From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Jun  1 00:36:33 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:36:33 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #163 - 18 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200005311000.MAA11112@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200005311000.MAA11112@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04310100b55af14757e6@[207.218.83.40]>

Don:

>Anyway, the cover (to my surprise!) popped up on one of the last issues of
>WDC&S, so you've already seen it. It's the one with Donald and $crooge and
>Mickey on a jungle expedition.

When in the course of events windows of opportunity opened for us to 
be bold and daring, we did not hesitate. Much.
-- 
Gary

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From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Jun  1 00:02:20 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:02:20 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #162 - 10 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200005301000.MAA13676@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200005301000.MAA13676@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04310100b559e38e2eda@[207.218.83.40]>

Kristian wrote:

>At the risk of displaying to to the world my in no way impressive
>knowledge of the Bible (I _could_ go home and check first, but then I'd
>have to wait until tomorrow to post this), I think Noah actually DID take
>more than one pair from some of the species, didn't he? If that's true,
>and nothing further is mentioned, then we still don't know for sure
>whether whatever-it-is-that-Donald-and-Daisy-are (WIITDADA) = ducks ;)

The Biblical tale of Noah is, according to many scholars, a parallel 
telling of a single tale, its threads taken from at least two 
distinct sources (with certain passages suggesting a third). In one 
of the two readily distinguishable threads the animals are permitted 
a single pair of each type aboard the ark, whether clean or unclean, 
while in the other the clean animals and all birds are allowed seven 
pairs per type on the ark, and the unclean animals but a single pair 
per type. The single-pair-per-type numbering is reiterated twice, 
which might partly explain why it is the better known and most often 
used in popular entertainment. However, the seven-pair-clean and 
one-pair-unclean numbering is possibly the more valid from an 
ecclesiastical standpoint, as it best serves the requirements of the 
ritual sacrifices conducted by Noah after the waters receded. In any 
event, both threads permit four pairs of humans aboard the ark, 
though reproductively speaking one pair, Noah and his wife, are a bit 
past it.

An interesting irony of the Old Testament concepts of "clean" and 
"unclean" animals is that the prescribed fate of many "clean" animals 
is to be sacrificed and to be eaten, while all "unclean" animals are 
spared this. Humans also can become "clean" or "unclean" according to 
certain natural cycles, types of physical contact, and rituals, 
though in neither state are they to be sacrificed and eaten.

Anyway, if the Donald-type creatures seen boarding the ark in 
Fantasia 2000 are human-equivalent, then not only are they not be 
fixed in a "clean" or "unclean" state, but they don't belong in the 
animal queue in the first place. If they are not human-equivalent 
then they are birds, more specifically ritually clean waterfowl, and 
Noah will sacrifice a number of them when the Deluge is over.

That first notion creates difficult contradictions, while the second 
notion doesn't even bear thinking about. Come down to it, it's hardly 
the sort of baggage the gag in Fantasia 2000 deserves. What Disney 
version of any Old Testament story is going to include animal 
sacrifices anyway?
-- 
Gary

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From gbalanik at med.auth.gr  Thu Jun  1 00:50:32 2000
From: gbalanik at med.auth.gr (Georgios Balanikas MD)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 01:50:32 +0300
Subject: Lord, Movies,Fantasia 2000
Message-ID: <004d01bfcb52$a62a2580$03000004@x1y6a1>

KRITON

>I guess you beat me to the question. Did you actually know the French and
>English titles of the movie, or did you raid the Internet Movie Database,
>like I did?

No, I asked my wife Irene who is Cinema expert and we looked at some book
guides (L. Maltin etc. ) I know the Internet Movie Database but I didn't
think to search at that particular moment.
>
>> I would like to ask Don if this is true or it's a simple but amazing
>> coincidence.
>
>Given Don's fondness for movies from that era, it would be an amazing
>coincidence if this weren't true.

I also knew and suspected  that but  I just wanted to have the artist's
opinion  about this detail.

DON ROSA

>Anyway, the cover (to my surprise!) popped up on one of the last issues of
>WDC&S, so you've already seen it.

It's Uncle Scrooge #317 and as I can see there is no great difference in
Donald's hat design from Gladstone's cover (which IMO is rich in details)

 It's the one with Donald and >But I do
see what looks like "Ntov Pooa" mentioned on the cover ... that
>was nice of them. (That's how they spell "Don Rosa" in Greek!)

The spelling of the name  Don Rosa in Greek is: Nton Rossa

FABIO

>Hello:
>          a question for the boys from Greece. You know, I was searching
>some bookshop oriented to Greeks books and magazines but, Alas! is no one
>here in Buenos Aires. I talk to the Embassy, but nothing. So, in the
>meantime I search (I'll try with some comic shop), can some of you give me
>the requirements for the Komix suscriptions? Thanks!

The address of KOMIX is:
KOMIX magazine
NEA AKTINA AE
7 Frangoklisias st .
GR 151 25
Marousi,
GREECE
And they are accepting international subscriptions.

>Hi Guys. I'm Apostolis, a new member!

Wecome to the list Apostolis!!
............................................................................
.............................

I haven't yet seen FANTASIA 2000 ,but I am curious to see  Al
Hirschfeld's contribution, the Legendary New York Times (Art section) and
Broadway caricaturist in the Rhapsody in Blue segment.

Georgios




From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Thu Jun  1 07:43:55 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:43:55 +0700
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <00e201bfcb8c$60b50800$d21c9eca@kulim>

Hi all,
While browsing through eBay, i gound this item down here for auctioned. It's
expensive and i was sightseeing only. But the one thing that caught my eyes
was the different panels from what i had in my US version of the story. My
has US and DD looping many times while this one over here showed other
scenes not included in the printed story. Anyone can provide any info about
this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=345683451

Thanks in advance,
Arie Fachrisal




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Thu Jun  1 08:40:28 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:40:28 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: The Wages of the Last Lord of Eldorado
In-Reply-To: <200005311000.MAA11123@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006010931410.12536-100000@dias>

DON:

> But I do see what looks like "Ntov Pooa" mentioned on the cover ... that
> was nice of them. (That's how they spell "Don Rosa" in Greek!)

Actually, it says "The Last Lord of Eldorado by Ntov Pooa"... I mean
"Don Rosa", so that people who don't usually rush on the last Friday of
each month to buy Komix, will know that they have to rush and buy this
month's issue.

> That would have been one hum-dinger of a coincidence! The truck in my story
> even had the "SOC" ("Southern Oil Company") logo on the door just like in
> the movie. It had everything except Yves Montand. I mean, what are the
> odds?!

Hmmm... sounds like I'll have to make another scan from Komix, showing the
two trucks side by side.

> Both stories were about moving loads across the Andes, so I figured I'd use
> the same truck that made it about the same year my story takes place.

I wonder if they figured this out by themselves (wow!), or if you told them.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's something unnervingly recursive about digging up the remains of
 dead archaeologists."
-----




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Thu Jun  1 09:35:42 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:35:42 +0200 
Subject: Arie: changes in "Land Beneath the Ground"
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E2327C32@GSPSVR>

Arie wrote:
<< But the one thing that caught my eyes
> was the different panels from what i had in my US version of the story. My
> has US and DD looping many times while this one over here showed other
> scenes not included in the printed story. Anyone can provide any info
> about
> this? 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=345683451 >>
> 
The "Land beneath the ground" story was heavily edited before it was
published in US 13: 5 pages were cut (out of the original 32).
Luckily, two and a half pages survived, and were later published in the Carl
Barks Library and in the Celestial Arts book from which the eBay page comes
from.
For details about this story and many many others, take a look at Daniel van
Eijmeren's wonderful website:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/index.html

(follow the link to "Comics" and then "Unpublished / lost works")

Hope it helps,
Armando



From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Thu Jun  1 09:36:04 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 04:36:04 -0300
Subject: Thanks!
Message-ID: <003201bfcb9c$252b61c0$63e329c8@default>

Thanks for the data about Komix. Who talk bad about greek gifts?

Fabio

PS: next week will be exhibit Fantasia 2000 here in Argentina. I want see it
just now!




From apokill at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  1 11:54:17 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:54:17 +0300
Subject: The new "Life and Times" part!
Message-ID: <20000601095507.3413.qmail@hotmail.com>

Did anyone know about the 10b chapter of "Life And Times"?
This chapter will be set in Panama in November, 1906, during Teddy
Roosevelt's inspection of the Canal excavation.



From apokill at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  1 11:59:45 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:59:45 +0300
Subject: Don Don Don...
Message-ID: <20000601100040.31352.qmail@hotmail.com>

Dear Don,
Did you ever think about visiting Athens? You know that your stories are
very popular here (and specially "The Life and Times" and "Th Guardians of
the Lost Library"). Komix always putting articles about you, when a story is
published.
I heard about a new "The Life and Times" chapter, the 10b one. I'd like to
send me some information about that.
Apostolis Trikourakis






From apokill at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  1 12:37:18 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:37:18 +0300
Subject: The new KOMIX chat room: Come and fun!
Message-ID: <20000601103816.79353.qmail@hotmail.com>

Go immediately to the new Komix room:
http://www.bravenet.com/chat/show.php?usernum=704063116
Go to that page, click the button "Chat", select the "KOMIX room" and...have
fun!
Only for people who understand what kind of magazine KOMIX is...
Duckfans and Rosafans, just visit now my chat!
Talk about Komix, Don Rosa, new stories, european disney magazine etc
KOMIX chat room: have fun!!!
Open for both Greek and European fans! All day, all year!!! And it's free!
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece



From HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl  Thu Jun  1 20:46:52 2000
From: HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl (Henri Kunne)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:46:52 +0200
Subject: Duck eggs
Message-ID: <000c01bfcbfa$4997a240$a30635d5@kunne>

Arthur Faria Jr. wrote:

>> on the last panel
>> of page 5, Fethry is ordering "duck egg" for a meal....
> It's because Fethry, like Donald, isn't really
> a duck (or he thinks he isn't) ;-)
>  -- Arthur.

In your archives, you can find some mailings of mine,
coupla months old, wherein I'm bringing forth some
evidence the Ducks really DO think they're ducks
(without capital: duck birds!). And so do I; on this
point, I heavily disagree with Rosa (and some others
on the list, it seems).
    Greetings, Henri




From dellarciprete at tiscalinet.it  Fri Jun  2 01:59:38 2000
From: dellarciprete at tiscalinet.it (Ugo Dell'Arciprete)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:59:38 +0200
Subject: Lady Pig
References: <200006011000.MAA11639@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000801bfcc25$72e17e20$94780b3e@arciprete>

> He did. You can see Fifer Pig costumed in his lady pig disguise on
> the last page of WDC&S 632... (truly a *weird* moment in Disneydom, as the
> article explains...)
>
> David Gerstein

Thanks for mentioning, but unfortunately I've got no WDC&S comics.
Could yourself or any other lovely list member scan that page for us?
Ugo





From Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com  Fri Jun  2 03:03:11 2000
From: Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com (Doukakis, Mark (NBC))
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:03:11 -0400 
Subject: As a new member...
Message-ID: <89C82A6FA163D211AFAD0001FA375A801109E6@la03nbcge.nbc.com>

Just wanted to say greetings from Burbank, California to all registered duck
fans out there, and offer as brief as possible an introduction of myself.

I'm originally from Greece, where in 1966, at eight years old, I began the
pilgrimage to "MIKY MAOYS" (to this day all Greek kids know, as most Greek
adults of my age and younger remember, what was the one and only [at that
time] Disney magazine that made its weekly delivery [was it Saturday
afternoons?] to the periptero, or magazine kiosk). I often would wait there
for the motor-scooter with a huge bundle of magazines and newspapers tied to
the back rack. I'd hand over my two, or was it three, drachma and then I'd
run to a quiet place of our house and spend a few precious hours alone with
Paul Murry's Mickey and my favorite ducks drawn mostly by Italian masters
like Scarpa. Barks and Strobl stories didn't start trickling into Greek
publication until the second, larger format Disney comic "MEGALO MIKY" came
along, I believe, in 1967 or 1968. My parents and I left Crete for
California at the end of 1968, and the box of Disney comics I was allowed to
lug along served my needs for awhile. But I was distracted trying to fit-in
in my new country and television was a new and wonderful thing to me. My
passion was stored away as were my comic books.

I'm now forty-one and married with two children, ages four and two. I don't
know exactly how or why (maybe it has to do with the mysterious way in which
a child affects the deep psyche of the parent), but suddenly I find myself
on a new and desperate mission of collecting as many Disney duck comics as I
can afford. I've got a long way to go, I've been away for so long. 

Today as much as I appreciate Barks' work, I have a special love for those
long Italian duck stories. I'd love to hear from you Romano Scarpa fans out
there. Here's to a brimming bowl of lentils (from Babylon)!

Mark Doukakis


        Because e-mail can be altered electronically,
        the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun  2 09:10:48 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:10:48 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: KOMIX question
In-Reply-To: <200005311000.MAA11123@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006020949180.8357-100000@dias>

FABIO:

> can some of you give me
> the requirements for the Komix suscriptions? Thanks!

Their address is:

Terzopoulos Publications Ltd.
Subscriptions Department
Frangoklissias 7
151 25 Marousi
Greece

A one-year subscription to Komix costs:

Greece & Cyprus: 7200 drachmas
Europe: 42 Euro
Other countries: US$ 44

in addition to which you'll get a special printing of Murry's "flying
aircraft carrier" story (one of the three stories where Mickey was a
secret agent in a world of humans).

You can either send the subscription fee using a banker's draft or
have it charged to your credit card (they accept Diners Club, Visa,
MasterCard, and American Express).

You can also call them for information at +30-1-6196366, send them a fax
at +30-1-6106631, or even try contacting them via e-mail at komix at terz.gr,
though I believe that getting an e-mail reply from them is a rare event.
You should have no trouble if you write to them in English.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's something unnervingly recursive about digging up the remains of
 dead archaeologists."
-----




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun  2 09:30:30 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:30:30 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: The Wages of the Last Lord of Eldorado
In-Reply-To: <200006011000.MAA11605@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006021027170.8357-100000@dias>

KRITON: :-)

> Hmmm... sounds like I'll have to make another scan from Komix, showing the
> two trucks side by side.

I put it in http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix144a.jpg

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's something unnervingly recursive about digging up the remains of
 dead archaeologists."
-----




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun  2 13:04:34 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:04:34 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #165 - 7 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200006021000.MAA03739@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006021311400.11083-100000@dias>

APOSTOLIS:

> Dear Don,
> Did you ever think about visiting Athens? You know that your stories are
> very popular here (and specially "The Life and Times" and "The Guardians of
> the Lost Library"). Komix always putting articles about you, when a story is
> published.

I'm sure that Don has probably thought about visiting every single place
in the world where his stories are popular. The trouble with this is
that the only way he can do so without getting broke is to either find
a fragment of Uncle Scrooge's ticket from "The Mines of King Solomon",
or be invited by the local publisher. Unfortunately, when another Greek
fan asked the Komix editors if they could invite Don to Greece, they
replied that this is "beyond their abilities".  Presumably they believe
it would be too expensive.


MARK:

> time] Disney magazine that made its weekly delivery [was it Saturday
> afternoons?]

Friday mornings.

> I'd hand over my two, or was it three, drachma

Three.

It is interesting that we remember such details after all these years!

> Barks and Strobl stories didn't start trickling into Greek
> publication until the second, larger format Disney comic "MEGALO MIKY" came
> along,

Actually, there was a Barks story (the one about the carnivorous plants)
in MIKY MAOYS #1, and another one in MIKY MAOYS #3 ("The Prize of
Pizarro", for which I used to have a very special place in my heart,
until Gladstone and Disney re-re...re-printed it to death.) I'm pretty
sure other Barks stories were printed in MIKY MAOYS (the one with the
giant Donald-Shaped balloon comes to mind), as well as some Strobl stories
(all of which I have forgotten).  What's interesting is that Barks stories
had not been completely unknown to Greece until 1966, when MIKY MAOYS
started being published. Before that, there was a series called "Gelio
kai Hara" (=laughter and joy), published by Atlantis publications, which
was something similar to the American four-color series. They printed
all kinds of stuff, like Little Lulu, Bugs Bunny, and, of course, Disney
comics. I vaguely remember reading an Uncle Scrooge (whose name had
been Hellenized as "Theios Skroutzis") that was in Barks' style. (No,
I can't possibly justify the claim that I can remember the style in
which a story that I read when I was 4or 5 years old had been drawn!)

> My passion was stored away as were my comic books.

If your passion was only stored, instead of being thrown away, then
you are a very lucky person, as many of the stories in those early MIKY
MAOYS issues are masterpieces, and that box of MIKY MAOYS is a priceless
treasure!

> Today as much as I appreciate Barks' work, I have a special love for those
> long Italian duck stories. I'd love to hear from you Romano Scarpa fans out
> there.

I think list members are divided into two categories regarding Romano
Scarpa: Those who claim he is one of the three best Disney comics artists
(the other two being Barks and Rosa, of course), and the one person who
thinks that Scarpa's stories are nothing to write home about!

> Here's to a brimming bowl of lentils (from Babylon)!

With linseed oil? Yum!

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's something unnervingly recursive about digging up the remains of
 dead archaeologists."
-----




From eega at supereva.it  Fri Jun  2 16:14:03 2000
From: eega at supereva.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:14:03 +0200
Subject: UGO: ladypig
Message-ID: <3937c08e394ff766@laguna.tiscalinet.it> (added by
	    laguna.tiscalinet.it)

UGO

>> He did. You can see Fifer Pig costumed in his lady pig disguise on
>> the last page of WDC&S 632... (truly a *weird* moment in Disneydom, as the
>> article explains...)
>>
>> David Gerstein
>
>Thanks for mentioning, but unfortunately I've got no WDC&S comics.
>Could yourself or any other lovely list member scan that page for us?

You can find a small reproduction of that image on my covers page at

http://etabeta.pcupdate.easyspace.com/covers.html

See the USA section, "Mickey Mouse Magazine", of which this was
the cover, issue of august 1938.


Cheers

Eta Beta



From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Thu Jun  1 16:30:44 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:30:44 -0300
Subject: Mickey Mouse is not a mouse!
Message-ID: <002001bfcbd5$f918fc20$5b76d3c8@fernando>


I drew this last week my first Mickey Mouse historie, with Aparecido
Norberto correcting my Mickey and Goof figures. In that historie, writte by
Orlando de Paes Filho, Mickey transforms a little mouse into a monster that
destroy Duckburg(Yes, we don't have Mousetown here in Brazil). Into the end,
created by myself, the monster is re-transformed into a giant Mickey Mouse.
But this end is recused by our editor because he sad that Disney didn't
permit that Mickey become associated with a Mouse, because he is NOT a
mouse, he is a HUMAN! And the same with Don!
Good...

Fernando Ventura!





From frspreaf at tin.it  Fri Jun  2 16:53:28 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:53:28 +0200
Subject: As a new member...
References: <89C82A6FA163D211AFAD0001FA375A801109E6@la03nbcge.nbc.com>
Message-ID: <000201bfccb1$d8107c60$8d82abd4@darthlaz>

From: "Doukakis, Mark (NBC)" <Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com>

> Just wanted to say greetings from Burbank, California to all registered
duck
> fans out there, and offer as brief as possible an introduction of myself.

Welcome! Burbank, California?? Wow, that's a place definitely in topic with
the list :-)

> Today as much as I appreciate Barks' work, I have a special love for those
> long Italian duck stories. I'd love to hear from you Romano Scarpa fans
out
> there. Here's to a brimming bowl of lentils (from Babylon)!

You'll find a lot of Scarpa fans here :-)
Since you're Greek I guess you've already found al the "Komix" issues
reprinting Scarpa's stories, haven't you?

--
Francesco.




From apokill at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  2 18:57:23 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:57:23 +0300
Subject: As a new member...
Message-ID: <20000602165824.3393.qmail@hotmail.com>

>>>Just wanted to say greetings from Burbank, California to all registered
duck
fans out there, and offer as brief as possible an introduction of myself.

California? Wow. Your name sounds like Greek: ????????! I'm from Athens,
compatriot! Let's see...Do you have any Komix issue? I have 123 out of 144
issues. But there you can find "Uncle Scrooge Adventures"...
I have the 1st issue of ???? ?????, pal! Yep, the 1st issue from 1966.
Welcome to the club, Mark!
DON ROSA FOR EVER!





From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Fri Jun  2 22:05:14 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:05:14 -0400
Subject: Barks's Centennial
Message-ID: <3938137A.A5F4B9F5@mpinet.net>

Don,
    You recently mentioned that plans were afoot to raise awareness of
Carl Barks coinciding with his 100th birthday.  My question is "Why
wait?"  Let's start things going now while we know Mr. Barks is here to
appreciate them.  I want him to live a long time, too, but I'd much
rather he be around  to see this celebration than have it turn into a
posthumous one.  (I apologize if this sound in any way morbid, but we
just lost Charles Schulz,  George Burns barely made it passed his 100th,
and Bob Hope isn't doing well at all.  None of us are guaranteed
tomorrow.)
    A birthday marks the completion of a year, therefore Mr. Barks's
100th year has already begun.  Let's strike while the iron is hot.  If
Disney is going to be involved, they tend to celebrate things for at
least a year anyway. (WDW's 25th Anniversary was 15 months long.)
    Food for thought.




From deoll at mediaone.net  Sat Jun  3 06:23:43 2000
From: deoll at mediaone.net (David Eoll)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:23:43 -0400
Subject: Carl Barks health
References: <200005311000.MAA11139@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3938884F.AADFD16@mediaone.net>

My first time posting to this (or any) list.  I hope this is right.  

> From: HoyMurphy at aol.com
> 
> Someone on another mailing list posted a message, citing Bruce Hamilton, that
> Carl Barks has been diagnosed with leukemia.  I hope this is just a bad
> rumor.  Can anyone confirm or deny this story?  Mr. Barks is 99 years old,
> and I'm hoping he'll be with us for many more years.

I am sorry to hear about this.  But do not lose hope.  One thing Carl
has going for him in this situation is his age.  I am not in the medical
profession in any way, but I'm pretty sure that most cancers are much
less aggressive in the old than the young.  My great-grandmother had
leukemia for many years before passing away.  My grandfather also had
prostate cancer for about 4 or 5 years, and it was not what killed him.

It is my wish to see Willard Scott wish Carl happy 100th next year.  For
those not in USA, Willard is a morning television personality on one of
the national networks (he does the weather), and one of his trademarks
is wishing happy birthday to centenarians.

Regards,
David Eoll



From pierrebi at tiscalinet.it  Fri Jun  2 08:42:52 2000
From: pierrebi at tiscalinet.it (Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:42:52
Subject: Donald on the Ark
In-Reply-To: <200005301000.MAA13710@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.16.20000602084252.375f10fc@pop.tiscalinet.it>

Dear friends, I did not read my mail for 3 days because of my exam in Holy
Scriptures 2: Ancient Testament. I have got a 28/30, and I am not very happy.
Any way I would like to share a my little knowledge with you. I hope not to
appear pretentious.

A preamble: Genesis 1-10 (in a few words) was written by members of a
Priest Theological School who collected tales of the mesopotanian area and
of Israel tradion (oral and, maybe, written)

Kristian Pedersen <K.Pedersen at Oberthurcs.com> wrote

>At the risk of displaying to to the world my in no way impressive 
>knowledge of the Bible (I _could_ go home and check first, but then I'd 
>have to wait until tomorrow to post this), I think Noah actually DID take 
>more than one pair from some of the species, didn't he? If that's true, 
>and nothing further is mentioned, then we still don't know for sure 
>whether whatever-it-is-that-Donald-and-Daisy-are (WIITDADA) = ducks ;)

The Bible has got, at last, two *different* narration of Noah story mixed
togheter: one tells of one pair from each species and the other one tells
of seven pairs, male and female.

The pair cames from the mythes of god and goddes who gave birth to life, or
the mythes of the god of the heaven (male) who inseminate the goddes earth
(female) witt rain. 
Seven is the perfect number, the number who means totality and beauty (you
can see the "Song of creation" in Genesis 1)

"Henri Kunne" <HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl> wrote 
>
>That's not obvious. According to Genesis 7:2, by divine command (and NOT
>by 'not being fair'), Noah took seven pairs of the clean species, one pair
>of the unclean species; pigs and the like. (Guess The Three Little Pigs
>had to pick straws....

The problem of clean and unclean became whit the  Priests ... so that I
think that the second narration is a Priest Narration  while the first one
is taken from ancient mythes of the zone. 

After Genesis 1:27 the pair has lost is mythical means to became a symbol
of totality: the man (male and female) were created the 7th day. 

Than arrived the sin and so all the problem of clean and unclean. I'm
christian and so I believe  Jesus resolved the problem of sin, and  the
clean/unclean question (Act 10:9-16)

I am sorry, but I cannot write in english very well. If somebody would
likes a more scientific explanation I am pleased to go the library and to
find answers!

Ciao da Pietro





From thomas at duckburg.dk  Sat Jun  3 11:27:51 2000
From: thomas at duckburg.dk (Thomas Lauritsen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:27:51 +0200
Subject: issue numbers + Disney by Marvel
Message-ID: <000b01bfcd3e$222ec4a0$7d4436d4@thomas2000>

Would anyone here be able to tell me what the exact cutlines are for
publishing companies of American Disney comic books? Which issue numbers was
published by Goldkey, Whitman, Gladstone 1st run, Disney Comics, Gladstone
2nd run (others?)

I know approxemate numbers for Uncle Scrooge:
? -> #242 Gladstone's 1st run
243 -> app. #280 Disney Comics
app. 285 -> 318 Gladstone's 2nd run

I would like to know this for
-Uncle Scrooge (US Adventures?)
-WDC
-Donald Duck (DD Adventures?) - I know Disney Comics started from #1 with DD
-others if you have them


Another matter:

Does anybody here know anything about Uncle Scrooge issues distributed by
Marvel? I have a couple of issues that are exact copies of the Gladstone
issues - the only thing changed is that where the Gladstone logo is normally
placed it says "Disney Comics distributed by Marvel". I have issues that say
this from US#281 to US#292.


Thanks in advance,
Thomas Lauritsen

--
thomas at duckburg.dk www.duckburg.dk
PGP key at www.duckburg.dk/tl/tlpgpkey.asc





From apokill at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  3 12:43:18 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:43:18 +0300
Subject: A message for Kriton...
Message-ID: <20000603104411.50423.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi dear Kriton!
I'll be very glad if you sent me a scan of the Komix # 140 cover 'cause I
wanted for my page. Also, I would like to use your Komix # 140 translated
interview in order to put it in my page.
Thank you very much! (Euxaristo)
Apostolis, Athens



From apantsi at binghamton.edu  Sat Jun  3 16:48:42 2000
From: apantsi at binghamton.edu (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:48:42 -0400
Subject: Back from the Rosa trip!
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000603104842.00798b50@mail.binghamton.edu>

Fellow Quackeroos:

We (the undersigned and fellow DCML-member from Sweden Orjan Berglud) just
returned from a 4-day trip to Louisville, Kentucky! I plan to write an
extensive piece on our visit (we stayed at Don Rosa's house for 2 *full*
days having his undivided attention!!!) sometime next week. At this point
I'd like to thank Don for his wonderful hospitality and for keeping us away
from...poison ivy!!! :-)) (you'll read a lot about it in my piece!).

What a *FABULOUS* experience that was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Archontis




------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor 
Department of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York 13902
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
fax: (607)777-2681
------------------------------



From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Sat Jun  3 17:12:36 2000
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:12:36 -0400
Subject: issue numbers and disney by marvel
Message-ID: <20000603.111241.-105195.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

I think I can help w/ your questions.

The runs for Uncle Scrooge are:
1-39:  Dell 
41-173:  Gold Key
174-209: Whitman
210-242 Gladstone (1st run)
243-280 Disney Comics
281-318 Gladstone (2nd run)  309-318 prestige format

Uncle Scrooge Adventures ran for 55 issues.  1-21 were during Gladstone's
first run, all the others were in the second.

Donald Duck:

FC 4 (1)-84: Dell Publishing
85-216: Gold Key
217-245: Whitman 
246-279: Gladstone (1st run)
280-304: Gladstone (2nd run)

There were 2 different series of books called "Donald Duck Adventures". 
The first of these was started by Gladstone and ran for 20 issues until
the end of their first run.  When Disney Comics began publishing the
books, the started the numbering over with 1.  This title (referred to as
DDA series 2) lasted for 38 issues.  When Gladstone begain publishing the
books again, they picked up their numbering from series one and published
issues 21-45.  These issues are referred to as series 3.

WDC&S

1-263: Dell
264-473: Gold Key
474-510: Whitman 
511-547 Gladstone (1st run)	
548-585: Disney Comics	
586-633: Gladstone (2nd run) 601-633 prestige format

To answer the question about Marvel US books, in the early days of
Gladstone's second run the books were distributed to newstands (i.e.
grocery stores, drug stores etc.) by Marvel, though the books were still
published by Gladstone.  If you wanted to get your books w/ the Gladstone
logo, you had to go to a comic store, or subscribe.  I'm not sure when
this ended, but I would say about a year after the practice started.

About the book runs:  There are many more titles that existed.  Some
famous (Mickey Mouse) some not so famous (grandma duck's farm friends). 
I figured these would be the most helpful titles to you.  It would take
hours to list the runs for every Disney title.  I got this info from the
Overstreet Price Guide, which has little use to me as a price guide, but
is a very valuable reference source.  It might be a good idea to pick up
one of those.

Rodney Bowcock


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From pcravo at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  3 18:44:27 2000
From: pcravo at hotmail.com (Pedro Cravo)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:44:27 PDT
Subject: History of Computers
Message-ID: <20000603164427.66882.qmail@hotmail.com>

I've finished uploading the History of Computers. You can read it at 
http://www.terravista.pt/MeiaPraia/1371/disney/disney.htm

It's the original brazilian version, but if you understand spanish I think 
you'll be able to figure out everything.

Enjoy it.

Pedro Cravo
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From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  3 20:30:00 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:30:00 CEST
Subject: As a new member...
Message-ID: <20000603183000.65955.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Apostolis Trikourakis" <apokill at hotmail.com>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: As a new member...
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:57:23 +0300

>California? Wow. Your name sounds like Greek: ????????! I'm from Athens, 
>compatriot! Let's see...Do you have any Komix issue? I have 123 out of 144 
>issues. But there you can find "Uncle Scrooge Adventures"... I have the 1st 
>issue of ???? ?????, pal! Yep, the 1st issue from 1966. Welcome to the 
>club, Mark!

The Greek letters might appear strange for some people... It should be read 
as "DELTA-omikron-ypsilon-kappa-alfa-kappa-eta-sigma" and as 
"MY-JOTA-KAPPA-YPSILON MY-ALFA-OMIKRON-YPSILON-SIGMA". How does this text in 
Japanese appear for you? "&#26085;&#26412;&#35486;"
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From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  3 20:49:31 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:49:31 CEST
Subject: issue numbers and disney by marvel
Message-ID: <20000603184931.98282.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com>
>To: thomas at duckburg.dk, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: issue numbers and disney by marvel
>Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:12:36 -0400
>
>I think I can help w/ your questions.
>
>The runs for Uncle Scrooge are:
>1-39:  Dell
>41-173:  Gold Key

And #40?
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From dellarciprete at tiscalinet.it  Sun Jun  4 01:09:07 2000
From: dellarciprete at tiscalinet.it (Ugo Dell'Arciprete)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:09:07 +0200
Subject: More Lady Pig
References: <200006031000.MAA29576@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <002401bfcdb0$c05b2480$ab7b0b3e@arciprete>

> >> He did. You can see Fifer Pig costumed in his lady pig disguise on
> >> the last page of WDC&S 632... (truly a *weird* moment in Disneydom, as
the
> >> article explains...)
> >>
> >> David Gerstein

> You can find a small reproduction of that image on my covers page at
> http://etabeta.pcupdate.easyspace.com/covers.html
>
> Eta Beta

David :
I looked at the cover on Eta's page, both the art and the word joke are very
funny indeed.
But it's just a cover, what did you mean by "as the article explains"? Which
article? What's explained?
Ugo




From eega at supereva.it  Sun Jun  4 15:05:34 2000
From: eega at supereva.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:05:34 +0200
Subject: Scarpa and Lady Pig
Message-ID: <393a53543966bead@twingo.tiscalinet.it> (added by
	    twingo.tiscalinet.it)

MARK

>Today as much as I appreciate Barks' work, I have a special love for those
>long Italian duck stories. I'd love to hear from you Romano Scarpa fans out
>there. Here's to a brimming bowl of lentils (from Babylon)!

And a big welcome to you, mate, along with a cordial invitation to
visit my page about Romano Scarpa, "The Last Balaboo", at

http://members.xoom.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html

To old fans that possibly lost hope of ever seeing that page updated,
please be patient a little while more... a *massive* update is on
its way, but I need to relocate to a new host, and my scanner passed
away, both problems that are currently keeping me "stalled"...

Also, Mark, you can still check a Scarpa story in English, "The Case
of the Soccer Tickets" at

http://www9.50megs.com/xaridian/Index.html

courtesy of the "Phantom Blot"  :-)


UGO

>I looked at the cover on Eta's page, both the art and the word joke are very
>funny indeed.
>But it's just a cover, what did you mean by "as the article explains"? Which
>article? What's explained?

Nothing. Rather, questions are posed... :-)

The text piece is short enough to be partially reported here, the first
part is only a description of the image (which is shown in a nice largish
format), and the final part is what might be of interest...

title: The Inexplicable Pig

"Covers to MMM didn't always portray Mickey or Donald, but they
wouldn't show generic farm animals, either. So, back to the point
or LACK of a point to the cover gag. If it was one of the Three
Little Pigs, why did he dress up like a girl ? If it's a girl-pig,
well, why is she there AT ALL - and especially with the "S" on
"Swimmin'" gone ? Did she "X" it out ? And, if so, why ? Even
the frog seem to wonder."


Cheers

Eta Beta



From xephyr at jps.net  Sun Jun  4 12:09:37 2000
From: xephyr at jps.net (Rich)
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:09:37 +0000
Subject: Characters from the HISTORY OF COMPUTERS?
References: <200006041000.MAA23556@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <393A2AD9.510FC8E8@jps.net>

Pedro Cravo
> 
> I've finished uploading the History of Computers. You can read it at
> http://www.terravista.pt/MeiaPraia/1371/disney/disney.htm
> 
> It's the original brazilian version, but if you understand spanish I think
> you'll be able to figure out everything.
> 
> Enjoy it.

Thank you for sharing that comic.  I did enjoy it.  It doesn't seem to be
"completely" indexed yet so I was wondering if you or someone else could list
the entire cast of characters who appear throughout the story?

I recognize a great many of them, but there are a few that I imagine might
be recurring characters in Brazilian Disney comics only.
Ludwig von Drake
Little Helper (Gyro's)
Gyro Gearloose
Goofy
Morty & Ferdie
Huey, Dewey & Louie
April, May & June
Melody
Gilbert
Biquinho (Dugan Duck)
Fethry
Uncle Scrooge
Donald Duck
Ergmengarda (Matilda)
Clarabelle Cow
Daisy Duck
Minnie Mouse
Any others?

It seems to me that a few of the robots are familiar as well.  Especially
the little guy with the handle cranks on the side of his head.  Is he the 
robot that appeared in an old Gottfredson comic with Mickey & Goofy?

Rich



From apokill at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  4 19:49:00 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:49:00 +0300
Subject: The New Komix Web Page!
Message-ID: <20000604175000.13540.qmail@hotmail.com>

Komixfans, go and visit my new page to http://www.geocities.com/apokiller !
This page is about Komix and Don Rosa. Temporary, the page is only in Greek.
But from the end of the month will be available in English, too.
The page is under construction. Visit the address and see my announcement!
Komixfans of the world!




From cnotw at zen.it  Sun Jun  4 20:57:12 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:57:12 +0100
Subject: R: Characters from the HISTORY OF COMPUTERS?
Message-ID: <20000604200857Z41055-22830+226@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, Rich!

> 
> It seems to me that a few of the robots are familiar as well.

Yes, the one at the top right hand in the first page is CHARLIE. It comes
from a 1952's MM story drawn by Dick Moores: MM and Goofy's Mechanical
Wizard (reprinted in WDC&S # 280 (1963-4) and follow.

> Especially
> the little guy with the handle cranks on the side of his head.  Is he the
> robot that appeared in an old Gottfredson comic with Mickey & Goofy?

Yes, in Italy it was called Magneto, originally is OHM-EYE (which sounds
like "Oh, my!"). From Walsh-Gottfredson's  Science Fiction DS 10/3/1952 -
2/28/1953.

And now, one queation from me (for all...). Maybe you just spoke about this
matter and I missed your discussion...
Maybe this "computadora" very nice story has never bee translayed in Italy.
And, if it was, in wich "Mega" it was?

If not, it deserves to be translated.

Bye and thanks.

Luca 



From xephyr at jps.net  Sun Jun  4 16:41:55 2000
From: xephyr at jps.net (Rich)
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 14:41:55 +0000
Subject: Characters from the HISTORY OF COMPUTERS?
References: <md5:280A455D97BE624D4225800E9232D215>
Message-ID: <393A6AAA.C9762104@jps.net>

Luca-

> > It seems to me that a few of the robots are familiar as well.
> 
> Yes, the one at the top right hand in the first page is CHARLIE. It comes
> from a 1952's MM story drawn by Dick Moores: MM and Goofy's Mechanical
> Wizard (reprinted in WDC&S # 280 (1963-4) and follow.
> 
> > Especially the little guy with the handle cranks on the side of his head.  
> > Is he the robot that appeared in an old Gottfredson comic with Mickey & 
> > Goofy?
> 
> Yes, in Italy it was called Magneto, originally is OHM-EYE (which sounds
> like "Oh, my!"). From Walsh-Gottfredson's  Science Fiction DS 10/3/1952 -
> 2/28/1953.

The story I was thinking of is "The 'Lectro Box"
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?YM+058
But I guess that it isn't the same one.

Rich Bellacera



From apokill at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  5 00:24:41 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 01:24:41 +0300
Subject: Correction! The new Komix magazine page's address is....
Message-ID: <20000604225938.7854.qmail@hotmail.com>

The new Komix page's address is now the
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
I changed the address 'cause the name "apokiller" wasn't a "proper" one.
The page will work full in June 15th
Komixfans, come and have fun!
(The page is available only in Greek now, but I working now an English
section with many info about Komix. Standby...)







From cnotw at zen.it  Mon Jun  5 14:36:01 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:36:01 +0100
Subject: R: Characters from the HISTORY OF COMPUTERS?
Message-ID: <20000605114926Z395360-52680+36@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, Rich!

> 
> The story I was thinking of is "The 'Lectro Box"

Oh, no! It's HOOSAT FROM ANOTHER PLANET, in Italy "T e il deserto del
Nulla".

Bye!

Luca



From Alexgoe at aol.com  Mon Jun  5 14:02:21 2000
From: Alexgoe at aol.com (Alexgoe@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:02:21 EDT
Subject: Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine # 0
Message-ID: <c8.5c9facc.266cf0cd@aol.com>

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to get the Mickey Mouse Mystery Magzine # 0, it's a
new publication in Italy (since 1999) containing new adventures
with Mickey Mouse.

# 0 is titled "Anderville", the story is drawn by Giorgio Cavzzano.
Can someone get this issue for me for instance on comic fair? Of
course I'll pay your costs or I can exchange in German comics.

If you can help, please contact me: alexgoe at aol.com

Thanks in advance,

Alex Goerig



From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sun Jun  4 21:11:17 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:11:17 -0300
Subject: Hubbard's Crocodile again
Message-ID: <005a01bfce58$a96e8660$c481e6c8@fernando>


Someone knows iff the historie: 
 
"Castaway of Crocodile Island"
W OS 795-02
8 pages
Hero: Jininy Cricket, first published in 1957, 
 
has any ligation with: 
 
Old's Tom comeback-(S 66011)
and: 
Home Sick-(S 70036) ?
 
All the three was drawed by Al Hubbard.
  





From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sun Jun  4 20:46:08 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:46:08 -0300
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?A_Hist=F3ria_dos_Computadores-Characters_?=
Message-ID: <000e01bfce55$2a5f64a0$c481e6c8@fernando>

 Here a(translated)piece off a mail I send to the brazilian indexer Arthur
Faria Jr with all the characters that appear into "A Hist?ria dos
Computadores":

Apari??es: Professor Ludovico( Ludwig Von Drake), Professor Pardal(Gyro
Gearloose), Pateta(Goofy), Gilberto(Gilbert), Biquinho(Dugan Duck),
Melodia(Melody), Lal?(April), Lel?(May), Lili(June), Huguinho(Huey),
Zezinho(Dewey), Luisinho(Louie), Chiquinho(Morty), Francisquinho(Ferdie),
Tio Patinhas(Uncle Scrooge), Donald(Duck), Peninha(Fethry),
Ermengarda(Matilda), Gl?ria(Fetry's girlfriend), Clarabela(Clarabelle Cow),
Minie(Minnie), Margarida(Daisy), Vov? Donalda(Grandma Duck), Pluto,
Gavi?o(Emil Eagle), Zerildo, Carlinhos, Lampadinha(Little Helper),
Tomatinho, Talvez(Disney robots)

I think the only "real"brazilian characters are Biquinho and Gl?ria.

 There are 30 Disney different characters into this historie.

Talvez(Maybe), one off the characters, also appear into: "A M?quina
Talvez"(The Maybe Machine) B 800047. The Inducks link this historie with a
Barks historie. Someone knows something about it? I don't remenber this
Bark's historie.

Fernando Ventura!





From ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu  Sat Jun  3 19:59:45 2000
From: ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu (Donald Ault)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:59:45 -0400
Subject: The Carl Barks "Disney Legend" documentary on the Disney Channnel
Message-ID: <01bfcd85$801ea660$8aa1e380@default>

For those on the list who are not familiar with them, I should have
mentioned in my last post that *all* of the "Disney Legends" short
documentaries on the Disney Channel are about 2 and 1/2 to minutes long. The
one on Carl Barks is pretty much standard length and contains references to
(and examples of) his work in animation ("Thru the Mirror") and in the
Disney Story Department (including the introduction of Donald's nephews) as
well as in comic books.

Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551






From ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu  Sat Jun  3 18:31:09 2000
From: ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu (Donald Ault)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:31:09 -0400
Subject: The Carl Barks "Disney Legend" documentary on the Disney Channnel
Message-ID: <01bfcd79$1f9ec920$6c7fe380@default>

Regarding the Walt Disney Company's recognition of Carl Barks in his 100th
year: There has recently been a very nice short (approximately 2 and 1/2
minutes) on the Disney Channel in the "Disney Legends" series (which honors
such luminaries as Ub Iwerks) describing fairly precisely and with great
enthusiasm Carl's career as the comic book "Duck Man." It's an all too brief
but fitting tribute. Carl has seen it and is pleased with it. It's
definitely worth looking for. (I don't believe that the existence of this
short documentary on Carl's work has been noted on this Disney Comics list
before, but I apologize if it has.)

Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551






From Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com  Mon Jun  5 21:51:50 2000
From: Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com (Doukakis, Mark (NBC))
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:51:50 -0400 
Subject: Scarpa
Message-ID: <89C82A6FA163D211AFAD0001FA375A801109E9@la03nbcge.nbc.com>

You'll find a lot of Scarpa fans here :-)
Since you're Greek I guess you've already found al the "Komix" issues
reprinting Scarpa's stories, haven't you?

--
Francesco.



Actually, I've only heard of KOMIX since joining DCML last week. I've been
collecting American classic comics like U.S. and D.D. and their Adventures
comics. I'm now considering a subscription to KOMIX, but I'm concerned about
the potential damage to the books during shipping.

Mark

ps 
I don't know the proper way to write back to the mailing list so that it
continues the THREAD and responds to comments and questions.
Do I just email to thus address as I've done? If so, how should I reference
my subject and response?
Thanks

        Because e-mail can be altered electronically,
        the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.



From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Jun  5 19:54:30 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:54:30 +0200
Subject: A =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hist=F3ria?= dos Computadores-Characters 
References: <000e01bfce55$2a5f64a0$c481e6c8@fernando>
Message-ID: <393BE956.60992D76@libero.it>

Fernando Ventura wrote:

> Talvez(Maybe), one off the characters, also appear into: 
> "A M?quina Talvez"(The Maybe Machine) B 800047. The Inducks 
> link this historie with a Barks historie. Someone knows 
> something about it? I don't remenber this
> Bark's historie.

It is a funny 4-pager with Gyro, where he creates a know-it-all
machine, that seems to give just stupid answers, but when GY
verifies the machine answers are correcs goes nuts. 

  - Paolo
	
-- 
http://members.xoom.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

bah!...
(Kali' in I TL  183-A)





From lee.eddie at virgin.net  Mon Jun  5 22:04:35 2000
From: lee.eddie at virgin.net (Lee Phillips)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:04:35 +0100
Subject: Le Journal de Mickey No.1
Message-ID: <005601bfcf29$4635c140$4843fad4@lee.phillips1>

Hello,

Can anyone please help with the history and possible value of the following item....
The only thing I know is that it's in very good condition and comes from France...

'Le Journal de Mickey' 
No.1 dated 21st October 1934

Many thanks
Lee
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From eega at supereva.it  Mon Jun  5 23:43:08 2000
From: eega at supereva.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:43:08 +0200
Subject: Rob Klein on the Lady Pig
Message-ID: <393c1e1e397c3c25@twingo.tiscalinet.it> (added by
	    twingo.tiscalinet.it)

Rob Klein sent me some more interesting considerations about
the Lady Pig cover, and asked to forward them to the list, so
here goes, and thank you Rob.


Cheers

Eta Beta

==================================================================

As it is unclear from the
picture whether or not she could be one of the three little pigs in
disguise, I rather doubt that she is. I suspect that she is Patricia Pig
from the 30's cartoons and comic strips.  I realise that she may not be
as fat as she was in the 30's cartoons, but artists for MMM, Disney
merhandising or Comics (later) didn't always stay very true to the 
cartoons
or even Gottfredsson's strip style.  I'm sure they didn't use model sheets
very much in those days.  The gag writers probably just wrote a note 
saying
"girl pig in bathing suit preparing to dive".  The gags on the covers of
MMM and the early Comics and Stories were often very obscure or not very
discernable.  I'm guessing that this gag was that Mickey and his male
barnyard friends put up a crossed out the S in Swimmin' so they could go
swimming and also covering the desire of these "young" boys (as mickey was
in 1928-30) to have no "girls" around at times.
 The coordination of the artwork with the gag is very poor.  I suspect the
gag "writer" did not send a scribble drawing with his written 
"description"
of the cover.  At that time, usually the "writers" were also artists (e.g.
storyboarders).  I believe Bob Karp and the other writers could certainly
draw scribbles (I'm sure he didn't draw scribbles for his written stories,
but that should have been done for cover gags.

Rob Klein

===================================================================



From donrosa at iglou.com  Tue Jun  6 08:32:39 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:32:39 -0400
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #164 - 19 msgs
References: <200006011000.MAA11633@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00e301bfcf82$e85d7400$7fefffcc@default>

From: "Georgios Balanikas MD"
>>>>But I do
see what looks like "Ntov Pooa" mentioned on the cover ... that
>was nice of them. (That's how they spell "Don Rosa" in Greek!)

>>>The spelling of the name  Don Rosa in Greek is: Nton Rossa

I'm sure you're right, but "it's all Greek to me", y'know?  And that second
"o" in my "Pooa" is not really an "o", you don't need to tell me. The fact
is the Greek letters look like they say "Ntov Pooa", not "Nton Rossa" or
anything else. You'll have people thinking there's something wrong with my
eyes!





From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Tue Jun  6 11:28:34 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:28:34 +0100
Subject: Scarpa
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522020759B7@l04.research.kpn.com>

Hi!

> I don't know the proper way to write back to the mailing list 
> so that it
> continues the THREAD and responds to comments and questions.
> Do I just email to thus address as I've done? If so, how 
> should I reference my subject and response?

What people usually do is "reply to all" in their mail program. Then the
original mail is shown with ">" before them (like in the quote above - if
this really happens depends on your mail program). It then is important to
leave only a very short part of the original message, just enough for people
to understand what you're replying to. And add your own text after it. 8-)

--Harry.



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Tue Jun  6 11:33:20 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:33:20 +0100
Subject: Scarpa
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522020759B8@l04.research.kpn.com>

I wrote to Mark:

> Hi!
[...]
> What people usually do is "reply to all" in their mail 
> program.

And what I forgot to do, is mention the name of the original writer I'm
replying to!

8-)
--Harry.



From cnotw at zen.it  Tue Jun  6 12:48:16 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:48:16 +0100
Subject: Dave
Message-ID: <20000606094421Z473108-75028+28@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, all!

From npanag_2 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 18:32:13 2000
From: npanag_2 at yahoo.com (Nikos Panagiotop)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: greek letters
Message-ID: <20000606163213.4201.qmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com>

GREEK in LATIN

Ntov  =Don  because    n=v, NT=D
Pooa=Rosa   because  P=R ,o=o, o=s *

*this second o is not an o it is a sigma


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From gbalanik at med.auth.gr  Wed Jun  7 00:12:05 2000
From: gbalanik at med.auth.gr (Georgios Balanikas M.D.)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 01:12:05 +0300
Subject: The Greek letter sigma
Message-ID: <200006062238.BAA11246@nosema.med.auth.gr>


> I'm sure you're right, but "it's all Greek to me", y'know?  And that
second
> "o" in my "Pooa" is not really an "o", you don't need to tell me. The
fact
> is the Greek letters look like they say "Ntov Pooa", not "Nton Rossa" or
> anything else. You'll have people thinking there's something wrong with
my
> eyes!

 The third letter is a  sigma .This symbol is in use from the 9th century
a.d.The original ancient Greek letter comes from the c and it seems to
approach this shape from the 7th century a.d.Of course I am speaking for
the mentioned sigma not for the capital Greek sigma which is different.
There is also another small sigma  we use at the end of the words the
'final' s.
Georgios



From donrosa at iglou.com  Wed Jun  7 13:46:21 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:46:21 -0400
Subject: digest #170 
References: <200006071000.MAA32394@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000701bfd076$01f1b7c0$58efffcc@default>

> From: "Georgios Balanikas M.D."
>>>And that second "o" in my "Pooa" is not really an "o", you don't need to
tell me.
>>>>  The third letter is a  sigma .

D'oh! There, you still did it! I asked you *not* to tell me that, Agent 99!




From gbalanik at med.auth.gr  Wed Jun  7 18:27:51 2000
From: gbalanik at med.auth.gr (Georgios Balanikas)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:27:51 +0300
Subject: Rosa
Message-ID: <005701bfd09d$57909800$03000004@x1y6a1>


>
>D'oh! There, you still did it! I asked you *not* to tell me that, Agent 99!

...I am very sure you knew all that, but I just sent this posting to explain
the historical origin of this letter . It was not a personal disagreement
with you.

Georgios







From apokill at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  7 20:34:18 2000
From: apokill at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:34:18 +0300
Subject: The new Komix web page
Message-ID: <20000607183511.80073.qmail@hotmail.com>

As I have said before, my new Komix web page is almost ready. All the
European and U.S. visitors can visit the "English Section" which is a
section about Komix, only in English. There you will find some articles and
interviews about Don Rosa translated by Kriton Kyrimis.
My web page is:
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
Also, my "English Section" page is:
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/english.htm
And some info about Don Rosa's greek name:
In greek the name is spelling "Nton Rosa", not "Nton Rooa". Actually, the
second "o" is the greek letter "?" (the equivalent letter for -s- in Greek)
and not -o-.
And a question for Don Rosa?
Did you know that here, in Greece, you have over 70.000 fans? Yep! That's a
BIG number of fans for such a small country like Greece.
And another one:
Did you ever thought come and visit Athens?

Apostolis, Athens



From xephyr at jps.net  Thu Jun  8 08:45:12 2000
From: xephyr at jps.net (Rich)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:45:12 +0000
Subject: Donald in Tibet?
References: <200006081000.MAA02255@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <393F40F7.F06ED08F@jps.net>

Hi all-

Can I get some help please?  I've been asked to point someone to a Donald 
Duck comic.  It features a story about Donald Duck visiting the 'Dali/Dolly 
Lama' in Tibet.  Any idea which comic it is.  I think it would have been
one that was printed in the U.S., but if you know the storycode of a non-
USA reprint maybe I can find the U.S. issue via the INDUCKS.

Thanks,  Rich Bellacera



From donrosa at iglou.com  Thu Jun  8 16:29:39 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:29:39 -0400
Subject: digest #171
References: <200006081000.MAA02233@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <002401bfd155$fc0e8aa0$99ecffcc@default>

From: "Apostolis Trikourakis"
>>>And a question for Don Rosa?
Did you know that here, in Greece, you have over 70.000 fans?

Please, for the luvva mike, DON'T give them my e-mail address!

>>>Did you ever thought come and visit Athens?

Sure, and then I think I wish KOMIX would decide they need me as a guest at
a convention or for some other publicity because I can't afford such a
trip, myself! But unfortunately, I don't think that sort of thing is in
their budget, either.






From apantsi at binghamton.edu  Thu Jun  8 18:54:08 2000
From: apantsi at binghamton.edu (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:54:08 -0400
Subject: Rosa trip: Day 1
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000608125408.0079aa90@mail.binghamton.edu>

Fellow Quackeroos:

I was planning the trip to Rosa since I arrived in the U.S. last January.
Despite having met him at an event last April in Pennsylvania, I still very
much wanted to make the trip to Louiville, Kentucky and visit him at his
home there. In what follows, I'll try to describe this 4-day trip from my
point of view, being well aware that I'll leave many details out since that
4-day period was chock-full of pictures and emotions. It'll take me 3
postings to complete this "report". I'd surely could have done a much
better job at describing it had a brought a tape-recorder along or had I
been taking notes; however, I did not make that trip as a reporter, but as
a friend and an admirer of Don's work.

As it turned out, I wasn't to make the trip all by myself. I kept bugging
my good friend from Sweden, Orjan Berglund, to visit me here in the U.S.
and make the trip to Louisville together. Fortunately, at the last minute,
Orjan decided to visit me for 11 days, May 25-June 4.

I picked up Orjan from the Binghamton Greyhound bus terminal in the
afternoon of May 25. We spend Memorial Day weekend driving around the
Finger Lakes region in upstate New York, in anticipation of the Rosa trip
we had scheduled for May 30-June 2.

*DAY 1: Tuesday, May 30, 2000*---We woke up bright and early that morning
(actually I was awake since 5:00 a.m. full of excitement and anticipation).
The weather was summer-like, after having treated us with record-setting
rainfalls during the month of May. During Orjan's 11-day stay, we only saw
a few drops of rain! I was kidding him that he brought the sun along (when
he left, it started raining again!). Earlier we had studied the map
carefully and we had mapped out our route. From Binghamton we'd take route
17 and drive west, then take interstate 90 and cross into Pennsylvania
first and then into Ohio. At Clevelend, we'd take interstate 71 that would
take us all the way to Louisville. On the map the distance looked short!!!

We departed Binghamton at 8:00 a.m. and started our long drive to
Louisville on my rented Toyota Camry 1990. The first leg of our trip until
we reached Erie, Pennsylvania, was probably the most interesting in terms
of scenery with lots of rolling hills. After we passed Cleveland, Ohio, we
made a stop around 3:00 p.m. and had lunch at a fast food place. An
interesting site in that joint was a group of Amish people (they had to be
modern Amish, since they were using automobiles!). 

After we got back on the road, we realized that we still had quite a bit of
driving to do before reaching Louisville. We calculated the total distance
to be ~700 miles, and we had just passed the mid-point! We tried to pep
ourselves up thinking of all the things we'd see once at Rosa's place--plus
we were not really in any big hurry, since we had planned to spend the
night at a motel outside of Louisville. 300 miles later, and after driving
thru the cities of Columbus and Cincinnati, Ohio, we stopped for the night
at a small town called Carrolton, ~40 miles from Louisville. After settling
at our room at a Day's Inn, we went to a nearby Kentucky Fried Chicken,
picked up dinner to go, and went back to our room to enjoy our chicken
watching an NBA game between the L.A. Lakers and the Portland Trailblazers!
We fell asleep knowing that the next day would be "THE DAY"!

(To be continued.......)

Cheers,

Archontis




------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor 
Department of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York 13902
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
fax: (607)777-2681
------------------------------



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  8 19:36:34 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:36:34 +0300
Subject: My New E-Mail Address
Message-ID: <20000608173739.20157.qmail@hotmail.com>

I changed my e-mail address to komix43 at hotmail.com 
Apostolis



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Fri Jun  9 06:00:10 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:00:10 +0200
Subject: Hoooray!
Message-ID: <200006090354.FAA83554@mail.mira.dk>

Hi all!
Happy 66th jubilee to everyone's Donald Duck!
Quakc Quack Quack etc. 

Yours
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Fri Jun  9 16:27:07 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:27:07 +0200 
Subject: New Italian edition of Lo$
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E23923F5@GSPSVR>

Some time ago, there was a thread on this mailing list about the reprints of
Don's "Life of $crooge" saga. 
Well, a new edition of Lo$ has been published in Italy a couple of weeks
ago... it's part of a series of comics that are distributed both on the
newsstands *and* in the bookshops (usually, they make the Italian
best-seller's list, too...).

The book's title is "Paperdinastia: la grande storia dei paperi piu' famosi
del mondo" ("Duckdynasty: the great history of the world's most famous
ducks") (Why "duck*S*", you might ask ? Who knows... ;-)). Its 388 pages
reprint the original 12 chapters, plus 6 other stories: "Of Ducks and Dimes
and Destinies", "The Cowboy-Captain of the Cutty Sark", "The Vigilante of
Pizen Bluff", "The Dutchman's Secret", "Hearts of the Yukon", and "Last Sled
to Dawson". 
Each story has a short introduction, providing a few facts and the Barks
references. It looks like these intros are just short summaries of the ones
which were used - a few years ago - for the first Italian reprint of the Lo$
in a single volume.
They just added a couple of pages introducing the extra chapters - BTW, is
"Last Sled to Dawson" actually considered as a chapter? In the book, it's
labelled as "chapter 9b"...
The book contains also Don's "Duck Family Tree", and an index of the names
of the characters appearing in the saga. Technical data: softcover, Lit.
16,900 (about $ 8). 

I'll take a look at the best-sellers' charts, in the upcoming weeks, and
keep you informed... ;-)

Ciao,
Armando
 



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  9 16:55:41 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:55:41 +0300
Subject: New Italian Edition of Lo$
Message-ID: <20000609145652.66152.qmail@hotmail.com>

"Last Sled for Dawson" as a Lo$ chapter? I don't thing so. You see, "Last
Sled" is like "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink". Both stories have
mentions to the past but neither "last Sled" nor "Triple Distelfink" are
something like Lo$. Both stories take place not in the past but in our days
(or, as Don says "In 1967"). This is a part from a Don's interview Komix did
last February and is about the "Triple Distelfink":

KOMIX: You had said that you are not going to create another kind of Life
and Times for another character apart from uncle Scrooge. Have you changed
your mind?

ROSA: But the Triple Distelfink is only one story, not a series of chapters
as is The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck. In addition, this is a memory
recalled by Gladstone; the story does not take place entirely in the past. I
may do the same for Donald at some point. It will have nothing to do with
the--by now fifteen--chapters of the Life and Times.

KOMIX: How different are these two cases?

ROSA: The Life and Times shows the changes in uncle Scrooge during his life,
how he became the hero he is today. On the other hand, the Triple Distelfink
takes place today. Besides, when I make a story with Donald or Gladstone, I
don't have the feeling of dealing with a character as complex as Scrooge
McDuck.
Do you understand now, Armando?
Cheers
Apostolis




From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Jun  9 18:34:21 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:34:21 +0100
Subject: New Italian Edition of Lo$
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075A07@l04.research.kpn.com>

Apostolis Trikourakis:

> "Last Sled [to] Dawson" as a Lo$ chapter? I don't thin[k] so.

In this case, it's up to the editors to decide how they advertise a story.
This Dawson story was also in the Lo$ album series in Holland, so Italy is
not the only one...

Don did not intend the Dawson story to be part of Lo$ (he couldn't at the
time he wrote that story, since that's years before Lo$ existed). But he
didn't intend "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" to be part of Lo$ either.
Still, most people refer to that story as being "chapter 0".

> Both stories take place not in the past 
> but in our days (or, as Don says "In 1967").

Not 1967. Some important character would be dead by 1967, in Don's vision of
the Duck world.

BTW, the Cutty Sark story, and other "extra life of Scrooge chapters", are
also taking place in the present (1957 or so), with (rather large)
flash-backs.

> Do you understand now, Armando?

This sounds very patronising.
Do - you - understand - what - I'm - saying, - Apostolis?

--Harry.



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 10 00:31:08 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 01:31:08 +0300
Subject: New Italian Edition of Lo$
Message-ID: <20000609223224.63351.qmail@hotmail.com>

Harry:

>In this case, it's up to the editors to decide how they advertise a story.

I think you have right to that. But "Last Sled" isn't a Lo$ chapter for
sure.

>But he didn't intend "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" to be part of Lo$
either. Still, most people refer to that story as being "chapter 0".

Not Exactly. You see, Don said in an interview (again) that "Of Ducks, Dimes
and Destinies" is actually the 0 chapter. He didn't say anything about "Last
Sled".

>Not 1967.

Actually the correct year is...1966. That year Carl Barks stop drawing
ducks. So, all the stories are taken place that year (or maybe some years
before)

Apostolis Trikourakis




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 10 12:04:16 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:04:16 +0300
Subject: Digest #171
Message-ID: <20000610100518.19369.qmail@hotmail.com>

>>>Please, for the luvva mike, DON'T give them my e-mail address!

Actually, the number of your greek fans is over 70.000! The Komix's fans is
over 100.000 I think. And they know your e-mail address, too! (from both
Komix and my page).
The latest story of you I read was "The Last Lord of Eldorado" story.

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens



From donrosa at iglou.com  Sat Jun 10 13:43:44 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 07:43:44 -0400
Subject: digest 1 #173 ...new Italian "Lo$"???
References: <200006101000.MAA29388@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001201bfd2d1$3963c1a0$eceeffcc@default>

My word... an entire Digest about this new Italian Rosa "Lo$" book! And I
did not even know it existed (or was even planned) until Archontis
mentioned something about it during his visit, obviously under the
assumption that I must certainly know all about an entire book being
published that contained only my work. No, that's not how the "Disney
system" works. I never knew a thing about it. Now I'm trying hard just to
see if there's a way I can BUY a copy for myself! Pretty strange, eh? Eh,
I'm used to it by now.
No, "Last Sled to Dawson" is not a "Lo$" story. It simply has a flashback
in it, but all the important parts are set in the "present". And when I did
that story, I had no clue that I would be doing the "Lo$" about 5 years
later. "Lo$" stories either take place entirely in the past or are
introduced by a very brief framing sequence to reestablish for new readers
that this is an "untold story" from an earlier period.
But why didn't someone wonder why "The Dutchman's Secret" is in that book?
It's not a "Lo$" story in the very least way! It has no flashbacks to
$crooge's early life at all, not even a one-panel one! How do the editors
explain their inclusion of that one? (Well, even if I ever get a copy of
the book, I won't know that since my papa never taught me Italian.)
And Apostolis -- why do you keep insisting that I say my stories take place
in 1967 or 1966? I have never told anyone that! I say they take place in a
jumble of years in the mid 1950s. And I also regard Barks' stories, even
the later ones, to be set in this 1950's swirl. (Don't bother to
disagree -- it's simply how I explain my stories to myself. Others can make
their own decision.) But I have never told anyone that my stories are from
"1967".






From donrosa at iglou.com  Sat Jun 10 14:01:37 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:01:37 -0400
Subject: digest #173 
References: <200006101000.MAA29388@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001a01bfd2d3$c252c540$eceeffcc@default>

Oops. I did not address the matter of "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies".
No, that was not originally a "Lo$" chapter, either. It was done entirely
before I decided to do the "Lo$", then Egmont delayed its publication until
after the entire "Lo$" had appeared. When Gladstone used it, I (or
somebody, I hope it was moi) suggested we call it "chapter 0" as that was a
corny marketing technique in American comics at the time. And the story has
many similarities with a "Lo$" story, but it is different.
The new "Lo$" chapters -- I don't really see them as flashbacks from the
"present" as Harry suggests, even though that's how I set them up. If you
look at the story contained in the "flashbacks", there are parts of it that
$crooge could not be telling, parts that he could not have known. I'm not
sure how to explain how I view those tales. I am sorta telling the *full*
version of the events that $crooge is telling his nephews his version of
off in some other corner of time and space. I wanted to do those new "Lo$"s
just like the original 12 chapters and leap right into the past in the
opening panel. But the editors suggested that a modern framing sequence was
needed, and they not only were probably right, but I now am enjoying the
framing sequence by using it to have $crooge or Donald comment on the
"untold tale" or as a springboard into another story as I did into "The
Dutchman's Secret" (which is the only thread of a link that story has with
the "Lo$").
But now I must dash! I have some preparations to make for a lil' dinner
party I'm giving tonight here at my place for friends Mike Kaluta, William
Stout and Mark Schultz who are all in Louisville for a model-makers'
convention. (I never said I was not a name-dropper!)




From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sat Jun 10 15:16:27 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:16:27 +0200
Subject: re 173 - Armando, Apostolis,Harry
Message-ID: <200006101311.PAA44968@mail.mira.dk>

Armando:
> The book contains also Don's "Duck Family Tree", and an index of the
names
> of the characters appearing in the saga. 
Hello! You didn't tell me that:-) I look even more forward to getting
the book now:-)
(It's send)

They called the last sled story 9b? their own invention...

Apostolis
> "Last Sled for Dawson" as a Lo$ chapter? I don't thing so. You see,
"Last
> Sled" is like "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink".
I don't really think there's much comparison, between these two great
stories. Except for the flashbacking I mean. 

> Both stories have
> mentions to the past but neither "last Sled" nor "Triple Distelfink"
are
> something like Lo$. Both stories take place not in the past but in
our days
> (or, as Don says "In 1967"). 
That's not a paranthesis... And Don doesn't say that - Harry is right.
Don would say in the 50'es as barks drew his best stories in that
period and Don read the magazione in this period. 1967 was the year
Scrooge is supposed to die in Don's stories, as he is a human in Don's
comics, and they can't live much longer than that, and Ducks can't at
all. 
We will possibly never see Scrooge dead's day, we have only seen that
imaginative scene where Daisy,Donald, Huey,Dewey and Louie stand at his
grave (Look at duckhunt's cover-page). The drawing was done for a
german fanzine telling artists to do a drawing on the sentence:
Whjatever happened to Scrooge?

1957 is more like it, or maybe earlier. Last Sked to Dawson in the
non-flashback-scenes takes places only a few years after Barks' Back to
Klondike, isn't that right?

HARRY
> In this case, it's up to the editors to decide how they advertise a
story.
> This Dawson story was also in the Lo$ album series in Holland, so
Italy is
> not the only one...
Hey, why didn't I get that album when I was in Holland and got all the
other Lo$-albums.. I guess I didn't find it in a shop, and that I
didn't realize its being part of the saga in the editors' mind. 
 
> Not 1967. Some important character would be dead by 1967, in Don's
vision of
> the Duck world.
Right
 
Apostolis
> Not Exactly. You see, Don said in an interview (again) that "Of
Ducks, Dimes
> and Destinies" is actually the 0 chapter. He didn't say anything
about "Last
> Sled".
I see. But the story shows something that they would want to show in
the book, so I understand them. BTW I hope the editors in italy didn't
write something like: complete, all chapters or something... cause that
wont be true for a long time. We just recently heard from Don here that
he's doing another chapter (10B). Will all the publishers publish
another book then? At least they should publish the story, now that
they've puiblished all the others. And don't come up with this again,
about bad ratings on new Lo$-stories. I don't believe it. Every true
Rosa-fan maybe was also a completist the day the issue with the note to
send in and rate was in the mag, so they kept it... I do that, but I
see that I have be carefull. 

> Actually the correct year is...1966. That year Carl Barks stop
drawing
> ducks. So, all the stories are taken place that year (or maybe some
years
> before)
Nah... (Honk! :-)) Barks did stop in 1967, you got that right. some of
the last Scrooge stories was written there, or am I wrong? In any case
it's 1968 in DK, as the last US-story by the duck man was published
that year here... 
Some years? at least 10 or so, and that's not some years, that's half
of my lifetime for example! 
Don's stories at least, take place from 1877 (published stories) to the
50'es. or are any of you stories supposed to take place in the 60'es
Don? 

AC


> 
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> 
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From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Sat Jun 10 15:42:51 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:42:51 +0700
Subject: not-a-chapter chapter???
References: <200006101000.MAA29380@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00d601bfd2e1$d1a21c40$e9189eca@kulim>

> From: Botto Armando <Armando.Botto at elsag.it>
> The book's title is "Paperdinastia: la grande storia dei paperi piu'
famosi
> del mondo" ("Duckdynasty: the great history of the world's most famous
> ducks") (Why "duck*S*", you might ask ? Who knows... ;-)). Its 388 pages
> reprint the original 12 chapters, plus 6 other stories: "Of Ducks and
Dimes
> and Destinies", "The Cowboy-Captain of the Cutty Sark", "The Vigilante of
> Pizen Bluff", "The Dutchman's Secret", "Hearts of the Yukon", and "Last
Sled
> to Dawson".
> The book contains also Don's "Duck Family Tree", and an index of the names
> of the characters appearing in the saga. Technical data: softcover, Lit.
> 16,900 (about $ 8).
Is there anyone from Italy that would like to help me get my greasy hands on
that lovely book? I'll pay or trade with whatever you like. Please contact
me if there's anyone who can help me. Thanks in advance.

> From: "Apostolis Trikourakis" <komix43 at hotmail.com>
> "Last Sled for Dawson" as a Lo$ chapter? I don't thing so.
> From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
> In this case, it's up to the editors to decide how they advertise a story.
> This Dawson story was also in the Lo$ album series in Holland, so Italy is
> not the only one...
> >But he didn't intend "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" to be part of Lo$
> either. Still, most people refer to that story as being "chapter 0".
> Not Exactly. You see, Don said in an interview (again) that "Of Ducks,
Dimes
> and Destinies" is actually the 0 chapter. He didn't say anything about
"Last
> Sled".
Ummm, can i also express my subjective opinion? Just a guess though, perhaps
Don himself can clarify all this mess. i believe that this flashback thing
is one way to achieve the actually-meant-for-serials-episode to fit better
to be both a one-shot story and a part of the chapters. i can't imagine how
after 6 months the Lo$ 12
chapters were printed, they print another chapter, ex: 9b with no flashback,
you see that would create a confusion and may even driven those first
time-readers crazy looking for the chapter 10 in the next issues. As you
know there're lotsa first time readers everyday, imagine me a newbie reading
an Uncle Scrooge story for the first time and reading the 9b story, and
liked it a lot but finds a confusing situation where i definitely can't find
the next episodes in the next issues, i may end up despise the Uncle Scrooge
story. Perhaps i'm not so good at English language, i'm still having problem
to express my opinion in short sentences. Oh well.

Cheers,
Arie Fachrisal who haven't read any of the "additional chapters" yet except
for the Duck, Dime, Destinies and Cutty Sark.









From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 10 15:56:18 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:56:18 +0300
Subject: New Italian Edition of Lo$
Message-ID: <20000610135717.85130.qmail@hotmail.com>

>>>No, "Last Sled to Dawson" is not a "Lo$" story.

That's my opinion too. Like "The Triple Distelfink", "Last Sled" isn't a Lo$
chapter 'cause take place in "present". Both stories have some flashbacks
but neither "Triple Distelfink" nor "Last Sled" stories take place in the
past.

>>>But why didn't someone wonder why "The Dutchman's Secret" is in that
book?

That's "inexplicable"!!!

>>>why do you keep insisting that I say my stories take place in 1967 or
1966? I have never told anyone that!

Ooops! Sorry about all that. A week ago, I saw in D.U.C.K.hunt a panel with
your sign which was about U.$. "pass away". In the grave I saw the date
"1867-1967: Fortuna Favet Fortibus" (which means "Fate (Luck) helps the
darings", or something like that). It was 1967 when Barks stop drawing
comics. So. I thought that all the stories take place *before* that year.
That;s my fault, sorry again!

>>>But now I must dash! I have some preparations to make for a lil' dinner
party I'm giving tonight here at my place for friends Mike Kaluta, William
Stout and Mark Schultz who are all in Louisville for a model-makers'
convention. (I never said I was not a name-dropper!)

Dinner party, eh? Try to invite all us in DCML!!!

Again, a question for you: What's your plans about Lo$? Are you going to
make many new chapters like "The Cowboy Captain of Cutty Surk"?

Apostolis from the incredible hot and summer Athens!




From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Sat Jun 10 16:17:53 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:17:53 +0700
Subject: not-a-chapter chapter???
Message-ID: <002701bfd2e6$dbce3aa0$fb189eca@kulim>

> Ummm, can i also express my subjective opinion? Just a guess though,
perhaps
> Don himself can clarify all this mess. i believe that this flashback thing
> is one way to achieve the actually-meant-for-serials-episode to fit better
> to be both a one-shot story and a part of the chapters.

Ups, just read a little more careful and i noticed that the real problem was
the Last Sled which i haven't read yet, so my previous mail was a bit
off-course and unrelated.

Best,
Arie Fachrisal
Just goes to show how slowly my brain is to capture the actual meaning of
those English sentences :-)




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 10 16:13:50 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:13:50 +0300
Subject: The New Komix Web Page almost Ready!
Message-ID: <20000610141450.7970.qmail@hotmail.com>

My page about Komix magazine is almost ready! Duck and Komix fans, go to
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage  (in Greek) or
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/english.htm (in English)!
Learn about Komix, Don Rosa, visit my guestbook and my forum, read all the
latest news and do much more!

Apostolis!



From johannes.promann at gmx.de  Sat Jun 10 18:09:21 2000
From: johannes.promann at gmx.de (Johannes Promann)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:09:21 +0200
Subject: AW: DCML digest, Vol 1 #173 - 4 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200006101000.MAA29396@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <NDBBLPNNALCKCAPIOALKEEOOCAAA.johannes.promann@gmx.de>

Apostolis Trikourakis:

>>Not 1967.

>Actually the correct year is...1966. That year Carl Barks stop drawing
>ducks. So, all the stories are taken place that year (or maybe some years
>before)

In his introduc(k)tion for his German album series Don Rosa said:

[Issue 20, introduction for The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff]
... Geschichte, die im Entenhausen unserer Tage spielt (damit ist in meinen
Geschichten das Entenhausen der 50er Jahre gemeint) ...
re-translated:
... story, who is taken place in duckburg of today (this is in my stories
the duckburg of the fifties) ...







From danshane at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun  8 22:22:01 2000
From: danshane at bellsouth.net (Dan Shane)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 16:22:01 -0400
Subject: $crooge has moved...
Message-ID: <006601bfd187$b5e5a720$54c20e0c@nant006>

I have moved to a new Internet Service provider, and the $crooge McDuck Page
has moved with me.  Because I have severed all ties with the old ISP, there
is no redirector on the old site, so you may wish to pass around the new
address:

http://personal.sdf.bellsouth.net/~danshane/scroopage/scroohome.htm

Dan Shane (danshane at bellsouth.net)








From shaun at moebiusdesign.co.nz  Sat Jun 10 07:21:23 2000
From: shaun at moebiusdesign.co.nz (Shaun Craill)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:21:23 +1200
Subject: Journeys of a Disney Comic
Message-ID: <fc.000f512d0001b68c000f512d0001b68c.1b694@dt.co.nz>

Dear All,

I received the first new Disney comic in English I have seen for over a
year on Friday, Gladstones WDC 623.  It was like Christmas in the middle
of the year!  The incredible thing was that it was posted 58 weeks ago!

There has been a bit or correspondence between myself and Gladstone about
this missing comic over the last year, with Gladstone finally saying that
they will not send out any more replacements to an address which clearly
wasn't any good.

Funny thing was that the comic I received was addressed without a city
location and was addressed to Australia when I live in a completely
different country; New Zealand!  This comic has travelled to a great many
places to get to me.  It has been to the states of New South Wales,
Queensland, Northern Territories, South Australia, Western Australia,
Victoria and Tasmania.

On the positive side I can report that the packaging Gladstone uses is
absolute top quality.  The comic was in very good condition considering
the length of time it has been in the postal system.

Should any of the other extra copies of this comic Gladstone tried to send
to me eventually turn up I will return them to Gladstone, maybe with an
atlas...





From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sat Jun 10 22:33:41 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:33:41 -0300
Subject: A Picture of Igayara and me!
Message-ID: <000401bfd31b$2ad5dde0$ae76d3c8@fernando>

Into the home of the site www.igayara.com.br you can see a picture off me
with Waldir Igayara, the second Disney drawer in Brazil. In his site there
are some covers he did for the "Z? Carioca"in his time. There are also
pictures and work of Wilson Magalh?es, one of the best brazilian Disney
inkers. Arthur Faria and I are indexing the work of him and Igayara's. The
site is in portugues, but it is very simple. So I think nobody will have
problems to look at it. Igayara has now a School of Drawing in S?o Paulo,
after working 25 years to Abril. He is the creator of the Fethry's nephew
Biquinho. Take a look, people!

Fernando Ventura!
"That hate see pictures of himself! ARGH!"





From starback at ling.uu.se  Sun Jun 11 13:56:22 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 13:56:22 +0200
Subject: Web news
Message-ID: <qzya4cmnx5.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>

Just some news on the DCML pages at <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/>.
(I thought that if I send something like this out now and then that
will force me to make sure there are some news. :-)

* The Italian part of the Inducks is updated.

* I have fixed a long-standing bug regarding contents listing of Western
issues.  Now pages like
<http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/issue?us-DD+42>
(for DD 42) work again.

* Branko Collin who has written Dutch Disney comics has sent
a short bio of himself:  It's at
<http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/branko-collin.html>

This is excellent, and I urge other Disney comics writers and artists
who frequent this list to send similar presentations of themselves for
the web pages.  Branko hasn't done many stories for Disney, but that
is no reason to abstain.

New pages on other writers and artists and updates to the ones that
already exist are of course appreciated as well!

Last month there were 32045 hits to the creator part of the DCML
pages, that is 43 each hour on average.  Unfortunately many of those
are to pages with very little information.  Please contribute!
Some artists with many stories but almost no information on the DCML
web pages are Vicar, Jack Bradbury, Manuel Gonzales, Giuseppe Perego,
Al Hubbard, Massimo De Vita, and Pete Alvarado.  Any takers?  (For
those or anyone else?)
See <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/>.

-- 
Per Starback <starback at ling.uu.se> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html>
 "Life is but a gamble!  Let flipism chart your ramble!"



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jun 11 13:03:29 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:03:29 +0200
Subject: 174  Don, Apostolis, Arie
Message-ID: <200006111541.RAA47721@mail.mira.dk>

Apostolis

> Actually, the number of your greek fans is over 70.000! The Komix's
fans is
> over 100.000 I think. And they know your e-mail address, too! (from
both
> Komix and my page).
Gosh... let's hope they don't write in greak...

> The latest story of you I read was "The Last Lord of Eldorado" story.
 
> Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens

DON
> My word... an entire Digest about this new Italian Rosa "Lo$" book!
And I
> did not even know it existed (or was even planned) until Archontis
> mentioned something about it during his visit, obviously under the
> assumption that I must certainly know all about an entire book being
> published that contained only my work. No, that's not how the "Disney
> system" works. I never knew a thing about it. Now I'm trying hard
just to
> see if there's a way I can BUY a copy for myself! Pretty strange, eh?
Eh,
> I'm used to it by now.
I should think Armando who got the book for me, should be able to find
a copy for the author himself and for our Indonesian member:-) Huh,
Armando?


> But why didn't someone wonder why "The Dutchman's Secret" is in that
book?
> It's not a "Lo$" story in the very least way! It has no flashbacks to
> $crooge's early life at all, not even a one-panel one! How do the
editors
> explain their inclusion of that one? (Well, even if I ever get a copy
of
> the book, I won't know that since my papa never taught me Italian.)
I could think of a reason. But it doesn't do you any good that they
print an extra story as they don't give you credits per sold book (not
disney policy I guess...) 
The reason would be not to make the readers mad, they see in the ending
of your  Pizen Bluff that there will be a follow-up to that Dutchman,
and they wont be satisfied with the story being in some other
publication. So it's in the book. (and that was the only possible
reason as you point out in your following mail to the list)

Actually it's also quite smart of you, seen from the egmont reader's
point of wiev to include the Chevalier Noir in the Attaaaaaack story,
and to make a Lo$ B chapter for Picsou. If egmont doesn't publish those
stories the readers will be disappointed or even mad. At least if they
know about those two stories. I'll try to see to it that they will.
Anyway they will at some point start to wonder about the expanding lack
of new Rosa stories... We're at least getting used to one every half
year or so, in the dansih mag. But maybe they'll publish Treasure under
Glass telling it's a new story? I hope not, but anyway they will
publsih the story. 


Arie Fachrisal
Sounds extemely confused today :-))

I think I know what you mean (?!) But 9b doesn't exist, as i said the
italian may have made it up. What is coming up is chapter 10b with
Theodore Roosevelt at the panama channel, working with Scrooge as Don
explained to us recently. And yes, if Don sometimes decides to say:
This is the last chapter of Lo$ maybe we will see a book with "all"
chapters. 
Allready in 1997 when they printed the Lo$-book in DK and other
countries, they showed sopme panels from Pizen Bluff-story. telling it
could be seen in this and that weekly. If I hadn't coincientally been a
subscriber and had that weekly, I would had been pissed of and would
have complained. 

I am getting this italian book now, but I don't know if I would like a
danish Lo$ all chapters collected. I'd rather see a Rosa all works
collected. That would be a treath to the many new readers, as Arie
mentions them. 
I would then hope that some egmont fellow would have it in his mind to
send the books to Don himself, or it would become a bit expensive for
some fan, maybe me. 
(We're in what germans call konjubnktiv tense right now, being very far
out in the if ifs...)

> That's "inexplicable"!!!
One explicable in one way at least. 
 
> I thought that all the stories take place *before* that year.
> That;s my fault, sorry again!
They do happen before that year, but no in the year. 
 
> Again, a question for you: What's your plans about Lo$? Are you going
to
> make many new chapters like "The Cowboy Captain of Cutty Surk"?
LOL:-) Excuse me for laughing a lot but Cutty Surk sounds a bit too
funny in danish... anyway it's spelled Sark (why not Shark, I wonder)
but they might pronounce it surk
 




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 11 19:41:46 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:41:46 +0300
Subject: 174 Don, Apostolis, Arie
Message-ID: <20000611174258.6586.qmail@hotmail.com>

>>>Excuse me for laughing a lot but Cutty Surk sounds a bit too
funny in danish... anyway it's spelled Sark (why not Shark, I wonder)
but they might pronounce it surk.

Well, it's funny! But also funny is that:
"Gosh... let's hope they don't write in greak..." The correct is "greek"!
:-)
Actually, 70.000 fans is not a "huge" number. Don's fans are millions...

>>>They do happen before that year, but no in the year.

That's a relief!






From ridout5 at erols.com  Mon Jun 12 04:18:06 2000
From: ridout5 at erols.com (Ridout)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:18:06 -0400
Subject: don's dinner party...
References: <200006111000.MAA24483@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000901bfd414$728f6da0$d77dfea9@ridout5>

>But now I must dash! I have some preparations to make for a lil' dinner
>party I'm giving tonight here at my place for friends Mike Kaluta, William
>Stout and Mark Schultz who are all in Louisville for a model-makers'
>convention. (I never said I was not a name-dropper!)

Cool! Tell William Stout and Mark Schultz that they have a very big fan on
the DCML list. William's artwork is *awesome* and I really love 'Cadillacs
and Dinosaurs'....
Give us a report on how it went!

rebecca







From donrosa at iglou.com  Mon Jun 12 14:19:33 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:19:33 -0400
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #175 - 4 msgs
References: <200006121000.MAA17079@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001d01bfd468$7f2e6ee0$c7efffcc@default>

> From: "Ridout"
> Subject: Re: don's dinner party...
> Give us a report on how it went!

You're embarrassing me! The Bad Fairy got me for being a shameless
namedropper.
This was a gathering I tried to slap together in less than 24 hours, which
was why I had to dash the other day to continue with preparations. These
last-minute ideas never work out. Kaluta I have known for 25 years since he
was a guest at a con I held in 1975! I was a guest with Stout at a small
two-guest con a few years back, and it was very slow so we had lots of chat
time. Actually, Shultz I don't know personally, but I am a big fan of his
as I have always been of the other two..
However, they ended up NOT visiting me here! It turned out the
local modeller convention had Stout and Shultz busy during that evening,
the
friends that Kaluta was traveling with had a small child they had not
warned me about (not "welcome" here, and they were used to that), Kaluta's
sponsor was also tied up at the con site, and the temperature was 95 and we
would have had to sit inside. He was still able to come, but I would have
been tearing him away from an entire convention full of friends and people
wanting to see him as well as the people (friends of mine) who had paid for
his visit to Louisville! I decided that seemed rude and selfish of me, so I
called it off and he and I decided that was the best move. (I've been
trying to have dinner with him for 25 years! 25 years ago I gave a helper
some $ and sent them off to a nice restaurant -- I was too busy!)
So we decided to try it again next year, and that will be even better. Dave
Stevens (who used to be a fellow fanzine contributor back in the 70's) told
me he might be at that show and would join the party. What a group that
would be! These are all the artists whose work I love the most! (Everyone
naturally assumes I'm a "funny animal" art lover, which is not the case at
all. I am an EC/horror/SF comics fan... who happens to think the only thing
better is an adventure/comedy Duck story by Mr.Barks.)






From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Mon Jun 12 19:07:16 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:07:16 +0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #175 - 4 msgs
References: <200006121000.MAA17066@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <002301bfd490$cf5fbb80$ef189eca@kulim>

> From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
> I should think Armando who got the book for me, should be able to find
> a copy for the author himself and for our Indonesian member:-) Huh,
> Armando?
Thank you very much for the suggestion but Armando may skip to send the book
for me as Eta Beta have bought the book for me. Thanks AC for his good
intention.

> Arie Fachrisal
> Sounds extemely confused today :-))
You got that right, with all the tests coming which will starts tomorrow and
the everyday live broadcaast of eveery match in Euro2000, it'll be two hell
of weeks for me :-)

> From: "Apostolis Trikourakis" <komix43 at hotmail.com>
> Actually, 70.000 fans is not a "huge" number. Don's fans are millions...
in my country that figures is huge since the overall regular Disney weeklies
only sold around 60,000 issues per week. And that's going on in a
200million+ people-populated archipelago country. Go figure.

Best,
Arie Fachrisal who just missed watching all the starting matches of Euro2K
:-(




From apantsi at binghamton.edu  Mon Jun 12 18:58:32 2000
From: apantsi at binghamton.edu (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:58:32 -0400
Subject: Rosa Trip: Day 2
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000612125832.007a3a50@mail.binghamton.edu>

Fellow Quackeroos:

My first posting on the "Rosa trip" had ended with "as evening shadows
fell" at a Day's Inn in Carrollton, ~40 miles from Louisville, KY.

*DAY 2: Wednesday, May 31, 2000*: After a tiresome first day of near
continuous driving, we woke up ~8:00 a.m. and went to have breakfast.
Outside it was warm and muggy and the forecast for the next 2 days was for
more of the same: humid and hot (~90 F!). 

When we returned to our motel room we gave Don a call and told him of our
exact location and that we'd be at his place in ~1 hour. A few days earlier
Don had faxed me a "map to Rosa" (which I think is a "collector's item" in
itself!). Using that map it was a piece of cake to find his place. After
getting off interstate 71 and driving a few winding and curvey miles
passing a "scenic ovelook", a little creek, a dude ranch, and the "famous"
'echo trail' (!), a right turn took us to Dawson Hill road! A "landmark"
before reaching Don's house was "Ferg's Mower Repair", with Ferg looking
exactly like Don had caricatured him on the map! (big, flappy ears!). One
more creek, one more turn and...there it was! The gate was open and we
drove in the long driveway to Don's house. 

We parked in front of the house and got out. Shortly thereafter Don came
out to greet us and offered us cool ginger-ale. He was wearing shorts and a
"Rosa" t-shirt, from a Rosa-eatery in Italy. Before anything else he went
afoot to close the gate so as to let his 3 basset houns roam free in his
estate.

When he returned he introduced us first to his 3 basset hounds: Daisy,
Chloe, and Suki. The first rule we learned in petting them was the
following: we could pet Chloe and Suki at any time, but we could pet Daisy
only in the absence of the other two! Failure to do so would jeopardize the
well-being of Chloe and Suki in the claws of Daisy!

Initially we had a brief tour of the house (of wooden, rustic style) and
its immediate surroundings. Don's estate comprises of ~10 hectares of land,
with the house located approximately in the center of the property. There's
a huge lawn northwest of the house with a small pond at its end. There's a
meadow east of the house with a barn and garden. To the west, southwest,
and northeast, there's forested area, with a field at the very southwestern
part. After getting a first glimpse of that area I fully realized what Don
had meant when writing of needing so much time to mow the lawn!

We were then introduced to Gyro, the Rosas' cockatoo! Gyro started
screaming (boy, he can *really* scream!) once he realized there were
visitors in the house, wanting to come out of his cage and be petted!
However, Don didn't do that until later on.

After catching our breath and with a cool glass of ginger-ale in our hands,
we visited the "Expo center" (a small barn where the old owner would store
his car collection!). In the "Expo" Don currently keeps his own car
"collection", i.e. his "famous" (I had first seen it in an old "Captain
Kentucky" panel) 1948 Dodge that he still uses, albeit not that often, and
a 1938 Nash Lafayette of which we only caught a glimpse. Don promised us
he'd take us on a ride on his Dodge the next day!

We then proceeded to visit the garden which is right behind the barn. Don
and his wife Ann (who was attending a teaching seminar all that week and
would be back in the afternoon) raise all kinds of vegetables and Don
showed us the green onions we'd later have at dinner! After tip-toeing thru
the garden we walked along the meadow which was full of wild flowers Don
had planted. Don would show us and name all the different types of wild
flowers we'd meet. It was hot, Don was wearing a hat to avoid the
horse-flies while Orjan and I braved the hot sun uncovered despite Don's
offer to put something on. When we returned to the house we (and especially
I) were sweating and were desparate in need of a cool place to sit down!

What was the coolest room in the house? Well,...., the famous "comics
vault"! We descented down the stairs and got inside the room we had read
about so many times in the past. It's a relatively small room, with
wall-to-wall comic-book "carpeting"! Rows of metal shelfs were loaded with
boxes full of old comic books, nicely arranged by type and labeled by year.
The first thing we saw was his "TV Guide" collection. Don asked me if I
wanted to check what was on American TV the night I was born. I said sure,
and after uttering my birthdate (October 26, 1961), Don pulled out the
relevant issue of "TV Guide" and we checked the TV listings!

Of course, we could have spend days in there, not mere hours! We asked to
see some Dell Disneys (I asked for the first Uncle Scrooge issues and Orjan
for the early WDC&S). I asked Don whether he'd be interested in ever
selling his huge collection, and he replied that he'd do it only to someone
who'd be interested in buying the entire set of a series; he wouldn't want
to sell issues individually because of the time he has spent in completing
a collection. 

While we were there, we also asked to see his pre-Disney work which he
keeps in a file of its own. Before we left the room we took a number of
pictures holding various comics in our hands. (Hey, if you can't boast with
proof to other people about things like these, what good is it? :-)))

It was afternoon already and after exiting the comics vault we thought that
visiting Don's studio would be a nice "encore"! One enters Don's studio
after passing thru the garage and climbing the stairs. Donald Duck
paraphernalia catch your eye immediately! The room is chock-full of such
Donald and Scrooge paraphernalia, ranging from small statuettes to larger
busts. The glass showcases where most of the Donald collectibles are stored
are literally bursting at the seams. There's a desk at the other end of the
stairway and Don's drawing board at the left. A couch, a love-seat, and a
giant T.V. screen complete the furniture. One also finds piles of
international comics printing his stories and Don invited us to take as
many as we pleased from his pile of second and third copies that he usually
gives away to kids at conventions (we graciously obliged the next day!). In
file cabinets he keeps copies of his initial and finished artwork of his
stories. 

We didn't know that we were up for a real treat (as though everything so
far wasn't a treat!). On his desk there laid the just finished rough
story-board pencil version of his *LATEST* story! A "Life of Scrooge"
chapter he's doing for "PICSOU" magazine, set in Panama in the early 1900s
where Scrooge encounters President Roosevelt again! Don said that he'd
wanted us to read it during our visit and let him know of our impressions
(the only thing I'll divulge at this point is that it's a really funny
story, and I'm really looking forward to seeing the finalized version and
how Don re-works some "contentious" sequences!). 

We spent a couple of hours in Don's studio discussing many topics and
listening to Don describing to us the entire process of developing a story,
from initial idea, to final inked art. It felt really special living all
this in the very "sanctum sanctorium" of Don Rosa's place. During that
first day in his studio we also saw copies of tens of fan artwork pieces
that Don has done in the past 10 years or so. Many of them I had seen for
the first time and it was a real treat!

We had to catch our breath after all this and we felt we also needed a
chance to unwind and process all the images of the last few hours. We went
downstairs (in the meantime we had met Ann, Don's lovely wife who had
returned from her seminar) and sat outside in the smaller deck waiting for
the sun to start setting before moving to the larger deck in the western
side of the house for dinner. Earlier, Don had asked us to choose what type
of dinner we'd prefer having and we opted for good, ol' American steak! As
we enjoyed our cold ale in a very hot afternoon we talked about many
things, many of them actually not comics related. For example, Don would
tell us of all the types of birds and animals that frequent his property,
and we did some bird-watching. We even saw some humming-birds as Don's
house is surrounded with humming-bird feeders.

We had grilled steak for dinner in the western deck as the sun was setting.
Orjan admitted that this was the *fattest* steak he'd ever eaten and he
also tried green onions for the *first* time picked fresh from the garden! 

After dinner we had to do something to burn off what we had just eaten! It
was dark already, so armed with flash-lights we embarked on  a forest
expedition! Don had told us that he has developed an elaborate system of
pathways in his property's forested area, and we thought it'd be a good
idea to "explore" some of them! We entered thru a path on the west and
proceeded thru a daedalic system of paths to the field at the south-western
part of his property until we finally returned to the driveway and back
home. Along the path-ways, Don has placed benches and we stopped for brief
rests during that "jungle exploration", always careful to avoid the
*dreaded* poison ivy that Don has been fighting relentlessly to exterminate!

Upon our return we were treated with cheese-cake from Ann and after
shooting the breeze for a few more minutes we decided it's time to call it
a day! As I laid on the bed in the guest-room, holding on my hands Don's
most recent story (I was probably the third person to read it!), I thought
to myself that all in all that was a pretty memorable day! And just before
I went asleep I dashed downstairs to hand over to Orjan's awaiting hands
the first 12 pages of the "Panamanian" Lo$ story I had just read!

(To be continued...)

Cheers,

Archontis







------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor 
Department of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York 13902
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
fax: (607)777-2681
------------------------------



From DGE at ECN.egmont.com  Mon Jun 12 19:35:50 2000
From: DGE at ECN.egmont.com (Gerstein, David DK - ECN)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:35:50 +0200
Subject: Rob Klein on the Lady Pig
Message-ID: <2053479E0C22D411BEA600805FC19743125346@CPHEGTD1-XCH02>

	Hey Eta! (And Rob, if you get this...)

>As it is unclear from the
>picture whether or not she could be one of the three little pigs in
>disguise, I rather doubt that she is. I suspect that she is Patricia Pig
>from the 30's cartoons and comic strips.

	She might have been intended (by the gag writer who came up with the
idea) as Patricia Pigg, but do remember that Patricia is a tall, extremely
fat adult pig, with a body many, many times bigger than her head. Even
though her appearance changed over the years, she at least remained
consistent in this way.
	So regardless of whom that cover-pig was intended to be, it didn't
*end up* as Patricia - who appears, as her recognizable self, many times
inside other issues of Mickey Mouse Magazine.

	Best wishes,
	David



From zopiloterap at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 12 23:53:21 2000
From: zopiloterap at hotmail.com (M i c r o s o f t Company)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:53:21 MDT
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <20000612215321.71354.qmail@hotmail.com>

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From komix43 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 13 00:10:31 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:10:31 +0300
Subject: oh, the Microsoft Company
Message-ID: <20000612221137.50998.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hello 



From jmantere at niksula.hut.fi  Tue Jun 13 06:19:47 2000
From: jmantere at niksula.hut.fi (Jussi Mantere)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:19:47 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Oh, please...
In-Reply-To: <20000612215321.71354.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.20.0006130718090.8469-100000@monsoon.cs.hut.fi>

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, M i c r o s o f t Company wrote:

> hello

Would you guys _please_ keep this sort of messages off the list?
Some of us have quite a crowded mailbox already; extra spam does nothing
but hurt. 

And, while I'm at it, this sort of whining doesn't belong to the list
either, but, nobody's perfect... :-)

 -jussi
-- 
.--- ..- ... ... .. jussi mantere
-- .- .. .-..       obs at iki.fi
.-- .-- .--         http://www.iki.fi/obs/
- .. -.-            TiK sihteeri '00




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Tue Jun 13 12:43:06 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:43:06 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Rosa Trip: Day 2
In-Reply-To: <200006131000.MAA11274@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006131331120.29474-100000@dias>

> I asked Don whether he'd be interested in ever
> selling his huge collection, and he replied that he'd do it only to someone
> who'd be interested in buying the entire set of a series;

At no more than cover price? Hmmm...

:-)

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Calling the Doctor!  There's no escape.  Repeat: there *is* no escape!"
-----




From apantsi at binghamton.edu  Tue Jun 13 18:05:16 2000
From: apantsi at binghamton.edu (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:05:16 -0400
Subject: Rosa Trip: Days 3 & 4
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000613120516.007a3c70@mail.binghamton.edu>

Fellow Quackeroos:

Day 2 of our Rosa trip had ended with me just having read Rosa's most
recent Lo$ chapter.

*DAY 3: THURSDAY, June 1, 2000*: We woke up ~ 8:00 a.m. and had to pass up
Ann's kind offer to fix us for breakfast the thickest pancakes in Kentucky
(the catch was that we had to wake up at 7:00 a.m., since she had to leave
for her seminar--as it turned out, we'd take her up on the offer the
following morning!). We had our breakfast at the western deck reading the
local newspaper that mentioned a demostration in Greece by extreme
religious groups regarding the mentioning of religious affiliation in one's
identity card!

After breakfast we visited a deck in the forest south of the house, always
been followed by the 3 dogs that were quick to respond to Don's commands
about squirrels! Don told us that they don't use that deck very often,
because, eventhough it's connected to a power line, it has no phone line
and so one can't sit there and get connected to the 'Net--plus, its
distance from the house would mean lots of carrying stuff back and forth. 

It was getting late in the morning and knowing that it'd get very hot and
humid later in the day, we embarked on our second forray into Don's
"jungle"! This time we "explored" the northwestern part of the forested
area. Don was literally armed with a machettee and was leading the way
around the "intricate" system of pathways. He told us that the major
"enemy" since he initially bought this property was the poison ivy! The
area was initially infested with poison ivy, but after persistent spraying
over the years, he has managed to kill it off in many areas, while still
fighting it where it's still reigning! The pathways are mowed ~once a month
and while he's always careful to avoid going over turtles, the last time he
mowed the area, his machine run against a turtle hiding in the grass. Our
"exploration" ended on the small pond north of the house.

What next? Well, a ride into town! Don wanted to make photocopies of his
most recent story and then drop them off at Dan Shane's place, so we
decided to ride along and then visit a local comic-book store, "The Great
Escape"!

We rode on the '48 Dodge and headed towards Louisville! I sat in the back
seat and I really enjoyed the ride even if it was really hot with no
air-conditioning. Other than that, however, the car was in *GREAT* shape!
Very roomy and comfortable inside (they *REALLY* knew how to make cars
these days!), and felt very safe (with real steel in the front bumpers!).
Most people would stare as we drove by as the car really stood out among
the modern Camrys, Accords, and Tauruses! Don told us that he's sometimes
asked by people "What year is *IT*?"--and he (jokingly) replies: " It's
2000!". 

We first made a stop at a photocopying center and we waited under the shade
of a tree as Don was taking care of the photocopies inside. At one point,
he rushed outside to show us a "real Kentucky redneck" that had just driven
up and didn't care to park his car properly but had simply left it where he
stopped!

After leaving the photocopying center and following a brief stop at Dan
Shane's house, we visited "The Great Escape". The store's managers knew Don
and he introduced us as "2 European comic book fans". (I guess they'd be
"shocked" if they met *American* Disney comics fans! :-)). We spent ~an
hour browsing thru the store and we even found 3 boxes of Disney comics
from Dell to Gladstone. Orjan bought a few Dell issues from the 1950s
saying that each costs less than a "Kalle Anka" costs nowadays! 

After a brief but non-successful stop at a nearby CVS pharmacy to look for
post-cards, we rode the Dodge and asked Don to take us to the house where
he was borned and raised (actually he lived there until his 9th year). It
was a very nice neighborhood in suburbia Louisville, and we parked right in
front of the house. Don told us that the place looked almost exactly as it
looked 40 years ago, with the only addition being a little tree planted
recently. Don showed us the window of his room where he read his (actually
his sister's) first Disney comics and where he drew his first comics! We
were hoping that someone would actually step out of the house so we could
talk to him, but to no avail. A neighbor working in her garden was busy
talking on her cellular phone, and after taking a few pictures we rode the
Dodge and headed for home. It was early in the afternoon, very hot, and at
some point the Dodge gave us a small scare at it started to overheat.
Fortunately, after passing some busy intersections the engine was
ventilated adequately and the temperature started to fall to less alarming
levels...

When we returned to Don's house we rested for a few minutes in the living
room and asked to see the stories he drew as a child! We thought that he'd
bring out 4-5 booklets, but he came upstairs carrying a big box! The box
was full of old agendas and accounting ledgers that Don's father would
bring home from work. We started thumbing thru these old mementos and we
saw what could well have been Don's first picture-story that he did while
in kinderkarten! (the story had "interruptions" for T.V. commercials, just
as the yound Don would see them on T.V.!). It was amazing to see that some
of his stories where he used stick figures would presage some of his Duck
stories (like "Journey to the Center of the Earth"!). Among the most
fascinating drawings were copies of 2 Barks stories where he used humans to
retrace "The Old Castle's Secret" and (Don's absolute favorite Barks story)
"The Golden Helmet". We were also able to locate what could be Don's first
Duck drawing (according to Frank Stajano), even though Don himself has some
doubts about it really being a Duck!

We spent the rest of the afternoon in Don's studio. Don left us there alone
for ~an hour to do some e-Bay "hunting" downstairs. We took countless
photos covering every possible angle of the room, (my favorite one is when
I was pretending to draw on his drawing board, with a lithograph of Barks'
oil painting "McDuck of Duckburg" in the background!), we searched thru the
piles of international Disneys free for the taking and took quite a few
back, we went thru his file cabinet with copies of all his stories in B&W
from initial rough story boards to finished inked panels, we read "The
Three Caballeros" (Orjan read the whole thing, I had time only to go thru
half of it and I'm really looking forward to seeing it in print!). 

We went downstairs when Don informed us that it was time for dinner! After
debating whether it was too hot to sit outside, we finally went ahead with
the previous evening's set-up: the larger, western deck. This time dinner
consisted of smocked chicken, corn-on-the-cob, salad, and cold ale (or
simply water for Orjan, who suffered in the heat the previous evening when
he had Don's homemade wine!). Personally, I sweated it out, but didn't
balk! We really enjoyed this last evening at the Rosas. We discussed
economics, politics, traveling, and ...birds! 

After dinner we visited Don's studio for one last time! Don never stopped
surprising us by bringing out new wonders to feast our eyes; the last was
probably the best: his original art for many of his covers, some older ones
he said will never part with and some newer ones. It was really a special
treat to close off the second day by oggling over those originals!


*DAY 4: FRIDAY, June 2, 2000*: We had decided to leave early, anticipating
a 12-hour drive back to Binghamton, NY. Hence, this time we took Ann up on
her flap-jacks offer for breakfast! Orjan tried one more thing for the
first time (among the many firsts for him during his U.S. visit). Good, ol'
Gyro was right there to offer us help with the pancakes! 

After breakfast it was time for good-byes: we thanked the Rosas for their
wonderful hospitality, for putting us up and feeding us, and sharing their
lives with us for two full days. As we drove up the driveway we knew that
the chances of making the same trip any time soon (if ever again) were
rather slim; at the same time we knew that these two days were something we
would treasure for the rest of our lives...

The drive back was more subdued than the one three days earlier. We tried
to re-collect our thoughts, compare notes, and exchange opinions on what we
had experienced. We stopped for lunch at a restaurant near Erie, PA, and we
arrived in Binghamton ~9:00 p.m. It was the end of four wonderful,
exhilarating days...

Cheers,

Archontis




------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor 
Department of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York 13902
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
fax: (607)777-2681
------------------------------



From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Wed Jun 14 03:49:19 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:49:19 -0300
Subject: New Brazilian Fethry spin-off stories on the Web!
Message-ID: <000801bfd5bb$2c9f47e0$18abfbc8@Arthur>

    Hi, All!

    Another two Brazilian FE stories have been
uploaded today, and will stay there for two weeks:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/


B 830186 "Fethry Kid meets Penelope Jones"
9 pages, art by Irineu S. Rodrigues

B 830207 Jungle Fethry "The Animal Men"
6 pages, art by Irineu S. Rodrigues

    Have fun! (and sorry for the scan quality:
Abril's stories from the 70s and 80s have an awful
printing quality, and the "noisy" JPEG compression
doesn't help anything!)

    -- Arthur






From donrosa at iglou.com  Wed Jun 14 14:00:44 2000
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:00:44 -0400
Subject: digest #177
References: <200006141000.MAA14871@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000501bfd5f8$2d9c7fe0$2ceeffcc@default>

> From: Kriton Kyrimis
> > I asked Don whether he'd be interested in ever
> > selling his huge collection, and he replied that he'd do it only to
someone
> > who'd be interested in buying the entire set of a series;
>
> At no more than cover price? Hmmm...

These are USED comic books.
*Half* cover price! I'm a fair guy.





From komix43 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 14 14:56:09 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:56:09 +0300
Subject: The new KOMIX web page opens today!
Message-ID: <20000614125654.61369.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi to all my DCML friends!
My Komix web page (http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage) is ready for
use!!! All Komixfans can go there and learn about Komix". The "English
Section" will be ready maybe on Friday. But still you can visit that
section. You will find some articles and interviews there!
Bye!

Apostolis, Athens



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 14 14:57:03 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:57:03 +0300
Subject: The new KOMIX web page opens today!
Message-ID: <20000614125822.61343.qmail@hotmail.com>

Hi to all my DCML friends!
My Komix web page (http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage) is ready for
use!!! All Komixfans can go there and learn about Komix". The "English
Section" will be ready maybe on Friday. But still you can visit that
section. You will find some articles and interviews there!
Bye!

Apostolis, Athens




From bkscheel at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 14 14:54:25 2000
From: bkscheel at hotmail.com (Birte & Kresten Scheel)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:25 +0200
Subject: Rosa Trip: Days 3 & 4 (Archontis Pantsios)
References: <200006141000.MAA14870@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000614130541.47973.qmail@hotmail.com>

Dear Archontis,
Thank you for sharing your trip to Don Rosa with us.  It was really interesting and enjoyable to read - in fact the best contribution to this list for a long time!  Happy to hear about the Bassets too!
Best wishes
Birte Scheel
Denmark




From mikep at iki.fi  Tue Jun 13 15:04:18 2000
From: mikep at iki.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:04:18 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: My two cents on new Lo$ stories
In-Reply-To: <200006111000.MAA24479@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006131544250.16807-100000@green>

Anders Christian Sivebaek on new Lo$ chapters:

> And don't come up with this again, about bad ratings on new
> Lo$-stories. I don't believe it.

I'm a great fan of Don and his stories, and I really enjoyed the epic Life
of Scrooge story-line. It was well thought-out, throughly researched, true
to all the Barks facts we've come to know and love, and a great story in
its own right: touching, humorous, exciting and whatnot.

But, for me, a big part of the Lo$ experience was that it was consistent
with all the Barks lore, and actually managed to mention ALL the Barks
facts. The new stories (like Cutty Sark) seem to be "nothing but"
adventures set in the past. Not part of the canon, if you will. 

Whereas there was good reason to set the stories into the past with the
original Lo$, the new ones seem to be set there for no particular reason.
Just imaginary stories with this, in a way, new character, Buck McDuck.

I don't know, maybe it was just that I didn't find Cutty Sark to be one of
Don's better stories. All that I said above could also apply to Hearts of
the Yukon, but I loved that. Somehow Cutty didn't seem to explore
Scrooge's character at all, just have do some cool action sequences. But
maybe it's just me. 



Mike Pohjola   mikep at iki.fi   +358-50-5238399   http://www.iki.fi/mikep





From oyvind at karstad.no  Wed Jun 14 21:51:47 2000
From: oyvind at karstad.no (Oyvind J. Karstad)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:51:47 +0200
Subject: Comic shops in Athens
Message-ID: <003a01bfd63a$0f0694c0$bea77dd4@karstad>

I am going to Athens with my family next week.
I know we have some Greek members on the list, and I have some questions:

Can anybody tell me where in the city I can find some good comic shops?
Is it difficult to find second-hand (or "new" backissues of) Disney comics?
How are the prices?

Is it still possible to get the June issue of Komix (#144),
considering I will not go "shopping" before around the 25th?

Oyvind J. Karstad






From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 15 00:09:58 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:09:58 +0300
Subject: Comic shops in Athens
Message-ID: <20000614221059.14398.qmail@hotmail.com>

Welcome to the 37*Celcium Athens, Oyvind. (Even if you are not still here!)

A good comic shop is "Solaris". It has any kind of comics magazines
(includes some Komix old issues, from the period 1990-1992). This shop is
near Stournari Street near the Greek National Technical School (but, please,
called it "Polytechnic", 'cause if you ask somebody with that name, he will
understand immediately!)
About new issues: Hmm...It's quite difficult to find them. There is no a
specific store for Komix magazine. Maybe some other DCML greek member will
know.
About other disney magazines: Well, I don't know. Unfortunately, there is no
place selling "Mickey Mouse" or "Donald Duck" issues.
About # 144: Offcourse! The # 145 will be published in 30th June! So, you
have enough time to find it. If you look in kiosks you will find it very
easy!
Komix's todays price is ~1,7$, I think.
Sorry if the information are not enough.

Apostolis



From jgarvin at bendcable.com  Thu Jun 15 17:35:21 2000
From: jgarvin at bendcable.com (john garvin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:35:21 -0700
Subject: carl's health
References: <200006151000.MAA22152@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3948F7B9.EA496406@bendcable.com>

Got this in the mail today.  Thought I would forward it  to the list.

. . .

The message below reached me this morning. I place it here to inform those
people asking for Carl's health.
Folgende Nachricht von Carl Barks erreichte mich heute. M?chte ich Euch auf
diesem Wege weiterleiten.
M.d.G.
Detlef Giesler

June 8, 2000

Dear family and friends,
It is Carl`s wish that I write to his close friends and family and explain
his current health condition. As most of you know Carl was diagnosed with
Leukemia in July of 1999. The doctor has been treating the cancer with a
very mild form of oral chemotherapy. Over the past 4 to 6 weeks Carl`s
health has steadily become worse. He is very weak and tired, and spends the
greater part of his day in bed or resting in his chair. Carl has requested
all medications that are prolonging his life be stopped. He will no longer
be given his chemotherapy pills.
Helen Hunicke and I oversee Carl`s care. We are doing everything in our
power to keep him comfortable. Helen arranged for Hospice care. There is a
nurse and an aid who assist in Carl`s personal care and work with his doctor
to insure that he is receiving the correct medication to help keep him
comfortable.
Short letters, cards or family photos would be enjoyed and appreciated, but
please know that Carl is unable to respond to them. Helen or I will
periodically keep you informed as to his condition. Also phone calls and
visits should be kept brief due to the fact that he tires very quickly.





From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Thu Jun 15 17:25:53 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:25:53 +0200
Subject: 178: Don and Greece
Message-ID: <200006151632.SAA00935@mail.mira.dk>

DON
> These are USED comic books.
> *Half* cover price! I'm a fair guy.
Thsi reminds me of a great cover or illustration i once saw by you,
Don. And there's some meen comics-alesman beside you, who sells
collector's comics, and you sell them at fair prices... Was the guy Al,
selling comics using some price-guide?

Anyway I too would like to thank Archontis a lot for his report about
his and Orjans vist at Don's house. It was brilliant IMO. 

Apostolis Trikourakis
You seem to find it very important that we see your nice page (Should
we link to it from duckhunt?), so much that you send the mail towo
times, maybe by mistake:-)

Sorry that I called you guys greaks the other day... greek just seems
so near to another word... (geek) - ;-)

MIKE
I see your point, but still i liked the Cutty Sark-story. The only
duck-charecter that could fill out the part Scrooge has in the story is
himself...

What did you think about the Pizen Bluff-b-chapter? i liked that one
very much too. 
 


Oyvind J. Karstad

Have a great trip to Athens, oyvind, allthough I wouldn't go there at
this time of year. Face it, even the greeks (?) are complaining over
the heat. 
When I visited in October last year the temperature in Denmark was
getting long pants and all... I changed to shorts the morning after I
arrived! (Didn't I? Wasm't it only when we went to dinner that I
switsched back because the evenings are cold? Kriton?)

> I am going to Athens with my family next week.
> I know we have some Greek members on the list, and I have some
questions:
I am not greek but I feel able to answer too. 
 
> Can anybody tell me where in the city I can find some good comic
shops?
I would say monistiraki is good! It's between Athina-street and The
acropolis. Just ask, everyone seems to know the way to the place. 

> Is it difficult to find second-hand (or "new" backissues of) Disney
comics?
Depends on how new you want them. I was able to find a not-so-nice-copy
of issue 133 (It was the time of issue 136 in october), so that's 3
months. 

> How are the prices?
Fair, very fair I'd say. 
 
> Is it still possible to get the June issue of Komix (#144),
> considering I will not go "shopping" before around the 25th?
Apostolis is probably right, the kiosk will still have it. You'll be so
lucky as to be able to buy two issues, if you stay untill 1st july. I
always plan my trips after that...(Yes, this guy is crazy!) On a trip
in 1993 I was able to buy 4 german weeklies and 2 french once.
Unfortunately this was caused by the death of my grandma...

Apostolis
> Welcome to the 37*Celcium Athens, Oyvind. (Even if you are not still
here!)
Outch... that's hot..

> A good comic shop is "Solaris". It has any kind of comics magazines
> (includes some Komix old issues, from the period 1990-1992). This
shop is
> near Stournari Street near the Greek National Technical School (but,
please,
> called it "Polytechnic", 'cause if you ask somebody with that name,
he will
> understand immediately!)
Solaris - Is okay, but a long way from... er my hotel... hmmm... 
Yes, Solaris has many Komix-issues. I remember the way Dennis and I
went there, up this street, to the left, up this street and so on...

> About new issues: Hmm...It's quite difficult to find them. There is
no a
> specific store for Komix magazine. Maybe some other DCML greek member
will
> know.
Maybe you should get an appointment with the office in Kifissia? But
then you'd maybe have to have written a letter some months before now.
That was partly the reason Dennis and I was allowed to visit the
office. 

> About other disney magazines: Well, I don't know. Unfortunately,
there is no
> place selling "Mickey Mouse" or "Donald Duck" issues.
No, not any american issues, except for one place , where Dennis
browsed, some of them, and that's where he works now, but I forgot
where it is... 

If you are a bit crazy like me though, you might want to find an issue
of all the different duck comics they have in Greece. Those will be
easy too find on every corner of the streets in Monistiraki. I think
it's on sunday that the the big markets take place, and the whole area
is filled up with people. If you come on normal weekdays all the shops
will also be open I think. but maybe not at noon - It's simply too hot.

> About # 144: Offcourse! The # 145 will be published in 30th June! So,
you
> have enough time to find it. If you look in kiosks you will find it
very
> easy!
> Komix's todays price is ~1,7$, I think.
> Sorry if the information are not enough.
I tried to give some more. Feel welcome to mail me private or here,
Oyvind if even that wasn't enough:-)
 




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 15 19:25:34 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:25:34 +0300
Subject: 178: Don and Greece
Message-ID: <20000615173109.25223.qmail@hotmail.com>

>>>You seem to find it very important that we see your nice page (Should
we link to it from duckhunt?), so much that you send the mail towo
times, maybe by mistake:-)

My Outlook Express program is a little bit crazy 'cause sometimes is sending
my messages twice! But, yes, it's very important for me 'cause I spend 3
months working on the page and I'd like to be a good one. ;-)

>>>Sorry that I called you guys greaks the other day... greek just seems
so near to another word... (geek) - ;-)

What is a "geek"? ok I forgive you! :-)

>>>Have a great trip to Athens, oyvind, allthough I wouldn't go there at
this time of year. Face it, even the greeks (?) are complaining over
the heat.
&
>>>Outch... that's hot..

Oh, that's true! We can't afford a so much hot weather! e.x. today (15th)
the temperature is ~35*C and tomorrow will be 39*c!!!

>>>I would say monistiraki is good! It's between Athina-street and The
acropolis. Just ask, everyone seems to know the way to the place.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to told him about Monastiraki!

Apostolis









From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Thu Jun 15 23:56:03 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:56:03 -0400
Subject: letters to Barks
Message-ID: <394950F2.270651BD@mpinet.net>

Can anyone suggest the best address for letters to Carl.  I would
imagine that care of the Disney Studios would be adequate, but can't
help but think there are better options.




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Fri Jun 16 00:59:17 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:59:17 -0300
Subject: Picsou # 336
Message-ID: <000201bfd71f$7f99b100$75e329c8@default>

Please, can somebody tell me about the content of Picsou Magazine #336? I
bought just today, and tomorrow I'll go the comic shop to catch her. But, of
course, I can't expect.

Fabio.
****************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun 16 09:07:35 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:07:35 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #178 - 7 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200006151000.MAA22159@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006160937100.3027-100000@dias>

DON:

> These are USED comic books.
> *Half* cover price! I'm a fair guy.

Let's see then: Let us assume that you have some absurdly high number
of comic books, like 100,000. At an (arbitrarily chosen) average of 50
cents per issue this gives us $50,000, and at half price, this gives
us $25,000, which sounds pretty affordable. It seems to me that if you
ever decide to sell, the biggest problem will not be finding people who
can afford your price, but paying the lawyer who will make the iron-clad
contract that forbids the splitting of the collection in perpetuity.

This is just an intellectual exercise, of course, as I'd be surprised
if you ever sold your collection.


APOSTOLIS/OYVIND:

> About new issues: Hmm...It's quite difficult to find them. There is no a
> specific store for Komix magazine. Maybe some other DCML greek member will
> know.
> About other disney magazines: Well, I don't know. Unfortunately, there is no
> place selling "Mickey Mouse" or "Donald Duck" issues.

*New* issues, are extremely easy to find. Just go to any kiosk or other
store selling newspapers and ask for them. *Old* issues can be found in a
couple of places, including the used book stores in the Monastiraki area,
at the foot of the Acropolis. Visiting them is a very small side trip from
your visit to the Agora, which I assume will be part of your schedule.

As for used comic book prices, relatively recent issues are not that
expensive (about 100 drs for an issue of Mickey Mouse, and about 300
drs. for an issue of Klasika, if I remember correctly). Komix is another
matter. Recent issues (which can be ordered as back issues from the
publisher, anyway) cost a couple hundred drs less than what you'll pay
if you order them from the publisher. Older issues, of both Komix and
other comic books, assuming you can find them, which is not always easy,
are quite expensive. 
-- 
	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There are finer thieves than I.  Time, for example.  Eventually, it steals
 everything."
-----




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun 16 13:16:26 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:16:26 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #179 - 6 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200006161000.MAA22235@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006161353030.10052-100000@dias>

ANDERS CHRISTIAN:

> When I visited in October last year the temperature in Denmark was
> getting long pants and all... I changed to shorts the morning after I
> arrived! (Didn't I? Wasm't it only when we went to dinner that I
> switsched back because the evenings are cold? Kriton?)

It was the first day that I'd put on a shirt with long sleeves.  I don't
wear shorts, but it was certainly warm enough to eat outside in the
evening.

> You'll be so
> lucky as to be able to buy two issues, if you stay untill 1st july.

Or even June 30, as Komix usually comes out on the last Friday of
each month.

> What is a "geek"? ok I forgive you! :-)

1. a performer in a carnival or the like who does grotesque acts, such
   as biting the heads off live chickens or snakes.
2. any person who is considered to be different in a grotesque or
   bizarre way.

(#2 is the most common usage these days, I believe).

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There are finer thieves than I.  Time, for example.  Eventually, it steals
 everything."
-----




From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Jun 16 15:53:51 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:53:51 +0100
Subject: Rosa Trip: Day 2
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075A4D@l04.research.kpn.com>

Archontis wrote (Monday, June 12, 2000 5:59 PM):

> What was the coolest room in the house? Well,...., the famous "comics
> vault"! We descented down the stairs and got inside the room 
> we had read
> about so many times in the past. It's a relatively small room, with
> wall-to-wall comic-book "carpeting"!

I have some pictures of that vault from 1994 (I've never been there myself,
though). Anyone interested can have a look at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p00-08.html
and maybe Archontis or Don can tell us if anything has changed in the past 6
years. 8-)

--Harry.



From gwtank at email.msn.com  Fri Jun 16 17:11:54 2000
From: gwtank at email.msn.com (gwtank)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:11:54 -0700
Subject: Mailing address
Message-ID: <003601bfd7a5$358a6060$8a070e3f@u16z6>

If anyone wants to send cards or greetings to Carl Barks his mailing address is

Carl Barks
1415 Heritage
Grants Pass, Oregon, USA 97526
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From oyvind at karstad.no  Sat Jun 17 23:12:02 2000
From: oyvind at karstad.no (Oyvind J. Karstad)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:12:02 +0200
Subject: Comic shops in Athens
Message-ID: <001501bfd8a0$bb8b51a0$3aa67dd4@karstad>

Apostolis, Anders, Kriton:
Thank you very much for the information.

Apostolis:
>Welcome to the 37*Celcium Athens, Oyvind.

You're scaring me!
:-)

>(Even if you are not still here!)

I'm going next friday.

Anders:
>You'll be so lucky as to be able to buy two issues, 
>if you stay untill 1st july. 

Great!
Does anybody know the contents of the next issue?

Oyvind





From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Jun 18 13:28:30 2000
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:28:30 +0200
Subject: re 181, Oyvind
Message-ID: <200006181121.NAA49576@mail.mira.dk>

Oyvind
> Does anybody know the contents of the next issue?

I believe it can be read in the issue that is out. when I was there
Dennis told me the contenst of the next issue from a firled on the
contents page of the newest issue. In any case you should buy both,
Komix is a nice mag, and this year there's Rosa in 10 out of 12 issues
or around that. 

AC



From gwtank at email.msn.com  Sun Jun 18 19:11:42 2000
From: gwtank at email.msn.com (gwtank)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:11:42 -0700
Subject: Messages
Message-ID: <003f01bfd948$47013f40$be070e3f@u16z6>

Yesterday I posted Carl Barks address.
Today I offer my services to bring messages to him if you prefer to send them by email. My address is gwtank at email.msn.com. If you wish you can also send letters or cards of best wishes to me at G.W.Tank, 2370 Scoville Road, Grants Pass, Or. 97526-3462 and they will be promptly forwarded to him. In advance, he thanks all of his fans for their interest not only in his comics, but also in his welfare at this late stage in life.
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From starback at ling.uu.se  Sun Jun 18 20:47:56 2000
From: starback at ling.uu.se (Per Starback)
Date: 18 Jun 2000 20:47:56 +0200
Subject: Web news
In-Reply-To: Per Starback's message of "11 Jun 2000 13:56:22 +0200"
References: <qzya4cmnx5.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <qz66r6zuzn.fsf@numerus.ling.uu.se>

New stuff on the DCML pages at <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/>
from last week:

* Gianfranco Goria presents himself at
  <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/gianfranco-goria.html>

* Updates to the Egmont story file, as well as the Norwegian and Swedish
  parts of the Inducks.

* Issue pages now link to other issues which they are (more or less)
  equivalent to or which they include.
  See <http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/issue?de-DD+9>
  for an example.  (For the time being these "equiv" links not
  necessarily go both ways, though, but only the way they are actually
  entered into the database.)

/Per



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Sun Jun 18 22:18:28 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:18:28 +0200
Subject: Comic shops in Athens
In-Reply-To: <200006181000.MAA10720@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <yam8204.1415.292575384@dias.cti.gr>

OYVIND:

>> Welcome to the 37*Celcium Athens, Oyvind.
> 
> You're scaring me!

You could have come today, when we had an unusually cold spell. I believe
that at one o'clock today the temperature in the center of Athens was
only 21 degrees Celsius!

> Does anybody know the contents of the next issue?

Stories:
* Barks' "Heedless Horseman"
* A Vicar story whose Greek title is "Underwater Trouble"
* A Noel Van Horn story whose Greek title is "The Ghost Train".

Articles:
* The Beagle Boys' club
* Fantasia 2000

        Kriton  (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
                (WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I am not here, don't worry!"
-----




From gwtank at email.msn.com  Thu Jun 22 23:50:26 2000
From: gwtank at email.msn.com (gwtank)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:50:26 -0700
Subject: Thank you's from Carl
Message-ID: <000a01bfdc94$644e8040$30070e3f@u16z6>

Although Carl  Barks doesn't have the stamina to answer all of your good wishes, I am substituting for him. I have received a number of nice e-mails which I have dutifully taken to him daily. I can assure you that he reads them all and that it heartens him during these days that he still has so many fans. Keep the comments coming in especially if you can also tell him how his works have had an effect on your lives. Many have said that they learned to read because they wanted to know what appeared in the little balloons. gwtank at msn.com

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From orjan.berglund at z.lst.se  Mon Jun 26 21:18:14 2000
From: orjan.berglund at z.lst.se (orjan.berglund@z.lst.se)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:18:14 +0200
Subject: visiting Archontis and Don
Message-ID: <BBF4935E7C2FD311BE890090271F65C13B7960@HERMES>

I do not frequently contribut to the mailing-list but I do read it
frequently. Now this trip I made to the USA to meet my Greek friend
Archontis Pantsios and then accompaning him to visit Don Rosa is a very good
reason to write to the mailing-list. When returning to Sweden June 6th I
found that my new computor didn?t want to connect me with the internet, and
I have had that problem for more than two weeks. Eventually the problem was
solved and now it should work, I hope.

Archontis did a great job describing the trip to Don Rosa so detailed, that
it was like doing the trip once more when I read it. I will not repeat that.
Archontis wrote that he had kept bugging me for visiting him in the States.
I wouldn?t say bugging, just ask politely  a couple of times. I always
answered that I would try to make the trip. But, honestly, in my mind I
thought of all obstacles that would keep me from going. Considering that I
am approaching my 50th birthday and that I never have been to the US, I new
that first time over there had to be with my family and then visiting the ?
usual? tourist attractions in New York, Washington, Florida, Los Angeles
and/or San Francisco. But when the day for Archontis? departure for
Louisville came closer in time I finally realised that this was THE chance
of my life!  To ever have the chance to go for that long ride through New
York State, Pennsylvania, Ohio and then into Kentucky, and to visit Don and
his wife in his home, this was it!  Only my friend Archontis living in the
States for a few months could ever make this possible. So I decided to make
the trip only six days before I left for the States. One thing I had to do
before my final decision was to ask Don if it was OK if I would accompany
Archontis visiting them. When I got the reply, one single line, ? Yes, of
course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? it was all set.

I did the trip from Sweden on my own, and this was the first time I would
meet Archontis face to face. It was actually through this mailing-list we
first started to correspond back in 96 or 97, at first from our interest in
Don?s pre-Disney work. But as we started to write also about other things
than comics, sharing thoughts, talking about family and work, and as the
years have passed Archontis has become a very dear friend. It was only last
year we spoke on the phone for the first time. Anyway it felt like I aready
had met him.
I arrived to JFK late in the evening, 10.00. It was almost midnight before I
got to my hotel, a tiny hotel just one block from Times Square. The room was
very small 2,5 * 2,5 meters and quite expensive, $110- But after a good
nights sleep I ?did? New York - Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty,
Washington Square, Central Park and Broadway. Then in the evening ti Port
Authority to cath the Greayhound-bus to Binghamton. Then you have Archontis
story. The departure from Sweden so prompt after my decision to go made it
hard to understad that I really was in the USA. It took some days before I
got used to that fact.

Visiting the Rosas was an owerwhelming experience. You can talk about
hospitality, but this was it. Coming for a visit and meet such kindness and
warmth is just great! All you wanted to know about Don?s comic-stories, and
wasn?t to afraid to ask, you got all the answers. To see all what you?ve
heard about or seen in pictures is just fantastic. What I found very
interesting was when Don described how his stories develop fron the first
idea to the final art and text. It is more work in that process than you
would believe.

When we were following Don, in a ?Panama-hat? and with the machettee,
through the trails of his private jungle it felt like taking part of his new
Lo$ story in Panama. I love all the chapters of Lo$, and this is no
exception. I hope that Don keeps his promise to do at least one Lo$-story
each year.
When hearing about the ?Three Caballero story? I thought that I would be
impossible to make a good story from that idea. But after having read it
it?s clearly a masterpiece Don has created, approaching the Disney universe
form a completely different angle. Pure Rosa!!! Just wait and see, and
enjoy!

Thanks Don and Ann for an unforgettable experience!

And to Archontis I have to send a huge thank you! You made it possible for
me to make this fantastic trip, living in your home for so many days,
driving around to so many places, experience so much. I hope to see you and
your family in my home here in Sweden some day.

Orjan B, Sweden









From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Wed Jun 28 15:54:36 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:54:36 +0100
Subject: New Inducks database version & photographs
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075ADE@l04.research.kpn.com>

1.
I.N.D.U.C.K.S., our Disney comics database, has had a major update today.
See
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/
and
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/

2.
I uploaded some photographs of Rob Klein's visit to me, last week. You can
see him, Henri Kunne, Harry Obelink, Mattias Hallin, and me at:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p00-09.html

(Also have a look at Rob's drawing for my photo pages:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/photos.html)

--Harry.



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Wed Jun 28 19:30:33 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:30:33 +0100
Subject: Frank Jonker looking for comics
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075AE6@l04.research.kpn.com>

Frank Jonker (frankj at worldonline.nl) is a Dutch writer, who writes a *lot*
of stories for the Dutch producktion. He also wrote a few stories for Egmont
in Denmark. He is looking for prints of his stories in various countries.

In particular Frank is looking for the most recent Egmont pocket books (with
D 97063 in it), and for the Swedish Joakim pocket #4, 2000 (with D 97265 in
it).

Frank does not read this DCML, so please contact him directly in private
e-mail, or via me.

--Harry.



From chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 28 18:45:56 2000
From: chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com (Chuck Munson)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Indian Disney Comics
Message-ID: <20000628164556.28135.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,

A little while back, in a rare free moment, I obtained
the address for subscriptions to the Indian Egmont
English-language Disney comics from list member Jan
Follak (thanks again Jan!).  I sent off a letter
inquiring about the availability of subs to the US,
explaining that India seemed to be the only country
left producing Disney comics in English.  Yesterday I
received a pithy two sentence reply from Samantha
Sawlani, a customer service executive at Indian
Express Egmont Publications:

"Thank you very much for showing interest in our
publications.  You seem to be a crazy [crazy?? - I
sincerely hope she meant avid or loyal - Chuck] reader
of Disney comics but I'm really sorry to inform you
that it would not be possible for us to have a
subscriber in U.S.A.

Best Regards,
Samantha Sawlani"

I suspected that this might be the case, but it was
still disappointing to see it confirmed in print. 
Comments, anyone?

By the way, the envelope noted an e-mail address:
subscription at ieegmont.com.  I looked up the address
www.ieegmont.com and the page was blank except for a
note that it was under construction and to please
bookmark it for later.  I don't know, perhaps if they
were to be bombarded with a potentially lucrative
number of subscription requests from other "crazy"
readers they might consider foreign subs????  Again,
comments, anyone?

Take care,
Chuck Munson

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From stepam at ezaccess.net  Wed Jun 28 23:35:39 2000
From: stepam at ezaccess.net (Steve and Pam)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:35:39 -0400
Subject: African Disney Characters
Message-ID: <001301bfe148$cee9ffc0$9c204ad1@compaqcomputer>

My friends and I were trying to figure out if there was ever a black or african Disney character, either in the early days of comics and shorts and cartoons, or otherwise.

If you know of ANY, other than animals, we would love to hear from you.

Thanks A Lot!!!

Pam

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From thomas.moss at intel.com  Thu Jun 29 01:38:42 2000
From: thomas.moss at intel.com (Moss, Thomas)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:38:42 -0700
Subject: African Disney Characters
Message-ID: <A7BD6744D865D211AC3E00A0C95D1A6E029391D6@orsmsx45.jf.intel.com>

    In the Life of Scrooge series there were some minor African characters
whom Uncle Scrooge cheated out of their land.  The Witch Doctor then sent
Bombie the Zombie after Scrooge.
    
            Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve and Pam [mailto:stepam at ezaccess.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:36 PM
To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: African Disney Characters


My friends and I were trying to figure out if there was ever a black or
african Disney character, either in the early days of comics and shorts and
cartoons, or otherwise.
 
If you know of ANY, other than animals, we would love to hear from you.
 
Thanks A Lot!!!
 
Pam
 

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From gpantzer at ny.tds.net  Thu Jun 29 03:02:00 2000
From: gpantzer at ny.tds.net (Gary Pantzer)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:02:00 -0400
Subject: Merry June 29th
Message-ID: <000001bfe167$5b3452a0$acd431cf@gpantzer>

Happy Birthday, Don!




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Thu Jun 29 04:05:35 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:05:35 -0300
Subject: Indian Disney Comics
Message-ID: <000201bfe176$584e9a00$50e329c8@default>

I sent off a letter
>inquiring about the availability of subs to the US,
>explaining that India seemed to be the only country
>left producing Disney comics in English.

I sent an e-mail to komix at terz.gr , the Subscriptions Department of Komix
Magazine. But bounce to me an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender"... Ouch!

>I don't know, perhaps if they
>were to be bombarded with a potentially lucrative
>number of subscription requests from other "crazy"
>readers they might consider foreign subs????

I think is a great idea!

Fabio
**********************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar




From pekka.malmstrom at uppsala.mail.telia.com  Thu Jun 29 05:35:07 2000
From: pekka.malmstrom at uppsala.mail.telia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Per-Erik_Malmstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:35:07 +0200
Subject: African Disney Characters
References: <A7BD6744D865D211AC3E00A0C95D1A6E029391D6@orsmsx45.jf.intel.com>
Message-ID: <000c01bfe17b$0666f160$061c40d5@a00100353>

THOMAS:
 >>   In the Life of Scrooge series there were some minor African characters whom Uncle Scrooge cheated out of their land.  The Witch Doctor then sent Bombie the Zombie after Scrooge.<<

Yup, that's from chapter eleven, The empire-builder from Calisota. These characters originally appeared in Carl Barks's Voodoo Hoodoo (OS 238-02 ). A classic image of Bombie the zombie is available at Daniel van Eijmeren's site: <http://www.acciom.se/barks/unpub02.htm>

Pam, there are black natives in many of Floyd Gottredson's strips, but as they are heavily caricatured, you won't find these comics uncensored in any recent publications. But you can find sample pages from at least two of them, at: <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/floyd-gottfredson.html>; look at "In search of jungle treasure" and "Mickey Mouse Sails for Treasure Island".

Best wishes,
/Per-Erik




From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Thu Jun 29 06:21:30 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:21:30 -0300
Subject: Oh, no! New Fethry spin-off story again! ;-)
Message-ID: <000d01bfe181$8bc5f3a0$4eabfbc8@arthurfaria>

    Hi, All!

New Fethry spin-off story on the Web
have been uploaded today. The story
is great, but the translation... hmm...

- B 820231 Red Bat: "A Heroine is Born... Purple Butterfly"
  7 pages, art: Luis Podavin.

...where Purple Butterfly (Borboleta P?rpura, Fethry's
girlfriend Gloria as a super heroine) appeared for
the first time.

    Bye,
    Arthur.




From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Thu Jun 29 06:25:12 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:25:12 -0300
Subject: Oh, no! I forgot the URL again!
Message-ID: <001901bfe182$804273e0$4eabfbc8@arthurfaria>

    Hi, again!
    About my last message:

> New Fethry spin-off story on the Web
> have been uploaded today. The story
> is great, but the translation... hmm...

> - B 820231 Red Bat: "A Heroine is Born... Purple Butterfly"
>  7 pages, art: Luis Podavin.

    I forgot the URL again. It's:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

Sorry.......

    -- Arthur

     




From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 29 11:37:17 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:37:17 CEST
Subject: Frank Jonker looking for comics
Message-ID: <20000629093717.77466.qmail@hotmail.com>

>From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
>To: "'dcomics'" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>CC: "'frankj at worldonline.nl'" <frankj at worldonline.nl>
>Subject: Frank Jonker looking for comics
>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:30:33 +0100

>Frank Jonker (frankj at worldonline.nl) is a Dutch writer, who writes a *lot* 
>of stories for the Dutch producktion. He also wrote a few stories for 
>Egmont in Denmark. He is looking for prints of his stories in various 
>countries.

>In particular Frank is looking for the most recent Egmont pocket books 
>(with D 97063 in it),
Not in Sweden...

>and for the Swedish Joakim pocket #4, 2000 (with D 97265 in it).

This was however correct:
J 00-04d D 97265       32 3     ->      DD  Skridskomotst?ndaren 
[xapp:DD,HDL]
|					 [art:Pasquale] [plot:FJo] [also titled
|					 The Anti-Roller Skater]
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From DGE at ECN.egmont.com  Thu Jun 29 12:45:36 2000
From: DGE at ECN.egmont.com (Gerstein, David DK - ECN)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:45:36 +0200
Subject: African Disney Characters
Message-ID: <2053479E0C22D411BEA600805FC19743125393@CPHEGTD1-XCH02>

	PAM, PER-ERIK:

>Pam, there are black natives in many of Floyd Gottredson's strips,
>but as they are heavily caricatured, you won't find these comics
>uncensored in any recent publications. But you can find sample 
>pages from at least two of them, at:
><http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/floyd-gottfredson.html>
>look at "In search of jungle treasure"
	[SNIP]

	Eeeeyow! I just checked this page, and the scan *has* been censored!
	How do I know? Because I'm the guy who did it!

	When I made those scans some years ago, my goal wasn't just to use
them for the DCML web pages; I also meant to color them by computer and
prepare a sort of "Gottfredson sampler" as a guide for some people who were
then working at Disney. To keep the material from seeming too controversial,
I made alternate, retouched versions of the "Jungle Treasure" and "Treasure
Island" samples.
	While I never actually followed up on my plan with Disney, I notice
now - for the first time - that I gave the DCML pages the censored version
of the "Jungle Treasure" page.
	Maybe someone wants to make a new scan?

	(BTW, the "Treasure Island" scan on the DCML pages is the properly
original version.)

	David



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 29 14:13:41 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:13:41 +0300
Subject: Happy Birthday Don!
Message-ID: <20000629121434.29458.qmail@hotmail.com>

Happy Birthday to our favourite duck artist in the world.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DON!!!!!!

Apostolis Trikourakis
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Thu Jun 29 14:17:32 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:17:32 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: e-mail to komix
In-Reply-To: <200006291000.MAA13097@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006291508550.20718-100000@dias>

FABIO:

> I sent an e-mail to komix at terz.gr , the Subscriptions Department of Komix
> Magazine. But bounce to me an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender"... Ouch!

This is a regular occurrence with e-mail sent to Komix. For some reason
you get a bounce, even though your message is received.  Perhaps they've
set up their mail this way to indicate that you are unlikely to ever
get a reply from them--even Don has trouble getting replies from them.

As this was a reply to a posting claiming that India may be the only
place in the world where Disney comics are published in English, I'd
better point out that KOMIX is published in Greek!

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"There's nowhere else like it in the Universe.  Not *this* Universe, anyway..."
-----




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Thu Jun 29 15:02:56 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:02:56 -0300
Subject: e-mail to komix
Message-ID: <000801bfe1ca$b30a3fe0$41e329c8@default>

Kryton:
>This is a regular occurrence with e-mail sent to Komix. For some reason
>you get a bounce, even though your message is received.

Thanks! That give me hopes...
>I'd
>better point out that KOMIX is published in Greek!
Yes. I know. Thanks, my plan is enjoy everyway. Anyway I learn Latin and
Sanskrit in University. I can learn greek too! :)

Fabio
**************************
Anagnorisis? Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar




From gbalanik at kat.forthnet.gr  Thu Jun 29 17:22:13 2000
From: gbalanik at kat.forthnet.gr (Georgios Balanikas)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:22:13 +0300
Subject: Komix e-mail address
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006291508550.20718-100000@dias>
Message-ID: <005c01bfe1dd$ec76e4a0$b4895cc1@med.auth.gr>


> FABIO:
>
> > I sent an e-mail to komix at terz.gr , the Subscriptions Department of
Komix
> > Magazine. But bounce to me an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender"...
Ouch!

The correct address is: komix at terz.hol.gr

GEORGIOS






From rdavidek at idirect.com  Thu Jun 29 17:58:14 2000
From: rdavidek at idirect.com (Rod Davidek)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:58:14 -0400
Subject: African Disney Characters
In-Reply-To: <200006291000.MAA13110@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000629115814.0079c100@idirect.com>

Pam wrote,

>My friends and I were trying to figure out if there was ever a black or =
>african Disney character, either in the early days of comics and shorts =
>and cartoons, or otherwise.

There was only one recurring black character in the Disney short cartoons.
She was "Aunt Delilah", an obvious caricature of actress Louise Beavers.

Aunt Delilah appeared in four cartoons: "Three Orphan Kittens", "More
Kittens", "Pantry Pirate" and "Figaro and Cleo". She's seen only from the
waist down, more or less from the point of view of the pet animals that are
the stars of each cartoon.

"Three Orphan Kittens" was the first of these and it set the formula for
the others: Black housekeeper tells animals to behave or else, animals
misbehave while her back is turned. 

I've seen this Disney character identified as "Mammy Two Shoes", but that's
actually the name of the character in the Tom and Jerry cartoons that are a
blatant rip-off by Hanna and Barbera of the earlier Disney stories.

Black sterotypes in Disney cartoons were conspicuous by their absence
compared to the other cartoons of that era, but I can think of several.
However, the only example that comes to mind who was animated as a person
(as opposed to an animal, bird, insect, doll or cookie) was a caricature of
Stepin Fetchit in the Donald Duck cartoon "The Autograph Hound".


                                 - Rod -   




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Fri Jun 30 05:35:02 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:35:02 -0300
Subject: Komix e-mail address
Message-ID: <001101bfe247$5ad7a2e0$63e329c8@default>

>The correct address is: komix at terz.hol.gr
>
>GEORGIOS
 
I see!: holY grAIL !!!!!

Thanks Georgios

Fabio
***********************
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar





From kyrimis at cti.gr  Fri Jun 30 12:57:14 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:57:14 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Komix e-mail address
In-Reply-To: <200006301000.MAA08790@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0006301352550.7390-100000@dias>

GEORGIOS:

> The correct address is: komix at terz.hol.gr

I don't have an issue of Komix in front of me, but I think that this
is an old address, and that the currently advertised address is the one
Fabio mentioned. I'll have to check.

FABIO:

> I see!: holY grAIL !!!!!

Actually, it's Hellas On Line, a Greek (or should I say Hellenic?) ISP,
though finding the Holy Grail can prove to be easier than getting an
e-mail reply from Komix...

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I don't exist in your world!"
"Then you won't feel the bullets when we shoot you!"
-----




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 30 13:26:50 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:26:50 +0300
Subject: Attention! The New KOMIX e-mail address
Message-ID: <20000630112806.52247.qmail@hotmail.com>

Komix Magazine has changed the e-mail address from komix at terz.gr to
naktina at terz.gr So be carefull next time you send an e-mail to Komix!

Apostolis Trikourakis
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From gbalanik at med.auth.gr  Fri Jun 30 15:15:12 2000
From: gbalanik at med.auth.gr (Georgios Balanikas)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:15:12 +0300
Subject: The New KOMIX e-mail address
Message-ID: <002201bfe295$66689e40$03000004@x1y6a1>

KRITON & APOSTOLIS
You are right . I have in front of me the new KOMIX #145  and the correct
address is :naktina at terz.gr. I was fooled because last October I sent a
letter to the magazine which was published last March, and I used the
mentioned address.


GEORGIOS




From nils at math.uio.no  Fri Jun 30 17:17:07 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:17:07 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa in music book 
Message-ID: <200006301517.RAA13517@masterblaster.uio.no>

"Ekko 1" is a very nice book about music & history of music,
intended for use in Norwegian high school (age group 16-17),
more specifically for those pupils opting to have more
on music inside their curricula than what the default choice
amounts to. Its authors are Brunsvik, Danbolt, Egenberg,
Graff, Solberg, Soernaes and Vaardal, and it is just out 
(this week, actually?) from the Norwegian publishing house 
Gyldendal. (There is a companion volume "Ekko 2" for the next
musical step of the high school ladder.) 

I recommend the book unhesitatingly for its informative 
discussions on well-chosen topics from Monteverdi to sami joik,
its beautiful design, generous illustrations, and exquisite 
and balanced selection of musical examples. 

Chapter 8, of the nine chapters, concentrates on Nordic 
folk music and popular music, with separate sections on 
the music of Iceland, Denmark, Sweden and Finland. This latter 
section mentions the Kalevala and its importance for the folk 
music tradition, along with the kantele, the "crying women" 
from Karelen, and so on. And, lo & behold, this section is 
accompanied by an extract from the great Kalevala Duck story 
by Don Rosa, published last year [in Finland with much bravado 
in November, in the other Nordic countries in December, then in 
Germany in January?, and soon in France, and so on]. We see 
3/4 of the first page of the second part of the three-part story
(taken from NDD #49/1999), to be precise. The accompanying picture 
text informs the readers that 

"In 1999, the well-known Disney comics artist Don Rosa created 
a story where Donald, Uncle Scrooge and the nephews land in the
middle of the mythical epos Kalevala. The Kalevala lines 
are kept in correct runo-metric form, with eight syllables 
per line of verse, as in the original Kalevala epos." 

Congratulations to Don on having reached even textbooks about
music history. Since this is lifted from the first page 
of one of the parts, the line indicating "Manus & tegninger:
Don Rosa" is also clearly given. 

The well-constructed names-and-objects register at the end of the book
graciously includes `kalevala' and `kantele' as well as `Donald Duck'
and `Rosa, Don'. This, incidentally, reflects the Scandinavian/European
tradition or viewpoint that _Donald_ is (by default) the central
figure; perhaps most Americans, and perhaps Don R, would instead
have put in `Uncle Scrooge'. 

Let me also comment briefly on a side issue, since I know it interests
several of the Disney Comics people: the book is packed full with
all kinds of illustrations, some of which are copyrighted with 
such and such rights, and so on. It is then among the laborious
tasks of the publishers to painstakingly go through everything
and secure permission, calculate and pay royalties, and so on. In the 
particular case of the Rosa art, my understanding is that the publishers 
politely asked the Egmont office (the rightful owners) for permission 
to include the chosen 3/4 page, and they nodded and said yes, for free, 
as long as it is clear that it is taken from a Disney Comic. 
And even those Norwegian pupils who fail in music and mathematics
instantly recognise these pictures as being taken from the Norwegian
weekly "Donald Duck & Co". 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From Wouter at agroweb.nl  Fri Jun 30 21:17:32 2000
From: Wouter at agroweb.nl (Wouter)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:17:32 +0200
Subject: African caracters
Message-ID: <00f801bfe2cf$6d7bc9c0$19ce3591@olitest>

Hello,
there has been talk about African Disney caracters. A very famous African caracter is Flintheart Glimgold. He is African, as you can read in various Carl Barks and Don Rosa stories.
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From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Thu Jun 29 23:07:32 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:07:32 -0300
Subject: A Brazilian "New Daisy" story on the Web
Message-ID: <002c01bfe30b$d96e67a0$c6abfbc8@arthurfaria>

    Hi, All!

For a change, I've put this time a Brazilian
Daisy story on the Web (actually the first
"New Daisy" story) together with a Fethry one.

So, at:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

you'll find:

- B 820231 Red Bat: "A Heroine is Born... Purple Butterfly"
  7 pages, art: Luis Podavin.

and

- B 860063 Daisy Duck "A New Daisy Duck"
  8 pages, art: Euclides K. Miyaura.


    Enjoy!
    -- Arthur





