian comics,but there are something in others countries?Speaking 
on it,the information in Renato Canini in the creator section is 
wrong!He didn't work in plots coming from the Disney Studios, but he 
maked his ow comics, writting, drawing and inking them.How i can put a 
scan on the net?I have some information in the brazilian production and 
i like to speak more about it!Thanks and i'm sorry for my bad 
english!               





From ole.roc at get2net.dk  Wed Jan 26 18:33:26 2000
From: ole.roc at get2net.dk (Ole Reichstein Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:33:26 +0100
Subject: Southern adventures
References: <200001261100.MAA07368@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <005001bf683f$af93f180$a7822fc3@roc>

AC:

> > I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> > Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
> QQQ, Cuordipietra Famedoro

Sprea> It's not this, I just checked :-(

I took a look at a couple of other of Carpi's South American
Adventures, and neither fit. Looking at the few panels we
know from the story, I'm getting more and more convinced
that the art has not only been traced (redrawn) but most
likely the whole story is made by someone copying art
from various sources and making a whole new story of it.
Some of the art is *so* bad - even by Italian standards.  ;-)

But perhaps some elements can be traced to original sources:
like the king, wearing a crown (but probably added later)
and a butterfly and suit that makes him look more like a
concert pianist. I'd still say that this is, or has been,
Carpi art.

Researchers should remember that any sources would be pre-1971,
the date of the original publication of "How To Read DD".

--

Thanks, Santiago, for the information about Italian
subscriptions! What would an American think of paying
a hundred dollars a year for a 200 page pocket book
every week with lots of good art, but in a foreign
language? I am not even doing a cold turkey, but
still think it sounds like a sweet deal! :-)

Only too bad and a little incomprehensible that only
a handful of the many Italian Disney book titles are
available to overseas subscribers. Perhaps it would
change if demand was high enough.

I btw got a letter from the publishers of the Dutch
weekly recently, that expressed gratitude that a
foreigner would have interest in their books, and
asked me if I would please visit their web site and
fill in a questionaire. If I did so before December
31st 1999, I would even get a free ticket for the 
national Dutch sweepstakes. Only problem is I got
the letter on Jan. 17th. 
Well, at least they care. ;-)

--

I've also been meaning to say so: Thanks to 'WunderWurm'
for uploading those rare old Mickey strips. I hope to see
more of them in the future.

oLe
_U





From sonia_dyer at hp.com  Wed Jan 26 23:45:14 2000
From: sonia_dyer at hp.com (sonia_dyer@hp.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:45:14 -0800
Subject: Gladstone version of Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon" (Hans K
Message-ID: <H0000dd40dcff5c3@MHS>

     
     
     I found the side-by-side comparison very interesting.  The 
     "politically correct" changes are very subtle, but the more you look, 
     the more you see.
     
     Does anyone else have similar examples?
     
         Thanks,
           Sonia




From trygve at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jan 27 02:01:02 2000
From: trygve at tc.umn.edu (Tryg Helseth)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:01:02 -0600
Subject: Gyro appears in F&SF
In-Reply-To: <200001261100.MAA07391@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000126183503.00ad7740@trygve.email.umn.edu>

KRITON:

 > However, as both kinds of fiction could be described as fantasy, 
 > expanding from talking ducks to starships as one grows up makes
 > some sort of sense.

Well I have an interest in both Disney comics and Science Fiction, and Gyro fits well into both categories.  He seemed like the most likely Disney character to appear in F&SF.   I wonder, though, how many people are fans of both comics and SF.  I'd guess there are more SF fans that comic fans, but what percentage of each overlap the other?

ANDERS:

 > This sounds very interesting. Do you have the magazine yourself, or did
 > you see it somewhere on the net?  I don't think I speak only for myself when 
 > saying, that I would like to see the whole short story:-)

Unfortunately, I don't have this in electronic form.  I borrowed the magazine from a friend who alerted me to this story.  

Tryg
"Maybe I'm glad; maybe I'm sad; maybe I'm just a little mad!" -Gyro Gearloose




From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Thu Jan 27 11:57:13 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:57:13 +0100
Subject: How To Read Donald Duck (RE: Southern adventures)
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76C89@l04.research.kpn.com>

Ole:

> Looking at the few panels we
> know from the story, I'm getting more and more convinced
> that the art has not only been traced (redrawn) but most
> likely the whole story is made by someone copying art
> from various sources and making a whole new story of it.
> Some of the art is *so* bad - even by Italian standards.  ;-)

In the book "How To Read Donald Duck", *all* illustrations look like badly
traced copies of the stories. Even the Barks ones. Since the book was not
okayed by Disney, it sounds logical to me that they didn't have original
prints of the artwork.

BTW, the Dutch translation *was* made in cooperation with the Dutch Disney
editors...

--Harry.



From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Thu Jan 27 12:09:36 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:09:36 +0100
Subject: Where i can found Joe Carioca?
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76C8A@l04.research.kpn.com>

Fernando (?):

> Someone know something about Disney's brazilians Carioca histories 
> published in others countries?

We have the reprints we know about in our Inducks database. On the Web, you
can follow the links to the B-coded story pages from
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/xxstories.html. For instance to
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/files/stories/b-cod-80-89.stori
es, where you find information like this:

B 800019      17       MRS     MM  O Aperto Do Botao [xapp:MM,GO]
|			[ser:Star Patrol]
|			br: MK 365,MK 500
|			de: DD 409* (nn)
|			dk: HIA 4*,OJ89-11* (Rumbanditterne)
|			fr: PM 194 (Les cow-boys de l'espace)
|			it: MG 421,TL 1484* (Topolino E I Teppisti
|			Spaziali)
|			nl: M85-03 (Heelal op stelten)

A B-coded story reprinted in 6 countries: Brazil (br), Germany (de), Denmark
(dk), France (fr), Italy (it), and the Netherlands (nl)!

OK, this is not a Carioca story. Well, here's another example:

B 800025       6       RFu     JOC Propaganda Aerea
|			br: ZC 1679
|			it: MG 410

A JOC story (JOC = Joe Carioca) reprinted in Brazil and Italy. And there are
many more like these.

> I have some information in the brazilian 
> production and i like to speak more about it!

Please do! 8-)

--Harry.
http://here.is/inducks
mailto:inducks at comic.com



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Thu Jan 27 12:37:47 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:37:47 +0200 (EET)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #64 - 10 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200001271100.MAA22037@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001271331300.3173-100000@dias>

ANDERS CHRISTIAN:

> If Gladstone changed the Lentils of Babylon in their publication, I
> wonder what version Komix used? I have the Komix-publication of the
> story (which I can't read), but it looks very nice. 

Given that the comparison that we saw was between the Komix and Gladstone
versions, I would assume that Komix used the original version. Too bad they
made a mess of the plot, though, as we discussed a few days ago.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Making things Right is my profession.  Cheating Death's just a hobby..."
-----




From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Thu Jan 27 13:41:15 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:41:15 +0100
Subject: Dutch news
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76C8E@l04.research.kpn.com>

Last Monday, I wrote:

> Today I spent a full day at the Dutch Disney editors (VNU).

Some photographs made that day are on the Web at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p00-01.html

Photos of Lucas Abedy, Wilma van den Bosch, Frans Hasselaar, Michel Nadorp,
and chief-editor Thom Roep.
Just in case someone wants to know "how he/she looks like"...

--Harry.



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Thu Jan 27 13:46:15 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:46:15 +0100
Subject: kalevala, How to read
Message-ID: <200001271242.NAA88112@mail.mira.dk>

Don Rosa asks about the Translation of the IHO most important part of
Kalevala. 
I'm happy to tell you that the dansih dialogue on the place you ask for
is precisely what you wrote, just translated. and very nicely
translated. the translator even put in the danish forsage, which is the
same word as you put there. 

The german dialogue in the 1 panel in the last line of that page 30 of
the story talks about a heart that has waited/hoped for Scrooge's
return for a long time - Is he ready for that? No. 

To return to the coloring of the german version. it looks awsome yes,
with that background, and also the colouring in general is a little
darker (paper-quality?) 
The red and lightning with sometimes white spots to bring the ducks in
center is stunning, and I've only found one mistake, and I can be a
nitpicker (or whatever it's called) page 63 of the german mag 8page 32
of the story), the 3rd panel... the read, white fading to the right is
night, but to the left of the panel the white continues one milimeter
too much, and there's no fade. That's the only thing I noticed. I just
read the 
verses in the german version through, and it is very nice. 

BTW The kavalaeian rhytm isn't supposed to be 8-beat  by parts of
texts, but by sound? Is that right? it seems to be so in the german
version at least.

> From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br
In one of my weeklies from the end of the 50'es/beginning of 60'es
there's a christmas story, where Donald and the kids receive cards from
allover, including Jose Carioca, and I think the card includes a
drawing of a pinata, a thing that you hit on and something good comes
out.
Since then I believe he has only appeared in a mag from 1994 where he
was pictured, and referred to the original cartoon he was in.

OLE
Your theories about tracing and copying art from different story to
make 
that story that we see panels from in the How to read DD... 
I can follow you on the king being some pianist. he doesn't look very
royal, 
except for the crown. 

I was thinking about asking the danish translator of the book, Mr.
Vinterberg, 
but I seem to have forgotten if he works for a newspaper or not... (If
I remembered that, i could contect the paper and ask for him)

Tryg Helseth 
> Unfortunately, I don't have this in electronic form.  
> I borrowed the magazine from a friend who alerted me to this story.  
Okay. How new is the magazine and is it solely norwegian or english?
I ask because i could maybe contact the publisher

> Tryg
> "Maybe I'm glad; maybe I'm sad; maybe I'm just a little mad!" -Gyro
Gearloose
What a nice quote. I remember when i joined this list, and it was one
of the first questions I asked. people answered, including Stefan Dios,
and he also talked about the swedish version that sounded very funny. 

HARRY
You're right that all the panels in the HTRDD look badly.. they might
be traced too, and they are most likely photo copies. 
Am I right that this book was burned in Chile sometime after it was
written, because of a change of leaders?

There's also other strange mis-translations in the book. The president
of Plain Awfull asks what the ducks can learn them to highen their
morals, and HDL tell him they can teach them to obey their leaders...
In the Barks-versions it was square-dance... 
Especially the barks-panels from the Vax Museum showed in the book are
badly copied and looks strange, like the chilean company published
another version of it. 

The back of the danish book has one of the panels from the
revolution/king-story with green color, a sort of ad for the book.
where the king says:
Why do the natives and wilds always freely give their treasures and
valuables to the ducks from far countries?
One of the kids ask why there's no parents in his stories. (The he is
supposed to be Walt himself, who was obviously believed by the world to
draw the whole thing himself! imagine how the kids in 1966 must have
fealt... no more duck comics, cause Uncle Walt is dead... (i am quoting
some swedes here:-) and imagine people saying, because barks also
retired that year: I think the quality fell after Walt died...
the other kids ask why Donald is so keen on statues and photoalbums
(most stories in the beginning of the sixites were started with a look
in the album). 
Donald asks what HDL are doing in Vietnam (is this a clue to do story
or just a reference to treasure of marco polo?) and if Walt Disney is
so innocent.

The book may say some rightfull things but they don't know much about
what they talk about, and I heard that the actual comic-reader of the
two writers has later regretted that he took part in the writing. 

The danish afterword is made by the comic-critic Vinterberg, who also
made a forword for the newest reprint-book in 1999 (1950)





From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Thu Jan 27 13:59:20 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:59:20 +0100
Subject: kalevala, How to read
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76C8F@l04.research.kpn.com>

ACS:

> The kavalaeian rhytm isn't supposed to be 8-beat  by parts of
> texts, but by sound? Is that right?

Rhythm is *always* "by sound"! That's the whole point of introducing a meter
in a poem!

[How to Read Donald Duck]
> Am I right that this book was burned in Chile sometime after it was
> written, because of a change of leaders?

I don't know if it was burned literally, but it certainly was *banned* in
the days that Pinochet "took over" from Allende. Pinochet's quite a "hot
item" in the news these days, BTW.

> There's also other strange mis-translations in the book.

I think the book has actual quotes from the Chilean comics (re-translated to
English/Danish, of course). I think the Chilean comic translators introduced
some extra "anti-communist" stuff in their version of the stories!

(So the *drawings* may have been traced or retouched, but the *texts* were
original, taken from the Chile comics.)

> The book may say some rightfull things but they don't know much about
> what they talk about, and I heard that the actual comic-reader of the
> two writers has later regretted that he took part in the writing.

I think that was about the American translator, David Kunzle.

--Harry.



From leo.herranen at raketti.net  Thu Jan 27 15:16:56 2000
From: leo.herranen at raketti.net (Leo J. Herranen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:16:56 +0200
Subject: Get me off the list.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000127161656.007a56b0@mail.raketti.net>

YEp. As the subject line says. I get bored as I can't find any of my
friends here...
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Kohokuja 3
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Finland
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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan  2 16:02:27 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:02:27 +0100
Subject: Barks Boulevard
Message-ID: <200001271508.QAA01551@mail.mira.dk>

This is the name of a Boulevard in Duckburg. It's very nice of the
persons who wrote, drew or translated the story coded D 98341 to credit
the old Duck master for what he has done for Duckburg, so of course
there's a road in the city named after him. The story is btw. about
Goofy, who is a very confused cab-driver!
I wonder if the other publications of the story also say Oak steet (or
whatever road Donald lives on), Barks Boulevard, Goosestreet. The story
should be out in Norway and Sweden too if the issues are still
foloowing eachother. 

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com  Thu Jan 27 18:23:18 2000
From: kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com (Joakim Gunnarsson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:23:18 +0100
Subject: You can't guess.
Message-ID: <001801bf68eb$3b79bb20$9fc2c6c3@default>

Nice to see some writings on both the scandinavian weeklies and Romano Scarpa in the last DcD-Digest.

And now the trillion dollar question:

Guess who drew the all new D-coded Mickey Mouse and Peg Leg Pete story that will appear in Weekly #7. (A *really good* story by the way! Written by David Gerstein.)

/Joakim Gunnarsson.




From sko at acoustics.dk  Thu Jan 27 18:43:16 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:43:16 +0100
Subject: You can't guess.
References: <001801bf68eb$3b79bb20$9fc2c6c3@default>
Message-ID: <389083B4.FF16ADBF@acoustics.dk>

JOAKIM:

> Guess who drew the all new D-coded Mickey Mouse and Peg Leg Pete story that will appear in > Weekly #7. (A *really good* story by the way! Written by David Gerstein.)

It wouldn't be a certain Mister C, would it? If it isn't R himself :-) I
didn't know that David was "directly" involved though...

S?ren



From j.heino at pp1.inet.fi  Thu Jan 27 21:21:27 2000
From: j.heino at pp1.inet.fi (Janne Heino)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:27 +0200
Subject: Kalevala end in Finland 
References: <200001271100.MAA22009@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <005001bf6904$1955c3e0$8d03a5c3@default>

In the finnish version Vaino asks Scrooge is he ready to abandon Yukon where Goldie is for eternal wealth if Scrooge will come with him to Kalevala... well this is how i think it says here in Finland...

Janne Heino
j.heino at pp1.inet.fi 




From ridout5 at erols.com  Thu Jan 27 23:41:28 2000
From: ridout5 at erols.com (Ridout)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:41:28 -0500
Subject: extras
References: <200001271100.MAA22037@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000c01bf6917$c446c5c0$d77dfea9@ridout5>

Anders Christian Sivebaek:

>So i wish I could get a "non-extra-subscription"... But
>as long as that isn't possible, I have two nice boxes where I put the
>extras... and I take the card out, and save it while I might put the
>so called nails in a plastic bag with all the other extra junk!

I bet you could easily get rid of all that junk on ebay--you could make
extra money to put towards *even more* comic books!

Tryg:

By the way, Science Fiction happens to be the only type of literature that I
spend as much time reading as comic books. I think they're extremely
compatable :-)





From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Fri Jan 28 00:34:36 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:34:36 -0200
Subject: En: ABRIL is back!!!
Message-ID: <007b01bf691f$18db6f80$55fabfc8@fernando>



 
Yes, Brazil production off Disney Comics return with new histories, that i'll be exported to various countries! My name is Fernando Ventura and I'm a new writter and drawer to off some off this...But i'm just in the principles off it.Various studios will do the production to Abril( more or less like the Comicup), the Studio Primmagio Mantovi, the NW Studio( i'm here!) and the Fukue Studio.I like to put some examples(scans)off it on the Net, but, How I Can Do It???!!!
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From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:34:41 -0200
Subject: En: ABRIL is back!!!
Message-ID: <007c01bf691f$54bc6a40$55fabfc8@fernando>



 
Yes, Brazil production off Disney Comics return with new histories, that i'll be exported to various countries! My name is Fernando Ventura and I'm a new writter and drawer to off some off this...But i'm just in the principles off it.Various studios will do the production to Abril( more or less like the Comicup), the Studio Primmagio Mantovi, the NW Studio( i'm here!) and the Fukue Studio.I like to put some examples(scans)off it on the Net, but, How I Can Do It???!!!
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From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Fri Jan 28 00:48:41 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (fernandopventura@uol.com.br)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:48:41 -0200
Subject: I'M SORRY...
Message-ID: <FP0Q55$Iqmj9eKB76Wvp9VD2SvZivN5SvpeESZCoGBK8rBK4uN@uol.com.br>

I'M SORRY FOT THE TWO SIMILAR MESSAGES





From mnaiman1 at home.com  Fri Jan 28 16:43:12 2000
From: mnaiman1 at home.com (Michael Naiman)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:43:12 -0800
Subject: one pager
Message-ID: <3891B8EE.28D22408@home.com>

I had a call from an old fan who was looking for the WDC&S issue that
this one pager appear (he thought that it was an inside front or back
cover.

Donald is in a car, has an accident, takes a scooter out of the trunk,
has another accident, takes skates out of scooter and proceeds to run
into a phone booth (?)

Any help here??

Thanks
BTW: No recent progress on the Disney/Geppi negotiations....this gives a
whole new defintion to the word "Glacial"




From nils at math.uio.no  Fri Jan 28 14:28:07 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:28:07 +0100
Subject: re DD one pager 
Message-ID: <200001281328.OAA04906@dioscuri.uio.no>

Michael Naiman asks where to find this: 
<<Donald is in a car, has an accident, takes a scooter out of the trunk,
has another accident, takes skates out of scooter and proceeds to run
into a phone booth (?)>>
At least I've a clear memory of this page (and of Donald's reasonably
unaffected facial expression, as he skates away, after the two accidents), 
by Taliaferro, possibly from one of the Norwegian Taliaferro books. 
I can have a look if I find time. -- I suppose there is no well-working 
easy-to-use Taliaferro index around, with key words and so on? 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From trygve at tc.umn.edu  Fri Jan 28 14:41:56 2000
From: trygve at tc.umn.edu (Tryg Helseth)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:41:56 -0600
Subject: Gyro Gearloose and SF
In-Reply-To: <200001281100.MAA12701@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000128070417.00a99f00@trygve.email.umn.edu>

ANDERS: 

 > Okay. How new is the magazine and is it solely norwegian or english?
 > I ask because i could maybe contact the publisher

Fantasy & Science Fiction magazine is a long running US publication established in 1949.  They have a web site with information on the magazine that features this issue, which is still current.  That web site is http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/, and their email address is fsfmag at fsfmag.com.

 >> "Maybe I'm glad; maybe I'm sad; maybe I'm just a little mad!" -Gyro
 >> Gearloose

 > What a nice quote. I remember when i joined this list, and it was one
 > of the first questions I asked. people answered, including Stefan Dios,
 > and he also talked about the swedish version that sounded very funny. 

That was you?  I remember that discussion a couple of years ago.  It inspired me to include that quote as one of my Disney comics signatures.   Of all of the Disney comics characters, Gyro has been the one I identified with the most.

RIDOUT:

 > By the way, Science Fiction happens to be the only type of literature that I
 >. spend as much time reading as comic books. I think they're extremely
 > compatable :-)

Yes, I think that a large percentage of comic book fans are also science fiction fans, but don't have any data to back that up.  

Tryg 

"You can never build a machine so smart that there won't
  be some jerk too dumb to run it."
                                   - Gyro Gearloose




From mortenjo at ifi.uio.no  Fri Jan 28 16:18:04 2000
From: mortenjo at ifi.uio.no (Morten Lied Johansen)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:18:04 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Barks Boulevard
In-Reply-To: <200001271508.QAA01551@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0001281610440.12408-100000@grotte.ifi.uio.no>

On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Anders Christian Sivebaek wrote:

> I wonder if the other publications of the story also say Oak steet (or
> whatever road Donald lives on), Barks Boulevard, Goosestreet. The story
> should be out in Norway and Sweden too if the issues are still
> foloowing eachother. 

Here in Norway, there are no references to Barks or anything else. The
roads Goofy are trying to find are all pretty usual, not connected to
anything else (As far as I know)...


PS.
Not everybody in Norway feel like some certain persons about names in
subjects. Me, for one would very much like it if you somehow let me know
if it's for me... :)

-- 
Morten Lied Johansen





From H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com  Fri Jan 28 17:26:56 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at research.kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:26:56 +0100
Subject: re DD one pager
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522A76CA3@l04.research.kpn.com>

Nils quoted:

> Michael Naiman asks where to find this: 
> <<Donald is in a car, has an accident, takes a scooter out of 
> the trunk,
> has another accident, takes skates out of scooter and proceeds to run
> into a phone booth (?)>>

and asked:

> I suppose there is no well-working 
> easy-to-use Taliaferro index around, with key words and so on? 

The only search facilities we currently have are plain text searches in very
big files. I did that just now, and it worked!

The gag, I think, is the sunday newspaper gag from July 12, 1942. Reprinted
in WDC 27 (1942, title: "Keep 'Em Rolling") *and* WDC 61 (1945)! Known
European reprints:

de/61-06 (Reifenpannen am laufenden Band)
de/77-30 (Auto/Motorroller/Einrad/Rollschuh)
dk/AA77-27 (k?rer videre!)
nl/84-46
se/77-26 (F?rf?ljd av otur)
se/93-24
se/KADAG

(The German "Auto" was the keyword that took me to the right place.)

--Harry.
http://here.is/inducks



From onl78 at start.no  Fri Jan 28 17:47:35 2000
From: onl78 at start.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? =D8rjan?= Langbakk)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:47:35 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa's mail adress?
Message-ID: <003b01bf69af$c2ffcac0$2a359fc3@rjanLangbakk>

Hi!

I was wondering if anyone have Don Rosa's e-mail adress?

Maybe Don Rosa himself will answer my question? (I know you read and
contribute to this mailing list :-)

Best regards
Ørjan





From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jan 28 20:49:17 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:49:17 +0200
Subject: Articles from KOMIX #139
Message-ID: <yam8062.894.292035616@dias.cti.gr>

I am posting a translation of two editorials from last month's Komix,
as well as the interview with Don from that issue, as I believe they are
of general interes to the list. [Items within square brackets are my
own comments. Everything else is as faithful a translation as I could
make from the original Greek. Remember that "Especially Dedicated"
is the Greek title for "A Little Something Special".]

Enjoy,

Kriton.
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                            *** WARNING ***
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The end of Don's interview contains an even bigger spoiler for "A
Little Something Special" than Geoffrey Blum's article in the Gladstone
publication, as Don explains why that article spoiled the story for
those who hadn't read it yet. [Yes, Komix published the interview *after*
the story.]
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                            *** WARNING ***
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[From the letters page]

_The issue of Komix that you hold in your hands is a double, celebratory
issue, celebrating the new millennium with a special on the three top artists,
Carl Barks, Romano Scarpa, and Don Rosa, with three three of their best
stories. Especially dedicated, then, from all of us to all of you. Many happy
returns!

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               From America to Italy and back again
                        THREE TOP CREATORS

    Regarding the most important comics creators in the Disney world, it
    appears that success always knocks three times. the role they played
    in forming the duck mythology was definitive. Today, their work is
    read by and entertains millions of readers throughout the world and
    it appears that it will continue to do so in the coming decade.


Carl Barks, Romano Scarpa, Don Rosa.  The conditions under which they
developed their creative activity were distinctly different among them. Carl
Barks began drawing his stories in America of the '40s, at the time when
comic books began to appear. In Italy, Scarpa, starting from Gottfredson's
work, began building his own tradition and putting the foundations for what
would later become known as the Italian school. Many years had to pass until
Don Rosa, driven mainly by his admiration towards the great master, Carl
Barks, created his own classic stories, continuing the tradition.


THE DUCK MAN'S ERA

During the time when Carl Barks accepted Western Publishing's proposal to
create each month a ten-page story starring Donald Duck for Walt Disney's
Comics & Stories, he had already worked as an animator at Disney Studios. It
would not be an exaggeration to say that thanks to his pen, the ducks became
some of the most famous and most recognizable comics characters in the entire
world. During his long carrier, Barks created an entire universe for the
ducks, while he also breathed life into characters that enriched that universe.
Characters such as uncle Scrooge, Magica, the Beagle Boys, Gladstone, and
John Rockerduck.


AND THERE WAS... SCROOGE

Barks drew stories that would first of all satisfy himself. When, in 1947, he
needed a rich uncle for a Christmas story starring Donald, he created a
character that would transcend time and become famous throughout the world, the
extremely rich Scrooge McDuck. At first, he was nothing but a very rich duck,
a parody of Ebenezer Scrooge from Charles Dickens' story _A Christmas Carol_,
and nobody could imagine that this duck would meet with such a success.
However, thanks to the pen of his creator, uncle Scrooge acquired a
personality and a past, whose roots reach to the American pre-industrial age
and the years of the gold rush.

Today, Barks story production, from 1942 up to 1967, when he retired, looms
impressive, and uncle Scrooge's long adventures have a prominent place in the
heart of the readers. Their hero has become a trademark of the classic
barksian adventure.


ITALIAN SPECIALTY

During the middle of the '50s, in neighboring Italy, a Venetian artist called
Romano Scarpa would undertake the difficult task of continuing the Mickey
Mouse stories drawn by another American pioneer, Gottfredson. The Italian
creator created adventures through which his Mediterranean temperament was
strongly expressed. *The Lentils of Babylon*, which we publish in this issue,
are one of the best samples of Scarpa's artistic vein where, apart from the
drawing, he also signs the script of most of his adventures.

The "comics maestro", as his fans call him, also created a multitude of new
characters that enriched the Duckburg and Mickey City universe, exactly like
Carl Barks had done, whom the great Venetian had the opportunity to meet and
to exchange compliments, ideas, and drawings with him. Not hiding his
admiration for Scarpa's work, Barks will mail him an idea that not only would
the Italian maestro turn into a story, but would be used excessively by his
imitators: the dollar perfume which drives uncle Scrooge mad.


THE ROSA PHENOMENON

During the end of the '80s, the lack of a great story-teller, such as Carl
Barks, had been more evident than ever. Neither his stories, which were already
being reprinted since 1970, nor the few by Romano Scarpa, which even after a
decade had managed to cross the Atlantic, were enough to cover the needs of
comic books. It was then that, in 1986, like a deus ex machina, Don Rosa made
his appearance.

After the publication of his first story, titled *Son of the Sun* (_Komix_
#89), the road opened for the most charismatic successor of Carl Barks. During
his, up to now, twelve-year career, Rosa had created a series of
stories that read like novels, which have redefined the duck universe, while
the grand epic, which he created in 1992, the *Life and Times of Scrooge
McDuck* (_Komix #100-111), has been honored with the Will Eisner award. Until
then, never before had the ducks' adventures contained so many references to
older stories, inside jokes, and hidden details, which initially only Barks'
studious readers were in a position to find.

Until then, this element from the series of stories that he created could only
be found in super-hero comics series, where readers would confirm their
"complicity" with the artist and the fanatical admirers of the character,
through elements that only they could recognize.


JOURNEY THROUGH THE WORLD

When Carl Barks retired, he left his successors a rich inheritance. He did not
seek for the wonderful stories that he created to have a temporal continuity
within the framework of a larger story, such as Batman's, for example, where
the hero's past has been determined in every detail. Today, however, his
stories keep being read with the same pleasure, although decades have passed
since the time they were created, making his work a classic. In his large
journey through the world, from America to Italy and back again, Barks' work
has inspired creators such as Scarpa and Rosa to create their own classic
masterpieces whose timeless value time and readers have confirmed.

[Captions, p.6:]
Don Rosa, Carl Barks, Romano Scarpa

[Captions, p.7:]
Top left: the fictional dimension of Scrooge the prospector, from Don Rosa's
pen.
Top right: Mickey tells of his adventures in this drawing by Romano Scarpa.
Bottom left: An oil painting by Carl Barks titled The Black Gold Miner.

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      The evolution of an art through the work of three of Disney's tops

                 THREE GENERATIONS, ONE ART, ONE CENTURY

Three artists, three generations of creation, one young art that has happily
completed its first 104 years and has every reason to look at the new century
with optimism.


THE CHARISMATIC PIONEER

Carl Barks belonged to the generation of pioneers, the generation that has
nothing and can win everything. When he worked in the comics field, almost in
the middle of his career, he was already a mature and recognized artist who
had in his assets a successful history in the cartoon field. When he was asked
to transfer the world of Disney's cartoons to the printed page, he had to
start from scratch. Without teachers and armed with his talent and experience,
the only limits to what he could achieve were the limits of his imagination.
Thus, uncle Carl slowly set up an entire universe around Duckburg's microcosm
and created a great, classical style.


THE EUROPEAN SUCCESSOR

The universe of Disney characters had already been formed to a large degree by
creators such as Carl Barks and Floyd Gottfredson when Roman Scarpa came to
add his own brush stroke. The charismatic Venetian played a definitive role in
acclimating American comics to the Old Continent. The noir esthetics of his
Mickey stories is reminiscent of Floyd Gottfredson, and uncle Scrooge's
adventures hide with difficulty his influence by the work of Carl Barks.
Scarpa managed to renew the esthetics of Disney comics by injecting it with a
warm Mediterranean temperament that allowed him to set up stories with a
complex and unpredictable plot, as well as add new characters with a
characteristic personality and almost surrealistic figures to the duck
universe.


A NEW START

During his first steps, Don Rosa had to prove his worth not only to his
colleagues and rivals, but to his teachers, as well, since he was addressing
to an already formed audience with difficult tastes. Instead of choosing to
break with the past, Don preferred the return to the roots. A fanatical
admirer of Carl Barks, Rosa studied the universe of his great teacher, with the
studiousness of a scholar, and looked for originality in the art of expanding
and studying in depth. *The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck* (_Komix_
#100-111) was not just a recap of epic dimensions of the biographical data of
the richest duck in the world, which had been strewn throughout Carl Barks'
pages; above all, it was an attempt to find the deeper meaning of the Duck
Man's huge work. Don Rosa may have not added many new characters to the duck
world yet, however, he has enriched the character of the heroes that his
teachers have  created, and has introduced modern and contemporary questions
to his stories.


IN THE THRESHOLD OF THE NEW CENTURY

The pioneer with the unbridled imagination, the Venetian with the
Mediterranean temperament and the European education, as well as the citizen
of the world from Louisville, may represent three different generations, three
different ways of thinking, but deep down they are more alike than it seems:
all three of them are great story-tellers.

Thanks to creators such as Carl Barks, Roman Scarpa, and Don Rosa, the account
for the first century of the duck world is more than impressive, and this may
be the best omen for the fate of the Ninth Art in the new millennium.

[Caption:]
Barks at work, Scarpa at his drawing board, and Rosa posing in front of his
favorite characters.

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    Don Rosa talks to _Komix_ about the back stage of his story

                          ESPECIALLY DEDICATED

    _Especially Dedicated_ is an... especial story in many respects. The
    creator of this unique story, Don Rosa, agreed to answer _Komix_'
    questions and to share with us his thoughts, exclusively for his
    Greek friends.

KOMIX: How do you explain the fact that Scrooge's employees and his fellow
citizens are so well-informed about his adventures?

ROSA: In the final chapter of the _Life and Times_ I show, according to my
version of things, that Scrooge had retired from action at the end of the
'30s and, after this, Duckburg had forgotten almost everything about him.
Nobody realized that he was so rich! When he left his seclusion in 1947,
Duckburg learnt about the glorious and turbulent life of Scrooge McDuck.


KOMIX: Where did they learn about so many details, though? Through the press?
Or are Barks' and Rosa's comics  also published in Duckburg?

ROSA: Well, yes! They learnt all they know about Scrooge from Duckburg's
newspapers. I also believe that Duckburg's Television shows an animated series
showing an inaccurate version of uncle Scrooge's life, without his
authorization. Scrooge is always trying to sue the producers of this series...
This is my personal opinion about the place of the _DuckTales_ series in the
universe of Barks and the ducks.


KOMIX: In many of your stories, Scrooge comes face to face with his own past.
Do you like these stories more than those where we see him simply trying to
increase his vast fortune?

ROSA: Absolutely!!! You have noticed, of course, that in my stories Scrooge
never ever manages to keep the treasure that he was hunting. I believe that
for some time now, writing a story where Scrooge becomes even richer than he
is, is not at all interesting. Who cares? Scrooge is already as rich as he
could be! It is much more interesting, however, to see why and how he fails to
achieve his goals...  Sometimes the mistake is his, and other times it is the
result of forces beyond his control. This is the lesson taught by the greatest
movie ever filmed on the subject of treasure hunting: John Huston's _Treasure
of Sierra Madre_, starring Humphrey Bogart. The film would have had absolutely
nothing to teach us, if the gold seekers had managed to "keep" their gold. In
reality, the movie talks about about the absurdity of greed and the great
importance of little things. The same theme appears in the more recent motion
picture treasure hunts of the Indiana Jones trilogy. It is exactly this that I
am trying to achieve by writing uncle Scrooge adventures. I try to show that
Scrooge McDuck is incredibly proud of his achievements, of everything that he
has accomplished in his life, and this is not because he has become rich, but
because he sees his accomplishments as the triumph of his will and abilities
over all kinds of adversity. Money only has value for Scrooge as a trophy of
his victories. I also try to show that, despite his riches, Scrooge is "only a
poor old man" at heart, just as Barks has said. He is troubled by certain
unfulfilled desires and perhaps he would have preferred to have stayed in the
Yukon with his lost love...


KOMIX: Working on translating your story, we couldn't find what a
"_veeblefram_" is, to which Scrooge refers on page 11, and we translated it as
a "gold-plated spiked hammer"! What is it?  Is it something that one could
buy? [These guys have little sense of humor. At least they came up with a
funny-sounding improbable object; the thing I translate as a "spiked hammer"
is something with which you bang metal to remove rust, so it's one of the last
things one would consider gold plating!]

ROSA: I'm not sure, as I've never heard of it! Perhaps the version of the
script you have for my story has an error at that point. Is it the word
"veeblefetzer", which I use often--although it doesn't mean anything in
particular? In any case, it is not a reference to an older story by Barks. It
is just a synonym for "gadget", "thing", a kind of "whatchamacallit". I often
use such funny, meaningless words, which I used to encounter in MAD magazine
during the '50s. As you know, MAD magazine was a comics magazine before
becoming the familiar modern satirical publication.


KOMIX: Us Greek readers have a particular fondness for Donald. In _A Little
Something Special_, he seems to feel, somewhat more than usual, his uncle's
sensitivities. Are we right?

ROSA: Hm... Yes, although I rarely find the time to develop this side of
Donald. I'm afraid that my favorite character is Scrooge, and the main bulk of
my work aims to develop his personality. However, I believe that Scrooge and
Donald have a certain special relationship, but I don't think that Donald
should be "sensitive" enough to realize this. I believe that I must always
show him feeling "envy" for his trilionnaire uncle and that Scrooge must
always display a lack of respect and sarcasm towards him! Despite all this, I
believe that Scrooge behaves this way because he knows that Donald's life is
happier and that his fortune is a burden, which is something that, among other
things, prevents him from returning to the Yukon to find Goldie. Scrooge is
envious, in turn, of Donald, and for this reason he treats him badly. Of
course, there is no way, nor does he dare, to admit it... not even to confide
it to himself. Hewey, Louie and Dewey know, this, as well, as they are the
most "mature" persons in my stories. I always try to show a few details about
the relationship between Scrooge and Donald, in many stories. I believe that
this is preferable to telling everything at once in just one story.

KOMIX: In _A Little Something Special_ we see, for the first time in decades,
Disney characters kissing, and in two different scenes at that. The first time
was, from what we recall, in 1943 in a ten-page story by Carl Barks,
*Lifeguard Daze* (Carl Barks 10x10). The first kiss in your story is just a
gag. The second, however, is that "little something special" that money can't
buy and which Scrooge wanted so much.

ROSA: I'm glad you say this! Some people have not even suspected that this
kiss was that unique gift that Scrooge desired. _Gladstone's_ people wrote an
introduction to my story, where they revealed the end... they said that the
kiss was just an epilogue to the main story. Damn! But it's in these two last
pages where the entire essence of the story lies! Yes, it is not a gag. It is
a very serious moment for Scrooge! And mainly what Goldie whispered in his
ear. What did she tell him? What did she promise? Only I know, but you can
guess.

[Caption, p.39:]
The cover of the story for _Uncle Scrooge Adventures_ #2.
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From bolcano at tin.it  Fri Jan 28 21:10:37 2000
From: bolcano at tin.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:10:37 +0100
Subject: One pager
Message-ID: <008101bf69cd$3677db60$5c69d8d4@ccse0315>

Michael:
> I had a call from an old fan who was looking for the WDC&S issue that
> this one pager appear (he thought that it was an inside front or back
> cover.
> Donald is in a car, has an accident, takes a scooter out of the trunk,
> has another accident, takes skates out of scooter and proceeds to run
> into a phone booth (?)
That's a Taliaferro Sunday page, namely the one dated July 12th, 1942.
The Inducks reports that the gag was reprinted in WDC&S 27 (December 1942),
under the title "Keep 'Em Rolling"; probably not on the inside front cover,
but in one of the first pages of the comic (just guessing from the issue
index).
A more exact description is as follows:
Donald is in a car, a tyre bursts, he takes a scooter out of the trunk, a
tyre bursts again, he takes a unicycle out of the scooter's (rather large)
trunk, the unicycle's tyre bursts, he takes skates out of his bag and
proceeds to run into a pole. In the final panel, he's being carried away by
an ambulance, but has a happy look on his face (he's able to keep on
travelling, after all...).

Hope it helps,
Armando







From kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com  Fri Jan 28 21:06:05 2000
From: kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com (Joakim Gunnarsson)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:06:05 +0100
Subject: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <000b01bf69de$36265040$3cc2c6c3@default>

Soren wrote:
>It wouldn't be a certain Mister C, would it? If it isn't R himself :-) I
>didn't know that David was "directly" involved though...


Yes, it *is* Romano Scarpa doing an all new Mickey story together with David in #7! Something to look forward to.
And there's a new William Van Horn in the same issue too!
(64 pages in glorious color for $2.50...end of commercial...)

/Joakim Gunnarsson,
frilans.bamse at egmont.se

Oooops! I almost forgot to mention that genius
Kari Korhonen has a nice one pager in #6. 






From nyssa42 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 29 02:12:22 2000
From: nyssa42 at hotmail.com (Nyssa Emrys)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 01:12:22 GMT
Subject: price?
Message-ID: <20000129011222.99091.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could give me an estimate as to what the "Uncle 
Scrooge: The Great Wig Mystery" might be worth. Thanks

~Nyssa~
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From Heyraymond at aol.com  Sat Jan 29 06:35:01 2000
From: Heyraymond at aol.com (Heyraymond@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:35:01 EST
Subject: Gladstone Back issues
Message-ID: <6b.12c9a05.25c3d605@aol.com>

Hi everyone,
    
    I would like to know if anyone knows where I can find Gladstone Comics 
back issues on the internet?  Any particular internet stores or people that 
offer these?  Thanks in advance.  

                                                    Sincerely,
                                                Arthur S Bowman



From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jan 29 12:59:36 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:59:36 +0100
Subject: Right answer = RS!
References: <000b01bf69de$36265040$3cc2c6c3@default>
Message-ID: <037301bf6a58$97f75ba0$8c53d8d4@darthmaul>

From: "Joakim Gunnarsson" <kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com>

> Yes, it *is* Romano Scarpa doing an all new Mickey story together with
David in #7! Something to look forward to.

Definitely!! Now.. what is this #7 you are talking about and how can I get
one? :-)

Sprea




From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jan 29 13:01:08 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:01:08 +0100
Subject: Articles from KOMIX #139
References: <yam8062.894.292035616@dias.cti.gr>
Message-ID: <037401bf6a58$b953b3c0$8c53d8d4@darthmaul>

From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>

> I am posting a translation of two editorials from last month's Komix,
> as well as the interview with Don from that issue, as I believe they are
> of general interes to the list.

OH yes! Thanks!! Having some Komix and not being able to read those articles
is really bad :-(

Sprea




From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 29 15:39:42 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:39:42 CET
Subject: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <20000129143942.53381.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Joakim Gunnarsson" <kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com>
>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:06:05 +0100

>Yes, it *is* Romano Scarpa doing an all new Mickey story together with 
>David in #7! Something to look forward to.

But... Doesn't those people work for different companies? I didn't know that 
Disney Italia artist did the art for stories written by Egmont writers. Has 
anything like this happened before?

>And there's a new William Van Horn in the same issue too!

Seems to be a good issue! Will any Rota or Rosa stories be published soon?
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From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 29 15:45:33 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:45:33 CET
Subject: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <20000129144533.56344.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Francesco Spreafico" <frspreaf at tin.it>
>Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:59:36 +0100

>Definitely!! Now.. what is this #7 you are talking about and how can I get 
>one? :-)

The Scandinavian (and maybe Finnish) weeklies. You can buy it in any stores 
in Sweden, Norway and Denmark.
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From pekka.malmstrom at uppsala.mail.telia.com  Sat Jan 29 16:22:22 2000
From: pekka.malmstrom at uppsala.mail.telia.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Per-Erik_Malmstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:22:22 +0100
Subject: SV: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <200001291522.QAA07074@d1o913.telia.com>

STEFAN:
> But... Doesn't those people work for different companies? I didn't know
that 
> Disney Italia artist did the art for stories written by Egmont writers.
Has 
> anything like this happened before?

Well, Marco Rota works for both. I believe he only does covers for Disney
Italia, though. 
 
> >And there's a new William Van Horn in the same issue too!
> 
> Seems to be a good issue! Will any Rota or Rosa stories be published
soon?

There's a new Rota story scheduled for August/September about our ducky
friend the viking. Don't know about Don Rosa, but that can easilly be
looked up at the Duckhunt-site. Which, btw,  gives me a perfect reason to
pay it a visit...

/Per-Erik



From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jan 29 16:19:00 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:19:00 +0100
Subject: Curious Mickey D-coded story
Message-ID: <000a01bf6a75$0a994d00$0550d8d4@darthmaul>

Or at least it seemed curious to me!
I'm not familiar with late D-coded stories, but I happened to read this D
93559 on the last (yep last, not latest) issue of Italian Topomistery and I
found in it:

- A priest (really called "curato" in Italian, that is "curate" of course)
- Christian Crosses everywhere.
- A pyromaniac.. quite psychopathic too.
- A Mickey particularly unpleasant.

Is this normal??

This are its reprints:
de/LT 229g    D 93559 MM  Dem Feuerteufel auf der Spur
dk/JB  188g   D 93559 MM  N?sten br?ndt af
nl/PK.41g     D 93559 MM
se/KAP 202g   D 93559 MM  Eldmakaren

Sprea




From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jan 29 17:25:02 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:25:02 +0100
Subject: Right answer = RS!
References: <20000129143942.53381.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01bf6a75$69def300$0550d8d4@darthmaul>

From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>

> But... Doesn't those people work for different companies? I didn't know
that
> Disney Italia artist did the art for stories written by Egmont writers.
Has
> anything like this happened before?

But Romano Scarpa does NOT work for Disney Italia anymore :-(

Sprea





From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 29 18:13:48 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:13:48 CET
Subject: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <20000129171348.44920.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Francesco Spreafico" <frspreaf at tin.it>
>Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:25:02 +0100

>But Romano Scarpa does NOT work for Disney Italia anymore :-(

NOT? When did he quit?
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From mnaiman1 at home.com  Sun Jan 30 08:36:57 2000
From: mnaiman1 at home.com (Michael Naiman)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:36:57 -0800
Subject: thanx
Message-ID: <3893EA1A.15C6DAB7@home.com>

Thanks for everyon'es help...it's like being connected to a gigantic
Disney Brain!!!!
Except...this one moves lightning fast!!!




From frspreaf at tin.it  Sun Jan 30 03:01:52 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:01:52 +0100
Subject: Right answer = RS!
References: <20000129171348.44920.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <045901bf6ac6$29187200$2f51d8d4@darthmaul>

From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>

> >But Romano Scarpa does NOT work for Disney Italia anymore :-(
>
> NOT? When did he quit?

His latest and last story for Disney Italia was
I TL 2198-1 Orazio e le riparazioni a catena (1998-01-13)

But maybe this was drawn before
I TL 2173-1 Paperino e le "pitto-pareti" boom (1997-07-22)

because in this one's last panel you can see an "adios" which means
"Good-Bye" in Spanish (and now Scarpa lives in Spain)

After that he made a story for the French Hachette, but nothing more for
Italy.

Sprea




From c_seiten at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 30 11:20:53 2000
From: c_seiten at hotmail.com (Claudio Eckert)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:20:53 PST
Subject: Questions
Message-ID: <20000130102053.92863.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello again!
After a long time (and lurkin since a few weeks) I return to the list to ask 
some qustions:


McDuck Tartan

(Sorry, if this was asked before:)
In LO$, chapter 9: "The Billionaire of Dismal Downs", Scrooge tells Scottie 
to "run to the castle and fetch me a proper McDuck tartan". In the german 
translation of "The Hound of the Whiskervilles" it is claimed that the 
McDuck Tartan is lost "since the days of the hound". But this was about 200 
years ago! Just wondering... :-)


K.F.S. in Scamp One-Pager

While reading old issues of MM-weekly I discovered the words "King Features 
Syndicate" in a Panel of a Scamp-story (ZX-coded One-pager, German MM No. 
15/1971). Any hint what this is about? You can find a scan here: 
http://www.clau.de/scamp.jpg

- Claudio


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From kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com  Sun Jan 30 11:51:48 2000
From: kalas.puff at falkenberg.mail.telia.com (Joakim Gunnarsson)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:51:48 +0100
Subject: SV: Right answer = RS!
Message-ID: <003001bf6b10$2e748460$ddc2c6c3@default>

Stefan Persson wrote [about the new Scarpa & Gerstein story]:

>But... Doesn't those people work for different companies? 
>I didn't know that Disney Italia artist did the art for stories written by 
>Egmont writers. Has anything like this happened before?


Scarpa doesn't work for Disney Italia anymore as far as I know, 
but now and then does some freelancing for the french publisher 
(Just as Don Rosa does.) and now also for Egmont. 

Another example is the Scrooge story written by Byron Erickson 
and drawn by Giorgio Cavazzano, published a few years ago.

Now back to work!  [I have to draw two pages of "BAMSE" and complete 
a script for a long adventure story before I dare to show up at work tomorrow...]

/Joakim Gunnarsson
frilans.bamse at egmont.se







From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 13:19:36 2000
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:19:36 EST
Subject: King Features
Message-ID: <7a.f5c651.25c58658@aol.com>

Claudio  writes:

> While reading old issues of MM-weekly I discovered the words "King Features 
>  Syndicate" in a Panel of a Scamp-story 

King Features Syndicate is the name of the company that syndicated the Scamp 
newspaper strip to newspapers.  Thus this tells you the Scamp story was a 
newspaper strip reprint.

Steven Rowe



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan 30 16:25:56 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:25:56 +0100
Subject: NILS, TRYG, MORTEN and others (iisue 66)
Message-ID: <200001301522.QAA93189@mail.mira.dk>

NILS
Easy-to-use Taliaferro index
The Inducks should work as such an index, but I'm not sure.

TRYG
Thanks for the adresses, I'll check them.

> The mad quote

Oh, well, Maybe I saw the quote here and then asked, I'm not sure. I
joined the list as soon as i was connected online from home, and that
was summer 1998. 
Before that i didn't even now that one could get a free email at
certain places.

Scientific comic-fans. 
We could make a survey here? How many of you read both (Duck) comics
and science fiction. 
I am one of them. As I see Jules verne as the father of the genre, and
I've read a bunch of other SF-books too.

Another nice quote at the end. this time I haven't got an idea where it
comes from...

MORTEN

Thanks for reseaching the road-question in the Norwegian weekly, 

Meantime I asked the danish translator, and he is the man. he told me
that he used the Boulevard name 3 times before. (Myckey Mysteries
95-11, AA96-48 and AE 97-02 to the interested parts). I still think
it's a very nice tribute, and am sorry that I hadn't noticed it before.
I remember that a map of Duckburg came out in 1998 and it must have
been too old as this Boulevard wasn't on... To defence themselves back
then, they of course said that "Duckburg is a city under development,
so don't be surprised if new roads suddenly turns up."
One thing is sure though: In danish comics Donald lives on a street
called Paradise Aple Road. I don't know for how long he has lived
there, and I wonder if the gladstone, or maybe Barks had certain
charecter living on certain roads, for many years?

PS: I know what you refer too, and I hope the involved norwegian will
sometime forgive me. I haven't even read the faq for the newsgroup we
are both in.

?RJAN

Hi! and I think it's nice to see you her, as I haven't seen you here
before.

> I was wondering if anyone have Don Rosa's e-mail adress?

> Maybe Don Rosa himself will answer my question? (I know you read and
> contribute to this mailing list :-)
When Don Rosa contributes here the next time, if he hasn't allready by
now, you'll be able to see his adress in the adress-field, it's that
simple:-)

KRITON
Thank you so much for translating those big editorials. I have the
issue itself, and I will print the translattion out, thank you:-)

"Nyssa"

> I was wondering if anyone could give me an estimate as to what the
"Uncle 
> Scrooge: The Great Wig Mystery" might be worth. Thanks
The classic answer to such a question here is: what you yourself think
it's worth. 
I already have the story myself, so I wouldn't be intreested. try
selling it at an auction-page.

ARTHUR
again, an auction-page would be the right choice (maybe ebay?). or
perhaps www.brucehamilton.co (The page where galdstone is also
situated), you can find 
form to fill in to get back-issues




From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jan 30 16:46:11 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:46:11 +0100
Subject: Sv: DCML digest, Vol 1 #67 - 12 msgs
Message-ID: <200001301703.SAA99627@mail.mira.dk>

Hi!
Is the Romano Scarpa-story you talk about coming in our weeklies?! Wow,
I must have been sleeping, that sounds great.

PEKKA

> Don't know about Don Rosa, but that can easilly be looked up 
> at the Duckhunt-site. Which, btw,  gives me a perfect reason to
> pay it a visit...
Duckhunt is not completely up to date about that issue at the moment,
but 
the Coin was published in France, and Attaaaack is on the way in
Frence. 
Don told me in private what he's working on, but we'd better ask if he
wasnt 
the list to know:-)

AC



From arthur at concepts.nl  Sun Jan 30 21:28:39 2000
From: arthur at concepts.nl (Arthur de Wolf)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:28:39 +0100
Subject: 12 known copies?
References: <200001301522.QAA93189@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <005f01bf6b60$97d6c350$491842c3@quicknet.nl>

Hoi,

Someone is selling a copy of Uncle Scrooge #159 on eBay and claims something
wrong, in my opinion. The auction reads the following:

"Michael Naiman wrote an excellent article on this book for Comic Book
Marketplace a while back, and has since conducted an informal census on the
ownership of Uncle Scrooge #179, and has stated that there are 12 KNOWN
COPIES. This is perhaps the BEST EXAMPLE of this RARE BOOK."

You can find it at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=244553132

I don't think it's accurate to say that the census on this mailing list,
that he is probably talking about, means that there are only 12 known copies
of the comic in the whole world!!

Greetings,

Arthur de Wolf
Rotterdam, the Netherlands





From arthur at concepts.nl  Sun Jan 30 21:44:38 2000
From: arthur at concepts.nl (Arthur de Wolf)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:44:38 +0100
Subject: Influence of HD&L on society
References: <200001301522.QAA93189@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <006301bf6b62$d3ac8890$491842c3@quicknet.nl>

Hoi,

yesterday I picked up a copy of a book entitled "Het Duckdenken"
(="Duckthinking"). The cover says: "The influence of Huey, Duey and Louie on
our society". I haven't read it completely yet. It was written by Michiel
Hegener, published by Contact Uitgeverij (ISBN 90 254 9884 1).

The back of the book reads: (translated from Dutch):

"Most of the people who currently have top-positions in the Netherlands grew
up in the 50s and 60s and were reading Donald Duck. In the Donald Duck
weekly magazine it is the children that are experts, wise and smart, and it
is the adults that make blunders. The nephews of Donald Duck seem to be a
very important role model for the managing generation of today. The analysis
of Michiel Hegener shows that the entire policy for the scientific and
business world has roots in the ideas of Huey, Duey and Louie. [...] That
not many people talk about this is easy to explain: which minister,
industrial worker or professor has the courage to explain his work with a
pile of Donald Ducks? Huey, Duey and Louie play a key part in the "how &
why" of our society. Their influence is noticeable on many levels: from the
organisation-advisors to girlpower. In "Duckthinking", Hegener exposes the
far-reaching influence of the nephews."

It's a little bit far-fetched and weird, but interesting and funny. The book
is based on Carl Barks' world and is illustrated with pictures of his
stories.

Greetings,

Arthur de Wolf
Rotterdam, the Netherlands







From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Jan 31 07:27:08 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:27:08 +0200 (EET)
Subject: KOMIX #140
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10001310826410.28018-100000@poseidon>

Here's what's in the February issue of Komix:

* The cover is from WDC&S #629 by Michael Nadorp. You can find a scan of this
  cover at http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix140.jpg
* An article about the Orient Express, titled "The Legend of the
  Orient Express", subtitled "Travel in the Belle Epoque with the train
  of adventure and mystery".
* "Scandal on the Epoch Express" (H9347), with script attributed
  to Jan Kruse and David Gerstein and art attributed to Bas Heymas [sic].
  [According to Gladstone's credits, David wrote the American script,
  and Bas Heymans only penciled the story.]
* An interview with Don Rosa titled "The Back Stage of a Story", subtitled
  "_Komix_ talks to Don Rosa about luck, the ducks, and Barks. Reading the
  interview, I was surprised to learn (knowing Don, perhaps I shouldn't have
  been) that "distelfink" is not a silly word he made up! [Yes, I will be
  translating the article.]
* Don Rosa's "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink" (D97437). For some reason,
  although they know what a "distelfink" is, they use for it a word that means
  "a useful item that one finds by chance, especially a good quality product
  sold at a very low price".
* An article titled "The Secret of Good Luck", subtitled "Don Rosa, Gladstone
  and the Triple Distelfink.
* William Van Horn's "From Wince We Came" (D94207).
* Barks' "Forecast Follies" from Uncle Scrooge #16, starring Gyro Gearloose.
* An article titled "In the Comics Jungle", subtitled "Why and in what way is
  a survival guide necessary..."

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I often wish I could be as nice as me."
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From donrosa at iglou.com  Mon Jan 31 15:25:42 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:25:42 -0500
Subject: digest #68
References: <200001311100.MAA32706@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <005601bf6bf9$02d670e0$b3ecffcc@default>

In answer to some recent queries:

*My e-mail address is above (I assume).

*I am working on a 28 page Donald Duck adventure for Egmont entitled "The
Three Caballeros Ride Again!", one I've been planning to do for about 10
years. After that (*months* from now), I'll begin doing a new "Lo$" story
for PICSOU (since Egmont says they don't want those anymore).

*As for that most recent U$ #179 sale on eBay -- I see the new auction-end
selling price is just a bit more than half of the previous one. It was
bought by the runner-up in the previous auction, a collector of Whitman
publications of any sort... not a comic or Disney or $crooge fan. And I
examined the list of bidders and their bids -- they are all "the usual
suspects" -- I see that the third bidder down the list is someone I know,
and he tells me that he erred when he placed that bid on someone else's
advice. Therefore, that means that regardless of what that second highest
bidder bids if he bids again on the next U$ #179 that shows on eBay in a
week or two, and if these other same people bid again (as is happening in
each auction), due to the fact that the other bids were *much* lower, the
comic will sell for about $100 (as that will be the runner-up bidder's
bid), which I'd say is a reasonable price. And this tempest in a teapot
will end. Which I'll be happy to see, because these eBay sellers are
placing editted quotes from *this* mailing list into their
auction-descriptions, using *us* to drive up the price of the bidding on
that freak comic, something that irritates me not a little.
(For any non-eBayers in the audience who are puzzled by some of the above,
the main point about eBay is that the winning bidder does *not* pay the
amount of his bid, but he simply pays one increment over the second-highest
bidder's bid, probably $1 or $2.50 at these levels. See?)




From cnotw at zen.it  Mon Jan 31 21:29:07 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:29:07 +0100
Subject: Orazio...
Message-ID: <20000131195124Z65582-41142+305@merganser.its.uu.se>

Ciao,

about the story Orazio e le riparazioni a catena (1998-01-13), I read...
>
> But maybe this was drawn before
> I TL 2173-1 Paperino e le "pitto-pareti" boom (1997-07-22)

SURE! It was published later, but drawn before (so Scarpa told me).

Luca



