From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Fri Sep  1 08:41:18 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:41:18 -0300
Subject: New Brazilian Disney stories on the Web!
Message-ID: <002901c013df$c738d840$1dabfbc8@default>

    Hi, All!

    Two more Brazilian stories have replaced the
lastest two at:

    http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

They are:

B 840150 Fethry Kid "The Very Lone Ranger" 9 pages
Writer: Arthur Faria Jr. (hey, it's me!)
Artist: Irineu Soares Rodrigues

And the "famous" DD's marriage story (it's 30 pages
in 4 parts. I uploaded only the first part,
the next ones will be uploaded soon):

BC SOD 1 - Cover of "S?rie Ouro Disney" # 1
(1st edition, 1987)

B 870024 "Donald Duck's Marriage - Part 1: The Proposal"
Writer: ?
Art: Irineu Soares Rodrigues

There is also an Italian version of this story in
Marco Barlotti's page at:

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/censurati/Matrimonio/Paperino/index.html

So if you can read Italian you will be able to compare
the translation; mine (including ugly errors) is as close as
possible of the original Portuguese texts.

    Enjoy!
    Tchau,
    --Arthur.

** Farewell and thanks, unca Carl! **
-------------------------------------





From sko at acoustics.dk  Fri Sep  1 11:27:48 2000
From: sko at acoustics.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Krarup Olesen)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:27:48 +0200
Subject: New Brazilian Disney stories on the Web!
In-Reply-To: <002901c013df$c738d840$1dabfbc8@default>
References: <002901c013df$c738d840$1dabfbc8@default>
Message-ID: <00090111324001.14012@localhost.localdomain>

ARTHUR:

>     Two more Brazilian stories have replaced the
> lastest two at:
> 
>     http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/
> 
> B 840150 Fethry Kid "The Very Lone Ranger" 9 pages
> Writer: Arthur Faria Jr. (hey, it's me!)
> Artist: Irineu Soares Rodrigues

Interesting stuff, Arthur. I only knew *one* Rodrigues namely Moacir
Soares Rodrigues (great artist BTW, he drew an excellent Goofy). Do you
know the "connection" between the two, any family relation or something?

Søren



From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Fri Sep  1 12:05:55 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:05:55 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa in Spain
Message-ID: <015201c013fc$38e211c0$95446f0a@sfpc0112.ral.uef.es>

Dear comrades:

A friend of mine has scanned a newspaper article about recent visit Don Rosa
payed to Galicia, Spain. I've tried to translate it to English - making a
big effort - and it's available at http://195.57.24.11:8080/, along with a
photograph of Don.

Note: The original text is full of inaccurate (or even false) facts; I've
translated it just literally.

Greetings,

Santiago.






From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  1 14:24:55 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:24:55 +0300
Subject: KOMIX # 147 INDEX
Message-ID: <OE18rOc0Ne0PaLI9mK6000000e7@hotmail.com>

INDEX OF KOMIX # 147 ISSUE
Stories:
The Universal Solvent, by Don Rosa
US Olympic Photo Finish, by Daniel Branca
Perilous Partneship, by Freddy Milton
The Egg Collector, by Esteban

Articles:
Travel beneath the Ground
A Scientific Tale (a Don Rosa's interview)
Disney & Eisenstein
The olympic album of KOMIX
Disney's digital dinosaurs
Carl Barks ladies

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Sep  1 15:49:33 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 14:49:33 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa in Spain
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075C98@l04.research.kpn.com>

> a newspaper article about recent visit Don Rosa
> payed to Galicia, Spain.
> http://195.57.24.11:8080/, 
> Note: The original text is full of inaccurate (or even false) 
> facts; I've translated it just literally.

How can someone make so many needless and irritating errors in such a small
article?

--Harry.



From mani at sci.fi  Fri Sep  1 14:51:57 2000
From: mani at sci.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:51:57 +0300
Subject: Readers in Finland
In-Reply-To: <200009011000.MAA07580@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000901155157.008666c0@mani.pop.sci.fi>

"timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>:
>>Aku Ankka's circulation is 260 104
>
>1999 it was yet 282 000. Is it hurling down?

I don't know but that is at least the number Helsinki Media gives on its
site: http://www.helsinkimedia.fi/hmc/hmc.nsf/HTMLPages/7310_fin

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at sci.fi)
http://www.sci.fi/~mani/eindex.htm
Finnish Disney-publications:
http://www.sci.fi/~mani/esarja.htm



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  1 17:54:13 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:54:13 +0300
Subject: Goodbye Uncle Carl
Message-ID: <OE10Y0QUUBPcZi71mrv00000194@hotmail.com>

It was August 27th when a friend of mine sent a message to my mobile phone
telling me the sad news: "Carl Barks died 2 days ago. Chaos is DCML". I
thought it was a joke. When I came back, on Wednesday, I read the last
messages in DCML. It was true, then: Uncle Carl was dead.
Back in June, I read that Carl was ill with leukemia. unfortunately. He was
getting worse and worse. He died fighting the desease
We will never forget the father of Scrooge, Kyro, Gladstone, Beagleboys,
Magica De Spell and many other characters. He never visit Greece, but I hope
he knew that in that small country, handrends of boys and girls was fans of
him. Rest in Peace, Great Artist Carl Barks. I can't say anything else,
'cause I'm so sad........

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From bhc at primenet.com  Fri Sep  1 00:51:36 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:51:36 -0700
Subject: Carl Barks
Message-ID: <f04320400b5d47d4fca4e@[207.218.83.153]>

A short time back (responding to DCML Vol.1 #211) I wrote this about 
Carl Barks:

"...he has been one of the most enduring living icons of the comics 
business, and those of us who have cherished him as well as his work 
will have some...well, adjusting to do, to say the least."

When I was told of Carl's passing, I was alone in the office, it was 
cold and rainy out (unusual for a Prescott, Arizona August), and I 
couldn't quite seem to focus on anything else that day. Reality can 
be dismal.

Two days ago I was in Baltimore at Diamond, in the very special art 
gallery there, where before me was arrayed of some of Carl's greatest 
paintings, all colorful, vibrant, bursting with life. Reality can be 
pure joy.

Death only comes. It is life that triumphs.
-- 
Gary

****************************
"Good night, and may God Bless...good night." - Red Skelton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone



From harias98 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  2 04:41:07 2000
From: harias98 at yahoo.com (hugo arias)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:41:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Subscriptions
Message-ID: <20000902024107.2375.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com>

Dear friends of the list:

I am looking for a Disney comic books subscription.
Somebody could help me, where can I do that.

Regards,

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
http://mail.yahoo.com/




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  2 23:04:58 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 00:04:58 +0300
Subject: The Universal Solvent
Message-ID: <OE36wNIVwqMTgGwZiZz000007d0@hotmail.com>

Is there any DCML member who wants a copy of Komix # 147 with the Don Rosa's
story "Universal Solvent"?

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
email: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage



From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Sat Sep  2 07:55:56 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:55:56 -0300
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_S=F8ren:_The_Rodrigues?=
Message-ID: <000401c01541$efd8e340$e1abfbc8@default>

    S?ren:

>>     Two more Brazilian stories have replaced the
>> lastest two at:
>>
>>     http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/
>>
>> B 840150 Fethry Kid "The Very Lone Ranger" 9 pages
>> Writer: Arthur Faria Jr. (hey, it's me!)
>> Artist: Irineu Soares Rodrigues

>Interesting stuff, Arthur. I only knew *one* Rodrigues namely Moacir
>Soares Rodrigues (great artist BTW, he drew an excellent Goofy). Do you
>know the "connection" between the two, any family relation or something?

    Yes, they are brothers. Actually, according to my
sources, there were *three* brothers Rodrigues working
as pencilers for Abril Jovem: Moacir Rodrigues Soares,
Irineu Soares Rodrigues and Verci de Mello. But don't
ask me why the middle and last names of the formers
are switched, and why the latter has a different last
name. Artist's thing, I guess. ;-)

    -- Arthur.






From efx_al at tin.it  Sun Sep  3 17:51:38 2000
From: efx_al at tin.it (Fabio "Efx" Rossi)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:51:38 +0200
Subject: R: New Brazilian Disney stories on the Web!
Message-ID: <009301c015be$de3ec8c0$c15aabd4@dblgro>

Hi all!

I'm italian Disney fan.
Congratulations for this story, I'm very honoured to post this message to the author of "The very lone ranger".
are you a brazilians Disney writer (professional)?


For other story, this is a censured story in Italy and was published only once.
Italian artist have added a balloon that indicated:"dream story", not real.


    -----Messaggio originale-----
    Da: Arthur Faria Jr. <arthurfaria at projesom.com.br>
    A: DcML <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
    Data: venerd? 1 settembre 2000 8.41
    Oggetto: New Brazilian Disney stories on the Web!
    
    
        Hi, All!
    
        Two more Brazilian stories have replaced the
    lastest two at:
    
        http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/
    
    They are:
    
    B 840150 Fethry Kid "The Very Lone Ranger" 9 pages
    Writer: Arthur Faria Jr. (hey, it's me!)
    Artist: Irineu Soares Rodrigues
    
    And the "famous" DD's marriage story (it's 30 pages
    in 4 parts. I uploaded only the first part,
    the next ones will be uploaded soon):
    
    BC SOD 1 - Cover of "S?rie Ouro Disney" # 1
    (1st edition, 1987)
    
    B 870024 "Donald Duck's Marriage - Part 1: The Proposal"
    Writer: ?
    Art: Irineu Soares Rodrigues
    
    There is also an Italian version of this story in
    Marco Barlotti's page at:
    
    http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/censurati/Matrimonio/Paperino/index.html
    
    So if you can read Italian you will be able to compare
    the translation; mine (including ugly errors) is as close as
    possible of the original Portuguese texts.
    
        Enjoy!
        Tchau,
        --Arthur.
    
    ** Farewell and thanks, unca Carl! **
    -------------------------------------
    
    

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From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Mon Sep  4 09:20:54 2000
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:20:54 -0700
Subject: To all my Disney contacts
Message-ID: <04d801c01640$a9f508e0$4a1c9eca@arie-fachrisal>

Hi all,
I'm using this list for my personal matters a moment.
My PC has broken down and i'm using my old PC.
But i can't get the e-mail addresses.
So to Eta, Luis, Duco, AC, and anybody else. I'
ll contact  you as soon as my pc's fixed\.
Its been a week now.
Gosh, days without pc is a torture to me.
Guess i'm already enslaved by technology, huh? :)

Best,
Arie Fachrisal
--------------------
"Not up to those above, but above those below"
--------------------




From scraill at methven.net  Mon Sep  4 06:25:02 2000
From: scraill at methven.net (Shaun Craill)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:25:02 +1200 
Subject: Unca Carl
Message-ID: <6F9D362C1930D3119D8F0090274DFE5D1DD597@MTHNTAPP>

I have been very moved by many of the words people have said over the last
week or so.  I'm very thankful for Gerry who allowed so many of us to say
what we wanted to say to Carl himself and now I am grateful to this mailing
list which allows so many people so far apart to share their sorrow.

A giant Kauri has fallen in the forest.  Under it's branches it provided
shelter and a place to grow.  Now thousands of seedlings, many of them it's
own children, will be able to grow and flourish in their own time.

Regards
Shaun Craill




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Mon Sep  4 00:54:49 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:54:49 -0300
Subject: Donald's marriage-Brazilian History
Message-ID: <003501c015f9$fb81c640$15dbbfc8@v2h5i1>


From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Sep  4 07:53:55 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:53:55 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: KOMIX #147
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0009040852540.27961-100000@poseidon>

Here's what's in the September issue of Komix:

* Cover by Jim Franzen. I have put a scan in
  http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix147.jpg
* A 2 1/2 page article titled "Journey to the bowels of the Earth",
  subtitled "From Jules Verne to Don Rosa the myth remains fascinating".
* A one-page article titled "A scientific fairy tale", subtitled "Don Rosa
  talks to Komix about the Universal Solvent".
* Don Rosa's "The Universal Solvent".
* A two-page article titled "Esenstein and Disney", subtitled "Sergei
  Eisenstein tells about his meeting with Walt Disney".
* "US Olympic Photo Finish" (D 6018) drawn by Branca.
* A two-page article titled "KOMIX' Olympic album", subtitled "Higher,
  faster, stronger, funnier!"
* Fred Milton's "Perilous Partnership" (H85219).
* A 1 1/2 page article titled "Disney's digital dinosaurs", subtitled
  "this journey to the past is a great promise for the future".
* "The Egg Collector" (D94108), Written by David Gerstein and drawn by Esteban.
* A two-page article titled "Carl Barks' ladies", subtitled "From
  the Calgary girls to Magica de Spell".

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I don't make threats; but I *do* keep promises!"
-----




From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Sep  4 07:56:45 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:56:45 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Article from Komix #146
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0009040853580.27970-100000@poseidon>

This is the translation of an article from last month's Komix, which may
be of some interest to the list. [As usual, comments in square brackets
are my own.]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

		 A Duck upsets Superman's world.
                      SUPERHERO FOR A DAY

  In 1949, Barks gave Donald the amazing power of superheroes, who had
  just begun appearing in the pages of comic books. In 1992, Rosa repeats
  the endeavor, giving Donald a second chance.

During the time when Barks gradually began forming Donald Duck's universe,
the appearance of a new type of heroes radically upset the world of
American comics. A bunch of strange characters, with weird powers and
an even weirder taste in clothes, invaded the pages of magazines.


CHARGE OF THE SUPERHEROES

In June 1938, in the first issue of _Action Comics_ magazine, the
first adventure of Superman, by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster, was
published. This new hero wore a characteristic tight blue outfit with
a red cape and had superhuman powers, which he put immediately in the
service of Good...  Superman's success was only the beginning. In the
next year he gets his own magazine, with the same name, as well as his
first imitators and rivals: In April 1939 Namor the Submariner appears,
the first adventures of Bob Cane's Batman appear in May, and the first
issue of _Marvel Comics_, with the adventures of Carl Burgos' Human
Torch is published in November. 1940 is the year of Captain Marvel,
the Daredevil, and the Atom; in 1941 Green Arrow, Aquaman, and Joe Simon
and Jack Kirby's Captain America will make their appearance.

The superheroes of this first generation had, usually, hardly realistic
powers or ultramodern equipment, which they would put in the service
of the fight against crime or--mainly after the US involvement in the
Second World War--against the Nazis and their allies. They were wearing
impressive costumes of dubious taste, and their characters were even
more than one-dimensional and sketchy. Besides, their public demanded no
more... What counted was how they could crush the most hardened criminals
and the most combat-ready Nazi divisions with one blow. This was a form
of consolation for the readers, who were living what were perhaps the
most dramatic moments of the twentieth century.


THE DUCKS' COUNTERATTACK

In August 1949, Carl Barks felt the need to comment on the superhero
fashion.  In the ten-page story titled _Super Snooper_, Donald catches his
nephews reading a comic book with the adventures of super Snooper. It is,
of course, a comic book published only in Duckburg, but Super Snooper is
strongly reminiscent of his colleagues, who almost monopolize the comics
of that era.  He "jumps over giant buildings, smashes brick walls with
his fists and knocks over whole armies with his breath", say the nephews
[actually Donald] in the story. Donald, who thinks that his nephews take
these absurdities seriously, drinks a radioactive isotope, capable of
making "a rat as strong as a horse", by mistakes, and acquires amazing
powers. He levels forests with a one blow, runs faster than light,
ties the tails of two passing comets into a knot...  Unfortunately,
however, the effect of the isotope passes at the moment he was preparing
to demonstrate his powers to his nephews. Crashing on a wall, he falls
unconscious and, when he recovers, he no longer remembers anything...

Carl Barks is not satirizing stories with superheroes as much as he
is satirizing those readers who do not realize that all these are just
fairly tales. "Unca' Donald thought we believed that stuff in the Super
Snooper stories... He thought we didn't know Super Snooper's stunts
were impossible", comment the kids in the page before last of Barks'
story. In the end, they throw away their magazine in the trash. This
kind of reading material is dangerous for adults who don't know how to
read a fairy tale correctly...


HEROES AND ANTIHEROES

In _Super Snooper Strikes Again_, Don Rosa returns to the same subject,
but from a different angle. "Unca Donald is an old fuddy-duddy... Imagine
anyone thinking Super Snooper isn't strictly super duper", wonder the
kids in the first page of Barks' story. This phrase summarizes the main
theme on which Don will also develop his story: the comparison between
a hardly heroic reality and the epic, though completely unreal, universe
of the superheroes.

Donald acquires superhuman powers once more, and tries to show off to his
nephews. This time, he realizes that even of it had been possible for
one to acquire superpowers, they would have been rather useless in the
real world.  To be precise, the only time that these powers come in handy,
is when he manages to correct a nearly fatal mistake that he made during
his desperate excitement. As in Barks' story, his nephews don't realize
anything, but they do learn their lesson. In the end, it becomes obvious
that even the most heroic comic book superhero is worth nothing compared
to loved, though hardly heroic, uncle in flesh, bones and feathers... For
Rosa, comic books are not an escape from reality. As it was for Barks,
comics are an art that help us face reality with humor (and more...).

[Caption, page 1]
Following his policy of "continuing" Barks' work, Don Rosa draws a story
with superhero Donald, 43 years later.

[Caption, page 2, left]
FOR COLLECTORS WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR
When editor John Clark asked Don Rosa to draw a cover for _Walt Disney
Giant_ magazine, in which _Super Snooper Strikes Again_ would be printed,
he submitted a draft drawing which was a parody of the cover of the
first issue of _Superman_ magazine in 1939. Unfortunately, however,
it was considered that the joke might not have been understood by the
less informed readers, and the idea was rejected at the last moment.

[Captions, page 2, right]
Rosa makes some enjoyable references to Barks' original story by redrawing
some classic panels from the '49 story.

Donald discovers his superhero powers in Barks' story, and Rosa redraws the
panel with little change.

The raising of a shipwreck by Carl Barks in 1949 and by Don Rosa, 43 years
later.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I don't make threats; but I *do* keep promises!"
-----




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Mon Sep  4 16:26:55 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:26:55 +0200 
Subject: A dream
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E25B1046@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>

On the 24th of August of 2000, shortly before midnight, Carl Barks fell
asleep. And he started to dream.

In his dream, he found himself in Old California, in the hall of a mid-19th
Century hacienda. A big celebration was going on, an incredible fiesta. Carl
thought "A fancy-dress party, maybe?"

But soon he realized that he knew most of the people he met: friends from
his childhood in Oregon, fellow workers in all of the trades he had tried
throughout his life... riveters, cartoon animators, scriptwriters,
comic-book editors... long-forgotten neighbors and acquaintances... and,
mixed in the crowd, Carl spotted many dog-nosed , pig-faced, duck-billed
people - and it all seemed perfectly normal to him.

Everybody looked at him and smiled, as if he were the guest of honour of the
party. And he entered a huge room, where a long table had been set for a
luxurious dinner. And sitting at the table were all his relatives, from his
grandparents to his great-great-grandsons, and all the people he had most
loved throughout the years, and amongst them he saw also the familiar
figures of Gladstone, Gyro Gearloose, the Beagle Boys, the Junior
Woodchucks... and he caught a fascinating, Sofia-Loren-like Magica de Spell
winking at him.

And a pig-faced Mayor led Carl to the place of honor, where two seats were
still vacant... Carl asked him "Are all of these people celebrating for ME
?" And the Mayor smiled, and said "Oh, you've seen nothing yet... just take
a look out of the window !" And in an endless patio Carl saw millions and
millions of people from all over the world, children and grownups, all
cheering at him and waving well-read copies of his comic books... and he
also saw Donald and the kids, dancing a dance of celebration....

Awestruck, Carl asked: "But who is going to pay for this unbelievable
feast?" And the Mayor: "Oh, money is not a problem for our host... he has a
few cubic acres to spare, you should now..."
And Scrooge McDuck entered the room, and went to sit next to Carl, and told
him: "After this little banquet is over, I'm leaving with Donald and the
kids for a long, long trip around the world... I'm planning to visit all my
industries in the five continents, and also go back to the places where we
lived our adventures, and - of course - look for other things to see, other
adventures to live. I'm looking for a guy to write the travel journal, and I
hear you're quite good at such stuff... Would you like to join us ? I can
pay you 30 cents per hour, nothing more, but you have an eternity of hours
in front of you..."
And Carl Barks smiled, and shook hands with the old duck, and the crowd
cheered.

At a quarter past midnight, on August 25th, 2000, the dream continued on.

Sleep well, uncle Carl...

Ciao,
Armando



From fstajano at uk.research.att.com  Mon Sep  4 16:40:53 2000
From: fstajano at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:40:53 +0100
Subject: A dream
In-Reply-To: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E25B1046@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it
 >
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000904154012.02ffb1c8@localhost>

At 2000-09-04 16:26 +0200, Botto Armando wrote:
>At a quarter past midnight, on August 25th, 2000, the dream continued on.
>
>Sleep well, uncle Carl...

E bravo Armando!

  Frank (filologo disneyano)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Sep  4 18:45:34 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:45:34 +0200
Subject: Carl Barks
Message-ID: <39B3D1AE.1828981B@libero.it>

Hello,

I was planning not to write my feelings about Barks death to the
list, mainly because I didn't know how to express them, but since
I read your ones I had the strong feeling of being part of a
great community, as someone already noticed. And with this
community I want to share my 2 cents about how bad I felt in
reading Gerry's mail.

Just like you (you all it seems) I was introduced to (Disney)
comics because of Carl's work: I was born in 1969 and one of my
first memories of reading comics is the dam-cracking scene from
"Only a poor old man", that I probably read on "Vita e dollari di
Paperon de Paperoni". When I saw that panel I felt (and still
feel) exalted for the great power that it expresses, and I
remember I also felt a little bit sorry for the man who had to
draw so many details... and did it in such a great way...

I also remember myself reading the golden fleecing story or "The
Old Castle's Secret" during summer at my cousin's home where I
was used to read his copy of "Io Paperone"... 

Carl Barks not only taught me to read, but also to dream, with
his adventurous stories, and also to be a better man, as someone
already wrote on this list, with his vision of human qualities
and faults.

Ciao, uncle Carl, you won't be forgotten, and I hope you won't be
upset if I repeat what Shaun Craill wrote in his mail and that
seems to me to be the best way to face the whole thing:

  A giant Kauri has fallen in the forest.  
  Under it's branches it provided shelter 
  and a place to grow.  
  Now thousands of seedlings, 
  many of them it's own children, 
  will be able to grow 
  and flourish in their own time.

Ciao,

  - Paolo

-- 
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"Is that my third dish of oatmeal, nephew, or my fourth? I can't
see the table for tears!"
(US in "A Christmas for Shacktown")




From timoro at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  4 20:32:09 2000
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:32:09 EEST
Subject: Barks
Message-ID: <F248Rf6Ci6nx8dyDd3O00002499@hotmail.com>

Hi!

Do you have personal memories, anecdotes, or anything like that about Carl 
Barks? Please send them to me. I am trying to collect them into one article 
which I´ll publish in my Duck/Barks/Disney -fanzine "Ankkalinnan Pamaus".

Thanks for your efforts in advance!

Timo Ronkainen

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From efx_al at tin.it  Mon Sep  4 21:11:58 2000
From: efx_al at tin.it (Fabio "Efx" Rossi)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:11:58 +0200
Subject: R: Donald's marriage-Brazilian History
Message-ID: <002201c016a3$fff80ae0$db5aabd4@dblgro>

Gulp!
 thanks for this information.
In fact, Marco write that a ballon was added by italian and not appeared in original story.
    
    
    In fact, in the original and first time that this historie is published in
    Brazil, it has the ballons. For some reason, only in the second time that it
    is republished, the ballons dissappeared. So the ballons came from the
    original brazilian edition, and it is not added by any italian
    artist, as appear into the Marco Barlotti's
    page(http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/censurati/Matrimonio/Paperino/inde
    x.html.)!
    
    Fernando!
    
    

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From cnotw at zen.it  Mon Sep  4 23:04:08 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:04:08 +0100
Subject: R: Barks
Message-ID: <20000904212545Z149767-57424+4@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, Timo, and all!
You wrote:
> 
> Do you have personal memories, anecdotes, or anything like that about Carl
> Barks? Please send them to me. I am trying to collect them into one article
> which I?ll publish in my Duck/Barks/Disney -fanzine "Ankkalinnan Pamaus".
>
> Thanks for your efforts in advance!

Well, The italian mag "Fumo di China" is planning to to dedicate a special
issue to Uncle Carl, scheduled to come out in November in the newsstands.
The anecdotes, comments and other things, 'd be very welcomed, if you think
that they could be used for both the publications.
I send a peculiar message to the Italian friends of the list, whose
collaboration shall be very "gradita" by the 'Fumo di China"'s staff.

Sincerely,

Luca Boschi  



From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Tue Sep  5 00:12:50 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:12:50 -0300
Subject: Fabio Rossi: Brazilian stories
Message-ID: <010e01c016be$06e45b00$49abfbc8@default>

    Fabio Rossi wrote:

>I'm italian Disney fan.
>Congratulations for this story (...)
>are you a brazilians Disney writer (professional)?

Thanks, Fabio. Yes, I am a Disney writer (or I used
to be, since Brazilian local production is quite
"unstable" nowadays -- they no longer want new scripts
since last July. Perhaps next year...)

I wrote B 840150 "A Very Lone Ranger" ("Um cavaleiro
muito solit?rio" in the original) in October 1984. It's
of course a spoof of "The Lone Ranger", because I like very
much to make parodies -- before I start writing Disney, I
used to make a lot of comic stories (just for fun, not
professionally, not Disney) which were parodies of movies,
TV series, super heroes and so on...

>For other story, this is a censured story in Italy and was published =
>only once.
>Italian artist have added a balloon that indicated:"dream story", not =
>real.

Do you mean the "cloudy" lines surrounding each page, except
page 1 and 30? They are in the original Portuguese, too
(first edition, 1987) as you can see in the scans...
BTW, at: http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry
This story was published in a five-issue series "S?rie
Ouro Disney", with only "dream" stories. The others
stories featured Jos? Carioca as a rich executive,
Goofy as a Hollywood star, Madam Mim dating The Phantom
Blot, and Fethry Duck as Duckburg's Mayor (I'm willing
to put this one on the Web in the future...)

    Tchau,
    -- Arthur.




From fstajano at uk.research.att.com  Tue Sep  5 02:28:50 2000
From: fstajano at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 01:28:50 +0100
Subject: Homage to Carl Barks (long)
In-Reply-To: <20000904212545Z149767-57424+4@merganser.its.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000904231802.030002c0@localhost>

I finally completed my homage to the Great Master -- an inadequate and 
belated but sincerely heartfelt thank you that was several sleepless nights 
in the making. The more personal part of it appears below. The full thing, 
complete with many original photographs, is at

http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/disney/barks/



He could do magic

One day of many years ago I decided that I couldn't be so lucky as to be 
alive at the same time as Carl Barks without letting him know how grateful 
I was for the joy he had given me with his masterpieces, so I decided to 
write him a letter.

Of course I had no idea of where to send it, so I tried inquiring at the 
Walt Disney company in Burbank, California. I got a polite reply saying 
that they could not give out the personal addresses of any of the artists 
(fair enough) but that I could send my letter to them and they would 
forward it. I had not done this before because I feared that by writing to 
Carl Barks c/o Disney the letter might just be filed away in some archive 
without him ever seeing it. But when they explicitly told me that they 
would pass it along, I went ahead.

I knew that my hero was in his nineties and I imagined that, with the 
number of people in the world who loved his stories, he would get several 
such messages a day; so I certainly did not expect a personal reply. I was 
just happy for him to know that, somewhere on another continent, there was 
yet another reader who really, really liked his work.

I can't even begin to describe how surprised, excited and happy I was when, 
some time later, I received a letter from him! It's just beyond words. This 
man, one of the greatest authors of our century, and one of the people I 
admired most in the world, had taken the time and trouble to write a 
personal letter to a nobody like me! I was over the moon.

We exchanged a few more letters and then, in 1994, I finally got a chance 
to meet him when he visited London as part of his seven-week tour of Europe 
-- he was 93 years old and this was the first time in his life that he was 
out of America! In fact he later wrote to Italian Disney author Carlo 
Chendi that he was happy to have been able to do this trip "while he was 
still young". And he was indeed: he was in excellent physical shape, stood 
tall and straight, and walked without a cane. (During that tour, while in 
Italy he even piloted a motor boat in Lake Como!) He reminded me very much 
of my own grandfather who was slightly older than him (born in 1898) and 
was at the time still equally fit, going out for his regular walk every day.

His visit to that Disney store in London resolved into a two-hour signing 
session, with people queuing up to get his autograph on a comic or on one 
of the leaflets that were available in store advertising the latest 
lithograph from one of his paintings -- a long, horizontal one, based on 
the Golden Fleecing story, that I would see again years later in his living 
room. I asked him to sign the large hardbound volume of Uncle Scrooge 
stories that was one of my most prized possessions when I was little. I 
also took some photographs of him and I got an employee of the store to 
take one of us together. I later send him double copies by mail and he 
returned mine signed. I then framed them and hung them in my living room, 
where they have been since.

Getting to meet him in person was at first perhaps even more extraordinary 
than receiving the letter: there he was, in the flesh, smiling at me. Wow! 
I was so thrilled, even if my quota of time next to him was only of a 
couple of minutes or so. I barely had time to say my name (so that he could 
write it in the dedication) and that I loved his stories, and then it was 
the turn of the next person in the queue. He later wrote to me that, 
unsurprisingly, he had not realised who I was, but that he made the 
connection when he got the pictures in the mail.

Many things happened over the next few years and I lost touch with him. I 
later learned that his "managers" intercepted his mail and that I must have 
been a dodgy character to their eyes because of my association with Don 
Rosa, whom I even visited in 1996 when I was writing a book about him with 
Leonardo Gori and Alberto Becattini. In retrospect, this explains why I no 
longer received any replies from Carl Barks during that period. I shall not 
go into the sad details of the whole story of the Carl Barks Studio, but 
suffice it to say that it all ended up in court and that the bad guys 
eventually disappeared, to everyone else's relief. Those who know the 
background appreciate the "champ" back cover of Uncle Scrooge 314, which 
says it all without the need for words.

In my next letter I suggested to Carl Barks that, now that circumstances 
had changed, the time might be right for a meeting with Don Rosa, who had 
always been one of his most devoted fans. This happened a little later: my 
friend Michael Naiman, another great fan of both authors, accompanied Don 
in his visit to Carl's home in Grants Pass, Oregon, and wrote a brief but 
inspired article about the meeting which apppeared in what unfortunately 
turned out to be the next-to-last published issue (317) of Uncle Scrooge. 
(I hope that I will have to correct this last sentence in the future.)

It was at Michael's home in San Diego in 1998 that I first heard about 
Gerry Tank. Michael had been arranging for Barks fans from all over the 
world to send in little notes for Carl's 97th birthday. He collected all 
the cards and ancillaries (someone had even sent a bottle of liquor) in a 
big parcel that he forwarded to Gerry in Grants Pass, who would take Carl 
out to dinner for his birthday and deliver the surprise box to him. Gerry 
had been the doctor of Carl's wife Gar?; he lived not far from the Duck Man 
and visited him regularly. On the day I arrived at Michael's, him and Gerry 
had an animated telephone conversation about some incredible problems, 
worthy of Donald Duck's worst day, that had sent this important parcel 
missing (I am over-simplifying). To anyone whose birthday card was in that 
bundle: you have no idea of what Michael and Gerry went through to ensure 
that it would be delivered against all odds! But all went well in the end, 
and Carl was very pleased to feel the warmth and affection of so many fans 
he almost didn't know he had.

Gerry and I then got in touch via email. Leonardo Gori and I were writing 
another book on Disney comics, this time focused on Mickey Mouse author 
Floyd Gottfredson. I sent Gerry a list of questions we had prepared and he 
interviewed Carl for us. That, too, was a brilliant experience, despite the 
indirection.

But the best was yet to come. Later that year I had to visit the States 
again to speak at a conference; so, with Gerry's invaluable logistic help, 
I took a detour to Oregon for the weekend to visit my hero. The plane that 
was meant to take me from New Jersey to Oregon had a malfunction in 
midflight, so we were flown back to Newark and I had to get on a plane to 
California the next day, and then on a connecting flight to Oregon. I felt 
of course damn lucky not to have crashed (!) but I was also furious that 
this unique chance to spend some time with Carl Barks was being cut short. 
After repeated airport delays, and too many phone calls to my patient 
contact, I finally landed in Medford, Oregon where Gerry had come to pick 
me up. He drove me to Grants Pass, I checked into a local motel and we 
finally arrived at Carl's home in mid-afternoon.

You can well imagine that at that point I was essentially in paradise. Carl 
was in excellent shape and welcomed Gerry and me into his living room. 
Betty, one of his helpers, was also there. I was almost petrified with joy. 
We started to talk about this and that, I retold my adventure of the broken 
plane that had to make a U-turn in midair, then Carl asked about the 
conference that I was going to attend next and I opened my bags to show 
them the large laminated posters I had prepared for it. I also started to 
take out a variety of silly presents that I had brought along: I felt that 
this man had given me so much that I wanted to bring in the moral 
equivalent of an Easter egg the size of a large safe! As we were back 
chatting in the armchairs after I had spread the content of my suitcases 
over the floor of his living room, he suggested that I bring my luggage 
downstairs. I explained that I had already checked in at the Super-8 Motel 
(I still have their plastic card from that afternoon, by the way) and that 
we had only brought the suitcases along because they were full of this 
stuff that was meant for him. At that point he insisted in the friendliest 
of ways that I should be his guest and stay at his house, that he had 
plenty of room, that there was absolutely no reason for me to stay 
elsewhere and that I should cancel my booking at the motel.

So I was taken downstairs to the suite that had been Gar? Barks's, with 
Carl assuring me that I would be fine here, and I just could not believe 
it. Could not believe it! Come on, I'll take a real plane crash if that's 
what I get afterwards! If I had felt like entering paradise when he greeted 
me on his front door with his friendly smile, now I was being taken to the 
highest clouds and given the golden keys by the boss!

Carl then took us to his study; it was very luminous despite being one 
floor down from the main entrance, because the house was built on a hill. 
Brushes and painting colours everywhere. Framed duck pictures on the walls, 
but he explained that they were only lithographs (he only had one original 
duck painting in the entire house). By far the most impressive item in the 
room was Carl's famous easel, seen in so many photographs, made of white 
perforated board of the kind normally used to hang power tools to the 
garage wall. In the style of Gyro Gearloose, Carl had designed and 
customised it to make it suit his work style and his necessities. A smaller 
perforated panel could be used to hold smaller paintings at an angle. A 
movable "balcony", a bit like the gizmo used by New York window cleaners, 
could be positioned in the most comfortable place across this panel to act 
as a hand rest. "My hand is no longer that steady", he explained, "but if I 
rest it on this I can still work on the fine details." And finally the 
cutest trick of all: a long wooden stick ending in a hook that he could 
attach to any hole on the board to provide an easily moved support. This 
allowed him to reach any point of a large painting without going to the 
trouble of detaching and repositioning the "balcony".

His study was also full of comics with his stories, not only the American 
ones but also many foreign editions, including the large hardbound Io, 
Paperone that I had brought for him to sign in London (this is the volume 
he is leafing through in the picture with Gerry and Betty), as well as 
translations of these Italian Mondadori volumes from the Seventies in many 
other languages. At my request we then visited the back room where he kept 
his famous collection of National Geographic magazines (I thought of my 
grandmother, a miniaturist painter, who used to love them too, and she had 
almost as many). What a thrill to see the magazines that had taken Carl 
Barks's mind around the world, in preparation for the adventures of his ducks!

That same afternoon Betty took me into town with the car, first to the 
motel to cancel my reservation and then to a Radio Shack to buy a power 
supply for one of the toys I had brought for Carl. The British power supply 
that came with the gadget was of course unusable in America because of the 
different voltage. The gizmo was a special clock that looked like a musical 
metronome with its oscillating stick, but the stick had a row of LEDs that 
displayed time, date and a scrolling message in the air as the clock 
ticked. It was originally meant to count down the number of days until the 
end of the millennium, but I had reprogrammed the message to say "xxx days 
till Carl is 100". We had a good time getting it to work and setting the 
correct time on it once we got back home.

That evening, the four of us went out to a very fine restaurant, where Carl 
generously treated us to some delicious fish dishes. I had a sturgeon, 
which I had previously only seen in encyclopaedias. Then back home, and to 
bed. In that bed! It was almost too much of an honour to lie down on it. 
What a day!

The following day I met another one of Carl's helpers, the Helen Hunicke 
who also acted as his secretary and who had in fact typed that first letter 
I received from Carl many years before. I was very pleased to meet her at 
last. She had brought along a nice painting of a pretty girl with a dog 
sled (yes, just like in "North of the Yukon"). The interesting bit was that 
apparently the girl really existed, was a champion dog sled racer, and 
was... Helen's granddaughter! Helen looked much too young to be a 
grandmother, let alone one with a 20 year old granddaughter, so I thought 
she was pulling my leg. But no, it was all true... Exciting life!

Another interesting thing that Helen did had to do with a therapeutic 
potion made from a tropical fruit called Noni, whose healthy virtues she 
extolled. I was offered a small glass to try, but I found the taste so 
horrible that I couldn't finish it. Carl, instead, drank his like a good 
boy. Since he had it regularly every day, his health and longevity would 
have probably made an excellent testimonial for the makers of this beverage.

I spent the morning interviewing Carl for the book about him I will write 
one day (probably with Leonardo again -- but this time it's got to be in 
English!). His nicest words were for his dear wife Gar?. Hanging on the 
wall in front of us was a really beautiful painting of a mountain lake with 
deer. One of hers. "She was born with only this much of a left arm. No 
hand.", he told me. "When her parents saw the newborn baby without a hand, 
they cried." Then he pointed at the painting, explaining how she had to do 
everything she did, including of course painting, with just one hand. The 
love in his eyes, in his body language, in his words, was moving. He 
communicated the joy of the achievement of having created such beauty 
despite the handicap. "When her parents saw THIS, they cried." We both 
laughed, perhaps because we were about to cry too. He really made me feel 
the strength of their bond. It was beautiful.

Carl, Helen and I went out for lunch and had a good time. I seem to recall 
that we talked about our families. Back home, Carl had some rest in front 
of the television (he liked to watch sports programmes) and I went out for 
a little walk in the neighbourhood.

Later that afternoon Carl received the visit of another fan, a doctor 
called Richard Huemer, whose father (also Richard Huemer) had worked at 
Disney as an animator and had been story director for Fantasia. Richard had 
brought with him two interesting artefacts from his father's things: a 
piece of original artwork from Snow White and a wonderful sketchbook. In 
the photograph he is showing us something from the sketchbook and under it 
he holds the framed artwork in his lap. Gerry also joined us, bringing 
along some yummy takeaway food (roast chicken or something like that) and 
we spent an enjoyable evening around the dinner table discussing subjects 
ranging from animation to travelling to medicine to cryptography.

The next morning Carl, Gerry, Helen and I went out for breakfast, which I 
thought was a real treat! Eggs, pancakes and other delicious things that I 
considered fairly exotic (in fact, very comic-book-like) for a breakfast. 
These were our last few hours together and I felt as if I were in a 
beautiful dream with the sad sensation that I was soon going to wake up. I 
told Carl about a vivid memory from my childhood of diving in a mountain of 
golden wheat when I was perhaps 6 or 7 (at the time my grandfather owned 
some wheat fields), and burrowing in it like a gopher, and tossing it in 
the air thinking that I was like Uncle Scrooge.

As we got back home, while Carl was coming out of the car a coin fell out 
of his pocket. I picked it up and gave it to him, but he told me to keep 
it. "My lucky dime!", I said, "given to me by the creator of Uncle 
Scrooge!". One day I will get hold of two velvet cushions and two glass 
bells (I already have two eminently suitable marble columns -- I inherited 
them from my grandparents) and I will place my two lucky dimes where they 
belong. The other one, in case you are wondering, is an 1875 coin given to 
me by Don Rosa.

Back at home I met a third helper of Carl, Anja, who had just spent the 
weekend in Las Vegas with her boyfriend. She had some good Vegas anecdotes 
for us.

Gerry, Helen and Carl drove me to the airport and the time came to say 
goodbye. I flew off to my computer conference in Texas, leaving it one day 
earlier to go to the presentation of my Gottfredson book in Italy. When I 
finally came back home to Cambridge I was exhausted and drained of all 
energy, but happy: I had just lived through some of the most intense days 
of my life. No words can completely describe the ecstatic feeling I 
experienced during these short days. And it had also been heartwarming to 
witness the love and care with which the people near Carl looked after him.

I will never forget the emotion of spending that weekend with Carl Barks. 
Here is one of the greatest men I have ever known, and yet he is so modest 
and unassuming. I am only one out of millions of people in the world who 
are fascinated by his creations, but he makes me feel like a most special 
guest and he welcomes me like a prince. He has a kind heart and a generous, 
contagious smile. As I wrote to him shortly after my visit:

Your ducks will always be there as the testimony of your genius. I trust 
that even hundreds of years from now they will still be reprinted as the 
great classics that they are. You are already immortal as author, artist, 
narrator. What not many people know is how nice and kind you are as a human 
being. I wish I had kids so that I could read them your comics and later 
tell them about you, and inspire their hearts with the story of this 
humble, honest, hard-working man that put a smile on so many millions of 
faces, generation after generation, and yet remained so innocent and modest 
about himself. [...] I'll never forget this visit. And, unless you decide 
at the time that you have more important commitments, as in fact you well 
deserve, I promise I'll be back to take you out for a nice celebration 
dinner when the clock reaches the end of its countdown.

His reply, written a few days before Christmas 1998, mentioned a nasty 
pneumonia that hit him a couple of weeks after my visit, and from which he 
was just recovering:

Well, I am feeling better today. Maybe life will improve soon. The 
millennium clock is still clicking. It gets lots of comments from visitors. 
Today it says "825 days till Carl is 100". I will probably make it.

He almost did. But leukaemia attacked him in 1999, slowly and methodically 
destroying his blood cells; a year later his health started to deteriorate 
fairly rapidly and he asked, with the dignity and wisdom that were so 
deeply engrained in his character, that the medications that were 
prolonging his life be stopped. Gerry acted as a bridge between his fans on 
the Internet and him, forwarding many emails of encouragement, gratefulness 
and love. Carl died a couple of months later, on the 25th of August 2000, 
aged 99. I could not help thinking about the King Khan Khan of one of his 
last and most powerful stories (despite the Tony Strobl artwork) who, after 
having lived for millennia, voluntarily chose to eat the antidote to the 
blue immortality powder.

  Frank (filologo disneyano)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




From l.gori at agora.stm.it  Tue Sep  5 08:27:35 2000
From: l.gori at agora.stm.it (Leonardo Gori)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 08:27:35 +0200
Subject: A dream
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000905082735.008a1860@agora.stm.it>

Armando wrote:

>At a quarter past midnight, on August 25th, 2000, the dream continued on.

and he wrote exactly what I'd like to say if I only could express my
feeling in a good English. Thanks, Armando.
l.gori at agora.stm.it
http://space.tin.it/clubnet/leongori

http://read.at/nerodimaggio

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/6371/



From p.castagno at libero.it  Tue Sep  5 11:05:39 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:05:39 +0200
Subject: A dream
References: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E25B1046@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>
Message-ID: <39B4B763.92AA16B0@libero.it>

Botto Armando wrote:
> Sleep well, uncle Carl...

Thanks, Armando: unforgettable.

  - Paolo

-- 
http://members.xoom.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it




From tuu__a at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  6 15:49:48 2000
From: tuu__a at hotmail.com (Tuukka =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kuusij=E4rvi ?=)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:49:48 GMT
Subject: lecture
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   I must do a lecture in school.subject is Carl Barks and i
   want information!!!
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From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Tue Sep  5 22:35:49 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:35:49 -0300
Subject: Bark's Managers?!
Message-ID: <001101c01778$e47d38a0$1016bfc8@v2h5i1>


From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Wed Sep  6 18:10:22 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:10:22 +0100
Subject: Bark's Managers?!
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075CC0@l04.research.kpn.com>

Fernando:

> What is the real history behind this [Barks'] "managers"?

Well, as Frank already said:

> suffice it to say that it all ended up in court and that the bad guys
> eventually disappeared, to everyone else's relief.

Barks had some managers a few years back, forming "The Carl Barks Studio".
If you want to know the details about their practices, try searching in the
DCML archives for "Grandey". Or "Barks Studio".

--Harry.



From efx_al at tin.it  Wed Sep  6 21:50:03 2000
From: efx_al at tin.it (Fabio "Efx" Rossi)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:50:03 +0200
Subject: Barks memories
Message-ID: <00a101c0183b$a739e420$798e2dd5@dblgro>

for Timo, Luca and all friends of DCML, this is my personal memories.
Unfortunately not in English (my english is very, very bad).


Sono semplici pensieri, li scrissi di getto due giorni dopo la morte di Carl, cio? appena l'ho saputo.
Ho voluto che rimanessero cos?: spontanei, scritti con il cuore, non volevo ripensamenti a mente fredda, se lo facessi snaturerei i sentimenti che mi hanno portato a scriverla.
L'ho scritta per me stesso, non per diffonderla, ma il vostro entusiasmo mi ha contagiato ed allora perch? non rendersene partecipi?



- RICORDI -

L'uomo dei paperi...

con lui se ne v? per sempre una parte di noi,
quella pi? gioiosa,
e forse non ritorner? mai pi?.
Mi piace ricordarlo non per la sua impareggiabile abilit?
ma per la sua umanit?,
non a caso era chiamato Uncle Carl Barks,
questo perch? era considerato da tutti come uno zio.
Non era un semplice disegnatore
ma molto di pi?,
forse con un' enciclopedia si possono descrivere le sue opere
ma di sicuro non esistono le parole adatte per contenere l'uomo.
Tutti noi dobbiamo qualcosa a lui!
Carl possedeva un talento narrativo inimmaginabile,
mentre il suo disegno era semplice,
schietto,
come un bambino;
forse era anche questa la sua forza insieme alle sue storie,
che si dipanavano con incredibile fluidit? e riuscivano a creare
lo stupore,
l'imprevisto,
come quando eravamo piccoli,piccoli ed ogni cosa era nuova,
ora che siamo cresciuti tutto ci appare cos? prevedibile,
cos? banale,
cos? scontato,
ma Barks no!
no! Barks non ? morto.
Sapr? vivere oltre il senso comune della vita,
perch? un uomo sar? morto solo quando non ci sar? pi? nessuno a ricordarlo.
Amo pensare che d'ora in poi vivr?,
e si divertir? tantissimo insieme agli altri grandi vecchi
in quel mondo di sogni che insieme hanno creato.

Ciao Carl


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From JALustig at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 22:24:05 2000
From: JALustig at aol.com (JALustig@aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:24:05 EDT
Subject: Armando's dream--Great!
Message-ID: <b0.a0417a3.26e801e5@aol.com>

Armando, your dream piece about Carl was a beautiful piece of writing and a 
wonderful sentiment. Thank you for sharing it with us. I'd like to think 
that's exactly the way it happened.

I also enjoyed Frank's (l-o-o-o-n-g) reminisces about Carl. The Bark-related 
pictures on your web site were also a treat.

--John Lustig



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  6 22:38:27 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:38:27 CEST
Subject: Barks memories
Message-ID: <F272IWDO3hRDT6Z3Lst00003c87@hotmail.com>

>From: "Fabio \"Efx\" Rossi" <efx_al at tin.it>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Barks memories
>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:50:03 +0200
>
>for Timo, Luca and all friends of DCML, this is my personal memories.
>Unfortunately not in English (my english is very, very bad).

Indeed a good poem! I'm not very good at Italian, and couldn't understand 
all, but the parts I did understand were good. It's sad that he died... Le 
sue storie sono le puo bene.
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From cnotw at zen.it  Thu Sep  7 02:57:48 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 01:57:48 +0100
Subject: R: Barks memories
Message-ID: <20000907002104Z297229-77320+69@merganser.its.uu.se>




for Timo, Luca and all friends of DCML, this is my personal memories.
Unfortunately not in English (my english is very, very bad).

Thank you, Fabio!

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From kyrimis at cti.gr  Thu Sep  7 14:05:19 2000
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:05:19 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject: Celebrating Barks' life
In-Reply-To: <200009071000.MAA09311@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0009071446300.17024-100000@dias>

ALL:

> It's sad that he died...

I'm probably going to get banned from this list, for saying it, but I
feel I have to do it:

Instead of mourning Barks' death, we should be celebrating his life!

How many people do you know who got to live up to their 100th year,
who had (at least) two very productive careers during their life, each
spanning what for a normal person would have been their entire productive
lifetime, who got to share with the world the product of their work during
those lifetimes, and who, for this reason, were loved by (literally)
millions of people?

Corporeal immortality is not a blessing; it is a curse, and one should
not wish to inflict it upon others. Being granted the oportunity to
choose when to leave is far better, and as we all know, Unca Carl was
able to do exactly that.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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From bhc at primenet.com  Thu Sep  7 18:29:26 2000
From: bhc at primenet.com (bhc@primenet.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:29:26 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #256 - 7 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200009071000.MAA09311@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200009071000.MAA09311@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <f04330101b5dd6f8354c1@[206.165.26.1]>

Harry:

>Well, as Frank already said:
>
>  > suffice it to say that it all ended up in court and that the bad guys
>>  eventually disappeared, to everyone else's relief.
>
>Barks had some managers a few years back, forming "The Carl Barks Studio".
>If you want to know the details about their practices, try searching in the
>DCML archives for "Grandey". Or "Barks Studio".

A minor update: Barks' erstwhile managers, Bill Grandey and Kathy 
Morby, after the dissolution of The Carl Barks Studio, went on to 
form, or at least become involved in, The Marc Davis Studio. (Marc 
Davis has since passed away, and I'm not sure that his Studio is 
still in operation.) And just lately they have been in the papers 
concerning projects they state they are now doing for both Disney and 
Warner Brothers. Busy folks.
-- 
Gary

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From markus.sammer at kfunigraz.ac.at  Fri Sep  8 03:52:21 2000
From: markus.sammer at kfunigraz.ac.at (Markus Sammer)
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 03:52:21 +0200
Subject: A dream
Message-ID: <39B84654.48D9318A@kfunigraz.ac.at>

I usually don't post anything on this list, but I have to comment on
Armandos message a few digests past. I've just read it and it moved me
deeply. There were so many wonderful messages concerning uncle Carl's
passing, but this one was outstanding in its beauty - mille grazie,
Armando!

And sleep well indeed, uncle Carl...

Markus





From eirik.sollie at c2i.net  Sun Sep 10 19:31:37 2000
From: eirik.sollie at c2i.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Eirik_J=F8rgensen_Sollie?=)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:31:37 +0200
Subject: Carl Barks
Message-ID: <000101c01b4c$fb107c80$6cedd9c1@oemcomputer>

Hello:

It`s really nice to see that so many want to share their feelings about Carl
Barks. I have not been able to post my own feelings, because I find it
difficult to express them in words. Let me just say that I really love his
comics, and that they have meant a lot to me. I really liked Armandos
thoughts. I also found the message about celebrating  Carl Barks life
sensible. I fully agree. With him, and all of the other contributers on the
list.

Best wishes,
Eirik J?rgensen Sollie




From eirik.sollie at c2i.net  Sun Sep 10 19:42:36 2000
From: eirik.sollie at c2i.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Eirik_J=F8rgensen_Sollie?=)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:42:36 +0200
Subject: e-mail adresses
Message-ID: <000201c01b4e$83c1f760$6cedd9c1@oemcomputer>

Hello:

Finding e-mail adresses, can often be difficult. Then I thought that some of
the list members might be able to help. I am interested in these persons
e-mail adresses, if they have any. If not, I would really like to get their
mail adresses (conventional mail)

Marco Rota
Ben Verhagen
Daan Jippes
Some of the other Italians

Would appreciate any response!

Best wishes,
Eirik J. Sollie




From yotc1958 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 11 15:31:27 2000
From: yotc1958 at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Andy=20Boettcher?=)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: where can I get disney (duck/mouse) comix in NYC?
Message-ID: <20000911133127.21960.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear DCML folks,

Have only recently joined DCML.

As I'm living way off the (disney) comix beaten track
in manga/anime heaven (= disney comix hell) namely:
Japan, I REALLY have trouble getting DISNEY stuff.
I do manage to get the odd BATMAN or SPIDERMAN (albeit
at prices verging on highway robbery)!! But the only
Disney stuff available here is "oh ever so cutesy"
merchandise and paraphernelia (absolutely NO comix)!!

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I'll be in the "Big
Apple" (NYC) 14th - 20th Sept. and in "Koelsch town"
(Cologne, Germany) as well as Duesseldorf 21st - 28th
Sept. 

Can any kind soul out in DCML land give me some tips
on where I can get duck and mouse Disney comix
(original English text) from Gold Key to most recent
Gladstone (incl. CARL BARKS IN COLOUR) at reasonable
prices in these cities (or their vicinity)??

Many thanx in advance to anyone that can help!

Andy Boettcher
(Tokyo)
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From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Mon Sep 11 17:20:10 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:20:10 -0300
Subject: RV: Phantomias?
Message-ID: <000201c01c05$5ed05660$6ce329c8@default>

A friend of mine sent me a gift, a Donald' Anthology's Book named "Die
Stunde des Phantomias". I know we talked sometimes about this character,
but...

Can some of you refresh me about his origin? I think is totally italian, and
a bit of a bizarre concept. I can accept the existence of parallels
universes of ducks. There where they humans exists too, are not my
favorites...

Fabio Blanco
from Patolandia, Argentina
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From mccallumrn at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 11 19:04:13 2000
From: mccallumrn at hotmail.com (Rob and Nancy McCallum)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:04:13 EDT
Subject: Barks Homage
Message-ID: <F22gixKVVgxArrIirz900008f92@hotmail.com>

The following is a message I sent to Mr. Barks about two months before his 
death (courtesy of Michael Naiman).

           Having just been informed of Mr. Barks’ health, I would greatly 
appreciate it if you would forward the following to him.  This section of an 
autobiographical sketch was recently written as part of an adoption process.

           Despite my love of sports (which I shared with my brother but not 
my parents) I also loved to read — anything — science books, adventure 
stories, science fiction, historical novels, biographies and comic books.  
My mother was horrified at my love of comic books, but really couldn’t 
object because I was such a voracious reader of everything.  My father 
actually liked to read comic books as well.  My favorites were not Superman 
and Batman like most other kid.  I found these comics infantile.  I loved 
Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge and I collect these comics to this day.  
Perhaps my single fondest memory from childhood is when Grandma would visit 
and dispense to my brother and I a neat little pile of change (always 
exactly the same amount for each of us) carefully wrapped in tissue paper.  
If I remember correctly the amount was about $1 to $2.  I would take 15¢ 
down to the corner store buy a bottle of ‘pop’ (soda) for a nickel, pay an 
additional 2¢ deposit,  and while drinking my pop, I would peruse the comic 
book shelves always looking for a new Donald Duck or Uncle Scrooge.  If I 
found one I would be in heaven.  I would drink my soda, reclaim my 2¢ 
deposit and take the dime I now had and buy that comic.  The only thing that 
was better when there was two new Donald Duck or Uncle Scrooge comics, I 
would buy one immediately, rush home, beg my mother to allow me to spend 
another dime of Grandma’s money (she almost always said OK after 5 minutes 
of unrelenting begging), and I would rush back to the store to get the 
second comic.  This was double heaven.  Remember that in those days (about 
1953) $2 would buy me 10 sodas and 15 comics!. . . . . My view of heaven is 
basically a movie theater with a comic book store next door full of Disney 
comics.

          Of course the comics I am referring to are Mr. Barks’.  Thank you 
Mr. Barks for providing me with among the happiest moments in my entire 
life!

Rob McCallum

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From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 11 19:14:19 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:14:19 CEST
Subject: RV: Phantomias?
Message-ID: <F2713piZd1SNCjzzTXY00004739@hotmail.com>

>From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>Reply-To: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: RV: Phantomias?
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:20:10 -0300

>A friend of mine sent me a gift, a Donald' Anthology's Book named "Die 
>Stunde des Phantomias". I know we talked sometimes about this character, 
>but...
>
>Can some of you refresh me about his origin? I think is totally italian, 
>and a bit of a bizarre concept. I can accept the existence of parallels 
>universes of ducks. There where they humans exists too, are not my 
>favorites...

"Phantomias"? Chi ?? Paperinik?
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From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Mon Sep 11 22:27:33 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:27:33 -0300
Subject: Phantomias?
Message-ID: <000101c01c31$4b057d00$4be329c8@default>

>"Phantomias"? Chi ?? Paperinik?

Yep! I think so. Donald with mask and like a very wiseguy... or wiseduck.

Fabio Blanco

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From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 12 02:26:05 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:26:05 CEST
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UkU6IL9QaGFudG9taWFzPw==?=
Message-ID: <F266GZ1EWsC9dvAML5K00008063@hotmail.com>

>From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>Reply-To: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: Phantomias?
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:27:33 -0300
>
>>"Phantomias"? Chi ?? Paperinik?
>
>Yep! I think so. Donald with mask and like a very wiseguy... or wiseduck.

Then I guessed right...
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From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Tue Sep 12 12:46:32 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:32 +0200
Subject: Phantomias
In-Reply-To: <200009121000.MAA22725@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000901c01ca6$b6e2f550$34446f0a@ufisf.es>

Fabio:

> A friend of mine sent me a gift, a Donald' Anthology's Book named "Die
> Stunde des Phantomias". I know we talked sometimes about this character,
> but...
>
> Can some of you refresh me about his origin? I think is totally
> italian, and
> a bit of a bizarre concept. I can accept the existence of parallels
> universes of ducks. There where they humans exists too, are not my
> favorites...

Phantomias, Patomas, Paperinik, or Superduck, as far as I know, is indeed
Italian. His first appearance (and also the story of his origin) was in
"Paperinik il diabolico vendicatore" (TL-706b: story by Guido Martina, art
by Carpi), in which Donald inherits a big old house which happens to have
been the secret headquartes of Phantomias, a 19th century thief.

I don't know if it's been drawn by any American artist (there seems to be
few entries for 'Superduck' in the INDUCKS), but I think it's the Great
Massimo de Vita the one who most has told about him.

More info at:

http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/superduck.html

Santiago.




From revry at clark.net  Thu Sep  7 22:10:19 2000
From: revry at clark.net (EVRY)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:10:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #256 - 7 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200009071000.MAA09311@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10009071607560.15809-100000@clark.net>

Hi! I know this must be an urban legend, but someone is passing this
around on a comic strip list I'm on and I'd like a solid refutation (or
confirmation?!!?) from someone on this list who Ought To Know.
Thanks!
-=-Ron-=-

>No More Quack Quack
>Helsinki [Finland] - The Youth Board here has ruled that Donald Duck is
>not
>suitable reading for children and has cancelled library subscriptions to
>the comic. The board found that Donald was unduly bourgeois. It also
>complained of pictures of naked ducks, tales of incomplete families,
>harmful attitudes towards children and Donald's common-law marriage.
>************************************************************************


============================================
             -=-Ron Evry-=-
Author of Witzworx, the Shareware Comic Book Font!
Available at http://www.reuben.org/evry/witzworx.html
============================================






From YMH at aol.com  Tue Sep 12 15:55:14 2000
From: YMH at aol.com (YMH@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:55:14 EDT
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #259 - 6 msgs
Message-ID: <94.96104af.26ef8fc2@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/12/00 6:02:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dcml-admin at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> Can any kind soul out in DCML land give me some tips
>  on where I can get duck and mouse Disney comix
>  (original English text) from Gold Key to most recent
>  Gladstone (incl. CARL BARKS IN COLOUR) at reasonable
>  prices in these cities (or their vicinity)??

You can't get comics at reasonable prices. (At least, not as far as I've 
seen.) Especially not old ones. You also can't get anything in NYC at 
reasonable prices.

But seeing as how I live in NYC, if you find that I'm wrong, I'd love to hear 
about it!

Thanks,
Yossi Horowitz



From troschke at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Tue Sep 12 14:18:32 2000
From: troschke at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (Sven-Oliver Troschke)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:18:32 +0200
Subject: Phantomias? (Fabio Blanco)
References: <200009121000.MAA22706@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <39BE1F18.D94BD078@amadeus.statistik.uni-dortmund.de>

Fabio Blanco:

> A friend of mine sent me a gift, a Donald' Anthology's Book named "Die
> Stunde des Phantomias". I know we talked sometimes about this character,
> but...
>
> Can some of you refresh me about his origin? I think is totally italian, and
> a bit of a bizarre concept.

Phantomias, or Paperinik which is his name in Italy, is Donald's alter ego as a super hero who
watches over Duckburg especially at night. The character was invented in Italy in the late
60's and is a kind of parody on super hero comics.

Only recently, I discovered a very good article on Italian Disney Comics in general on Frank
Stajano's homepage. On pages 14 to 16 of this article you will find comprehensive information
on Paperinik.

The article can be downloaded from

http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/disney/

and is entitled "Disney comics from Italy".

It contains information on the classical Paperinik as well as on the PKNA (Paperinik New
Adventures) series which started in Italy in the 90's. The latter is in the style of modern
American super hero comics (with aliens or time travellers as Paperinik's enemies), while the
book you have features the classical Paperinik. You could say that these are two completely
different Paperinik universes with almost no overlap. Both universes still exist next to each
other.

Only recently, an adaption of the PKNA motif was published in the American magazine "Disney
Adventures". Paperinik's name is "Duck Avenger" there. I have read on this list some months
ago, that the first ten pages of this story were published, but have not heard about it
lately.

There are also some (very few) stories with the classical Paperinik made outside Italy
(France, Egmont), but most of these stories come from Italy. So you could say that Paperinik
is mostly (but not totally) Italian. He is, however, quite popular in Germany as well. How
about other countries?

Sven





From pyas at swipnet.se  Tue Sep 12 18:14:28 2000
From: pyas at swipnet.se (Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Di=F6s?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:14:28 +0200
Subject: Celebrating Barks' life
In-Reply-To: <200009081000.MAA07911@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20000912161651.HHWK20506.fep03-svc.swip.net@stefandi>


Although I haven't sent in one of my own, I have closely read all the
sentiments concerning Barks' decease expressed on this list by his fans and
friends. Just as moving to me as his death itself, just as touching is it
to once again realize the immense impact Barks' work has had for so many
people in so many countries for so many years. Even more so considering
that for each fan who posts to this list, or who sent him letters during
his illness, there is probably a hundred who contacted him during his more
active phase of retirement just to tell him how much they admire his
work... and for each and everyone of those, there is easily a thousand
world-wide who love, enjoy, or admire what he has done although they might
not know his name, or not have bothered to get in touch with him. 

It reminds me of his visit to Europe in 1994, when a fan meeting was
arranged in Stockholm just like in so many other places. We have never,
before or after, had so many Donaldists gathered in one place in our
country at the same time, and I have rarely in my life experienced such a
thrill as when Barks stepped in and the crowd roared. It just would never
stop! It was a great honor to meet Carl Barks, but an even greater feeling
to see how loved he truly is. We knew it before, but... Barks is huge. Not
"was". Is.

I want to thank each and everyone out there who wanted to share their
feelings at this moment with the rest of us. And that is everyone... I'm
not about to mention any names... except that, of course, like everyone
else, I'm really impressed by Armando Botto's fine dream tribute a little
while ago... and that just a few days ago, somebody sent in a mail that
echoed my own feelings so perfectly that I had to rub my eyes.

Kriton Kyrimis wrote:

>Instead of mourning Barks' death, we should be celebrating his life!

And:

>Corporeal immortality is not a blessing; it is a curse, and one should
>not wish to inflict it upon others. Being granted the oportunity to
>choose when to leave is far better, and as we all know, Unca Carl was
>able to do exactly that.

How true. How very true. Kriton, I'm writing a short piece about Barks for
the Swedish Donaldists, and I'm quoting you. And if you get kicked off the
list, as you jokingly feared, I'll go with you.

We should all wish to age and die like Carl Barks, when our time comes. And
we should never cease to honor this great man... not because he's dead, but
because his work will live forever.




Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden






From sonia_dyer at am.exch.hp.com  Tue Sep 12 18:58:24 2000
From: sonia_dyer at am.exch.hp.com (DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1))
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:58:24 -0600
Subject: Andy Boettcher
Message-ID: <B30C9DBF55CDD3119CA30090277A764B81B7E1@xcup03.cup.hp.com>

Hi Andy-
    Gladstone still sells back issues via mail.  To see what they still
offer, take a look at 
	http://brucehamilton.com/gladstone/backissues/backissueframes.html
		
		Sonia Dyer
                            



From Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com  Tue Sep 12 21:25:58 2000
From: Mark.Doukakis at nbc.com (Doukakis, Mark (NBC))
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:25:58 -0400
Subject: Where to get Disney Comics
Message-ID: <4B71D51B417DD4119600000AD131339704FF8E@LA04NBCGE>

Can any kind soul out in DCML land give me some tipson where I can get duck
and mouse Disney comix(original English text) from Gold Key to most
recentGladstone (incl. CARL BARKS IN COLOUR) at reasonableprices in these
cities (or their vicinity)??


If you have access to computer in Tokyo, you're best bet is ebay,  the
international online auction house. Three words of caution: It is addictive.
Also, try the following web sites for recent back-issues:

	http://www.gemstonepub.com/eccomics/catalog/disneycomic.html

	http://brucehamilton.com/gladstone/backissues/backissueframes.html

As far as reasonable prices go, you have to be the judge. If you're not too
concerned with the condition of the books you can find some decent deals on
ebay.

Good luck!
Mark Doukakis
	
	
	


	Because e-mail can be altered electronically, 
	the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 12 21:46:25 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:46:25 CEST
Subject: Phantomias
Message-ID: <F78u0C09leiWuvnjj1H00009282@hotmail.com>

>From: "Santiago Garcia Banhos" <sgarcia at uf-isf.es>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: RE: Phantomias
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:32 +0200

>I don't know if it's been drawn by any American artist (there seems to be 
>few entries for 'Superduck' in the INDUCKS), but I think it's the Great 
>Massimo de Vita the one who most has told about him.

>DCML: Story index
>Character: Paperinik
>
>424 items found.

Not very few, I think... Did you perhaps search for "Superduck"? In Inducks, 
we use the Italian names for the Italian characters.
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From mnaiman1 at home.com  Wed Sep 13 03:39:11 2000
From: mnaiman1 at home.com (Michael Naiman)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:39:11 -0700
Subject: australian  comics
Message-ID: <39BEDABD.F7B0D3D8@home.com>

I'd like to communicate with an Austrailian collector/ML list member
please...

Thanks,

Michael Naiman




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Tue Sep 12 23:16:08 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:16:08 -0300
Subject: Luis Destuet
Message-ID: <009601c01cfe$b1a008a0$d2d8bfc8@v2h5i1>


Hi People!

Today
I received this e-mail from Luis Destuet's niece:

> Fernando:
>
> My name is Gabriela and Luis Destuet is my uncle. He's alive and lives in
> Argentina (so do I).
>
> If I can be of any help, please let me know.
>
> Regards
>
> Gabriela


So, if anyone has questions about the first South America Disney comics
artist, let me know, and I will ask it to Gabriela. I like to thanks her for
it!

Fernando Ventura!





From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Tue Sep 12 23:16:33 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:16:33 -0300
Subject: Luis Destuet
Message-ID: <00a801c01cfe$c04b38c0$d2d8bfc8@v2h5i1>


Hi People!

Today
I received this e-mail from Luis Destuet's niece:

> Fernando:
>
> My name is Gabriela and Luis Destuet is my uncle. He's alive and lives in
> Argentina (so do I).
>
> If I can be of any help, please let me know.
>
> Regards
>
> Gabriela


So, if anyone has questions about the first South America Disney comics
artist, let me know, and I will ask it to Gabriela. I like to thanks her for
it!

Fernando Ventura!





From h.j.bjornhaug at admin.uio.no  Wed Sep 13 09:44:25 2000
From: h.j.bjornhaug at admin.uio.no (Helge J. Bj|rnhaug)
Date: 13 Sep 2000 09:44:25 +0200
Subject: Celebrating Barks' life
In-Reply-To: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?q?Di=F6s's?= message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:14:28 +0200"
References: <20000912161651.HHWK20506.fep03-svc.swip.net@stefandi>
Message-ID: <vch3dj4viqu.fsf@ulrik.uio.no>

Stefan Di?s <pyas at swipnet.se> writes:

> It reminds me of his visit to Europe in 1994, when a fan meeting was
> arranged in Stockholm just like in so many other places. We have
> never, before or after, had so many Donaldists gathered in one place
> in our country at the same time, and I have rarely in my life
> experienced such a thrill as when Barks stepped in and the crowd
> roared. It just would never stop! It was a great honor to meet Carl
> Barks, but an even greater feeling to see how loved he truly is. We
> knew it before, but... Barks is huge. Not "was". Is.

Exactly the same happened at the University of Oslo when he visited us
here.  

-- 
Helge




From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Wed Sep 13 10:02:43 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:02:43 +0200
Subject: Phantomias
In-Reply-To: <F78u0C09leiWuvnjj1H00009282@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c01d58$fed20c40$34446f0a@ufisf.es>

> >I don't know if it's been drawn by any American artist (there
> seems to be
> >few entries for 'Superduck' in the INDUCKS), but I think it's the Great
> >Massimo de Vita the one who most has told about him.
>
> >DCML: Story index
> >Character: Paperinik
> >
> >424 items found.
>
> Not very few, I think... Did you perhaps search for "Superduck"?
> In Inducks,
> we use the Italian names for the Italian characters.

Yes, and almost all of them by Italian artists, which confirms what I meant:
Paperinik has been drawn mostly and mainly in Italy.

Santiago.





From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Wed Sep 13 10:44:58 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:44:58 -0300
Subject: RV: Phantomias
Message-ID: <000a01c01d5f$0d07fda0$41e329c8@default>

Hey! You are a nice bunch of friends, You aren't? I am reading this
Paperinik, Super Phantomias thing with more interest and very growing
curiosity... Thanks Everybody!!!

Fabio, little duck from Buenos Aires...





From Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se  Thu Sep 14 21:40:55 2000
From: Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se (Ola Martinsson)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:40:55 +0200
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #198 Wundermilds Pages not accessible anymore, 
 why ?
References: <200007141000.MAA13442@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <39C129C7.BBDD487D@uab.ericsson.se>

I just tried to access the wonderful homepage of Wundermilds Donald Duck
Comic Book Rarities. When I try to look closer at a thumbnail a black
page comes up instead with the following message :

We're sorry, but we can't supply the file you requested.
   In order for us to continue to provide our members with the
first-class service they expect, we don't allow people to link files
   from sites hosted with other providers.
   If you believe you deserve the best in free web hosting, join
FortuneCity.com today! It's easy and it's FREE!

Can I watch if I join FortuneCity.com ? or what do I have to do ???

Please can someone answer me :-((

Ola in Stockholm +7 and cloudy


>   1. Wundermilds Pages - Major Update (wunderwurm at gmx.ch)
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 1
> Date:   Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:14:18 +0200 (MEST)
> From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Wundermilds Pages - Major Update
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Finally, I've done a major update on my internet pages (featuring rare
> Gottfredson pieces and comic book giveaway stories), you are kindly invited to
> see by yourself:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/index.htm and
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm
> 
> 
> WW



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 14 22:15:40 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:15:40 +0300
Subject: Old Almanaco's Issues
Message-ID: <OE50bDt3HvoFOAmEaJs0000000a@hotmail.com>

Is any member who wants copies of the greek "Almanako" magazine? I have a
large ammount of copies, old and new ones. Just send your offers!

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
A DCML member




From RMorris306 at aol.com  Fri Sep 15 16:52:25 2000
From: RMorris306 at aol.com (RMorris306@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:52:25 EDT
Subject: Carl Barks, Almanako, and a Donald question...
Message-ID: <a0.9a9d5ad.26f391a9@aol.com>

Hi everyone!

    It's been awhile since I've posted here. Carl Barks' death, although most 
of us had been expecting it, was still a shock, especially as he wrote the 
very first comic book story I ever read or owned (and still do), "Donald 
Duck, the Master Mover" (with thanks to Gladstone for giving it a title), 
which set a very high standard for all the millions of stories I'd read since 
then. I had a chance to meet Carl once (at a Boston convention) and exchanged 
a couple of letters with him (about the Duck family tree; we never did figure 
out if Gladstone's adoptive father was named Goostave Gander or Goostale 
Gander). Definitely one of the greats of comics, without peer in funny-animal 
comic books (though Sheldon Mayer and Don Rosa come VERY close) and with only 
a few peers in funny-animal newspaper strips (George Herriman, Floyd 
Gottfredson, and Walt Kelly are the only ones who come to mind). He will be 
greatly missed.

<< Is any member who wants copies of the greek "Almanako" magazine?  >>

    I'd love some! Thank you! My first serious girlfriend was an Athenian 
exchange student, so I learned a little (VERY little) Greek then...suffice it 
to say that I'm still very glad I'd have the pictures to help. Are the 
stories all by Barks, Rosa, Branca and Van Horn and other European Duck 
artists, or are there any native Greek writers and artists as well? And are 
there any particular Disney characters who are much more successful there 
than at home, like Jose Carioca and Panchito in Brazil and Mexico 
respectively? (My guess would be Hercules, or possibly the creatures from the 
original FANTASIA...but, if my ex-girlfriend was any indication, Greeks 
aren't always fond of foreigners making light of their culture. Especially 
the HERCULES movie, which I've got to see one of these days.)

    Finally, a question for those of you who (I admit) have much more 
familiarity with the Barks canon than I do. Did he ever do a story with 
Donald Duck on a motorcycle? (I seem to recall such a thing in the '60's 
story "A Duck's-Eye View of Europe," or was that a moped?) The reason I ask 
is that someone in my office wants to have that image tattooed on her 
shoulder, and I thought, if she wanted Donald, she should have the Good Duck 
Artist's version of him if possible...


Rich




From p.castagno at libero.it  Fri Sep 15 17:37:49 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:37:49 +0200
Subject: Italian Inducks page
Message-ID: <39C2424D.6DFF470E@libero.it>

Hello,

Following the Beagle Boys example, who are organized in
sub-sections all around the world, also the Inducks team has
sub-sections. The one I'm talking about now is the Italian one,
who has a re-newed starting page at 

 http://www.fumetti.org/inducks

or 

 http://www.fumetti.org/inducks/default_e.htm

for non-Italian readers.

Please let us know what you think about it and if you find it
useful!

Ciao,

   - The Italian Inducks Team

-- 
http://members.xoom.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

"Cameriere, il conto! Tovagliolo e corrente elettrica"
"1 dollaro e 65 cents, signore! ...bolletta della luce e nota del
magazzino! Che conto, tse'!"
(Topolino e un cameriere in I TL  222-A)



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 15 18:53:22 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:53:22 +0300
Subject: English Section Ready!
Message-ID: <OE21tOdKMnap2SAWQ8A000018d6@hotmail.com>

Dear Duckfellows
My "English Section" opens today. It's not ready yet, but if you go now you
will find some articles, catalogues, news and much more!
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/englishindex.htm
If you find any problem, just e-mail me! And if you want to learn when my
page have an update, check out my mailing list.

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From ffabian at bluewin.de  Fri Sep 15 19:36:13 2000
From: ffabian at bluewin.de (Frank Fabian)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:36:13 +0200
Subject: Wundermild's pages ARE accessible
In-Reply-To: <200009151000.MAA18092@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000915193044.00ac26e0@pop.bluewin.de>

Ola:

I just tried to access both pages, even using the links provided in your 
mail, and it worked without any problems. Perhaps a temporary technical 
error occurred? And BTW, why FortuneCity? The pages are hosted by 
Geocities, i.e. Yahoo.

Best regards,

Frank

At 12:00 15.09.00 +0200, you wrote:

>I just tried to access the wonderful homepage of Wundermilds Donald Duck
>Comic Book Rarities. When I try to look closer at a thumbnail a black
>page comes up instead with the following message :
>
>We're sorry, but we can't supply the file you requested.
>    In order for us to continue to provide our members with the
>first-class service they expect, we don't allow people to link files
>    from sites hosted with other providers.
>    If you believe you deserve the best in free web hosting, join
>FortuneCity.com today! It's easy and it's FREE!
>
>Can I watch if I join FortuneCity.com ? or what do I have to do ???
>
>Please can someone answer me :-((
>
>Ola in Stockholm +7 and cloudy




From ffabian at bluewin.de  Fri Sep 15 19:49:50 2000
From: ffabian at bluewin.de (Frank Fabian)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:49:50 +0200
Subject: Correction to 'Wundermild's pages ARE accessible'
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000915194049.00ac0710@pop.bluewin.de>

Ola:

Talk about being too fast ... I now saw what you meant, some of the 
full-size scans are hosted by Fortunecity (e.g. Donald's Nephews - the 
Fabulous Inventors). The said error message appears when you directly click 
the link. It seems that Fortunecity does not want to be linked with other 
websites, for whatever reason. But you can easily circumvent this by 
accessing the page DIRECTLY with your browser ('open location' function); 
either type in the URL or copy it using the right mouse button menu and 
paste it into the field for entering the URL. The best solution would of 
course be if our friend Wundermild transfers the scans to Geocities as 
well. Perhaps he reads this.

Best regards,

Frank




From Wdposter at aol.com  Fri Sep 15 20:51:58 2000
From: Wdposter at aol.com (Wdposter@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:51:58 EDT
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #261 - 3 msgs
Message-ID: <f4.2c3bb8f.26f3c9ce@aol.com>

In a message dated 00-09-15 06:04:34 EDT, you write:

<< 
 I just tried to access the wonderful homepage of Wundermilds Donald Duck
 Comic Book Rarities. When I try to look closer at a thumbnail a black
 page comes up instead with the following message :
 
 We're sorry, but we can't supply the file you requested.
    In order for us to continue to provide our members with the
 first-class service they expect, we don't allow people to link files
    from sites hosted with other providers. >>


That means He must have had links on his page to files which resided on 
servers other than his web host,  Fortune City.  If he takes the links out 
and just puts the addresses in he should be ok.   Regards All !  Don, are you 
in Europe or sailing the Spanish main or touring Lock Ness?  8-)  Martin



From wunderwurm at gmx.ch  Sat Sep 16 08:41:15 2000
From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch (Willibald Wundermild)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:41:15 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #261 - 3 msgs
References: <200009151000.MAA18074@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <14880.969086475@www27.gmx.net>

Hi all,
       Ola Martinsson schrieb:
>  Wundermilds Pages not accessible
> anymore,
> why ?
> 
> I just tried to access the wonderful 

Many thanks!

> homepage of Wundermilds Donald Duck
> Comic Book Rarities. When I try to look closer at a thumbnail a black
> page comes up instead with the following message :
> 
> We're sorry, but we can't supply the file you requested.

The reason is simple: While the thumbnail overview files are located on
Yahoo-Geocities, a server that offers free webspace in quantities of 10 MB,
the big images are located on a different server, German Fortunecity (100 MB
webspace). Until now, there were no problems knitting a link from some
non-Fortunecity located file towards a Fortunecity image, but now that is
prohibited. Anyway, thanks for informing me.

The Error message is quoted:
>    In order for us to continue to provide our members with the
> first-class service they expect, we don't allow people to link files
>    from sites hosted with other providers.

That's not quite exactly what I call first class service, ahem! I hope
when writing "files" they really do mean "images"; wouldn't make much sense to
exclude html files or similar from external viewing.
Anyway, that will be my solution for the dilemma: I'll have to write html
pages for every image, embedding the specific images there, and pointing the
links from the thumbnail pages to the new html files.

Here's what to do meanwhile:
1. Click a thumbnail -> the error message appears.
2. Go to the URL field and change the file you want to access, e.g. from
    01.jpg to 02.jpg or from
    43-06-28.jpg to 43-06-29.jpg (for the latter: note there are gaps in
the
    date format files - Sundays! - that produce another error message),
and
    click return.
3. Change the file back to 01.jpg or whatever it was, and return; now the
image shows up (you may have to reload page first, or dump your cache), as
you are coming from a Fortunecity page now.

>    If you believe you deserve the best in free web hosting, join
> FortuneCity.com today! It's easy and it's FREE!

I don't recommend them at the moment.
But I announce to present three new Donald Duck Wheaties giveaway stories
soon!

WW


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From wunderwurm at gmx.ch  Sat Sep 16 08:57:39 2000
From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch (Willibald Wundermild)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:57:39 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #261 - 3 msgs
References: <200009151000.MAA18074@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <9166.969087459@www1.gmx.net>

Hi again,
         Frank Fabian schrieb:
> The best solution would of 
> course be if our friend Wundermild transfers the scans to Geocities as 
> well. Perhaps he reads this.

I am considering to do just that (the thumbnail pages' URLs won't change,
of course). Thanks for your problem solution also, Frank. 



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From wunderwurm at gmx.ch  Sun Sep 17 14:02:48 2000
From: wunderwurm at gmx.ch (Willibald Wundermild)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:02:48 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: Wundermilds pages
References: <200009161000.MAA07477@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <10327.969192168@www27.gmx.net>

Hi again,

Quick input, regarding my pages that had some newly unallowed links
inside: The problem is now fixed with a temporary solution; all the images are now
available again without jumping hence and forth and without juggling around
with new windows. Thanks for your patience ...

WW

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From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Mon Sep 18 07:06:29 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 02:06:29 -0300
Subject: New Brazilian stories on the Web
Message-ID: <001b01c0212e$f1af8cc0$18abfbc8@default>

    More two Brazilian stories at:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

- B 870024 "Donald Duck's Marriage" (part 2 and 3), 7 pages.
  Art: Luis Podavin (2) and (I guess) Verci de Mello (3)
    
- B 840095 Fethry Duck "Zorro, the Idiotic Avenger", 13 pages.
  Art: Luis Podavin.

     Tchau,
     -- Arthur.





From komix43 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 18 11:04:35 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:04:35 +0300
Subject: Somewhere in Nowhere and Greek Comics Festival
Message-ID: <OE43v00J6gX2XdoYfYo00001357@hotmail.com>

Hi Duckpeople of DCML universe

I'm wondering if the Barks, Pat Block and J.Lusting's story "Somewhere in
Nowhere" has been published in Europe. 2 months ago I read in July's mailing
list a mail by Armando Botto, saying that "SiN" had releasead to Ebay. So,
where is that story now? Is it in Europe?

And now something interesting but a little off-topic:
The period 6-12 Septeber, there was a Festival of Comics, here in Athens, in
a place called Texnopolis (-Artcity). Many of the most famous European and
Greek artists was here: Quino, Matioli, Moebius and many, many others.
I went there and I saw a room called "Hell and Paradise": All the famous
characters (From Marvel, DC, even Disney) was there, in a room full of red
and white lights! On the left corner was the Paradise and the Hell on the
right of the room
Well, Gyro, Mickey Mouse and Grandma Duck unfortunatelly went to Hell! Only
Scrooge went to paradise 'cause of his kind soul!! It was a very funny
experience!
If you need any info about the Comics Festival, just ask me.

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Mon Sep 18 11:42:25 2000
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:42:25 +0200
Subject: Somewhere in Nowhere
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E260902F@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>

Apostolis wrote:
> I'm wondering if the Barks, Pat Block and J.Lusting's story 
> "Somewhere in Nowhere" has been published in Europe. 2 months ago I read
in 
> July's mailing list a mail by Armando Botto, saying that "SiN" had
releasead 
> to Ebay. So, where is that story now? Is it in Europe?
Not yet. The story is going be published in Italy, probably next November.
The "eBay release" consisted of original artwork from the story. BTW, more
and more artwork is popping up these days... just search for "Barks Block"
on eBay.

Ciao,
Armando
(and thanks everybody for the kind words about my "Barks-dream-thing"!)



From komix43 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 18 13:18:21 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:18:21 +0300
Subject: Forum, guestbook and votes in Komix English Section!
Message-ID: <OE16iufL0xJdQdSe9g400000c76@hotmail.com>

Hi Duckboys and Duckgirls

I translated all my Komix web services (the guestbook, the forum and the web
polls) from Greek to English. So, you can use them all now, in order to
learn more about Komix Magazine, to "sign" your visiting or to vote. Take a
look at them! :-)
Also, you can chat to my chat room! I will be very happy if I will see your
names into my guestbook!!

Armando wrote:
>>>Not yet. The story is going be published in Italy, probably next
November.
So, no SiN yet. We must standbuy a little. Komix had talk about that story 4
years ago.

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se  Tue Sep 19 10:06:10 2000
From: Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se (Ola Martinsson)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:06:10 +0200
Subject: Disney comics Digest V99 #59
Message-ID: <39C71E72.3A6B47BE@uab.ericsson.se>


Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:29:51 +0300
From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>

Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 02:42:46 PST
From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: info needed: Italian D-comics

Hi!
I am writing an article about Italian Disney comics for my zine, and I 
need info and Your help, members of DCML.
As I was reading my old Barks Collectors, I found on n:o 12/13 (1979) 
article "European
Disney Comics - A Perspective" by Horst Schroder. There was a mention 
about wartime Italian Disney-
production. During the WW II no American comis were allowed in Italy 
because of cultural autarchia
and most of them were changed into homemade substitutes. 
(Pseudo-Phantom, pseudo-Flash Gordon etc were made).
According the article, in 1941 artist Pier Lorenzo de Vita was assigned 
to redraw Gottfredson`s animal
heads and hands into humans and the strip Topolino was renamed as 
Tuffolino.
That kind of obscurity I certainly would like to see!
Does anyone in this ML have any pictorial matter on this? I`d be 
thankful if someone
could get me scanned or photocopied sample panels of this 
Topolino/Tuffolino stuff.
And any info about pre-war, wartime and early 50`s Italian D-comics is 
welcome.
Any recommendable web sites?
And, oh...was Topolinos first year 1932 or -35? Both years are mentioned 
as first year, in different sources.
thanks,, Timo Ronkainen
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:34:54 +0200
From: Botto Armando <Armando.Botto at elsag.it>
To: dcomics at strindberg.ling.uu.se
Subject: RE: Italian D-comics

TIMO:
I have some (few) examples of the Tuffolino/Topolino stuff, and I'm
willing
to send you photocopies... But I suspect you won't need them, as other
Italians on this List are very efficient when it comes to providing
scans...

As for the info about early Italian D-comics, we have the utmost experts
on
the List, and I think they can answer to you much better than I could... 
One answer, however, I can provide (just to put a little informative
content
in this message): the first issue of "Topolino" was dated Dec. 31st,
1932.
The publisher was Nerbini; in 1935 (starting from number 137), Mondadori
took over (but the numbering was not reset). The last number of that
series
of "Topolino" (also known as "Topolino Giornale") was #738, April 1949;
after that, the current series ("Topolino Libretto") started again from
#1
(and has now reached #2250 or so). 

By the way, Disney-Italia IS going to celebrate the 50th anniversary of
"Topolino Libretto"! A special booklet reprinting the first THREE issues
is
due next month (hooray!). At LuccaComics, they even said that the
reprints
may continue with the subsequent issues, if the booklet sells well...
So,
let's buy multiple copies and hope for the best...

Ciao,
Armando

------------------------------



--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #59
*****************************************



From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Mon Sep 18 13:36:03 2000
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Willot?=)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:36:03 +0200
Subject: Carl Barks
Message-ID: <009c01c02164$a3662340$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

Next week's "Journal de Mickey" will be a special issue entirely dedicated
to Carl Barks.

  Francois
  http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/cgi-bin/search.uk.htm





From fabio5.rossi at telecomitalia.it  Mon Sep 18 15:56:02 2000
From: fabio5.rossi at telecomitalia.it (Fabio Rossi)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:56:02 +0200
Subject: Italian comics
In-Reply-To: <39C71E72.3A6B47BE@uab.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <000201c02178$2fc055a0$25163a0a@lo.telecomitalia.it>

see this link http://www.zen.it/cartoon-news/cronol_mondadori.htm

is possible found entirely pubblications of Arnoldo Mondadori before second world war and a very rare image of Tuffolino!

ciao
 




From ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu  Wed Sep 13 13:37:36 2000
From: ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu (Donald Ault)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:37:36 -0400
Subject: statement read at the Carl Barks memorial service
Message-ID: <01c01d77$03e002a0$58a1e380@default>

For any of you who are interested, I have posted, as a link to my home page,
the statement I wrote and read for the Carl Barks memorial service :

http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/

Just go to that page and click on the "In Memoriam Carl Barks" link.

There is also a photo of Carl with one of his last paintings posted on the
home page itself.


Donald Ault
Dept. of English
University of Florida
ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
ault at ufl.edu
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
FAX: (352) 332-0551







From erik.bergwall at telia.com  Wed Sep 20 17:38:57 2000
From: erik.bergwall at telia.com (Erik Bergwall)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:38:57 +0200
Subject: link tips
Message-ID: <002d01c02318$e62d7560$bcd0ecc2@oemcomputer>

Hi.

Now I?m writing to this list. It?s the first time!

I want to give you a tips on my disney characters webpage. It?s quite difficult to read it for them who can?t swedish! But here it comes:

http://w1.218.telia.com/~u21803238/dizzni/figurer/figurer.htm

Thank?s for a great mailinglist!
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From eliot508 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 21 06:57:43 2000
From: eliot508 at yahoo.com (F. A. Elliott)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:57:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: National Geographic
Message-ID: <20000921045743.3968.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello again,

I got a great kick out of seeing the National
Geographics drawn into Timo Ronkainen's "Ankkalinnan
Pamaus" cover pic of Carl Barks at his work bench. I'm
a big fan of NG. I have all the issues except for one
all the way back to Dec '51. You even got the pre '59
look right before they started adding pictures to the
covers.

That would be a good question for the DCML. What
issues of National Geographic did Carl Barks draw
heavily from. I know it would be dumb to list each one
because he probably used many of them. But, I think in
some cases, certain magazines were drawn from more
heavily.

In fact, it would make a nice brief mention in the
actual Geographic Magazine. If any fans here can work
up a correct list I'll e-mail the recommendation off
to National Geographic. But it would look better
coming from somebody with a little more flash than
myself, particularly from a non-american, since the
National Geographic Magazine is more apt to print
letters from other countries. 

National Geographic's letters e-mail is
<ngsforum at nationalgeographic.com>

One should include name, address, and daytime
telephone. 

God bless,

F.A. Elliott.

=====
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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding."  (F.A. Elliott)

      




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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Sep 21 12:42:59 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:42:59 +0100
Subject: a Donald question...
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075D5B@l04.research.kpn.com>

Rich (RMorris306 at aol.com):

> a question for those of you who have much more 
> familiarity with the Barks canon than I do. Did he ever do a 
> story with Donald Duck on a motorcycle?

Do mini-motorcycles count?
See "Way Out Yonder", W WDC 262-02 (USA reprints: WDC 454, WDCD 42, and the
CB libraries)

--Harry.



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Sep 21 21:33:10 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:33:10 +0100
Subject: Rosa comics in Finland !!
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075D66@l04.research.kpn.com>

Janne Heino wrote in July:

> So the three caballeros rides again story will be published 
> here at Finland with the special cover.

Can anyone show us a scan of that cover? (And on which issue was it
published?)

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
mailto:h.w.fluks at kpn.com (work)
mailto:h.w.fluks at wxs.nl (home)
http://members.nbci.com/bolderbast/ (Inducks)
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/ (DCML photos & stuff)
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4 (Introducktion)



From alexiov at libero.it  Thu Sep 21 15:48:40 2000
From: alexiov at libero.it (Alessandro Iovino)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:48:40 +0200
Subject: who was Erich von Stroheim?
Message-ID: <39CA2DD8.26009.100922@localhost>

Hi,
 I'm reading an italian book about Mickey Mouse, and I found a 
reference to Erich von Stroheim.
 The author, referring to the History "MM and the Pirate 
Submarine", talks about the villain, Dr. Vulture, as a caricature  of 
the named above.
 I was trying to look for some informations about him, and I found 
out an actor and a photo, representing the characther  played by 
himself in the movie Foolish Wives ( about 1922).

 The url is:
 http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/PhotoGallery3/3vons.htm 

I think this movie could be that to which Gottfredson has referred 
for the idea of  Dr. Vulter character, if information given in the book 
is right.
May anyone tell  me if the correlation made between the villain of 
the aforementioned daily strip and the actor in the photo is correct? 

Do you think they resemble each other?

 I hope my english is understandable.
 
 thanks to everyone who will answer me.
 
 Bye
 
 Alessandro Iovino



From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Thu Sep 21 23:03:42 2000
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:03:42 EDT
Subject: who was Erich von Stroheim?
Message-ID: <f.990e8d0.26fbd1ae@aol.com>

In a message dated 09/21/2000 4:02:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
alexiov at libero.it writes:

> I'm reading an italian book about Mickey Mouse, and I found a 
>  reference to Erich von Stroheim.

Well Von Strheim looked like that in all his movies. There's a good 
documentary on him entilled "The Man You Love To Hate", because of the amount 
of WW1 era anti-German propaganda films he was in.  
But yes, he is a likely suspect for the charachter.  



The best source for movie indexing is www.imdb.com           
 Not sure if there are other language versions or not...

Now if you know anything about the Italian Pathe films of the 1910s......let 
me know!

Steven Rowe, silent movie fan




From longtom at oeste.com.ar  Fri Sep 22 02:15:51 2000
From: longtom at oeste.com.ar (Fabio Blanco)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:15:51 -0300
Subject: who was Erich von Stroheim?
Message-ID: <000a01c0242a$95e4cc80$74e329c8@default>

>In a message dated 09/21/2000 4:02:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>alexiov at libero.it writes:
>
>> I'm reading an italian book about Mickey Mouse, and I found a
>>  reference to Erich von Stroheim.

Look at the Jean Renoir's movie from 1937 *The Great Ilusion* (La Grand
Illusion?, aux secours, mon amis!!!). Is a great, great movie, and there
you'll really love  to Von. Is a little part, but superb.

Hey, an double chapter of Indiana Jones Chronicles have to Von like one of
the characters when filming Foolish Wives. Is a great chapter: other
characters in him are Carl Laemmle and John Ford.

Fabio Blanco
Bonvolu postu al: longtom at oeste.com.ar





From eriknilsson100 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 22 11:07:16 2000
From: eriknilsson100 at hotmail.com (erik nilsson)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:07:16 CEST
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #266 - 3 msgs
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From: eriknilsson100 at hotmail.com (erik nilsson)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:08:04 CEST
Subject: Now Tank You!
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From: eriknilsson100 at hotmail.com (erik nilsson)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:08:20 CEST
Subject: No Tank You!
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From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Fri Sep 22 15:34:10 2000
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:34:10 +0200
Subject: Picsou 344
Message-ID: <007d01c02499$cbe8c600$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

In issue #344 this month:
- cover (redrawn from Barks comics)
- pin-up illustration by Don Rosa for the Kalevala
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/FC_PM__344D.jpg
- "Sad news": edito notes on Barks' health that was deteriorating (when the
issue was sent to the printer, Barks was still alive - the issue was
published after Barks' death)
- "The Kalevala" by Don Rosa
- "The Ghost Train Mystery" by Carl Barks
For this September issue, 3 Barks ten-pagers about the nephews playing hooky
on the first day of school:
- The Radio story (WDC 60), Playin' Hookey (WDC 72), The Truant Nephews (WDC
133)
- Taliaferro strips
- Some words about the "Kalevala" by Don Rosa
- Another Kalevala illustration (made for Finnish "Sammon salaisuus ja muita
Don Rosan parhaita" maybe?)





From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Fri Sep 22 17:30:01 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:30:01 -0400
Subject: [Fwd: who was Erich von Stroheim?]
Message-ID: <39CB7AF9.DBFBB5A6@mpinet.net>

Sorry I previously answered this privately by mistake.

John Chadwick wrote:

> Stroheim also directed a film called GREED (1925) which is possibly the
> longest film ever made.  The original cut was 8 or 9 hours, but that cut
> has been lost for decades, if you find this on video, it will be much
> shorter.
>
> Today he is probably best know for playing Max, the butler in SUNSET
> BOULEVARD (1950).  This character has been parodied in many places.  Harvey
> Korman frequently spoofed him on THE CAROL BURNETT SHOW, and he was
> recently spoofed in the animated film CATS DON'T DANCE.  I'd say anywhere
> you've seen a balding butler (usually doting on his female employer who is
> often a performer of some kind) you're seeing a nod to Erich.

--
Set aside time every day to check if your fly is up.
    -Dale Gribble





From pierrebi at tiscalinet.it  Sat Sep 23 09:58:24 2000
From: pierrebi at tiscalinet.it (Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:58:24
Subject: Gottfredson strips on the web?
In-Reply-To: <200009201000.MAA05072@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.16.20000923095824.2cf70bae@pop.tiscalinet.it>

Looking for Gottfredson strips on the web. May anyone help me?
Ciao da Pietro



From mani at sci.fi  Sat Sep 23 12:19:00 2000
From: mani at sci.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:19:00 +0300
Subject: Rosa comics in Finland !!
In-Reply-To: <200009221000.MAA11410@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000923131900.00887610@mani.pop.sci.fi>

>From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
>
>Janne Heino wrote in July:
>
>> So the three caballeros rides again story will be published 
>> here at Finland with the special cover.
>
>Can anyone show us a scan of that cover? (And on which issue was it
>published?)

I can, the cover:

http://www.sci.fi/~mani/aku.jpg (bigger)
http://www.sci.fi/~mani/aku2.gif (smaller)

The story was published in issues 36-38.

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at sci.fi)
http://www.sci.fi/~mani/eindex.htm
Finnish Disney-publications:
http://www.sci.fi/~mani/esarja.htm



From mani at sci.fi  Sat Sep 23 12:48:37 2000
From: mani at sci.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:48:37 +0300
Subject: Comparing publications (Finland vs. Scandinavia)
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000923134837.00888990@mani.pop.sci.fi>

I'm writing an article about Finnish publications and now I'd like to trace
the roots of some publications. I have two main interests: Juhlasarjat and
Mikin dekkaripokkari. 

Juhlasarjat was a ten-part Carl Barks book series, which (if I understand
correctly) corresponds to the Norwegian Gullbok, Danish Guldbog and Swedish
Kalle Anka Guldbok. What kind of books they are (cover style and layout,
number of pages etc.)? How comprehensive will they be?

And Mikin dekkaripokkari then (Danish Mickey Mysterier, Swedish Musses
Mysterier, Norwegian Mikke Krimm): In Finland it was 10-part series. What
about other countries?

And what about the Non-Scandinavian relatives of these publications? Which
country was the first to publish these series?

-- 
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http://www.sci.fi/~mani/
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Aku Ankan taskukirjat -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/



From p.castagno at libero.it  Sat Sep 23 12:32:54 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:32:54 +0200
Subject: Gottfredson strips on the web?
References: <3.0.6.16.20000923095824.2cf70bae@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <39CC86D6.A53EB265@libero.it>

Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino wrote:
> 
> Looking for Gottfredson strips on the web. May anyone help me?

Try to http://members.forez.com/livia/

There are plenty of comics, including the GREAT Gottfredson ones!

  - Paolo

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From p.castagno at libero.it  Sat Sep 23 12:35:24 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:35:24 +0200
Subject: who was Erich von Stroheim?
References: <39CA2DD8.26009.100922@localhost>
Message-ID: <39CC876C.E4F12BE5@libero.it>

Alessandro Iovino wrote:
>  I'm reading an italian book about Mickey Mouse, and I found a
> reference to Erich von Stroheim.

Hi Alessandro, 

Long time since we heard from you, nice to see you again ol line.

Just for my curiosity, is the book you are reading the fabulous
"In trappola col topo" by Antonio Faeti? 
It is one of the best (well, I think it IS the best) book about
Disney comics ever written, and whoever of you can read Italian
should aim to have a copy of it: it is like discovering
Gottfredson Mickey Mouse for the first time!!

  - Paolo

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From p.castagno at libero.it  Sat Sep 23 12:36:37 2000
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:36:37 +0200
Subject: Carl Barks
References: <009c01c02164$a3662340$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>
Message-ID: <39CC87B5.32563257@libero.it>

Hello,

Fran?ois Willot wrote:
> Next week's "Journal de Mickey" will be a special issue 
> entirely dedicated to Carl Barks.

Is there someone willing to swap a copy of it with Italian
comics?

   - Paolo

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all'inferno se occorrera'!"
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From komix43 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 23 16:07:42 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:07:42 +0300
Subject: War of the Wendigo & Gottfredson strips
Message-ID: <OE14i6WZsLXiaUN5qAg000000a0@hotmail.com>

Hi Duckfuns

Is anybody who can tell me in which magazine (and no. of issue) the "War of
the Wendigo" story had been published for first time?

Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino says:

>>>Looking for Gottfredson strips on the web. May anyone help me?

Have a look at http://www.pcfocus.f2s.com/dcl/otherdrawers.html You will
find many strips by Gottfredson. Hope I help you.


Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Thu Sep 21 22:06:17 2000
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:06:17 -0300
Subject: Caballeros Cover
Message-ID: <001901c02407$75699a80$82dcbfc8@v2h5i1>

There are a image of this cover, a very bad image, on the Aku Ankka site, on
Finland!
See on:
http://www.akuankka.fi/

Fernando!

Janne Heino wrote in July:

> So the three caballeros rides again story will be published
> here at Finland with the special cover.

Can anyone show us a scan of that cover? (And on which issue was it
published?)

--Harry.





From leongor at tin.it  Sun Sep 24 09:05:07 2000
From: leongor at tin.it (Leonardo Gori)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 09:05:07 +0200
Subject: cambio di indirizzo - change of address
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000924090507.0079c9e0@box.tin.it>

Salve!

Per gravi problemi col mio provider, che spero siano temporanei, vi prego
di usare d'ora in poi l'indirizzo
leongor at tin.it
invece del solito l.gori at agora.stm.it, oppure - il che per me sarebbe
meglio - entrambi.
Vi prego di scusarmi se non ho risposto a vostri recenti messaggi.

Grazie e ancora scuse

cari saluti

Leonardo Gori

Hello!

I apologize, but I have some serious problems with my internet provider.

From j.heino at pp2.inet.fi  Sun Sep 24 21:32:02 2000
From: j.heino at pp2.inet.fi (Janne Heino)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:32:02 +0300
Subject: French Picsou !! HELP  Wanted!!
References: <200009231000.MAA08841@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <003301c0265e$1e080fc0$3e03a5c3@default>

Hi !!!

How much would it cost to order the French Picsou magazine to Finalnd ???
Is there any French people on the list who might help me to obtain back-issues of these very great comics ??

Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi 




From efx_al at tin.it  Sun Sep 24 21:51:18 2000
From: efx_al at tin.it (Fabio "Efx" Rossi)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:51:18 +0200
Subject: R: Gottfredson strips on the web?
Message-ID: <002601c02660$cedbc880$6c8e2dd5@dblgro>

Oh Yes!!!

http://members.nbci.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html


-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino <pierrebi at tiscalinet.it>
A: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Data: sabato 23 settembre 2000 11.58
Oggetto: Gottfredson strips on the web?


>Looking for Gottfredson strips on the web. May anyone help me?
>Ciao da Pietro
>
>
>





From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Sun Sep 24 22:36:29 2000
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:36:29 +0200
Subject: French Picsou !! HELP  Wanted!!
References: <200009231000.MAA08841@numerus.ling.uu.se> <003301c0265e$1e080fc0$3e03a5c3@default>
Message-ID: <008d01c02667$2122f540$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

Hi Janne

Subscription rates vary by country of destination. Interested people can
write to:

PICSOU Abonnements
BP 2
59 718 Lille Cedex 9
FRANCE

They accept credit cards for PICSOU subscriptions.

************

In France, a subscription costs approximately 200 F = 30 Euros.

Hope this helps.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janne Heino <j.heino at pp2.inet.fi>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 9:32 PM
Subject: French Picsou !! HELP Wanted!!


> Hi !!!
>
> How much would it cost to order the French Picsou magazine to Finalnd ???
> Is there any French people on the list who might help me to obtain
back-issues of these very great comics ??
>
> Janne Heino
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From gedia at otenet.gr  Mon Sep 25 01:59:48 2000
From: gedia at otenet.gr (George D.)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:59:48 +0300
Subject: Another Barks acticle
In-Reply-To: <200009241000.MAA01023@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <MDEEKDCGJJNEAFLKNOEPGEFFCAAA.gedia@otenet.gr>

Hi everyone!

I was asked to write an article at the Jounior Journal and so I thought that
Carl Barks, whom I admire anyway would be a good subject. However here's the
final outcome and I cannot say I am even satisfied with it :-(. I cannot
understand why I had so many problems expressing my feelings and opinion.
Moreover my english is awful! I feel awfully :-)..

Anyway any suggestions/recommendations are more than welcome...

CARL BARKS
The Man Behind the Ducks

I have had many inhibitions about whether or not I should write this
article. I doubted (and still do) as to whether I could fit the reverence
and admiration I feel for the "Duckman" into words. However, I felt that
this is the only way to express my respect for the person whose stories have
guided me though my childhood until now.

Biography

For those of you who do not know, Carl Barks is the creator of some of the
most important Disney Comics characters, and the person to form the
personality of other already existing heroes, such as Donald Duck.
He passed away nearly a month ago (on August 25th). Born on March 27, 1901
in Merrill, a small town in Oregon, there were only a few months left until
his 100th birthday. Despite having had a rather lonely and least creative
childhood, mainly due to the isolated location of his home and the
economical state of his family, Carl evolved to become the greatest comic
creators of the 20th century. What differentiates him from the other artists
is that Barks is not just another designer who regards comic-creation as a
means of livelihood. Creating comic stories for Barks was the highest level
of self expression, which renders his "profession" an art, a fact that he
hadn't probably realized, but which can be deduced by closely examining his
works and finding out all these elements that make it so special; something
MORE than just another comics story.
Carl's father lost his parents at an early age, so he had to leave from his
homeland, Missouri, in order to try his luck elsewhere. He traveled to
California as a stowaway in trains, a few years after the civil war. Carl's
mother though, Armida Johnson, stayed back to take care of her disabled
parents. It was not until the end of the 1890s when Bark's parents got
married, both over 40 years old. Carl was their second son. He was born in a
"grain ranch", as he likes to call his father's farmland.
When Carl's mother passed away (he was 15 by then) who managed to keep the
family united despite the difficulties, Carl left school in order to help
his father with the ranch. The end of the First World War found Barks living
in San Francisco with his first wife, without a permanent job or residence.
For the next six years he worked as a coachbuilder for the "Pacific Fruit
Express" in Roseville, California, under very difficult conditions, as you
can imagine.
Of course Carl's dream had always been to become a cartoonist. While still
in school he had been greatly impressed by the drawings of a classmate, who
was satirizing contemporary politicians such as Theodore Roosevelt and
Woodrow Wilson. As a result, he started taking correspondence lessons at the
"London Schools of Cartooning". At the end of the 1920s, Carl managed to
publish two drawings at the "Judge" magazine, and soon became a permanent
Art Director of the "Calgary Eye Opener", another satirical magazine
published in Minneapolis.
In 1935, Barks left Minneapolis and returned to California, where he was
hired by the Walt Disney Company. At first he worked on animation, but he
soon switched to the story department. There, he took part in the creation
of more than 35 short films, but he soon found out that this kind of job did
not suit him. Animation was very limiting for him, and entailed cooperating
with other people, a fact which made him quit after a few years. His first
comic story appeared in "Four Color #9" and is called "Donald Duck Finds
Pirate Gold". Barks left Disney on November 6. He then moved to San Jacinto
east of Los Angeles, where he continued selling drawings to various
publications.
Barks started to draw Disney stories for Western Publishing, the first one
being "The Victory Garden" which appeared in WDC&S #31. The turning point of
his career though, was the year 1947. This was when Carl invented Uncle
$crooge McDuck, a character who soon dominated the world with his complex,
eccentric (?) personality.
Barks retired voluntarily at the age of 65 in 1966. By then he had created
nearly 400 Stories, and during the next years (after his retirement) he
painted more than 120 oil paintings, some of them sold for hundreds
thousands of dollars.

The educational Barks

Of course Barks' work would not be so important if its only aim was to evoke
laughter. Even Carl insists his stories never hid an ulterior meaning, one
can find enough elements in his stories to compare his work with Homer's!
In "The Golden River", Carl extols selflessness in a way that is completely
transparent to the reader and can help younger people develop their own
values. The nightmare of a world without intelligence is presented in "The
many Faces of Magica De Spell" and "Flip Decision", in conjunction with a
dispute of the factor chance.
The relation between man and wealth is explored in "Adventure in "Tralla La"
and "The Philosophic Stone". A characteristic of Barks' stories is that Carl
does make references to the problems of the society, but never recommends
any solutions. Instead, he lets people figure out their own.
Environmental concerns are exposed in "The land of the Pygmy Indians" in a
unique way through a very good plot, whereas in stories such as "Financial
Fable" and "Only a poor old man", values such as hard work are glorified and
questioned in the same time.
In the "Black Valley" and "Old California" Carl expresses nostalgia for the
old times, and in "Forecast Follies" the ability of a machine to substitute
a man is questioned, where the weaknesses of artificial intelligence are
largely explored.
A more subjective look at our world can be found at "Microducks from outer
space". Concepts like power are discussed in "The golden helmet" and even
references to Iliad can be found in "Horsin' around with history".

I would need hundreds of pages to analyze Bark's stories and the moral
teachings presented through them. However no more than four words would be
needed to express my true feelings for him:

Thank you Unca Carl!




From sgarcia at uf-isf.es  Mon Sep 25 12:40:22 2000
From: sgarcia at uf-isf.es (Santiago Garcia Banhos)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:22 +0200
Subject: Another Barks acticle
In-Reply-To: <200009251000.MAA29479@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000c01c026dd$01965070$34446f0a@ufisf.es>

George:

>I was asked to write an article at the Jounior Journal and so I thought 
>that Carl Barks, whom I admire anyway would be a good subject. However 
>here's the final outcome and I cannot say I am even satisfied with it 
>:-(. I cannot understand why I had so many problems expressing my 
>feelings and opinion. Moreover my english is awful! I feel awfully 
>:-)..
>Anyway any suggestions/recommendations are more than welcome...

Your article is impressively full and accurate (IMHO), but looks more 
like a 'cold' biography than an essay stating your feelings about Barks'.
In this way, I'd suggest you to add some lines expressing what you feel 
about these comics, and why you love him. Think, for example, that you 
are explainig it to someone who has never read Barks.

I think the sentence "Of course Barks' work would not be so important 
if its only aim was to evoke laughter" is certainly true, and is a 
good begginig for that section, but should be more extended, in the 
sense that Barks' skill consisted mainly not just in doing good 
scenarios, but also the way he combined comical, adventure and even 
dramatic scenes to make the reader *feel* the characters. For me, 
this skill is what makes Barks' stories special.

I hope that if you read this paragraphs, at least you'll feel your 
English is not as *awful* as mine :-)

Greetings,

Santiago.





From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Mon Sep 25 14:04:46 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:04:46 +0100
Subject: Picsou 344
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075D8E@l04.research.kpn.com>

Fran?ois:

> In issue #344 this month:
> - pin-up illustration by Don Rosa for the Kalevala
> http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/FC_PM__344D.jpg
> - Another Kalevala illustration (made for Finnish "Sammon 
> salaisuus ja muita Don Rosan parhaita" maybe?)

Or maybe the cover that Don did for the German publications.
Do you have a scan of it?

--Harry.



From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Mon Sep 25 13:15:28 2000
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:15:28 +0200
Subject: Picsou 344
References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075D8E@l04.research.kpn.com>
Message-ID: <004301c026e1$ecd43080$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

>> In issue #344 this month:
>> - pin-up illustration by Don Rosa for the Kalevala
>> http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/FC_PM__344D.jpg
>> - Another Kalevala illustration (made for Finnish "Sammon 
>> salaisuus ja muita Don Rosan parhaita" maybe?)
>
>Or maybe the cover that Don did for the German publications.
>Do you have a scan of it?

I've made one that you can see here:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/PM344-1.jpg

  Francois




From fabio5.rossi at telecomitalia.it  Mon Sep 25 12:16:37 2000
From: fabio5.rossi at telecomitalia.it (Fabio Rossi)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:16:37 +0200
Subject: R: Gottfredson strips on the web?
In-Reply-To: <002601c02660$cedbc880$6c8e2dd5@dblgro>
Message-ID: <000801c026d9$b2e9cf40$25163a0a@lo.telecomitalia.it>

Ops...

the Italian pride has distracted to me, the link that I have written is of Romano Scarpa.

some link:
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-47991/FloydGottfredson/

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/

ciao

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Fabio "Efx" Rossi [mailto:efx_al at tin.it]
> Inviato: domenica 24 settembre 2000 21.51
> A: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Oggetto: R: Gottfredson strips on the web?
> 
> 
> Oh Yes!!!
> 
> http://members.nbci.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html
> 
> 
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino <pierrebi at tiscalinet.it>
> A: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Data: sabato 23 settembre 2000 11.58
> Oggetto: Gottfredson strips on the web?
> 
> 
> >Looking for Gottfredson strips on the web. May anyone help me?
> >Ciao da Pietro
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 




From wolfsong at mpinet.net  Mon Sep 25 18:28:27 2000
From: wolfsong at mpinet.net (John Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:28:27 -0400
Subject: wizardworld.com article
Message-ID: <39CF7D2A.9FAFFE54@mpinet.net>

I haven't been checking mail while I've been in the process of moving.
I just saw in the mailer I get from wizardworld.com that there was a
Carl Barks article on their website, but it's already been taken down.
Anyone have the text of this article?




From HorizonHse at aol.com  Tue Sep 26 04:13:12 2000
From: HorizonHse at aol.com (HorizonHse@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:13:12 EDT
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #270 - 4 msgs
Message-ID: <6f.ae5ff33.27016038@aol.com>

Hi, all,

You may be interested to know that Money Magazine has finally recognized the 
financial wizardry of Scrooge McDuck.

In their October 2000 issue (page 28), they "wondered what financial tips 
could be gleaned from the character's misery existence. After all, since his 
debut in 1947, Scorrge McDuck managed to amass 'umpteencentrifugillion 
dollars and 16 cents" - or enough money to fill a three-acre money bin to a 
depth of 79 feet (actually now at 98 feet). Surely his insights are of 
interest.

"Here's a sampling:

"Love your money. Not for what it buys but for the sheer physical pleasure it 
bestows. 'I like to dive around in it like a porpoise, burrow through it like 
a gopher and thss it up and let it hit me on the head,' Scrooge once said.

"Waste not, want not. 'Thrift is the secret of my success,' Scrooge reveals 
in panel after panel. He spurns the newsboy because he can find a paper for 
free in the park, counsels Donald to 'never put your stomach ahead of your 
purse' and tells his clerks to use both sides of the paper 'and the edges 
too."

"The trickle-back theory. The backbone of his success. Scrooge comes to the 
agonizing conclusion that is would be cheaper to spend his money than build 
another bin to hold it. He hires Donald to do the dirty work. But since 
Scrooge himself owns the hotels where Donald stays, the restaurants he eats 
in and the mines that produced the ore for the jewelry he buys - the money 
return, making him richer than ever."

Not bad advice at all for acquiring financial wealth, if that's your goal.



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Tue Sep 26 10:15:16 2000
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:15:16 +0100
Subject: Tito Faraci & Ulrich Schroder in Pistoia, Italy, with Luca Boschi
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452202075DA6@l04.research.kpn.com>

From: Luca Boschi [mailto:cnotw at zen.it] 

Hi, all!
Just an information... If you want to come to Pistoia (even it's so far for
some of you :)), next saturday, at 5 in the afternoon, the Italian Storymen
Tito faraci and myself shall have a meeting in the Comic Shop Joker, in Can
Bianco Street, very close to Garibaldi Square. A long meeting with Tito
(Mickey Mouse and PK creator, now working also for the italian comics "Dylan
Dog" and "Diabolik"), speking about his Einaudi's best seller "Topolino
Noir" (with Cavazzano, Scarpa, Celoni, Ziche, De Vita and other artists) and
all sort of things.
Possible Guest Star, the French/German cartoonist Ulrich Schroder, artist of
this very week "Le Journal de Mickey" dedicated to Carl Barks. A must! Don't
miss it!


Luca 



From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Tue Sep 26 19:28:17 2000
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:28:17 +0200
Subject: Hommage to Carl Barks
Message-ID: <003501c027df$2bc07f80$7c031eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

This is an article I wrote on Carl Barks, that is also partly available on
the web:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/div/barks.php

(I would love to make an English version, but my English is not good enough
for that).





From anders_sivebaek at nns.dk  Tue Sep 26 22:01:38 2000
From: anders_sivebaek at nns.dk (Anders Christian=?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Siveb=BEk?=)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:01:38 +0100
Subject: Re 271, Kalevala in picsou
In-Reply-To: <200009261000.MAA11159@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200009261000.MAA11159@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <fc.0064b5680013d7793b9aca009d213586.13d785@nns.dk>

>
Harry and Francois
>>Or maybe the cover that Don did for the German publications.
>>Do you have a scan of it?
>
>I've made one that you can see here:
>http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/scans/PM344-1.jpg
That's the finnish cover for the story. 

The german one can be seen at duckhunt, at page with newer covers (which
isn't fully updated yet...)

I loove the french pin-up. Great job, Don! and Picsou gave you time to
fill in the dedication which you hadn't time for on the german
illustration for the story. 

It confuses me, though, that the french editors haven't published that
34th page where Scrooge gets his hat back... 

BTW I'm writing from one of my new adresses, at the teacher's college
which I attend now. 
So excuse me now, I have some studying to do!

AC




From erik.bergwall at telia.com  Wed Sep 27 17:02:37 2000
From: erik.bergwall at telia.com (Erik Bergwall)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:02:37 +0200
Subject: Picsou
Message-ID: <002201c02893$fb6556c0$5fd1ecc2@oemcomputer>

Hi.

Has the french "picsou magazine" a homepage? Which URL?

/Erik
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From mrhode at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 18:32:25 2000
From: mrhode at hotmail.com (Michael Rhode)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:32:25 GMT
Subject: Carl Barks and Nat'l Geographic
Message-ID: <F185PNmaIcRYzyvqgXe00006fff@hotmail.com>

Based on F.A. Elliott's suggestion about Barks and National Geographic:
Can anyone provide me with specific examples of a.) issues and the stories 
of Nat'l Geo that Barks used and b.) the comic book story he used them in 
esp. inc. US publication data?  My wife, in Nat'l Geographics' archives, has 
gotten interested in pursuing this.

And Don, if you used specific issues for specific stories, they're 
interested as well.

There may be something on their website about this as a result.  No promises 
tho.

Thanks,

Mike Rhode
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From frspreaf at tin.it  Wed Sep 27 18:39:17 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:39:17 +0200
Subject: Carl Barks and Nat'l Geographic
References: <F185PNmaIcRYzyvqgXe00006fff@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00bc01c028a1$88b9d660$8d360f97@maul>

From: "Michael Rhode" <mrhode at hotmail.com>

> Based on F.A. Elliott's suggestion about Barks and National Geographic:
> Can anyone provide me with specific examples of a.) issues and the stories
> of Nat'l Geo that Barks used and b.) the comic book story he used them in
> esp. inc. US publication data?

Alberto Becattini in an article included in Zio Paperone #106 gives a couple
of examples:

National Geographic April 1940 and October 1941 --> Donald Duck and the
Mummy Ring (Four Color Comic #29, September 1943)

There are some pictures fom those issues and the ispiration from them for
the story is clear.

--
Sprea

http://heinlein.cjb.net




From nils at math.uio.no  Wed Sep 27 23:03:33 2000
From: nils at math.uio.no (Nils Lid Hjort)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:03:33 +0200
Subject: Swedish auction -- `Svenander'? 
Message-ID: <200009272103.XAA13382@janus.uio.no>

As a proud member of the Swedish Duck Comics Association (NAFS(k))
I received information a couple of days ago about a comics auction,
to take place in Stockholm in November. The flier in question
contains brief descriptions of some of the [many] comics for sale,
including 
	"No. 3/48 NM96-97 (Svenander)"
and so on. I understand this points to the exquisite beauty of 
the comics in question -- but I'm simply curious as to the 
term `Svenander' being used here. What does it mean, what does
it refer to?

I'm sure Swedish ankists on the list are eager to explain the 
etymological roots here. 

Nils Lid Hjort 



From arthurfaria at projesom.com.br  Wed Sep 27 19:27:53 2000
From: arthurfaria at projesom.com.br (Arthur Faria Jr.)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:27:53 -0300
Subject: New Brazilian stories on the Web!
Message-ID: <001601c028f9$0bb8c4c0$33abfbc8@default>

    Hi!

    This is just a reminder:

These two Brazilian stories (translated to English) at...

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

- B 870024 "Donald Duck's Marriage" (part 2 and 3), 7 pages.
  Art: Luis Podavin (2) and (I guess) Verci de Mello (3)
    
- B 840095 Fethry Duck "Zorro, the Idiotic Avenger", 13 pages.
  Art: Luis Podavin.

... will stay there till next Sunday, when I'll
delete then for uploading the last part of "Donald
Duck's Marriage".

    Tchau,
    --Arthur.




From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 28 15:15:15 2000
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:15:15 CEST
Subject: Swedish auction -- `Svenander'?
Message-ID: <F148f6SL7TsBgSbHAxX00001b50@hotmail.com>

The name of the very first owner of this copy. The Svenander copy of the 
very first magazine, 1/48, is considered one of the two best copies of that 
magazine.


>From: Nils Lid Hjort <nils at math.uio.no>
>To: dcomics at strindberg.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Swedish auction -- `Svenander'?
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:03:33 +0200
>
>As a proud member of the Swedish Duck Comics Association (NAFS(k))
>I received information a couple of days ago about a comics auction,
>to take place in Stockholm in November. The flier in question
>contains brief descriptions of some of the [many] comics for sale,
>including
>	"No. 3/48 NM96-97 (Svenander)"
>and so on. I understand this points to the exquisite beauty of
>the comics in question -- but I'm simply curious as to the
>term `Svenander' being used here. What does it mean, what does
>it refer to?
>
>I'm sure Swedish ankists on the list are eager to explain the
>etymological roots here.
>
>Nils Lid Hjort
>
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From fstajano at uk.research.att.com  Thu Sep 28 15:55:33 2000
From: fstajano at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:55:33 +0100
Subject: Carl Barks and Nat'l Geographic
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c028a1$88b9d660$8d360f97@maul>
References: <F185PNmaIcRYzyvqgXe00006fff@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000928145350.02feb880@localhost>

At 2000-09-27 18:39 +0200, Francesco Spreafico wrote:
>Alberto Becattini in an article included in Zio Paperone #106 gives a couple
>of examples:
>
>National Geographic April 1940 and October 1941 --> Donald Duck and the
>Mummy Ring (Four Color Comic #29, September 1943)

This is the stuff originally pointed out in volume 1(1) of the CBL by, if I 
remember correctly, Ault and Andrae in an extensive and well-researched 
article/interview.

  Frank (filologo disneyano)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




From Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr  Thu Sep 28 17:35:53 2000
From: Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr (Francois Willot)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:35:53 +0200
Subject: "Duckburg in tears": special issue devoted to Carl Barks publishe
	d today
Message-ID: <2B516F17D00DD311AF4700A0C9E1F7A620C258@panic.ec-lille.fr>

Today's journal de Mickey, a special Barks issue, features:

- cover by Ulrish Schroeder (Donaldville en larmes)
- edito, letters, and an article on Carl Barks, his works and life
- covers he did for the Barks Librairy
- The Riddle of the Red Hat
- some Carl Barks gags unpublished before (in France)
- two WDC's 10 pagers
- links to Daniel van Eijmeren's, Marco Barlotti's and Per Starback's sites
- and much more stories and texts I don't recall, because I haven't the
issue rigth here with me. I'll try to give you more feedback later.

  Francois

PS: sorry for this personal message, but I'm trying to contact Georgios B.
from Greece, and his mail keeps bouncing back to me. So if you see this
Georgios, please contact me.



From mrhode at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 28 17:47:38 2000
From: mrhode at hotmail.com (Michael Rhode)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:47:38 GMT
Subject: Barks' Mummy Ring
Message-ID: <F6tosJ3Ih7jtrSByh1300006fc5@hotmail.com>

Francisco S. said:

"Alberto Becattini in an article included in Zio Paperone #106 gives a 
couple
of examples:

National Geographic April 1940 and October 1941 --> Donald Duck and the
Mummy Ring (Four Color Comic #29, September 1943)"

Can anyone use INDUCKS and give me the reprint info on Mummy Ring?  I know 
I've got it in something.

Thanks,

Mike Rhode

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From Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr  Thu Sep 28 17:53:18 2000
From: Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr (Francois Willot)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:53:18 +0200
Subject: Barks' Mummy Ring
Message-ID: <2B516F17D00DD311AF4700A0C9E1F7A620C25A@panic.ec-lille.fr>

Mike Rhode:

>Can anyone use INDUCKS and give me the reprint info on Mummy Ring?  I
>know I've got it in something.

I'm not translating all abreviations since there are quite a few, but here's
what I got:

Germany: BLDD 2, DOCL 1, TGD 86, WTTT 1(incomplete), WTTTZ 1(incomplete)
(Der Schlangenring)
Denmark: AA99B06, DS 1980(incomplete), GB 8 (Slangeringen)
France: JM 1779, PM 319 (Donald Duck and the Mummy's Ring)
Italy: GSQ 1(incomplete), ZP 106, ZPSP 1 (Paperino e l'anello maledetto)
The Netherlands: 77-22(incomplete), BV.055, KV.01 (De ring van de mummie)
Norway: DD99-08, GB 8 (Mumiens ring)
Sweden: GB 8, VKFT 80(incomplete) (Kalle och mumiens ring)
USA: BL 1-161, DDA 14, LICD 2, OS 29, USDD 1(incomplete), WDCD 44

Hope this helps.

  Francois



From frspreaf at tin.it  Thu Sep 28 17:57:04 2000
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:57:04 +0200
Subject: Barks' Mummy Ring
References: <F6tosJ3Ih7jtrSByh1300006fc5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <02ff01c02964$d0091b20$69010f97@maul>

From: "Michael Rhode" <mrhode at hotmail.com>

> Can anyone use INDUCKS and give me the reprint info on Mummy Ring?  I know
> I've got it in something.

In the US you mean?

BL 1-161
DDA  14 [pubdate:1989-08]
LICD  2 [pubdate:1994-02]
OS   29 [pubdate:1943-09]
USDD  1 [pubdate:1965] [pages 1, 16 and 17 missing]
WDCD 44 [pubdate:1973]

I hope somebody can help you with these abbreviations, I'm not familiar with
these editions, I'm sorry. (But OS --> One-Shot = Four Color, the original
version)

--
Sprea




From mrhode at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 28 18:05:43 2000
From: mrhode at hotmail.com (Michael Rhode)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:05:43 GMT
Subject: Barks' Mummy's ring again
Message-ID: <F21Q9cAgjHXwKHvyo3D00008386@hotmail.com>

Never mind my question about where it was reprinted; I remembered the Grand 
Comics Database (http://www.comics.org) gets data from INDUCKS and it worked 
fine.  Although I don't have nearly as many reprints of this story as I 
thought I would.

Any more suggestions about Barks and Nat'l Geo use would be much 
appreciated.  I asked Randy Scott at MSU's Comic Art Collection about the 
CBL and he said they're not indexed, so it's not possible to find the essays 
without reading each of the 30 volumes.

Mike
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From komix43 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 28 18:15:03 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:15:03 +0300
Subject: Barks' Mummy Ring in Greece
Message-ID: <OE53h08xWI0AT2JveR600000caf@hotmail.com>

Mike Rhode writes:

>Can anyone use INDUCKS and give me the reprint info on Mummy Ring?  I
>know I've got it in something.

Komix printed the "Mummy's Ring" in 1991. More info:

Komix # 39, September 1991
The Mummy's Ring (To Daxtilidi tis Moumias), complete story with the pages
1, 16-17 re-drawned from Western Publishing. Cover by C.Barks. No codes.

I hope I helped you Mike

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From fstajano at uk.research.att.com  Thu Sep 28 18:34:26 2000
From: fstajano at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:34:26 +0100
Subject: Barks' Mummy's ring again
In-Reply-To: <F21Q9cAgjHXwKHvyo3D00008386@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000928173141.02e71ea0@localhost>

At 2000-09-28 16:05 +0000, Michael Rhode wrote:
>so it's not possible to find the essays without reading each of the 30 
>volumes.

As I wrote earlier today (don't know if you got that message already or 
not), the "Mummy's ring compared to National Geographic" essay (not its 
real name) is at the end of Set 1 Volume 1. I don't know the whereabouts of 
any others by heart, though.

  Frank (filologo disneyano)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/




From komix43 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 29 10:39:16 2000
From: komix43 at hotmail.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:39:16 +0300
Subject: KOMIX # 148 contents
Message-ID: <OE28OeIiGXix4A2DreB00001bc8@hotmail.com>

The contents of the new komix issue (# 148):

STORIES:

The Black Knight, by Don Rosa
Knight in Shining Armor, by Carl Barks
Unknow tittle. Drawned by Paul Marry
A Goofy Look at Soccer, by Haime Diaz Studios

ARTICLES:

Carl Barks doesn't living here any more
A Burglar with Talent
Illegal's Universe (Don Rosa's interview about the Black Knight)
New Millennium's Dinosaurs
The First Cinema's Dinosaur
Giouliber in the Land of Mickey Mouse
Disney & Eizenstein

Cover by an unknow artist. But it reminds me the Ben Verhagen's style.
Next issue is a 100-pages dedicated issue to Carl Barks. Voodoo Hoodoo, by
Carl Barks
Is anybody who wants copies again? If yes, I'm ready to send copies
anywhere!
Best Wishes

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix43 at hotmail.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage (English & Greek)
A DCML member




From fms at uk.research.att.com  Fri Sep 29 12:39:53 2000
From: fms at uk.research.att.com (Frank Stajano)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:39:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Carl Barks and Nat'l Geographic
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000928145350.02feb880@localhost>
Message-ID: <Pine.SO4.4.04.10009291126190.11939-100000@pumpkin>

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Frank Stajano wrote:

> At 2000-09-27 18:39 +0200, Francesco Spreafico wrote:
> >Alberto Becattini in an article included in Zio Paperone #106 gives a couple
> >of examples:
> >
> >National Geographic April 1940 and October 1941 --> Donald Duck and the
> >Mummy Ring (Four Color Comic #29, September 1943)
> 
> This is the stuff originally pointed out in volume 1(1) of the CBL by, if I 
> remember correctly, Ault and Andrae in an extensive and well-researched 
> article/interview.

My recollection was not 100% accurate, so here are the details after 
checking. The article was indeed at the end of Set 1 Volume 1, but it was
by Andrae and Blum, while Ault was a coauthor of the interview from which
excerpts are quoted throughout the article.

I also checked the ZP 106 and was outraged that the article there is
signed Becattini but has no mention of the original CBL article or its
authors. All the National Geographic photographs have a credit to the NG
and the photographer in the margin, despite having been reproduced from
the CBL and not from the original magazine (presumably to avoid litigation
from NG); but dead silence about the substance of the essay. The only
mention of CBL in the article is in the caption of the Mummy's ring
*cover* that Carl Barks did for the slipcase to set 1.

This is not the first time I see something like this happening. As a
scientist and author I find it appalling.

I am aware (having been in that situation myself) that Disney grabs all
sorts of rights on the stuff done by its licencees. But even this has its
limitations. It means they can reuse that material without PAYING the
original authors; it isn't a blanket licence for plagiarism.

    Frank   (filologo disneyano)  http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms





From Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de  Fri Sep 29 17:28:03 2000
From: Jan.Follak at uni-konstanz.de (Jan Follak)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:28:03 +0200
Subject: Pier Lorenzo de Vita
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000929172803.007d19f0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de>

A few days ago I found the new issue of "Super Picsou Geant" #99 at a
newsstand with foreign comics, and I decided to buy it, because there is
the following story in it: "Per un dollaro in meno" by Gian Giacomo
Dalmasso and Pier Lorenzo De Vita from 1967. This one was done for the
Italian "Almanacco Topolino"-series, and according to Inducks, only
reprinted in France. 
In it, Donald teams up with the bad guy from Barks' "Sheriff of Bullet
valley", a reference that is already noted in Inducks. But is there also a
reference to the Sergio-Leone-movie "For a fistful of dollars" or its
sequel? I haven't seen those movies, so does anyone know? It seems likely,
because the story appeared in AT in 1967, at about the same time those
movies were made. 





From andrae at california.com  Fri Sep 29 18:12:35 2000
From: andrae at california.com (andrae)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:12:35 -0700
Subject: National Geographic
Message-ID: <l03130302b5fa0df8a3ec@[209.3.225.51]>

I don't know if my last message arrived since I don't see it posted on the
chat line.  As I mentioned before, Geoffrey Blum and I have done a number
of articles extensively describing and analyzing Barks' use of the
Geographics.  These articles appear in the Carl Barks hardbound library and
the color library.

Barks'use of the Geographic began with his first drawn story, "Pirate Gold"
into the Uncle Scrooge adventures.  It helped inspire such stories as Tra
La La, Land Beneath the Ground and the Terries and Fermies, and The Ghost
of the Grotto, and many more.  We have numerous photos matched with Barks'
art, cvomments from Barks, and even maps detailing the use of the
Geographics.

Best Wishes,

Tom Andrae

Robin Andrae
Tom Andrae
andrae at global.california.com






From HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl  Fri Sep 29 20:57:47 2000
From: HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl (Henri Kunne)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:57:47 +0200
Subject: Joutnal de Mickey
In-Reply-To: <200009291000.MAA13925@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929205014.00a8b560@pop5.inter.nl.net>

At 12:00 29-9-00 +0200, Francois Willot wrote:

>Today's journal de Mickey, a special Barks issue, features:
>
>- cover by Ulrish Schroeder (Donaldville en larmes)

Could you please give us a scan of this, somewhere on the Net?
Many thanks.
         Henri




From cnotw at zen.it  Fri Sep 29 21:17:11 2000
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:17:11 +0100
Subject: R: Pier Lorenzo de Vita
Message-ID: <20000929194150Z589932-28982+87@merganser.its.uu.se>

Hi, Jan!

> A few days ago I found the new issue of "Super Picsou Geant" #99 at a
> newsstand with foreign comics, and I decided to buy it, because there is
> the following story in it: "Per un dollaro in meno" by Gian Giacomo
> Dalmasso and Pier Lorenzo De Vita from 1967. This one was done for the
> Italian "Almanacco Topolino"-series, and according to Inducks, only
> reprinted in France.
> In it, Donald teams up with the bad guy from Barks' "Sheriff of Bullet
> valley"

> But is there also a
> reference to the Sergio-Leone-movie "For a fistful of dollars"

Surely! But only in the title. Lots of parodies popped up in Italy in those
days. Like "Silvestro e Gonzales: per qualche formaggino in meno" with the
famous WB characters...
And so on!

Luca



From favio31 at caramail.com  Fri Sep 29 21:45:53 2000
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:45:53 +0200
Subject: Duckburg in tears
Message-ID: <970260181013075@caramail.com>

Hi Henri!

>>- cover by Ulrish Schroeder (Donaldville en larmes)
>
>Could you please give us a scan of this, somewhere on the Net?
>Many thanks.

Well I've already made one. Please point your brwoser to:

http://members.forez.com/livia/jmbarks.jpg



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From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Wed Sep 20 17:34:58 2000
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:34:58 +0200
Subject: Mouseton in D96001 (to Don Rosa)
References: <7a.1aff993d.28da4e7d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c02318$5789a680$291efbc1@computer>

Lighter thoughts in these gloomy days thanks to the Ducks...

Gilles:
>>In your story "D96001", I think the original title contains the words "gravity" and >>"matter",
but I don't have the time to check, at page 12 panel 1, we can see on >>a board in Duckburg's
airport names of cities which the flights are going to. IN >>the french version, those are
Tombouctou, Puerto Povro, Costa Trouya, >>Louisville, and Mickeyville, the french for ...Mouseton...
Did you really do it, >>Unca'Keno, or is it just a mistake by the translators???

Rather an adaptation.
I don't have the French version. The aiport is "Coot International
Airport".
The original board ("A Matter of  Some Gravity", WDC&S 610, March '97--
ah, the good ol' Gladstone days!) reads:

Flight 109: Gooseville (11:02)
Flight 315: Farawaystan (11:37)
Flight 757: Costa Lotta (11:56)
Flight 214: Purto Pooro (12:14)
Flight 666: Louisville (Late)

                                                                                      Olivier



From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Fri Sep 22 11:17:43 2000
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:17:43 +0200
Subject: DCML digest #676
References: <200109211002.MAA07724@numerus.ling.uu.se> <002301c1429c$fffd3440$9fefffcc@default>
Message-ID: <000e01c02475$f6e12e20$6921fdc1@computer>

Keno Don Rosa:
>> You are making errors in assumption here, Olivier. First, the Gladstone
>> version is not the "original" ... it is a reprint of the earlier European
>> (Egmont) uses of that story. And you cannot always assume that they were
>> using my original script, word for word (though we usually tried to do
>> that).

Well, I knew it was a reprint, but I assumed the script was the original one. Thank you for the
(surprising) information.


                                                                                    Olivier



