From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Sun Jul 16 00:13:54 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 18:13:54 -0400
Subject: Barks influence on Spielberg and more.....
Message-ID: <20000715.181920.-102481.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

Someone (Arie?) asked if Spielberg "stole" any of Barks' ideas.  Though I
can't say it was outright "stealing" I do recall reading in an old Cross
Talk column (Gladstone's "coming attractions" feature for those of you
who don't know) that Barks' Micro Ducks From Outer Space (US 65) story
was the inspiration for the the movie Batteries Not Included.

Also, I just got the new Overstreet price guide, and it looks like
"values" for US 179, DD 222 and WDC&S 480 have finally been adjusted.  US
179 has the current market value of $125. which seems to fit nicely with
the prices we've seen it going for lately.

One last thing:  The price guide says that US digest 5 is scarce, meaning
that only 20-100 copies are known to exist.  Can this be correct?  I can
vouch for this issue missing from my collection, and I've had an
increasingly difficult time finding digests, but I find it hard to
believe that *any* book made by a major company in the last 15 years can
be *that* difficult to come by.  Anyone have any thoughts on this?


Rodney Bowcock


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From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Thu Jul 20 17:09:03 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:09:03 -0400
Subject: religion questions.........
Message-ID: <20000720.110907.-105249.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

I think I can help with 2 of your questions.

1)* US 63-02 ("House of Haunts"): What does Donald say on page 13, panel
1 and page 14, panel 3?

page 13, panel 1:  DD:  Oh, my stars!  This means that by now Uncle
Scrooge's money cache is a disaster area!  
Nephew:  Uncle Scrooge, come back!

page 14, panel 3:  US:  You spoke to me, Donald!  You can see me!  You
must be a spirit too!  
DD:  I-I--What did those Beagle Boys do to you?

2)* WDC 146-01 ("Omelet"): What does the woman say on page 5, panel 7?

Woman:  Is it a plague of locusts?
Man:  No!  Just those screwball ducks again!


Hope this helps.  I do have the Bottled Battlers story around somewhere,
but I don't know what book it's in for sure, and I'm a little short on
time right now.  If no one else can help you find it let me know and I
will.

Rodney Bowcock

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From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Mon Jul 24 00:20:31 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:20:31 -0400
Subject: libraries with Duck stories
Message-ID: <20000723.183600.-30455.1.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

Most libraries here in the states have a small selection of "trade
paperback" books that generally reprint popular newspaper strips (those
of you familiar with the Peanuts and Garfield books know what I'm
speaking of).  While doing research for a school project I went to the
large public library in downtown Cincinnati OH and discovered a couple of
the Gladstone Comic Albums.  I've never seen any actual comic books at
any library.  They simply are too frail, and there isn't enough interest
in them (in the USA) to warrant any library spending the valuable, and
scarce, funds on them. 

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From GaryB98294 at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 15:34:19 2000
From: GaryB98294 at aol.com (GaryB98294@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:34:19 EDT
Subject: Carl Barks' health
Message-ID: <14.5b679e7.268f4d5b@aol.com>

  The Comic Book Electronic Fanzine reports the following on Carl Barks:

ARKS PREPARES FOR FINAL ADVENTURE!
AILING DUCKMAN REFUSES MEDICATION!

June 29: News of the health of Carl Barks, released on the Internet
this week, is not good. Barks, at 99 perhaps the greatest living comic
book artist, is suffering from leukemia and has refused all medication
that will prolong his life.

In a letter posted to the Carl Barks Message Board last week, family
friend, Detlef Giesler said:

Dear family and friends,
It is Carl`s wish that I write to his close friends and family and
explain his current health condition. As most of you know Carl was
diagnosed with Leukemia in July of 1999. The doctor has been treating
the cancer with a very mild form of oral chemotherapy. Over the past 4
to 6 weeks Carl`s health has steadily become worse. He is very weak 
and
tired, and spends the greater part of his day in bed or resting in his
chair. Carl has requested all medications that are prolonging his life
be stopped. He will no longer be given his chemotherapy pills.

Helen Hunicke and I oversee Carl`s care. We are doing everything in 
our
power to keep him comfortable. Helen arranged for Hospice care. There
is a nurse and an aid who assist in Carl`s personal care and work with
his doctor to insure that he is receiving the correct medication to
help keep him comfortable. Short letters, cards or family photos would
be enjoyed and appreciated, but please know that Carl is unable to
respond to them. Helen or I will periodically keep you informed as to
his condition. Also phone calls and visits should be kept brief due to
the fact that he tires very quickly.

Cards and letters can be sent to:
Carl Barks, 1415 NE Heritage Drive, Grants Pass, OR 97526 USA



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  2 01:33:00 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:33:00 +0300
Subject: Leaving for holidays...
Message-ID: <20000701233426.29679.qmail@hotmail.com>

I wish to all DCML members  have a nice summer, 'cause I'm leaving for
holidays in Crete tomorrow. I'll be back on September. If I find any old
Komix mag, I will send some copies to all of you (If you asked me about).
See ya!
(Don't forget to visit my page!)

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Sun Jul  2 09:01:01 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 09:01:01 +0200
Subject: KOMIX e-mail address
Message-ID: <yam8218.62.292296576@dias.cti.gr>

The e-mail address for KOMIX has changed yet again. According to this month's
issue, their address is now:

naktina at terz.gr

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From gwtank at email.msn.com  Sun Jul  2 18:12:14 2000
From: gwtank at email.msn.com (gwtank)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:12:14 -0700
Subject: Messages to Carl Barks
Message-ID: <002001bfe440$4a151a00$6a070e3f@u16z6>

Detlef Giesler repeated a message that was sent a few weeks ago. Carl's health is deteriorating. I have offered my services as a go-between so that if persons wanted to write him messages of good will they can do so by email. This gives better assurances that they will arrive in time.
Again I want to express my thanks to those persons who have already sent messages via the email route. These have been delivered daily. Carl can not respond personally to his fans, so again I take this opportunity to thank those of you who have sent messages, THANK YOU FROM CARL BARKS. gwtank at msn.com
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From gwtank at email.msn.com  Mon Jul  3 06:05:37 2000
From: gwtank at email.msn.com (gwtank)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:05:37 -0700
Subject: Carl's message
Message-ID: <003d01bfe4a3$f2a89580$d4070e3f@u16z6>

I hope that you can open and forward the graphics which were just sent. It is a personal thank you from Carl, developed at his behest. It was written by his loyal caretakers, namely Helen and Serene Hunike and Helen's sister Carol. Other caretakers include Erin and David. 
Of course, as long as Carl survives email messages can be sent on to me for daily forwarding at gwtank at msn.com
G.W.Tank, MD
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From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Jul  3 07:42:56 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:42:56 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Komix #145
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0007030841310.27780-100000@poseidon>

Here's what's in the July issue of Komix:

* A cover by Carl Barks. I've put a scan in
  http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix145.jpg
* A two-page article titled "The Beagle Boys' Club"
* Carl Barks' "Heedless Horseman"
* "Deep Sea Trouble" (D96115), written by Per Erik Hedman and drawn by Vicar.
* A one-page article on Fantasia 2000.
* "The Ghost Train" (D96218) by Noel Van Horn.

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From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Jul  3 07:46:08 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:46:08 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Articles from Komix #144
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0007030842590.27786-100000@poseidon>

Here are two articles from last month's Komix, which I believe are of
interest to the list:

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        From Duckburg to Eldorado, in the company of the Ducks
                IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE GILDED MAN

    In 1952, Donald discovers the whereabouts of the Gilded Man.
    In 1996, his rich uncle discovers the gold of Eldorado...

We are in 1952. Carl Barks has laid the foundation for the Duck world,
but uncle Scrooge has not yet become the central character of the
multi-page adventures that send the duck family to distant and exotic
places. Donald's rich uncle has taken a few trips, but he has not yet
become the romantic adventurer that will travel across the world in
search for lost treasure...

On the contrary, Donald has made many travels, and has lived many
adventures in South America. He has already discovered, since 1949, the
weird Plain Awful (*Lost in the Andes*, _Komix_ #1). Three years later,
in *The Gilded Man* (_Komix_ #2), he will discover what became of the
legendary indian ruler, who was responsible for the birth of the legend
of Eldorado.

THE MYTHICAL GILDED MAN

The motives for Donald's travels are completely different from those
for uncle Scrooge's. In _The Gilded Man_, the nephew of the richest
duck in the world arrives in British Guiana, not in search of a mythical
treasure, but of a rare stamp. His search leads him to the footsteps of
a heroic mailman, who fell into the hands of a mysterious indian tribe a
hundred years ago. In the end, Donald and his nephews manage to discover
this tribe. Almost by chance, the ducks solve a mystery that had been
tormenting historians and adventurers for centuries: always according to
Carl Barks' story, after the invasion of the conquistadores, the legendary
ruler and his tribe abandoned the plateaus of today's Colombia and sought
refuge somewhere in the heart of the jungle of British Guiana...

A LOST DOCUMENT?

In Carl Barks' story, nobody is particularly interested about gold. The
treasure that Donald is seeking is merely a rare stamp. As for the Gilded
Man and his people, they are probably fed up with this precious metal,
since, to them, silver, which is rarer in their parts, is worth a lot more
than gold.  It is for this reason that they stole the bag of the heroic
mailman: its silver buckles have made it appear as a precious prize. It is
exactly this preference of the Gilded Man's people to silver which will
allow our friends to escape. Donald's nephews come up with the brilliant
idea to paint the Gilded Man silver, who is now in seventh heaven after
this radical change in his wardrobe. "Oh, we just figured out that if
he'd been wearing that gold outfit since Sir Walter Raleigh's time, he'd
like a new shade in his summer linens", comment the three smart nephews.

We do not know why Carl Barks did not wish to show uncle Scrooge
discovering Eldorado. It is obvious that it would have been rather
awkward to have his beloved character solving a mystery that his nephew
had already solved, and by chance at that...

DON ROSA EX MACHINA

Pity. And this because uncle Scrooge had already discovered a bunch
of mythical places and even more lost treasures that entire hordes of
adventurers had been looking for, from the *Seven Cities of Cibola*
(_Komix_ #3) to the *Fountain of Youth* (_Komix_ #50).

Fortunately for the Ducks' friends, Don Rosa did not hesitate to take
up the challenge. He managed to give us a completely original story,
thanks to a very simple but brilliant idea. He did not have the richest
duck in the world looking for the treasure of a mythical ruler; he had him
following the footsteps of certain historical persons, who had looked for
the same treasure four and a half centuries ago. This time, however, it
is not his foolish nephew who came before him, but three of the greatest
adventurers of all time. nd such a "second place" is no small matter.

_The Last Lord of Eldorado_ is neither one of the sequels of Barks
classic tales that are dear to Rosa, nor is it an exercise in the style
of his predecessor.  It is an original "classic" story, with the seal
of an important creator.

[Caption, bottom left]
The birth of a legend: From the first decades of the 16th century, the
first conquistadores had already been talking about a strange custom of a
people in the New World. The ruler of the Chibcha tribe used to cover his
body with gold dust and dive ceremonially in a sacred lake, in the area
where Bogota lies today, while his subjects threw jewels and gold items
in its waters. Don Rosa recorded this particular custom with his pen.

[Caption, top right]
Oil painting by Carl Barks inspire from his story *The Gilded Man*
(_Komix_ #2).

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              A Croesus in the footsteps of the conquistadores
                          SCROOGE IN ELDORADO

    In _The Last Lord of Eldorado_, Don Rosa sends the richest duck in
    the world on the footsteps of some of the greatest adventurers of
    all time.

The legend of Eldorado was born just a few decades after the discovery of the
New World by Christopher Columbus, in 1942. Already, since the first decades
of the 16th century, some of the first conquistadores would talk about a
strange custom of a people of this new continent. The ruler of the Chibcha
tribe would cover his body with gold dust and dive ceremonially n a sacred
lake, in the area where Bogota, the capital of Colombia, lies today, while his
subjects threw jewels and gold items in its waters. Initially, the name "El
Dorado", which means "The Gilded Man" in Spanish, referred to this local
ruler. Later, however, it was considered to be a place name. Thus, El Dorado
became a new Promised Land for all sorts of greedy or dreamy adventurers, who
sailed for the new World in search of gold, glory or ideal cities.

IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE CONQUERORS

Don Rosa places his story in this historical framework that is both strange
and appealing. As usual, his historical references are very precise, and, most
important, to the point. The three historical persons mentioned in the
story have many similarities with the richest duck in the world. Sebastian de
Belalcazar (1490-1551) was a typical conquistador. He was a rough, illiterate
soldier of low birth and had proved many times that he had been something more
than "tougher than the toughies". On the Contrary, Gonzalo Jimenes de Quesada
(1499-1579), a man who had studied law and who had already taken certain
important positions of state office in the Spanish colonies in the New World,
had been one of the few educated conquistadores. Don Rosa's Scrooge, however,
has plenty of historical knowledge. As for Nicolaus Federmann (+1546), he
worked for the Welser Bank, one of the first large banks in Europe, which
could enthrone and depose kings. As a financier and banker, he is almost a...
colleague of uncle Scrooge. Exactly as the tycoon from Glasgow contributed
definitively to the history and the development of the fictional Duckburg,
Quesada and Belalcazar founded cities, while the Welser house played a
definitive part in the history of modern Venezuela.

These three adventurers were neither the first nor the last to search for the
legendary city of Gold. Gonzalo Pizarro tried again in 1539 and Francisco de
Orelana searched for Eldorado in the Amazon area, in 1541. In 1560  it was the
turn of the Basque Lope de Agire[sp?] (his adventures were put to film by
Werner Herzog), while Sir Walter Raleigh, who is mentioned in _The Gilded
Man_, tried his luck in the area of the Orenoco river in 1595.

ROSA'S ADVENTURE

In his story, Don Rosa gives us more historical references than those we have
just mentioned. However, they are not dull didactic interventions. Organically
incorporated into the story, they give us reason for wondering and dreaming.

[Caption]
A characteristic sample from the ingenious Don Rosa: the truck that Donald
drives in the _Last Lord_ has an amazing resemblance to that driven by Yves
Montand in Henri Georges Clouzot's _The Wages of Fear_.


[Side panel]

IN SEARCH OF THE ELDORADO

The enjoyment of Don Rosa's stories does not end at their last page. Full
of all sorts of references from the most diverse sources, his stories
become of themselves the reason for other travels to our library.

The first stop in this journey is of course, the old issues of _Komix_;
The _Last Lord_ has whetted our appetite for another reading of the
classic stories, such as *The Gilded Man* (_Komix_ #2), *The Seven
Cities of Cibola* (_Komix_ #3), *The Prize of Pizarro* (_Komix_ #24)
by Carl Barks and *Son of the Sun* (_Komix_ #89) by Don Rosa.

After comics, it is the turn of other writings. The legend of Eldorado
has become the source of inspiration for numerous writers, poets and
intellectuals with a galloping imagination, but a less adventurous
character than the old conquistadores. To limit ourselves to the
classical writings, we could leaf through John Milton's _Paradise Lost_
or some collection of poems by Edgar Allan Poe to read _Eldorado_, a
small melancholy diamond. An equally classic--but more amusing--tale
is _Candide_ by Voltaire. There, the Eldorado discovered by the main
character of this hilarious philosophical fairy tale is a small utopia
or, rather, a small parody of a utopia, too beautiful, unfortunately,
to be true.

After the books, movies. The atmosphere of the _Last Lord_ brings to
mind pictures such as _Treasure of Sierra Madre_--which Don Rosa must
like a lot--or John Huston's _The Man Who Would Be King_. For those
who want to feel a more intense excitement, we suggest the thrilling
_Wages of Fear_ by Henri Georges Clouzot (the movie was filmed in 1953,
a year after the publication of Carl Barks _The Gilded Man_...) if for
no other reason than because uncle Scrooge's truck in the _last Lord_
has an amazing resemblance to the truck that Yves Montand drives! For
even more intense thrills and a more authentic period atmosphere, there
is, of course, Werner Herzog's _Agire_[sp?] with Claus Kinski playing
the part of the familiar conquistador.

Finally, we could refer to Dreamworks' new movie, _The Road to Eldorado_.
Although we have not seen it yet--at the time that these lines are
being written--the fact that some film critics compare it to Carl Barks'
classical stories can only make us curious!

[caption]
Impressive frames from Dreamworks' movie, titled _The Road to Eldorado_.

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From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sun Jul  2 19:09:21 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:09:21 -0300
Subject: Disney Classics and censorship!
Message-ID: <004b01bfe448$460b7f00$c21ebfc8@v2h5i1>

Dear friends,

    I know that it is a little off-topic, but I think is very much important
to us, Disney Comics fans and artists.
    The Disney Company are cutting, changing, removing pieces from the
classic shorts and features that they think can be ofensive to some groups.
In others words, they are DESTROING the original art from the Disney
artists. We, Disney fans, are buying CHANGED things, and not the ORIGINAL,
as Walt Disney planned to present to the public. We are not able to see the
original masterpieces of animation, principally the movies made during the
Second War, as Der Fuehrer's Face.
    Patrick Malone, head of "The Encyclopedia of the Disney Animated
Shorts"site is trying to change it, expoising ower opinion about it direct
to the Disney Company. Please, before this begin to happen to the comics
too, tale a look at his site, and if you agree with ower opinion, help us,
clicking on the first banner on the page and sign the guestbook!
Thanks, and waiting that you understand this off-topic mail,

Fernando Ventura!
 (oh, yes, the URL is: http://www.geocities.com/~eutychus55/ )

Thanks to all!





From starback at ling.uu.se  Mon Jul  3 19:25:02 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 03 Jul 2000 19:25:02 +0200
Subject: Carl's message
In-Reply-To: "gwtank"'s message of "Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:05:37 -0700"
References: <003d01bfe4a3$f2a89580$d4070e3f@u16z6>
Message-ID: <qz7lb3m8i9.fsf@substantiv.ling.uu.se>

Gerhard Tank wrote:

> I hope that you can open and forward the graphics which were just sent.
> It is a personal thank you from Carl, developed at his behest.

Actually only plain text is suitable on this mailing list, and the
posting you refer to was automatically stopped.  The picture you sent
of the letter can now be seen at

	<http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/barks-mailing.jpg>

though.



From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Jul  3 17:34:52 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:34:52 +0200
Subject: Italian Inducks update
Message-ID: <3960B29C.92E8BA39@libero.it>

Hello,

After a long time, the Italian issue web pages
(http://members.xoom.it/inducks) have been updated with the
latest Inducks release data, thanks to the effort of the Inducks
team.

Now there is possible to find complete indexes for Topolino
libretto (more than 2300 issues), Almanacco Topolino, Zio
Paperone, I Maestri Disney, just to cite some of the many issues
of Italian production: actually there are more than 5800 issues
with at least one entry...

There are also indexes from Italian Disney creators: Scarpa,
Bottaro, Cavazzano, but also writers such as Martina and Cimino.

Hope you enjoy the site... and let me know your feedback. ;-)

   - Paolo

-- 
http://members.xoom.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

"Voi, laggiu'! L'aereo delle 14.01 che passa sopra casa mia
mentre schiaccio il pisolino pomeridiano s'intende soppresso!
Capito?"
(Governatore John Paperon in I TL  228-A)





From cnotw at zen.it  Mon Jul  3 21:23:17 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:23:17 +0100
Subject: R: Carl's message
Message-ID: <20000703184020Z270478-11262+322@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi,  Per, and all!

Ypu wrote...

> Actually only plain text is suitable on this mailing list, and the
> posting you refer to was automatically stopped.  The picture you sent
> of the letter can now be seen at
>
>  <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/barks-mailing.jpg>

But... Nothing was there!
I only found this text:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Error/fel

File not found!
The file was not found. This might be due to recent restructuring of the
website. Navigate from the main page . Please direct comments, suggestions
and complaints to webmaster at stp.ling.uu.se.

... And so I did!

Maybe that the problem could be solved...

Bye!

Luca



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  3 22:05:02 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:05:02 CEST
Subject: R: Carl's message
Message-ID: <20000703200502.16473.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Luca Boschi" <cnotw at zen.it>
>To: Per Starback <starback at ling.uu.se>, dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: R: Carl's message
>Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:23:17 +0100
>
>Hi,  Per, and all!
>
>Ypu wrote...
>
> > Actually only plain text is suitable on this mailing list, and the
> > posting you refer to was automatically stopped.  The picture you sent
> > of the letter can now be seen at
> >
> >  <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/barks-mailing.jpg>
>
>But... Nothing was there!
>I only found this text:

It worked for me...
________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com




From ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu  Mon Jul  3 23:08:41 2000
From: ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu (Donald Ault)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:08:41 -0400
Subject: Carl's message
Message-ID: <01bfe532$dd902480$93a1e380@default>

Gerry Tank asked me to post the July 3 message from Carl Barks to all his
fans. It can be found at:

http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/letter.jpg

Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551







From starback at ling.uu.se  Tue Jul  4 15:08:14 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 04 Jul 2000 15:08:14 +0200
Subject: R: Carl's message
In-Reply-To: "Luca Boschi"'s message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:23:17 +0100"
References: <20000703183935Z270478-54528+323@merganser.its.uu.se>
Message-ID: <qzu2e6vy9t.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>

me>  <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/barks-mailing.jpg>

Luca> But... Nothing was there!
Luca> I only found this text:

Sorry, all of /~starback was unavailable for about 15 minutes right then.

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From Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se  Tue Jul  4 17:21:50 2000
From: Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se (Ola Martinsson)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 17:21:50 +0200
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #190 - 6 msgs
References: <200007041000.MAA23411@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3962010E.BAC4A998@uab.ericsson.se>

Hi everyone  !

In one of the latest issues of the Swedish Kalle Anka there is new
character. Morty and Ferdie has a mom !!! Yes a mom that they live at.
Not an aunt or uncle !!  Incredible.

Anyhow she is kinda sweet an has rather long hair. Black that is so it
looks like the rest of the head. you have to have some imagination
there. Sorry but I can't scan her so that you all can see. She doesn't
have a name and is only referred to as mom. 
She only appears in the first pages of the story which basically is a
story about how M&F wants to play football with the famous team
youngsters but will have to do with playing for a very mediocre team
indeed. They actually doesn't win the game but it's a tie.
I definitely think that the EM in football has something to do with
this.
The football team has appeared again in another story two issues later
but no more of the mom.

Have a nice summer '

Ola in sunny Stockholm + 20



From sko at acoustics.dk  Tue Jul  4 18:43:29 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:43:29 +0200
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #190 - 6 msgs
In-Reply-To: <3962010E.BAC4A998@uab.ericsson.se>
References: <200007041000.MAA23411@numerus.ling.uu.se> <3962010E.BAC4A998@uab.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <00070419021100.01462@localhost.localdomain>

OLA:

> In one of the latest issues of the Swedish Kalle Anka there is new
> character. Morty and Ferdie has a mom !!! Yes a mom that they live at.
> Not an aunt or uncle !!  Incredible.

Right. I asked the same question on the indexers list some three weeks
ago...

---

> I've just read the new D 99290 written by Paul Halas and drawn by
> Rodriques. In that story we are introduced to Morty and Ferdie's
> mother(!)
> 
> I find that quite odd. Can we expect her to be Mickey's sister then,
> or...???

---

...but I should of course have addressed this mailing list. Ole replied
with:

---

> But let's just gather all the info first: on the Swedish list
> Joakim Gunnarson first announced the new "concept" and then
> replied to a similar "?!" thusly:
> 
> >Hon dök upp för första (och enda?) gången i de amerikanska
> >dagstidningarna söndagen den 18 september 1932.
> >"Mrs. Fieldmouse" Överlämnade sina barn för barnvaktning till
> >grannen Musse Pigg.
> >Och där blev de kvar...
> 
> I.e. along with MF's first appearance we also met mrs. Fieldmouse
> for the first time. Inducks lists several reprints of the strip,
> so most of us should be able to find a copy. Not me though, so
> a scan would be appreciated.

---

I have just recently indexed D 99290 with the appearance of a "Mrs.
Fieldmouse". Perhaps Paul Halas read the old strip and got inspirred,
still we don't know if she's Mickey's sister or otherwise related.
Perhaps David has a few words to add here... :-)

Søren




From dghez at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  7 11:40:15 2000
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 02:40:15 PDT
Subject: Disney in Argentina
Message-ID: <20000707094015.92156.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi,

Could an Argentine list member living in Buenos Aires contact me by private 
mail ?

Thanks a million in advance.

Didier
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From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Thu Jul  6 20:14:08 2000
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:14:08 +0200
Subject: Ole
Message-ID: <3964CC70.911BD2C8@c2i.net>

AA94-34:
D 93233 "Det sk?ve farst?rn" is 8 pages the Danish file. It's 7 pages
in DD&Co 94-34.


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From bolcano at tin.it  Sat Jul  8 19:30:44 2000
From: bolcano at tin.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:30:44 +0200
Subject: Somewhere in Italy
Message-ID: <015001bfe902$7dc2fb80$0d6dd8d4@ccse0315>

Here's a piece of info I found on eBay:

<< A story written by Mr. Barks with John Lustig, and drawn by Pat Block, is
being released in hardback this fall in Italy in English and Italian
worldwide >>

So, it seems "Somewhere in Nowhere" is going to be published, at last...
(The above sentence is all I know about the matter. It was "drowned" inside
a long description of an item for sale on eBay - a Pat Block watercolor).

Ciao,
Armando





From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Tue Jul 11 00:07:08 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:07:08 -0400
Subject: Somewhere In Italy
Message-ID: <20000710.180712.-30251.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

I find it very interesting to learn that Somewhere In Nowhere is being
released in English by Disney Italy.  Hopefully, sales of the English
version will be high enough for them to realize that people here in the
US are willing to pay the price for English copies of Disney comics.  I
know I would certainly be willing to pay for English versions of Zio
Paperone.  

By the way, is the US license still in limbo, or has Diamond given up? 
It seems awful for me to say this, but I wouldn't blame them if they did,
at this point.  I'm amazed that Disney honored Carl Barks with a piece on
the Disney Channel, yet they won't even allow stories with the characters
that he created to be published here.  But, I guess that's just more of
the same stupid games that Disney has been playing for the last 10 years
or so.

Rodney Bowcock


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From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Tue Jul 11 03:00:03 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:00:03 -0400
Subject: slightly off topic, was Re: Somewhere In Italy
References: <20000710.180712.-30251.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>
Message-ID: <396A7193.8ADF4352@mpinet.net>


"Rodney w bowcock jr." wrote:

>
> By the way, is the US license still in limbo, or has Diamond given up?
> It seems awful for me to say this, but I wouldn't blame them if they did,
> at this point.  I'm amazed that Disney honored Carl Barks with a piece on
> the Disney Channel, yet they won't even allow stories with the characters
> that he created to be published here.  But, I guess that's just more of
> the same stupid games that Disney has been playing for the last 10 years
> or so.

Tell me about it, I just bought Disney's MAKE MINE MUSIC on DVD, and was
stunned to find that the entire "Martins and the Coys" segment had been cut.
The only reason I can think of for this is that there is (shudder) gun fire
in this one. Sheesh!




From nils at math.uio.no  Tue Jul 11 04:22:22 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:22:22 +0200
Subject: essay on Barks 99 in `Dagsavisen' 
Message-ID: <200007110222.EAA19911@hephaistos.uio.no>

Anders Heger, among the chief executive officers
of the major Norwegian publishing house "Cappelen",
and a journalist/debater/writer/essayist of recent 
increased fame because of his highly praised book
on Agnar Mykle, writes a column every Sunday on page 2
of the "Dagsavisen". His pen is free and his themes are 
wide-ranging, and the collective heading of these 
essays is "Free thoughts".

Well, last Sunday Heger devoted his half-page to
Carl Barks, "Uncle Carl" at age 99-and-a-half, 
quoting parts of a message from our Disney Comics
mail-list concerning Carl's deteriorating health. 
Heger uses the opportunity to praise Barks and 
his work in general, and the power and spellbinding 
aspects of his stories for children in particular.
Anders joins the long list of grown-ups claiming
to have been taught to read by Barks, and explains
that having read Barks helps a reader to jump into
other and more "grown-up" stuff like (e.g.) Dostoyevski.
This boss of modern literature goes on to say that Barks 
is among the very greatest adventure writers of our times. 

Heger ends this Sunday contribution with a quote 
from Uncle Scrooge #8 (1955), where the professor 
obsessed with inventing smell-free cabbage says, 
"There are too many masters of the world. And too 
few good friends." In the context in which this is
quoted, the reader sees Barks as a good friend 
and Disney as among the masters... 

Heger's essays are always accompanied by high-quality,
original drawings, by Tor Bomann-Larsen, himself active 
on the comic book market, and known in Norway for his 
wonderul and long comic book story about Nansen and Amundsen. 
I understand the drawing made for the Dagsavisen column 
on this occasion portrays Dostoyevski with a "Donald Duck & Co." 
under his arm. [I haven't actually seen the final thing; 
I have only seen Heger's pre-pubication draft and heard 
from another about the Dostoyevski drawing.] 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Tue Jul 11 05:19:45 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:19:45 -0300
Subject: slightly off topic, was Re: Somewhere In Italy
Message-ID: <000201bfeaf0$b84f0420$56e329c8@default>

Make something about:
http://members.aol.com/disneypetition/

>Tell me about it, I just bought Disney's MAKE MINE MUSIC on DVD, and was
>stunned to find that the entire "Martins and the Coys" segment had been
cut.
>The only reason I can think of for this is that there is (shudder) gun fire
>in this one. Sheesh!
>





From fethry.duck at excite.com  Tue Jul 11 12:18:59 2000
From: fethry.duck at excite.com (Trygve Vatle)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:18:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 3. essay on Barks 99 in `Dagsavisen' (Nils Lid Hjort)
Message-ID: <29873845.963310741073.JavaMail.imail@blizzard.excite.com>

For those interested and who knows Norwegian. The article can be found here:

http://www.dagsavisen.no/kommentar/fritanker/2000/07/489918.shtml?string=barks

Unfortantely, no drawing...


Trygve






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From elenabaldi at lineone.net  Tue Jul 11 15:30:35 2000
From: elenabaldi at lineone.net (Elena Baldi)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:30:35 +0100
Subject: Somewhere in Italy
Message-ID: <003c01bfeb3c$332b3ce0$592501d5@ksanders>




---Original Message-----
From: Armando Botto <bolcano at tin.it>
To: dcml <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Date: 08 July 2000 18:30
Subject: Somewhere in Italy


>Here's a piece of info I found on eBay:
>
><< A story written by Mr. Barks with John Lustig, and drawn by Pat Block,
is
>being released in hardback this fall in Italy in English and Italian
>worldwide >>
>
>So, it seems "Somewhere in Nowhere" is going to be published, at last...
>(The above sentence is all I know about the matter. It was "drowned" inside
>a long description of an item for sale on eBay - a Pat Block watercolor).
>
>Ciao,
>Armando
>
>
>
Does anyone know who is going to publish this 'Somewhere in Nowhere'?
and is it going to be in two languages in the same book or is it going to be
in two volumes?
Thanks & ciao Elena>
>





From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Wed Jul 12 17:05:08 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:05:08 -0400
Subject: First Scrooge
Message-ID: <396C8923.3F2A999C@mpinet.net>

Does anyone know the exact comic book issue that "Christmas on Bear
Mountain" appeared in?  I get confused when it comes down to all that
Four Color business.




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Wed Jul 12 17:15:51 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:15:51 +0200
Subject: First Scrooge
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E248366F@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>

John:
> Does anyone know the exact comic book issue that "Christmas on Bear
> Mountain" appeared in? 
"Christmas on Bear Mountain" first appeared in Four Color # 178, December
1947.

Ciao,
Armando



From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Wed Jul 12 17:54:35 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:54:35 -0400
Subject: First Scrooge
References: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E248366F@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>
Message-ID: <396C94BB.1F2D6D44@mpinet.net>

Thanks, would they have titled that one Donald Duck Four Color?

Botto Armando wrote:

> John:
> > Does anyone know the exact comic book issue that "Christmas on Bear
> > Mountain" appeared in?
> "Christmas on Bear Mountain" first appeared in Four Color # 178, December
> 1947.
>
> Ciao,
> Armando

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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Wed Jul 12 19:09:54 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:09:54 +0100
Subject: First Scrooge
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075B4B@l04.research.kpn.com>

> From: John Chadwick [mailto:wolfsong at mpinet.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 4:55 PM

> > "Christmas on Bear Mountain" first appeared in Four Color # 
> > 178, December 1947.

> Thanks, would they have titled that one Donald Duck Four Color?

"Donald Duck". 8-)

--Harry.



From bolcano at tin.it  Wed Jul 12 22:37:06 2000
From: bolcano at tin.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:37:06 +0200
Subject: Treasures, somewhere in Italy...
Message-ID: <004001bfec41$06932840$336dd8d4@ccse0315>

Elena wrote:
>> Does anyone know who is going to publish this 'Somewhere in Nowhere'? and
is it going to be in two languages in the same book or is it going to be in
two volumes?

Rumour has it that "Somewhere in Nowhere" will indeed appear next Fall, in
the third volume of the Disney Italia "Tesori" ("Treasures") series. The
book will contain both the original English version of the story and its
Italian translation, together with a few other Barks stories. It's almost
certain that it will be possible to order the book from abroad, too.
The "Tesori" books are hardbacks, printed on quality paper. The first 2
issues of the series had 128 pages, and cost little less than $15. If you're
curious about their contents, have a look at the Inducks database:
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/
and
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/

Ciao,
Armando





From JALustig at aol.com  Thu Jul 13 08:04:05 2000
From: JALustig at aol.com (JALustig@aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:04:05 EDT
Subject: "Somewhere in Nowhere"
Message-ID: <2b.80ad86a.269eb5d5@aol.com>

To Armando, Rodney, Elena & Everyone Else:

Hi! It's been a long time since I posted anything on this mailing list. In 
regard to the questions and comments about "Somewhere in Nowhere"...well, 
yes, the story is going to be published at long last. Disney Italia will be 
distributing it in a hardback book in early November. (I believe the 
publisher is hoping to have some copies to show around at the Frankfurt Book 
Fair prior to that.) If it's going to be in both English and Italian then my 
guess is that its the same format that was used when Disney Italia published 
Barks' "Horsing Around With History." I don't have a copy of that book, but 
if I remember correctly that book printed each page of "Horsing" in color in 
Italian and then on the opposite page the same part of the story was printed 
in English in black and white.

(If I'm wrong about this format then someone please correct me.)

Sometime later (possibly March of next year), "Somewhere" will be reprinted 
in the "Zio Paperone" magazine with some extra background material.

I really don't know much more about it than that.

It's been over two years since I first learned that Disney Italia had 
purchased "Somewhere." In the past, Disney Italia had asked me not to say 
anything about this to fans. Why? Well, I was told that Disney Italia didn't 
know when it was going to be publishing the story. Fearing that fans would 
overwhelm Disney Italia with questions, the editor wanted to keep things 
quiet.

I agreed not to talk about it as a courtesy to Disney Italia. I have to 
admit, though, that I had no idea it would take this long to be published. 
When questions about the story surface on this mailing list, I e-mailed the 
editor. I curious myself as to what was going on. The editor promised to get 
back to me shortly. Several months passed. Recently a  different person at 
Disney contacted me and I learned that project is going ahead.

This thing has been hush hush for so long that I'm not really sure what I can 
or want to say about it. I'd feel a lot more comfortable talking about this 
if Disney Italia had made a formal announcement about the publication.

I also have very mixed feelings about this story. I know there are a lot of 
rumors about "Somewhere." I'm not going to go into detail here. I've already 
given Disney Italia a great deal of information about the story's creation 
and some of that will appear when the story is printed.

I do, however, want to chip away at a couple of rumors. Carl Barks' 
involvement in the story was somewhat less than was announced by the managers 
of his former studio. At the same time I must point out that rumors that Carl 
wasn't involved in the story at all are equally untrue. The original idea for 
the story came from Carl. During the time that the story was fleshed out more 
fully Carl made a number of suggestions. Later on, he also contributed some 
additional gags.

I think it's probably best if I don't go into detail about any of this until 
after "Somewhere" is published. I think people should be less concerned with 
the politics of the story's creation and more interested in the story itself.

On another subject, I'm really busy right now getting ready for Comic Con 
Internation in San Diego next week. I'm going to be sharing a table in 
Artist's Alley with fellow Disney creator Michael T. Gilbert (space F-4.) I 
may also be at the Comics Buyer's Guide table some of the time. I don't know 
how much I'll be at either table. (There's so much to see and do at that con 
that it'll be hard to sit still.) Anyway, those of you who are going to the 
con, please drop by and say "Hi!"

--John Lustig



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Jul 13 11:34:31 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:34:31 +0100
Subject: San Diego
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075B51@l04.research.kpn.com>

John Lustig wrote:

> On another subject, I'm really busy right now getting ready 
> for Comic Con 
> Internation in San Diego next week. [..] those of you who 
> are going to the con, please drop by and say "Hi!"

I will be there (my first time). Other years there was some kind of a
"mailing list breakfast". Are there any plans for that? (Anyone?)
BTW, any other Europeans going there?

--Harry.



From wunderwurm at gmx.ch  Fri Jul 14 00:14:18 2000
From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch (wunderwurm@gmx.ch)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:14:18 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: Wundermilds Pages - Major Update
References: <200007131000.MAA11697@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <5014.963526458@www29.gmx.net>

Hi all,

Finally, I've done a major update on my internet pages (featuring rare
Gottfredson pieces and comic book giveaway stories), you are kindly invited to
see by yourself:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/index.htm and
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm

Design has been worked over extensively, picture directories were changed,
and quite some new images were added, for anyone interested in classic
Disney stories: For example, for people fond of

- Gottfredson: First 71 strips of the classic "Death Valley" episode (the
unmutilated original one, with 150 dpi scans!); also, the "Suicide" episode
has been re-scanned (150 dpi);

- Murry: Two stories added: One Donald Duck (the Inca Idol), one Brer
Rabbit (BR's Secret) story, both out of scarce Cheerios and Wheaties giveaways;

- Taliaferro (Hi, Favio): No story, but a collection of Wheaties comic
book back cover illustrations;

- other classic Donald Duck artists: A couple of more Cheerios Premium,
Wheaties, and Cheerios 3-D stories have been uploaded (art by Jack Hannah,
Frank McSavage, and Tony Strobl);

- (last, but not least) Barks (perhaps for Daniel): "Santa's Stormy Visit"
of the Firestone Giveaway 1946 is now available on the net (as is the
Mickey Mouse backup story, art by Don Gunn).

Thanks for all help and encouragement, especially to Klaus Harms, who
kindly provided scans to bridge some gaps.

A question to I.N.D.U.C.K.S. people (esp. Harry): The uploaded scans of
mine are planned to remain on the net permanently (as is a growing number of
Disney stories by other site maintainers, e.g. Favio's 1947 Taliaferro
Sundays); is there a possibility to set links to them from I.N.D.U.C.K.S. story
entries? 

That's all Folks (for now, that is!)

WW

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From bkscheel at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 14 12:30:30 2000
From: bkscheel at hotmail.com (B. & K. Scheel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:30:30 GMT
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #198 - 1 msg
Message-ID: <20000714103030.77712.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi WW

Wow - this is very interesting for one who likes Murry like myself!
I especially enjoyed

>>- Murry: Two stories added: One Donald Duck (the Inca Idol)

Will study your pages more later.  Thanks a lot for some interesting stuff.

>http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm

Kind regards
Birte Scheel
Denmark


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From donrosa at iglou.com  Fri Jul 14 16:31:01 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:31:01 -0400
Subject: San Diego travel plans, and elsewhere...
References: <200007141000.MAA13442@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <003a01bfeda0$24f2b7a0$84efffcc@default>

Yes, I'll be in San Diego, as always, and as always never in any certain
spot as my mission at that one convention is as a private collector
cruising for old comic books. In fact, even if there is a "ML Breakfast", I
would not be there as I use my privileges to gain entry to the
dealers-pavilion when it opens to the dealers. The only place I *know* I
can be found is at the annual American Association of Comicbook Collectors
banquet -- this year, especially, since we celebrate the 50th anniversary
of EC Comics, the best comics of all time! There will be nearly all the
living EC writers and artists in attendance (I won't try to list them all),
as well as many special gifts for attendees... and an art auction to help
pay for the whole deal. There will be lots of great stuff in the auction
done by the EC artists, both 45-50 years ago and just recently for the
banquet. And there will be other art from EC-fan "youngster" artists like
me to add to the fund. I contributed four large fake-covers based on the
premise of "What if EC Comics had the Disney license instead of Dell?"...
my covers include WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND SUSPENSTORIES, TALES FROM THE
BIN, WEIRD INVENTIONS and WEB-FOOTED TALES. The EC fans among you will be
able to guess what each is a combination/parody of, and if you're not EC
fans it wouldn't be funny to you anyway, so no need to explain more. I
imagine images of these covers will pop up somewhere on the Internet
afterwards, so you'll see them eventually.
Aside from SD, I guess that's my queue to announce where else I will be
found
for the foreseeable future. I often forget that some people want to know
that, and when I nearly failed to mention my trip to the Donald Duck Museum
in Pennsylvania, I nearly muffed a chance to see some very special ML
members who then drove many miles to meet me. So...

On August 16-20 I will be at the VI?ETAS DESDE O ATL?NTICO Comic Con, whose
3rd edition will be held in the city of A Coru?a. This is on the NW coast
of Spain.

On September 7-10 I'll be back in Helsinki making another bookstore tour --
the subject of this visit will be their year-2001 AKU ANKKA 50th
Anniversary Calendar which will feature 12 of my pin-ups that have appeared
in PICSOU, perhaps in a slightly different version of each, along with
texts I've written for each one. (By the way, yesterday I drew a special
cover for AKU ANKKA's use of my "The Three Caballeros Ride Again" in issue
#40-42/2000, same weeks as in the Egmont editions... and today I'm writing
them a text about the "making of" the story.)

Okay, then in October I go on another German tour, appearing at the book
sections of their biggest (so I hear) department store chain known as (if I
spell it right) Karstadt. The tour will be Oct. 16-24, perhaps longer. The
preliminary list of appearances is as follows:
16th - Essen or Darmstadt
17th - Giessen
18th - Berlin (2 stores)
19th - Berlin (1 more store! Big city!)
20th - Hamburg (2 stores)
21st - Hamburg (1 more store! Lotsa Hamburgers!)
22nd - Frankfurt (at a store and at the world's biggest book fair that will
be taking place that weekend! Always wanted to see that sucker! (Even
though I won't be able to read a word in the hall!)
23rd - Darmstadt or Essen (wherever I wasn't on the 16th)
24th - Stuttgart
25th - maybe some comic stores or such in the next few days, depending on
what we work out.

In November I'll be at the Mid-Ohio Con In Columbus on the 24-26th.

Other than that, my schedule tells me I'll be at the dentist on September
15 (no autographs, please... I might be numb) and in December I hope to be
sleeping in a tent on a mountain somewhere in New Mexico or old Mexico
(free sketches if you can find me -- you bring the pencil and paper and
extra water).

And there you have it -- and more of it than you wanted.





From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Jul 13 20:15:22 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:15:22 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #195 - 4 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200007111000.MAA01207@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200007111000.MAA01207@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04310100b5910b83a467@[207.218.83.92]>

Rodney Bowcock wrote:

>I find it very interesting to learn that Somewhere In Nowhere is being
>released in English by Disney Italy.  Hopefully, sales of the English
>version will be high enough for them to realize that people here in the
>US are willing to pay the price for English copies of Disney comics.  I
>know I would certainly be willing to pay for English versions of Zio
>Paperone.

I don't know if Egmont or Disney Italy or anyone is actually 
prohibited in any licensing terms from doing any kind of regular 
English-language Disney comics publication as such, but they do have 
to consider what kind of market they'd have for them since none of 
them have licenses granting them access to retail distribution of 
English-language Disney comics in the USA and Canada (and perhaps 
Australia and New Zealand as well). That license is still under 
negotiation between Diamond and Disney, and if any other publisher 
made what even appeared to be an attempt to enter those markets, 
there would be royal hell to pay.

English-language readers deserve English-language Disney comics. But 
as wonderful as it might be for some publisher to bite the bullet and 
put out English-language comics without licensed access to the major 
retail English-language markets, few publishers can afford to be that 
wonderful.



From timoro at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 15 15:29:41 2000
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:29:41 EEST
Subject: 
Message-ID: <20000715122941.77488.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi!


>>>Rosa:
>I contributed four large fake-covers based on the
>premise of "What if EC Comics had the Disney license instead of Dell?"...
>my covers include WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND SUSPENSTORIES, TALES FROM THE
>BIN, WEIRD INVENTIONS and WEB-FOOTED TALES. I
>imagine images of these covers will pop up somewhere on the Internet
>afterwards, so you'll see them eventually.

I certainly hope so! They sounded very interesting and funny. (Needless to 
say that I like EC comics almost as much as Ducks..)

>On September 7-10 I'll be back in Helsinki making another bookstore tour --
>the subject of this visit will be their year-2001 AKU ANKKA 50th
>Anniversary Calendar which will feature 12 of my pin-ups that have appeared
>in PICSOU,

Sounds very good also! Although that might have been so much better if done 
on August 19-20th, as we have big comics festivals in Helsinki, and one of 
guests being great Romano Scarpa.

Timo Ronkainen

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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Mon Jul 17 12:27:21 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:27:21 +0100
Subject: Wundermilds Pages - Major Update
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075B72@l04.research.kpn.com>

WW ("wunderwurm" - I forgot his real name and he didn't mention it):

> Finally, I've done a major update on my internet pages (featuring rare
> Gottfredson pieces and comic book giveaway stories), you are 
> kindly invited to see by yourself:
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/index.htm and
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm

Wonderful!

> - (last, but not least) Barks (perhaps for Daniel)

8-)
As if Dani?l were the only Barks fan on this list!

> A question to I.N.D.U.C.K.S. people (esp. Harry): The 
> uploaded scans of
> mine are planned to remain on the net permanently (as is a 
> growing number of
> Disney stories by other site maintainers, e.g. Favio's 1947 Taliaferro
> Sundays); is there a possibility to set links to them from 
> I.N.D.U.C.K.S. story entries? 

There are 2 problems here:

1. Technical: the website programming is Per Starb?ck's stuff (or Fran?ois
Willot's, if you use the French search engine). We need to add information
to the database, and do some programming, to make it work.

2. The Inducks is copyrighted by ourselves, it's not Disney's property. When
we make links to copies of copyrighted Disney material, we might suggest
that we (Inducks) are violating copyrights...

--Harry.
http://www.inducks.net



From starback at ling.uu.se  Mon Jul 17 12:18:43 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 17 Jul 2000 12:18:43 +0200
Subject: Web news
In-Reply-To: Per Starback's message of "18 Jun 2000 20:47:56 +0200"
References: <qzya4cmnx5.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se> <qz66r6zuzn.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <qzzonh9i0s.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>

I broke the story search on characters when the version of the Inducks
appeared a couple of weeks ago.  Now it works again, so it's possible
again to search for stories with Dim-Witty (82 items found) or
Cornelius Coot (13 items found).

Pages on individual issues now contain links to the previous and the
next issue.
-- 
Per Starback <starback at ling.uu.se> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
 "Life is but a gamble!  Let flipism chart your ramble!"



From favio31 at caramail.com  Mon Jul 17 16:35:55 2000
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:35:55 GMT+1
Subject: Disney comics online
Message-ID: <963834950013320@caramail.com>

Hi!

Big thanks to WW for the new version of his site. I have 
made a page with a list of useful links to Disney comics 
websites (many coming from my own personal bookmarks). If 
you want to take a look:

http://www.mailotron.forez.com/sites/livia/index.php3

Take care,

  Favio

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From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Jul 17 16:52:49 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:52:49 +0200
Subject: Disney comics online
References: <963834950013320@caramail.com>
Message-ID: <39731DC1.BC389E37@libero.it>

Thierry Fernand wrote:

> Big thanks to WW for the new version of his site. 

Yeah! Really, WW that's what I call a great job! Thanks!

> I have made a page with a list of useful links to Disney 
> comics websites (many coming from my own personal bookmarks). 

...and that's what I call an useful job! 

  - Paolo

-- 
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"A voi, questo papagno!"
(Rockerduck e Zio Paperone in I TL  537-A)



From bhc at primenet.com  Tue Jul 18 18:47:58 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:47:58 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #199 - 3 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200007151000.MAA04046@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200007151000.MAA04046@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04320400b59a2c61e455@[207.218.83.173]>

I wrote:

>English-language readers deserve English-language Disney comics. But
>as wonderful as it might be for some publisher to bite the bullet and
>put out English-language comics without licensed access to the major
>retail English-language markets, few publishers can afford to be that
>wonderful.


Updating what I wrote:
English-language Disney comics are, I understand, published in India 
and Singapore. India makes sense, as English is a very common 
language there, but English-reading fans of Don Rosa would be out of 
luck; they only publish a digest-size magazine, so they gravitate 
toward digest-designed material. This might also be true of 
Singapore, but I don't have any info on that.

So, there would not seem to be specific prohibitions on publishing in 
the English language among Disney's worldwide publishing licensees, 
only geopolitical market restrictions on retail distribution. Just 
how such restrictions are established and regulated I won't even dare 
to guess, particularly as consistency is not a hallmark of these 
activities on an international or even national scale.
-- 
Gary

****************************
"Good night, and may God Bless...good night." - Red Skelton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From halvor.sandven at dnb.no  Wed Jul 19 14:11:36 2000
From: halvor.sandven at dnb.no (Sandven, Halvor)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:11:36 +0200
Subject: Summer-Reading
Message-ID: <20000719121404Z49314-16806+46@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hello!

I just wanted to tell that the last weeks issues of the Norwegian
(Scandinavian) weekly 'Donald Duck' have been really enjoyable. This because
of lots of extra pages with quality stuff, making the weekly 96 pages. The
extra pages are called 'summer-fun', and that's exactly what they are.

Two weeks ago Don Rosa's story 'Treasure Under Glass' (D 90227) was
reprinted. It was first time printet in a monthly Mickey Mouse comic, and it
was about time readers of the weekly could enjoy this marvelous story.
Last week Barks' magnificent story 'Ancient Persia' (W OS 275) was printed
in the weekly for the first time. This is surely Barks at his very best.
This week they printet an old Scarpa-story for the first time in Norway.
This was 'Topolino e il campionissimo' (I TL 154), where Goofy becomes very
strong, and starts a boxing-career. A true masterpiece by one of the very
best Disney-artists.
Alas, the summer-reading is at an end. The next issue will be regular-sized.

---Halvor






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From saturn_78 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 19 18:15:44 2000
From: saturn_78 at yahoo.com (Danny Coenen)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #203
Message-ID: <20000719161544.17018.qmail@web2005.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, guys, I am back after all these years :)

Anyhow, wouldn't it be possible for Don to make the
English dialog of his stories available? This way, one
could subscribe to a European comic book that
publishes his work, and still enjoy the original
dialog.


> I wrote:
> 
> >English-language readers deserve English-language
> Disney comics. But
> >as wonderful as it might be for some publisher to
> bite the bullet and
> >put out English-language comics without licensed
> access to the major
> >retail English-language markets, few publishers can
> afford to be that
> >wonderful.
> 
> 
> Updating what I wrote:
> English-language Disney comics are, I understand,
> published in India 
> and Singapore. India makes sense, as English is a
> very common 
> language there, but English-reading fans of Don Rosa
> would be out of 
> luck; they only publish a digest-size magazine, so
> they gravitate 
> toward digest-designed material. This might also be
> true of 
> Singapore, but I don't have any info on that.
> 
> So, there would not seem to be specific prohibitions
> on publishing in 
> the English language among Disney's worldwide
> publishing licensees, 
> only geopolitical market restrictions on retail
> distribution. Just 
> how such restrictions are established and regulated
> I won't even dare 
> to guess, particularly as consistency is not a
> hallmark of these 
> activities on an international or even national
> scale.
> -- 
> Gary
> 
> ****************************
> "Good night, and may God Bless...good night." - Red
> Skelton
>
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> http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> 


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From frspreaf at tin.it  Wed Jul 19 19:44:21 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:44:21 +0200
Subject: Earn $15,000 just for sending email!  
References: <964027252022945@caramail.com>
Message-ID: <01f201bff1a8$fcd0b800$8a82abd4@darthlaz>

From: "Antonio Svevi" <robert663 at caramail.com>

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I've gone there and I've reported your spam.

Good afternoon.

--
Sprea




From thomas at duckburg.dk  Thu Jul 20 02:17:56 2000
From: thomas at duckburg.dk (Thomas Lauritsen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:17:56 +0200
Subject: Hidden Mickey Mouse?
Message-ID: <001601bff1df$f78801f0$0100a8c0@thomas2000>

DON:

In chapter five of The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck (The New Laird of
Castle McDuck) on page 13, 1st panel there is a little black mouse on the
floor. I wondered if this is one of your hidden Mickeys or if it is just a
plain castle mouse. I'm in doubt, especially because the body doesn't look
very much like Mickeys, but the head does.

Best wishes,
Thomas Lauritsen

--
thomas at duckburg.dk www.duckburg.dk
PGP key at www.duckburg.dk/tl/tlpgpkey.asc





From Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de  Thu Jul 20 10:01:41 2000
From: Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de (Jan Follak)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:01:41 +0200
Subject: Indian comic-book-size
In-Reply-To: <200007191000.MAA27132@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000720100141.007c6580@popserver.uni-konstanz.de>

Gary Leach: 

>English-language Disney comics are, I understand, published in India 
>and Singapore. India makes sense, as English is a very common 
>language there, but English-reading fans of Don Rosa would be out of 
>luck; they only publish a digest-size magazine, so they gravitate 
>toward digest-designed material. 

The Indian comic I obtained with the help of an Indian friend is not in
digest-size, but an oversized comic-book (like the long-cancelled English
"Mickey and Friends"). It features the same Egmont-stuff like the German
"Micky Maus", and even a story by Marco Rota. But maybe the size has
changed in the meantime, the one and only issue I have is from 1996. 




From sonia_dyer at am.exch.hp.com  Thu Jul 20 16:59:32 2000
From: sonia_dyer at am.exch.hp.com (DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1))
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:59:32 -0600
Subject: Antonio Svevi's email
Message-ID: <B30C9DBF55CDD3119CA30090277A764B81B728@xcup03.cup.hp.com>

> Message: 3
> From: Antonio Svevi <robert663 at caramail.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Earn $15,000 just for sending email!  

Antonio, it is not appropriate to post this kind of message to our mailing
list.  You only suceeded in giving yourself and your web site some very
negative publicity.

Francesco, thanks for lodging the spam complaint.

	Sonia



From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Thu Jul 20 22:22:25 2000
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:22:25 +0200
Subject: Summer-Reading
References: <20000719121404Z49314-16806+46@merganser.its.uu.se>
Message-ID: <39775F81.21EDD286@c2i.net>

"Sandven, Halvor" wrote:
> Last week Barks' magnificent story 'Ancient Persia' (W OS 275) was printed
> in the weekly for the first time. This is surely Barks at his very best.

You forgot to mention that Clothes Make the Duck (US 43) was reprinted
for the first time in Norway since 1961!

----------------------------------------------------
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with the possible exception of bad news, 
which obeys its own special laws."





From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Jul 20 20:49:53 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:49:53 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #204 - 6 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200007201000.MAA26262@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200007201000.MAA26262@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04320403b59cf0d7733a@[207.218.83.111]>

Jan:

>The Indian comic I obtained with the help of an Indian friend is not in
>digest-size, but an oversized comic-book (like the long-cancelled English
>"Mickey and Friends"). It features the same Egmont-stuff like the German
>"Micky Maus", and even a story by Marco Rota. But maybe the size has
>changed in the meantime, the one and only issue I have is from 1996.

I've seen no Disney comics from India, of any vintage, so you're one 
up on me there. I've quickly come to the conclusion that my 
information, while maybe not inaccurate, is nevertheless limited, so 
this seems to be a subject ripe for exploration. And if leads to a 
couple of legit options for English readers of Disney comics, hoo-hah!
-- 
Gary

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From sko at acoustics.dk  Wed Jul 19 14:50:42 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:50:42 +0200
Subject: Summer-Reading
In-Reply-To: <20000719121404Z49314-16806+46@merganser.its.uu.se>
References: <20000719121404Z49314-16806+46@merganser.its.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00071914592200.04738@localhost.localdomain>

HALVOR:

> This was 'Topolino e il campionissimo' (I TL 154), where Goofy becomes very
> strong, and starts a boxing-career. A true masterpiece by one of the very
> best Disney-artists.

It most certainly is. I especially love the panel where Goofy knocks out
the master for the first time with a little "Bonk!" The expressions on
the two characters' faces are beautifully controlled (almost
understated) by Scarpa. Brilliant! :-)

Søren




From p.castagno at libero.it  Sat Jul 22 00:09:08 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:09:08 +0200
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <3978CA04.1E840103@libero.it>

Hi,

I was reading the last issue of Zio Paperone, and as at the same
it was a good issue... but this time something very bad hooked my
attention: at page 67 there is a sort  of fan drawing from Walt
Simonson about comics collectors.. the gag is OK (it is about
Scrooge spending all his money to buy himself Barksian comic
books) but it is what Donald says to his nephews that is of a
very bad taste: 

Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
artist of all times, not "was"!!!!! 

It really struck me badly. :-(

   - Paolo

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From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jul 22 00:51:45 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:51:45 +0200
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
References: <3978CA04.1E840103@libero.it>
Message-ID: <040901bff366$99b5b760$eb84abd4@darthlaz>

From: "Paolo Castagno" <p.castagno at libero.it>

> Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
> HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
> was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
> artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
> It really struck me badly. :-(

Me too!
At first I thought it could be bad taste in the translation, but I rushed to
check the original (as I think you did too) and saw that that "was" was
there too :-(

--
Sprea




From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 22 13:34:03 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:34:03 CEST
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <F150WEHhGDyjVA79cZZ000015bd@hotmail.com>

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From p.castagno at libero.it  Sat Jul 22 13:30:10 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:30:10 +0200
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
References: <3978CA04.1E840103@libero.it> <040901bff366$99b5b760$eb84abd4@darthlaz>
Message-ID: <397985C2.53C7EED2@libero.it>

Francesco Spreafico wrote:

> > Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
> > HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... 

> Me too!
> At first I thought it could be bad taste in the translation, but I rushed to
> check the original (as I think you did too) and saw that that "was" was
> there too :-(

Er... no... where did you checked? :-?
You know: I can *never* remember an URL... that's why my one is
in the signature! ;-)

  - Paolo

-- 
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all'inferno se occorrera'!"
(Capitano Mac Hab in I TL  222-A)





From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jul 22 16:12:21 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:12:21 +0200
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
References: <3978CA04.1E840103@libero.it> <040901bff366$99b5b760$eb84abd4@darthlaz> <397985C2.53C7EED2@libero.it>
Message-ID: <001e01bff3fa$23de2d80$7b82abd4@darthlaz>

From: "Paolo Castagno" <p.castagno at libero.it>

> Er... no... where did you checked? :-?
> You know: I can *never* remember an URL... that's why my one is
> in the signature! ;-)

No URL :-) I just happen to have two Gladstone's "Uncle Scrooge Adventures"
(Thanks to Archontis!) and that gag is on one of those :-)

And the nephew says: "Who WAS Carl Barks, unca Donald?" (with the "WAS" in
bold).

--
Sprea




From frspreaf at tin.it  Sat Jul 22 16:12:57 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:12:57 +0200
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
References: <F150WEHhGDyjVA79cZZ000015bd@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01bff3fa$28073dc0$7b82abd4@darthlaz>

From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>

> In the original too? Don't the creators know that Barks is still alive? 

And think that the gag was originally written in 1974! Really odd.

--
Sprea




From cnotw at zen.it  Sat Jul 22 02:23:46 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:23:46 +0100
Subject: R: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <20000722235149Z473270-18946+81@merganser.its.uu.se>

Ciao, all!

Paolo Castagno wrote:
> 
>> Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
>> HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>> was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>> artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>>
>> It really struck me badly. :-(


And Francesco:

> Me too!
> At first I thought it could be bad taste in the translation, but I rushed to
> check the original (as I think you did too) and saw that that "was" was
> there too :-(

Well, I got the same bad feeling. But we can say two things.
One: the translation is correct.
Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not to
write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
Barks' name was not so popular. Also in Italy, I well remember how much
money fans were paying old T or AR comics, if a Barks story was printed in
them. Twice or more the "normal" prices (without Barks' stories).

Bye!

Luca 



From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Sun Jul 23 03:51:03 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:51:03 -0300
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <000601bff448$a04592c0$59e329c8@default>

Luca Boschi wrote:

>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
to
>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>Barks' name was not so popular.

That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
FABIO.






From cnotw at zen.it  Sun Jul 23 15:46:31 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:46:31 +0100
Subject: R: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <20000723152008Z303287-10560+210@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, all!

> Luca Boschi wrote:
> 
>>Two: the gag was written in a period in which Carl Barks was supposed not
> to
>>write or draw Duck stories anymore, for this reason HDL talks about him as
>>if he were far in the time like an Andersen, or a Perrault... The reality
>>and the perspective that now we know is very different from the 70es, when
>>Barks' name was not so popular.
>
> That's exactly I did think about this gag based in the last two messages. I
> imagine that the artist was in the cinic and bitter mood of somebody seeing
> the oblivion about a great creator like Barks. The error, I think, is from
> Zio Paperone for publish something out of his context.
> FABIO.
>

Maybe you're right. For this reason, I think it should be interesting if
some of you, if you want, write something about this matter, also for
explaining the "different moods". Surely, Lidia shall  publish your replies
in the letter colums of ZP.

Ciao!
Luca



From eega at supereva.it  Mon Jul 24 10:48:18 2000
From: eega at supereva.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:48:18 +0200
Subject: Botto & Beta proudly present... (somewhat OT)
Message-ID: <20000724084840Z14511-51454+83@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hello good folks,

It wasn't very long ago, when friend Armando Botto mentioned he
was collecting cover images around the net, and dropped a coupla
interesting addresses... I gave that a try, and started piling
up cover images myself... we also exchanged some, and Armando
commented it was like trading cards... and the idea of collecting
them in an album immediately struck me...

That's how "Disney Covers Extravaganza" was born, and quite a few
people appreciated it, and contributed to it, too, so the site is
currently hosting over a thousand Disney cover images, plus links
to other covers sites, and it's still growing.

But there are more covers in heaven and earth, Horace, than all our
Disney philosophers can dream of... or something like that... :-)

So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be appreciated
(hopefully) as

FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween)  at

http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html


And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
"Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)


Cheers

Eta Beta



From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Jul 24 21:15:19 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:15:19 +0200
Subject: Botto & Beta proudly present... (somewhat OT)
References: <20000724084840Z14511-51454+83@merganser.its.uu.se>
Message-ID: <397C95C7.D446CA59@libero.it>

Eta Beta wrote:
 
> So, a "side effect" of collecting covers can now be 
> appreciated (hopefully) as
> 
> FROM COVER TO COVER (with nothing inbetween)  at
> 
> http://eega.supereva.it/fromto.html

A really great site, expecially for the Popeye section... and
while I'm at this: I noticed that many Disney comics lovers also
like a lot Segar's Popeye... like me. 

Just curious: who else of you is interested in Popeye stuff (I
mean the *real* Popeye, the one from Segar)?

> And, just to get back a bit on-topic, there's good news for my
> Disney sites, too... it should be a matter of a few weeks more for
> "Last Balaboo" to get its long due update... keep the faith :-)

Yep!!!!

  - Paolo

-- 
http://members.xoom.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

"Komme komme farlanda mozambico papero zuruch alifai..."
(uno stregone in  I TL  297-A)




From Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de  Mon Jul 24 21:50:55 2000
From: Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de (Jan Follak)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:50:55 +0200
Subject: Indian Disney Comics again
In-Reply-To: <200007221000.MAA02411@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000724215055.007a5550@popserver.uni-konstanz.de>

Gary:

>I've seen no Disney comics from India, of any vintage, (...), so 
>this seems to be a subject ripe for exploration. 

Check 
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/india.html
as a starting point. There you'll find scans of the issue I have. 




From bhc at primenet.com  Tue Jul 25 22:03:01 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:03:01 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #206 - 4 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200007221000.MAA02404@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200007221000.MAA02404@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04320401b5a39e51d6c5@[207.218.17.241]>

Paolo wrote:

>Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>It really struck me badly. :-(

We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by 
default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this 
is, but rarely is anything really meant by it. Look at it this way: 
It would be impossible to convey information on someone who isn't 
somewhere within one's present sensory range without that information 
being a recollection of some kind. In truth, HDL could only properly 
phrase their question in the past tense, since they knew they would 
only get their Unca Donald's recollections - his past knowledge - in 
reply.



From sko at acoustics.dk  Wed Jul 26 13:58:11 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:58:11 +0200
Subject: The fourth nephew (again and again)
Message-ID: <00072614014800.01215@localhost.localdomain>

Sorry folks.

Forget about my previous mail. The panel is from D 95010 but the
article had a typo; it should have been AA84-07 instead of AA87-07,
that contains D  7202 with a HDL4 that has been known for a long time.

Søren




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sat Jul 22 20:17:43 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:17:43 -0300
Subject: Disappointment because of ZP
Message-ID: <002801bff409$2320d320$121ebfc8@v2h5i1>

There are any Scan on the Net with this image? It is so disrespectible!

Fernando Ventura!

"...at page 67 there is a sort  of fan drawing from Walt
Simonson about comics collectors.. the gag is OK (it is about
Scrooge spending all his money to buy himself Barksian comic
books) but it is what Donald says to his nephews that is of a
very bad taste: 

Donald and nephews are going to US money bin, and while walking
HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
was is also in bold fonts! "





From sko at acoustics.dk  Wed Jul 26 12:59:42 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:59:42 +0200
Subject: The fourth nephew (again)
Message-ID: <00072613170300.00870@localhost.localdomain>

Hi folks,

I just found a thirteen(?) years old article today, written in Danish
but with a panel clearly showing yet another HDL4:

http://raptus.dk/tmp/hdl4vr.jpg

The panel is probably drawn by Vicar, but that's about all we know. The
article states the issue Anders And & Co. no. 7, 1987 in which the
panel should be in, but this is unfortunately not correct. It also says
that a *reader* found the mistake and contacted the publishers, so I
reckon it must have been printed at some point.

For what it's worth, HDL4 says: "I found this one in the sofa! Laughing
gas! And it's all empty!"

I assume that the story is coded in the range D 7000 to D 9000, but
Vicar drew some 200 stories in that period, so it's a bit hopeless.

Does anyone here remember this story? The HDL4 appearance is BTW not
registered in Inducks.

Søren




From fluks4 at stp.ling.uu.se  Tue Jul 25 04:25:21 2000
From: fluks4 at stp.ling.uu.se (fluks4@stp.ling.uu.se)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:25:21 +0200
Subject: [OT] Greetings from California
Message-ID: <7736AF369D9.AAA3A75@po03.wxs.nl>

This is Harry writing from California, where I just had a
wonderful time at the San Diego comic convention. I'll give a
detailed report later, but let me thank everyone whom I met -
you have all been very kind. Thanks in particular to Michael
Naiman (I think he has been renamed Michael Noman last saturday
8-). And to Dave Rawson for letting me stay at his home at this
very moment.

"See" you all later!

--Harry.






From j.heino at pp2.inet.fi  Wed Jul 26 17:12:36 2000
From: j.heino at pp2.inet.fi (Janne Heino)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:12:36 +0300
Subject: Rosa comics in Finland !!
References: <200007251000.MAA31552@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000401bff74d$f806c940$6ffad5d4@default>

Hi!

So the three caballeros rides again story will be published here at Finland with the special cover.  So I'm asking now: anybody who wants to get a copy of it should mail me at least before the week #39 or if possible sooner! let me know which issues would you want (the story is in 3 parts, #40-42, the cover will be propably in the first one) so i can buy the needed amount of copies when they're at the shops. 

Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi  




From ericchun at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 27 01:02:02 2000
From: ericchun at hotmail.com (Eric Chun)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:02:02 GMT
Subject: Fwd: Dreidreizehn: News
Message-ID: <F288KABHsbNTu04VwnD00002e21@hotmail.com>

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To: ericchun at hotmail.com
Subject: Dreidreizehn: News
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:25:13 +0200 (CEST)

We just received a message from Carl Barks, concerning his state of health, 
which is very, very bad. This document will be online on our homepage on 
July 27, 11a.m. (MEZ).
www.dreidreizehn.de

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From trygve at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jul 27 02:51:08 2000
From: trygve at tc.umn.edu (Tryg Helseth)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:51:08 -0500
Subject: Past tense in passing
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726195058.00b80660@trygve.email.umn.edu>

At 12:00 PM 7/26/00 +0200, bhc at primenet.com wrote:

>Paolo wrote:
>
>>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by 
>default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this 

BHC:

I agree.  It reminds me of how the old Lone Ranger episodes ended where after he rode off  someone would ask, "Who WAS that masked man?"  He is still alive and presumably masked, but is no longer present on the scene.    

Tryg




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Thu Jul 27 03:34:57 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:34:57 -0300
Subject: Past tense in passing
Message-ID: <001001bff77f$452c4660$58e329c8@default>

I'm feel you both are wright... So, c'mon, best if we finish this topic just
now. The sketch WAS a tribute not an offense...

Fabio
*****************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar

>>We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
>>default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this
>
>BHC:
>
>I agree.  It reminds me of how the old Lone Ranger episodes ended where
after he rode off  someone would ask, "Who WAS that masked man?"  He is
still alive and presumably masked, but is no longer present on the scene.
>
>Tryg
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml




From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Jul 27 18:47:13 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:47:13 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #211 - 8 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200007271000.MAA13542@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200007271000.MAA13542@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04320406b5a610c21ded@[207.218.83.78]>

FABIO:

>I'm feel you both are wright... So, c'mon, best if we finish this topic just
>now. The sketch WAS a tribute not an offense...

Paolo took decided umbrage at one aspect of this tribute and shared 
that with us. A couple of us thought we'd in turn offer some 
clarification to Paolo and anyone else who felt as he did. Now, 
personally, I think Paolo overreacted, but I can understand why he 
did. On the other hand, you're reacting very strongly to the very 
short discussion on the matter, and I have no idea why.

Or maybe I do. At this moment, Disney comics fandom, and comics 
fandom in general, is facing a dark hour. It is plain that we are 
soon to say adieu to one of the true greats, if not the greatest of 
the greats: Carl Barks. From what I have been told, he understands 
his situation perfectly well, and has no regrets worth speaking of. 
But he has been one of the most enduring living icons of the comics 
business, and those of us who have cherished him as well as his work 
will have some...well, adjusting to do, to say the least.

Boy, I just realized I have tons more I could say, but I'll stop now.
-- 
Gary

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From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Thu Jul 27 22:20:26 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:20:26 -0300
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #211 - 8 msgs
Message-ID: <000201bff808$e01a25a0$4be329c8@default>

>FABIO:
>
>>I'm feel you both are wright... So, c'mon, best if we finish this topic
just
>>now. The sketch WAS a tribute not an offense...
GARY:
>personally, I think Paolo overreacted, but I can understand why he
>did. On the other hand, you're reacting very strongly to the very
>short discussion on the matter, and I have no idea why.

Please, excuse me if I sound angry or something. I am really sad about the
Barks health, I admire him more and more every day. On the other hand I see
no fair judge an artist who did try make his tribute to Barks years ago, by
the current  events.

I only try to say "hey, take it easy, sure was an error". But you right, did
sound very bad. Sorry!

Best,
Fabio
***************************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar




From favio31 at caramail.com  Fri Jul 28 18:35:49 2000
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:35:49 +0100 (WET DST)
Subject: Disney Comics On Line - version 2
Message-ID: <964801797018495@caramail.com>

Hi everybody,

An improved version of my "Disney Comics Online" is at the 
following URL:
http://members.forez.com/livia

******************
News:
- Disney Comics fans can now suggest their URLs at
http://members.forez.com/livia/addsite.php3
With this form, two URLS have been added:
The original "Darkest Africa", French version, at 
http://webplaza.pt.lu/public/geohelm/myweb/moc.htm and The 
"History of Computers" at 
http://www.terravista.pt/MeiaPraia/1371/disney/disney.htm

I also have added a link to the Brazilian story "A Heroine is 
Born" (http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/), in 
English.

***********
Request:
Arthur Faria Jr. translated many other (great) Brazilian 
stories. Are these stories available somewhere on the web? 
I'd of course love to add links to them. If this is not the 
case but if someone saved them and can send them to me, 
please contact me.

************
Will be added soon:
The genre of the stories (adventure, short stories, gags), 
the number of pages, the characters, and different sections 
(Barks, Rosa, Mice, Gottfredson, Italian, Brazilian etc.) to 
help you navigate through them. (Information will be taken 
from the Inducks database).

******** Foreword *******
I hope this page will help you find the best Disney comics 
material on the web, and would like to thank everyone once 
again for their help. The number of visits (600 in one week) 
prooves that the page is helpful to Disney comics 
enthusiasts!

 Favio

______________________________________________________
Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com


From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Fri Jul 28 19:55:10 2000
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:55:10 +0200
Subject: Disney Comics On Line - version 2
References: <964801797018495@caramail.com>
Message-ID: <3981C8FE.105C4DD1@c2i.net>

Thierry Fernand wrote:
> An improved version of my "Disney Comics Online" is at the
> following URL:
> http://members.forez.com/livia

Well, not everything is an improvement:

Al Taliaferro's Classic Donald Duk Comics


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From lordwormm at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 30 08:54:35 2000
From: lordwormm at hotmail.com (Alex Bowman)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:54:35 PDT
Subject: Please respond!  
Message-ID: <20000730065435.95697.qmail@hotmail.com>

I am a cartoon lover and have been for as long as I can remember.  I have a 
question for anyone who might be able to answer.

My favorite comics (Disney's Stories & Comics) are the ones in which 
unlikely characters are introduced to each other and work together.

I.e. I have three seperate comics featuring stories with:
A) Thumper, Jiminy Crickett & The Seven Dwarves
B) Jiminy Crickett, Timothy Mouse & Dumbo
c) Thumper, The Seven Dwarves & The Wicked Witch

Does anyone know the issue names and numbers in which there are other 
similar story lines.

I would love to see most interesting stories concocted to bring otehr 
characters together.

Goofy & Merlin                     Rabbit, Thumper & The MArch HAre
Maleficent & The Fairy Godmother   Little John , Baloo & Pooh Bear
Cheshire Cat & Thomas O'Malley     Mr. Smee & Brave Little Toaster
Willie the Operatic Whale & Monstro    Jessica Rabbit & King Triton
Eeyore & Horace                      Daisy Duck & Gepetto

Wouldn't these be fascinating.  Replies are welcome.  Help is requested.

Thanks for listening.

Alex
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From tryg at statease.com  Thu Jul 27 02:47:23 2000
From: tryg at statease.com (Tryg Helseth)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:47:23 -0500
Subject: Past tense in passing
In-Reply-To: <200007261000.MAA14559@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726193438.00b80d10@trygve.email.umn.edu>

At 12:00 PM 7/26/00 +0200, bhc at primenet.com wrote:

>Paolo wrote:
>
>>HDL ask Donald "Unca Donald, who *WAS* Carl Barks?"... and the
>>was is also in bold fonts! Carl **IS** the greatest comic book
>>artist of all times, not "was"!!!!!
>
>We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by 
>default when asking questions of that nature. I'm not sure why this 

BHC:

I agree.  It reminds me of how the old Lone Ranger episodes ended where after he rode off  someone would ask, "Who WAS that masked man?"  He is still alive and presumably masked, but is no longer present on the scene.    

Tryg





From sko at acoustics.dk  Fri Jul 28 15:25:31 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:25:31 +0200
Subject: Ole, SC redrawn
Message-ID: <00072818170800.03393@localhost.localdomain>

OLE:

AA68-45g ZX 64-10-27    1       BBe MGo MGo SC   [desc-da:privat
kattejagt] [/date wrong? not a sunday]

is

D  1027        1  A                SC  Wow, A Cat! [xapp:SC] [xref:ZX
64-00-00] [code:KF1027] [desc:don't hunt my cat friend] [/EGM NB! 2
stories]

Note the interesting printed code KF1027. In fact we have (from your
index)

AA69-05f ZX ??-10-30    1           MGo     SC  En slem forskrækkelse
[code:KF1030]

AA69-19j ZX 65          1           MGo     SC  Det gælder om at få
ret! [code:KF 1050]

AA69-23d ZX 66          1           MGo     SC  Den fuldendte vært
[code:KF 1055]

You know, I'd just bet those are ancient D-codes as well, although they
don't exist in David's list. Yup! No doubt, they are all traced with a
shaky hand--look at the eyes of some of the dogs.

I feel a bit like Nicolas-Louis de la Caille who just couldn't stop
creating new star constellation on the southern hemisphere--nomatter
how insignificant those constellations turned out to be (some of them
are hardly visible to the naked eye)

In other words: Let the three stories above be D  1030, 1050 and 1055
accordingly :-)

Another example, take a look at

AA68-50c ZX 64-01-05    1       BBe CFu MGo SC  R:Vinterklæder [xapp:SC]

which perfectly matches D  1028 *and* in fact has the printed code
"1-3" meaning that it is ZX 64-01-03 instead. Beautiful, isn't it? :-)

and

AA69-52d ZX             1           MGo     SC  Bare for sjov [code:D
1053] [/?why a Danish code, when it's a regular MGo?]

:-) Take a look again, e.g. SC on panel 2, see? This *is* D  1053,
another new code for the D-story index.

---

AA69-09e ZX             1           MGo     SC  En rigtig gnavpot

is

D  1026        1  A                SC  A Sorehead [xapp:SC] [xref:ZX
64-00-00] [desc:cats invading SC's garden] [/EGM NB! 2 stories]

---

AA69-21d ZX 65          1           MGo     SC   [/? missing pages in
my copy]

The title is "Lidt for sjovt!" and it has a printed code KF1056, which
means it should be D  1056 (new!)

---

AA69-51g ZX 64          1           MGo     SC  Selvgjort er velgjort

also has a printed code KF1052, so it'll be D  1052 (new!) from now on.

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AA70-04e YD 63-03-25    0h          AT      DD  Fiks på fingrene
[xapp:DD] [changes:redrawn]

is

D  1181        0h A        NRy     DD  [xapp:DD] [xref:YD
63-03-25(remake)] [desc:DD sews stamp on envelope]

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AA70-04f YD 64-02-04    0h          AT      DD  Et forretningsfif
[xapp:DD] [changes:redrawn]

is

D  1182        0h A        NRy     DD  [xapp:DD] [xref:YD
64-02-04(remake)] [desc:DD buys talking parrot--too cheap]

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AA70-05d ZX 66-05-15    1       BBe MGo MGo SC  Lige børn leger bedst

has written code "1054", so... :-)

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AA70-50g YX 67-11-05    0h      BBe MGo MGo SC  Nå - sådan
AA70-50h YX 67-11-05    0h      BBe MGo MGo SC  En overraskelse

have the written codes D  1456 (new!) and D  1457 (new). This also
explains David's list that has a D  1457A but no D  1457 :-)

Søren




From favio31 at caramail.com  Sun Jul 30 18:27:49 2000
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:27:49 +0100 (WET DST)
Subject: Please respond!
Message-ID: <964974117021814@caramail.com>

> I have three seperate comics featuring stories with:
>A) Thumper, Jiminy Crickett & The Seven Dwarves
>B) Jiminy Crickett, Timothy Mouse & Dumbo
>c) Thumper, The Seven Dwarves & The Wicked Witch
>Does anyone know the issue names and numbers in which there
>are other similar story lines.

I have taken a look at the Inducks for you:

A) "Out-foxing the Wolf" 
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+CP+8-03
B) "Daredevil Dusters" 
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+WDSF+2-03
+ two covers
C) two untitled stories 
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+CP+4-10 
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+WDC+45-04

>Goofy & Merlin

Le miroir magique
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?F+JM+81030
Untitled
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+10+102-00
The Quest for Christmas
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?YC+69-12-01 
+ 1 illustration

>Rabbit, Thumper & The MArch HAre
>Cheshire Cat & Thomas O'Malley
>Jessica Rabbit & King Triton
>Eeyore & Horace

None (in Inducks).

>Daisy Duck & Gepetto

40 jaar DD Feest
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?H+91128
Untitled
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+MD+13-02 

 Favio

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From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Sun Jul 30 22:30:12 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:30:12 -0300
Subject: Donald Duck's Brazilian special edition
Message-ID: <000d01bffa65$16d71ae0$f5abfbc8@default>

    Hi, All!

    Since Disney special editions have become very
rare in Brazil, I'll describe for anyone interested
a surprisingly very good Donald Duck's special edition
for the 50 years of his comic book that Editora Abril
published this month in Brazil.

Its cover can be seen at:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/BC_PD50ANOS_1.jpg

1 - DD 3-page story "Um dia especial" (A special day)
    Donald remember he has a date with Daisy, tries
    to pick up some flowers from a garden, is pursued
    by a bulldog and go to DA's house thinking he has
    no excuses for being late, but find her and HDL
    receptioning him with a surprise party for the
    50 years of his comic book in Brazil.
    No story code. Art:?

2 - 1-page article "Tudo come?ou com um Pato" (Everything beginned
    with a Duck), about Editora Abril and his owner Victor
    Civita (deceased), who inaugurated his publishing company
    with only one publication: "O Pato Donald" in July, 1950.
    1 page, signed by "The publishers"

3 - 5-page article "Donald na Terra do Futebol" (Donald in Soccer's
    land) about the release of "O Pato Donald" #1 four days before
    Brazil's Soccer team compete for 1950's World Soccer Cup final at
    Maracan? stadium, Brazil. There is an illustration of Donald playing
    with a Soccer ball and wearing the Brazilian team's uniform, and
    the reproduction of the PD's first cover.
    It follows talking about the first stories published, where today's
    readers can see some panels and note the old Portuguese used then
    and the odd initial names the characters had.
    Article signed by Marcelo Alencar (Journalist, translator and
    comic book editor)

4 - 1-page article "O primeiro QUAC a gente nunca esquece" (The first
    QUACK we never forget) about DD's debut on the cartoons with "The
    Wise Little Hen" in 1934, and about Clarence Nash.
    Followed by W SS 1-10 "A Galinha S?bia" (The Wise Little Hen),
    14 original Silly Symphony's sunday pages, 2 per page.

5 - 1-page article "Li??o de anatomia" (Anatomy lesson) showing how
    Donald's look has changed through the decades (illustrations by
    Carl Barks). Followed by W WDC  92-02 "Educa??o moderna, paci?ncia
    antiga" (Spoil the Rod) by Barks.

6 - 1-page article "O muquirana e o crime em Pat?polis" (The skinflint
    and the crime in Duckburg), about Uncle Scrooge and The Beagle Boys.
    Illustration by Barks. Followed by W OS  282-02 "O papagaio contador"
    (The Pixilated Parrot) by Barks.

7 - 1-page article about Daisy and her recent appearance in "Fantasia
    2000". Illustration by Barks and a frame of the movie. Followed by
    W WDC 146-01 "Um milh?o de omeletes" (Omelet) by Barks.

8 - 1-page article "O sobrenome dele ? sorte" (His last name is luck)
    about Gladstone Gander. Illustrations by Barks. Followed by
    W DD   46-02 "O tesouro de Hondorica" (Secret of Hondorica) by Barks.

9 - 1-page article "Inventos sob encomenda" (Invents to order) about
    Gyro Gearloose and Little Helper. Illustrations by Barks. Followed
    by W WDC 242-01 "Folias a?reas" (Ballonatics) by Barks.

10- 1-page article "Briga de gente [e conta banc?ria] grande"
    (Big people [and bank account] fight) about John D. Rockerduck.
    Illustrations by Giorgio Cavazzano, Don Rosa and ?. Followed by
    W WDC 255-01 "Gasolina Superzum" (Boat buster) by Barks.

11- 1-page article "Aos p?s do Monte Vesuvio" (At the foot of
    Mount Vesuvius) about Magica De Spell. Illustrations
    by Barks. Followed by W WDC 265-02 "Opera??o Corvo" (Raven Mad)
     by Barks.

12- 1-page article "Sempre alerta" (Always alert) about the Junior
    Woodchucks. Illustration and oils by Barks. Followed by
    W WDC 282-011 "O campe?o dos refris" (Bubbleweight Champ) by
    Barks.

13- 1-page article "O caipira e os patos" (The countryfied and and Ducks)
    about Paul Murry and his work with all Disney characters and specially
    with the Ducks. (Articles about other artists than Barks are very rare
    over here). A photo showing Murry talking to animation director Dick
    Huemer and illustrations by Murry. Followed by W MOC  56-01 "Ca?ada
    avacalhada" (The deer-cow) by Murry.

14- 6-page article "A hist?ria do Pato no mundo" (The Duck's History
    around the world) showing other Duck artists like Willian
    A. Ward (GB), Federico Pedrochi, Romano Scarpa, Giovan Battista
    Carpi (Italy), Al Hubbard, Tony Strobl and Keno Don Rosa, Willian
    Van Horn (US), Vicar (Chile), Luis Destuet (Argentina) and
    Jorge Jato (1st Brazilian Disney Artist) and others.
    Illustrations by the above artists.
    Article signed by Roberto El?sio dos Santos (Journalist and Professor
    of Communications at Instituto Municipal de Ensino Superior, Brazil)

    That's it.
    Tchau,
    -- Arthur.










From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Jul 31 07:24:55 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:24:55 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Komix #146
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0007310823300.6790-100000@poseidon>

Here's what's in the August issue of Komix:

* A cover by Don Rosa, from Walt Disney Giant #3. I have put a scan in
  http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix146.jpg
* A two-page article titled "Supehero for a day", subtitled "A duck upsets
  Superman's world".
* Don Rosa's "Super Snooper Strikes Again".
* Carl Barks' "The Strange Shipwrecks".
* A one-page article titled "Trip to Dawson", subtitled "the original idea of
  two duck fans".
* William Van Horn's "Treasures Untold".
* Paul Murry's "High-Sea Piracy".

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Destiny is the art of throwing darts at random and claiming that anything
 you hit was the target all along."
-----




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Mon Jul 31 20:20:04 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:20:04 -0300
Subject: Please respond!
Message-ID: <005101bffb1b$f48e04a0$5d49e7c8@v2h5i1>

Please respond!Hi All!

    I'm not sure, but I think that Disney don't permit more this tipe of
"Disney Crossover".
I'm saying that, because the second historie I writte(with Markus Corr?a)is
a "Disney Crossover"when Joe Carioca interact with Timon and Pumbaa. My
publisher say to us that Disney don't permit to put this characters togheter
because they are from different universes. Neither on a cover!
    We can't put, for example, Pata Lee(Paperetta Ye Ye)with the ducks,
after the "Disney Teen"(Os Adolescentes)are created, but they live in
duckburg!!!

    I will be very glad if someone can put more information on this!

Fernando Ventura!



Alex Bowman lordwormm at hotmail.com

I am a cartoon lover and have been for as long as I can remember.  I have a
question for anyone who might be able to answer.

My favorite comics (Disney's Stories & Comics) are the ones in which
unlikely characters are introduced to each other and work together.

I.e. I have three seperate comics featuring stories with:
A) Thumper, Jiminy Crickett & The Seven Dwarves
B) Jiminy Crickett, Timothy Mouse & Dumbo
c) Thumper, The Seven Dwarves & The Wicked Witch

Does anyone know the issue names and numbers in which there are other
similar story lines.

I would love to see most interesting stories concocted to bring otehr
characters together.

Goofy & Merlin                     Rabbit, Thumper & The MArch HAre
Maleficent & The Fairy Godmother   Little John , Baloo & Pooh Bear
Cheshire Cat & Thomas O'Malley     Mr. Smee & Brave Little Toaster
Willie the Operatic Whale & Monstro    Jessica Rabbit & King Triton
Eeyore & Horace                      Daisy Duck & Gepetto

Wouldn't these be fascinating.  Replies are welcome.  Help is requested.

Thanks for listening.

Alex
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From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Mon Jul 31 23:13:40 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:13:40 -0300
Subject: Donald Duck's Brazilian special edition (corrections)
Message-ID: <000d01bffb6b$ce06fc60$04abfbc8@default>

    Hi!

    I've made some mistakes reporting about
DD's Brazilian special edition (50 years special issue):

Item 4: The story code is ZS 34-09-16, not W SS   1-10 .

Item 7: I forgot the title of the article:
        "Cheia de charme" (Full of charm)

Item 14: The last artist's name is Jorge Kato, not "Jato" :-(

    Tchau,
    -- Arthur.




From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Mon Jul 31 21:17:16 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:17:16 -0300
Subject: Disney Comics On Line - version 2
Message-ID: <000c01bffb6b$cd0b3740$04abfbc8@default>

    Thierry Fernand wrote:

>    An improved version of my "Disney Comics Online" is at the 
>following URL:
> http://members.forez.com/livia

>I also have added a link to the Brazilian story "A Heroine is 
>Born" (http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/), in 
>English.

    Thanks, Thierry. Unhappily my Web space is very
small, so the stories I put there stay there for only 2
weeks or so. New stories will replace the previous ones,
therefore the link will always work.

>Request:
>Arthur Faria Jr. translated many other (great) Brazilian 
>stories. Are these stories available somewhere on the web? 
>I'd of course love to add links to them. If this is not the 
>case but if someone saved them and can send them to me, 
>please contact me.

    Thanks! I don't know about other links to the "old"
stories I put before. But I can upload them again, one
at a time, if there are other people who didn't have 
the opportunity to read them.
Here is a list of stories I have already put on-line:

Pena Kid (Fethry Kid):
---------------------
B 74143  "Thorny mission" 9p (FE's comic hero)
B 74144  "Fethry Kid and Xaxam" 9p (FE's comic hero)
B 830170 "A horsy friendship" 12p
B 830186 "Fethry Kid meets Penelope Jones" 9p
B 840033 "How a brave is born" 8p
B 840175 "A Foreman not so capable" 13p
B 860038 "It can shine like gold, but..." 8p
B 870143 "The longest duel of the West" 11p
B 880083 "A Duck of fame" 8p

Pena Submarino (Fethry The Submariner):
--------------------------------------
B 830008 "Fethry The Submariner" 7p
B 840177 "Those dry people are crazy" 9p

Pena das Selvas (Jungle Fethry):
-------------------------------
B 830207 "The Animal Men" 6p
B 840034 "Domestic problems" 7p
B 840073 "The wonders of television" 6p

Stories still on-line:

Morcego Vermelho (Red Bat):
--------------------------
B 820231 "A heroine is born... Purple Butterfly" 7p

"New" Daisy Duck:
----------------
B 860063 "A new Daisy Duck" 8p

Those last two will be removed soon!

>******** Foreword *******
>I hope this page will help you find the best Disney comics 
>material on the web, and would like to thank everyone once 
>again for their help.

    It sure does that! I wanted to read some Don Rosa
stories never published in Brazil and your links were/are
*very* helpful!

   Tchau,
-- Arthur.




