From eega at supereva.it  Sat Dec  1 02:37:27 2001
From: eega at supereva.it (Eta Beta)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:37:27 +0100
Subject: x'mas delight
Message-ID: <20011201013723.TBNY12406.fep15-svc.tin.it@[212.171.143.109]>

LUCA

>And the Italiar reades shall read another Scarpa's Xmas story, in the
>meantime, in a brand new version unpublished (in this version) in all the
>world. A very likable Xmas present, I say...  Its title logo reminds
>"Topolino e Le Delizie Natalizie" VERY MUCH.

Sounds very much like "Mickey et les douceurs de Noel", to me... :-)

Actually, it's not too difficult to guess Scarpa's x'mas stories,
unlike most of his colleagues, he did only a coupla...

>Ellsworth and Atomino, with Eega Beeva, too, star in it!

Will Atomino be, correctly, light blue or pink again ?  :-)


Cheers

Eta Beta


From bi442 at lafn.org  Sat Dec  1 02:39:24 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 01:39:24 GMT
Subject: Huey, Dewey & Louie different experiences
Message-ID: <200112010139.fB11dNr45035@zoon.lafn.org>

(1)Regarding Nils Lid Hjort's question of Barks or non-Barks stories with one 
of Donald's nephews being separated from the other two:

In the Barks stories mentioned by Harry, one nephew was separated from the 
others by accident during an adventure. All 3 boys were still on the same side 
(opposing the villain(s), and did not experience a significant life experience 
that would alter their character enough to result in a permanent character 
differentiation.  

I do, however, remember a story by my ex-colleague, Egmont writer/storyboarder, 
Gorm Transgaard (interestingly for Nils,- an half Norwegian).  In this story, 
Louie had a severe romantic crush on a girl in school.  His brothers ridiculed 
him mercilessly. This was a situation that involved quite different 
psychological experiences of the triplets.  It also involved the two being 
temporary enemies of the one; thus, a very strong split of their unity (at 
least temporarily). They came back together at the end of the story, and we are 
expected to understand that there is no permanent affect of this breach in 
their relationship.  in real life, such opposition would likely have had a 
permanent (even if only very small) effect on their general trust of eachother. 
That is a normal part of developing individual personalities in real life.  I 
like to assume (as Gorm wished(and his Egmont Editor would have rightly 
insisted upon)) that at the end of the story, their relationship was as unified 
as ever, as if nothing had happened. 

I read the story from his original drawings sometime between 1989 and 1994, 
when we both worked in Denmark. I can't remember exactly, but I believe he 
submitted it in 1992 or 1993. I do not know when it was printed. perhaps you 
can help, David?

Jan Gulbransson (another half-Norwegian) and I worked on a co-production 
submitted to Oberon (VNU)in the early 1990s, which had a similar theme. It was 
given preliminary approval (and may have even been assigned a story code 
number).  But like approximately 200 pages of our co-production stories, 
requires minor story changes and drawing revisions that Jan has had no time for 
since 1994. Although some of those stories will probably be printed eventually, 
I doubt that we'll ever get to THAT one.  

Does anyone else remember any stories where the Boys were pitted against 
eachother as rivals in a situation?  I seem to have a faint recollection of 
seing a few Egmont stories with such situations, but can't remember the story 
or book details.

(2)Good luck to the new American Disney chat group's efforts to promote 
interest in revival of Disney Comics in USA.  Speaking of Disney Comics in the 
English language: I recently offered to find the "Onkel Dagoberts Schatzruhe" 
series of Albums/Jumbo Pockets for Richard Olson (who requested help in a DCML 
message last week).  He informed me that he had the first 2 in English!!! I 
assume these were British Egmont printings.  I had told him that I would look 
for German copies of the remaining issues for him (his 2nd language choice); 
and that I had seen 2nd hand issues of the Dutch "Dubbelalbum" printings in 
Dutch comics and book shops in recent years; and would get him those,if I 
couldn't find the German albums for him.

Can anyone tell me if any others of that series (after the first 2) were 
printed in English?(David, perhaps?) My experience of Britain is that once a 
Disney comic printing's current shelf life was over, it was impossible to find. 
I have NEVER seen a used British Egmont issue in a book store or comic shop. 
Frank Stajano confirmed that experience.  If, indeed there is no chance to get 
them in English, can any of our German members tell me if the German printings 
are easily available?  I seem to remember seeing some of them 2nd hand in comic 
and book shops in Germany when I worked there during 1986-1994. Sometimes EHAPA 
reprints popular classic material. Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers, Rob
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From dimadick at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:45:03 2001
From: dimadick at hotmail.com (Dim I Nticoudis)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 07:45:03 +0200
Subject: Nobucks McDuck.
Message-ID: <F55pTljBOh8s4KWiGtX0001138d@hotmail.com>

  Nobucks McDuck could be the one called in Greece "Apentar McDuck"(from the 
greek word "apentaros" which means "penniless".He is called "Stracetton 
McDuck" in "Calisota Online".This tramp cousin and look-alike of Scrooge 
McDuck first appeared in the story "Too Many McDucks"(S 70121) and he only 
reappeared once in a story in which he wins a TV quiz show due to his 
knowledge of geography(I do not have the second story's title or code).

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From bangfish at cableone.net  Sat Dec  1 06:48:11 2001
From: bangfish at cableone.net (Sue and Gary Leach)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:48:11 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #753 - 14 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200111291101.fATB1WM05982@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <B82DBD24.1046%bangfish@cableone.net>

Kriton:
 
> Um, I wasn't suggesting that Greek readers should stop buying Komix,
> only that they do not take over my monthly "column" in the DCML!!!
> Did I use a wrong expression?

This was your expression: "Thus, my monthly postings are going to cease in
protest, and I urge my fellow Greek readers not to pick up this column."

It says exactly what you meant, I just struck me that by "column" you meant
to say "comic". In short, my mistake, and sorry about that.

Gary



From pati at iki.fi  Sat Dec  1 12:05:12 2001
From: pati at iki.fi (Pekka Timonen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:05:12 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa's Christmas Calendar
Message-ID: <000b01c17a58$0cd0b640$5a0e6a0a@arenanet.fi>

Finnish Donald Duck weekly Aku Ankka has on its web pages Don Rosa's
Christmas Calendar. You can go there from their pages www.akuankka.fi and
then by clicking "Don Rosa - Joulukalenteri". Finnish version of Christmas
calendar has a picture with numbered 'doors' with a picture or some surprise
inside. Every day from December 1st to Christmas Eve has a new Don Rosa
picture.

At Aku Ankka home pages is a link to short text messages from Don Rosa
telling about his adventures in Finland. Click "Rosan tekstariterveiset" to
get there.

BTW, Don is right now in Finland.
--
Pekka Timonen (pati at iki.fi)



From armando.botto at libero.it  Sat Dec  1 12:17:25 2001
From: armando.botto at libero.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:17:25 +0100
Subject: Nobucks McDuck
Message-ID: <01ca01c17a59$c24eb2a0$da011c97@ccse0315>

William Price wrote:
> does anyone have any information about nobucks mcduck, scrooge's poor
relation? what stories he appeared in?
And Dim answered:
> Nobucks McDuck could be the one called in Greece "Apentar McDuck"(from the
greek word "apentaros" which means "penniless".He is called "Stracetton
McDuck" in "Calisota Online".This tramp cousin and look-alike of Scrooge
McDuck first appeared in the story "Too Many McDucks"(S 70121) and he only
reappeared once in a story in which he wins a TV quiz show due to his
knowledge of geography(I do not have the second story's title or code).

The TV quiz show story is "Easy Come - Easy Go" (S 75080). But the same
character had already re-appeared in "A Case Of Mistaken Identity" (S 72293,
described in Inducks as "Scrooge is mistaken with his look-alike beggar
cousin in another city").

As for the original name of the character, who knows... the Italian name is
different in the three stories: "Straccetton de' Paperoni", "Mac Mucher",
"Paperoff". *If* the character was called the same in the original English
scripts (which I wouldn't take for granted), I'd go for something like
"McMoocher" (lazy translator: "Mucher" has no meaning in Italian...).

The Inducks reports two other stories featuring a beggar cousin:

- "Alias Scrooge Mcduck" (S 71333); the Brazilian index lists among the
appearing characters "US' beggar cousin (Nadinhas or Galterio in Brazil)".
There's no known Italian reprint of the story, so I can't tell you more.

- "The Real Scrooge" (S 82120), in which "US's beggar cousin locks him in
money bin and takes his place". I've never read this one ("Zio Paperone e il
cugino usurpatore", in "Topolino" #1533), so I don't know if the character
is actually the same.

Anyway, these S-coded stories did never appear in the U.S., so it's possible
that the "Nobucks McDuck" William is looking for be another character...

Ciao,
Armando



From marcobar at ds.unifi.it  Sat Dec  1 12:06:55 2001
From: marcobar at ds.unifi.it (Marco Barlotti)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 12:06:55 +0100
Subject: time-traveling in a bath-tube
In-Reply-To: <200111291104.fATB4WM06316@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011201115445.00ae0d98@ds.unifi.it>

I seem to neatly remember a story drawn by Tony Strobl where the Ducks 
travel through time in a bath-tub-like time machine invented by Gyro.

The gadget in fact appears in a few Italian stories, but seems to be a 
reprise there.

I thought at first of W DD 109-01, "Og's iron bed" first published in issue 
#9 (September) 1966 of WDCS. But no, the gadget there is a different one.

Maybe I'm wrong and the bathtub only travels through space and not through 
time?
Well, you guys are here to dive and burrow thorough your comics 
collections, aren't you?    ;-)
So any help on this subject will be greatly appreciated!

Just in order to tell you where you should NOT look:
Gyro has a sand-clock- ("clepsydra-"?) shaped time-machine in "The phantom 
blot meets the Beagle Boys - Culprits, Inc."; and another time-machine by 
Gyro is used by Mickey and Goofy in W WDC 323-02 "Trapped in time". These 
are NOT the ones I'm looking for.
Other instances of time-machines invented by Gyro would be appreciated, 
however, even if not bath-tub shaped.

Thanks in advance for your help!

      Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/comics





From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Sat Dec  1 13:23:49 2001
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 07:23:49 EST
Subject: time-traveling in a bath-tube
Message-ID: <84.1f684a94.293a25d5@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/1/2001 6:25:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
marcobar at ds.unifi.it writes:


> Maybe I'm wrong and the bathtub only travels through space and not through 
> time?
> 

travels through time, in the early gold key issues of Donald Duck
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
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From kenneth.levanen at arcada.fi  Sat Dec  1 15:57:34 2001
From: kenneth.levanen at arcada.fi (Kenda)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:57:34 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Don Rosa X-mas Calendar
In-Reply-To: <200112011101.fB1B1oC25034@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0112011656000.26818-100000@penti.sit.fi>

I don?t know if it has been mentioned already, but there is a Don Rosa
X-mas Calendar on the Finnish Aku Ankka page.

http://www.akuankka.fi

-kenda-



From komixgreekpage at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 16:40:13 2001
From: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 07:40:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Komix Column
Message-ID: <20011201154013.25729.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all

I'd like to post the contents of Komix for a couple of
months only. If Komix don't stop publishing non-disney
stories, I'll stop the postings too.

Also, there are people who need info for their
databases, something that we can't ignore.

I'll post the contents of the new issue on Monday.
Best Wishes


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E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
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From timoro at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  1 16:58:11 2001
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 17:58:11 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa X-mas Calendar
Message-ID: <F235gXhV6qm39gA4HaH000169e0@hotmail.com>

Don Rosa is in Helsinki Finland right now, and you can also read his mobile 
phone text messages almost real time.
at http://www.akuankka.fi , click "Rosan tekstariterveiset".

Timo

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From armando.botto at libero.it  Sat Dec  1 22:31:40 2001
From: armando.botto at libero.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:31:40 +0100
Subject: Bath-tub-like time machines
Message-ID: <00b301c17aaf$9caaf6c0$ae021c97@ccse0315>

Marco wrote:
> Maybe I'm wrong and the bathtub only travels through space and not through
time?

I distinctly remember a story (and related cover) featuring Gyro's
jet-propelled bathtub (not a time machine):

W DD  118-01 The Mechanical Monster (TL 656, "Paperino e il protossido
d'azoto")

However, a bath-tub-like time machine by Gyro is featured in

W BB   10-03 The Roaring Twenties [BB go back in time to 1820es Wild West
with GY's time-tub]
(TL 791, "I Bassotti e la cella senza TV").

> Other instances of time-machines invented by Gyro would be appreciated,
however, even if not bath-tub shaped.

Here they come:

W CND  30-07 Time Machine Testers (TL 353, "Cip & Ciop e la principessa
prigioniera")

W US   50-03 Once Upon A Time Machine (TL 467, "Archimede Pitagorico e il
cavernicolo")

W BB   43-04 Old Time Crime [back in time to crack US' first safe] (no
Italian reprints)

Ciao,
Armando



From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Sat Dec  1 22:45:38 2001
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:45:38 +0100
Subject: Bath-tub-like time machines
References: <00b301c17aaf$9caaf6c0$ae021c97@ccse0315>
Message-ID: <000601c17ab1$8455cc60$3f21fdc1@computer>

Hello everyone!

Armando:
> W BB   43-04 Old Time Crime [back in time to crack US' first safe] (no Italian reprints)

Isn't the safe just a cupboard-lookiing safe (size and shape) standing in the street, and isn't
there only one guard to keep watch? I recall such story (in Mickey Parade)? and when the BB try to
steal it using a crane they turn out to do just what U$ had expected them to and in fact help him.

Have a nice week-end
Olivier




From e_halinen at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 15:46:59 2001
From: e_halinen at hotmail.com (Eero-Pekka Halinen)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:46:59 +0200
Subject: Don's interview
Message-ID: <F2627e0C9guA8M6XQQe0000beea@hotmail.com>

The other day I saw Don Rosa's interview on the Finnish Aamu-Tv (morning 
tv). After they had interviewed Don for some time, the other interviewer 
asked Don to draw a picture of $crooge McDuck (or $crooge Duck, as the 
interviewer called him). When Don was finished (48 seconds), the interviewer 
said in all of his wiseness: "It looks alike", and Don answered: "Yeah, a 
little". Funny.

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From Cebarat at aol.com  Sun Dec  2 18:04:03 2001
From: Cebarat at aol.com (Cebarat@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:04:03 EST
Subject: Bathtub like time machines
Message-ID: <105.d49c122.293bb903@aol.com>

Another example of Gyro using a bathtub-like device to travel through time: 
In the DuckTales episodes "Sir Gyro de Gearloose" and "Time Teasers," Gyro 
uses "the Time Tub" to travel to "the days of knights" and "Duckburg Harbor 
circa 1687," respectively.

Chris Barat
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From CarmenG at aol.com  Sun Dec  2 20:52:04 2001
From: CarmenG at aol.com (CarmenG@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:52:04 EST
Subject: Bathtub machines
Message-ID: <13.2b27961.293be064@aol.com>

Forgive me--I know this is off-topic, but this talk of bathtub machines 
reminded me of a comic I read as a child (1960s-70s). My older brother's 
classes would regularly receive a comic book in school (Imagine THAT!!). I 
don't remember the title, but it would include comics such as the biographies 
of famous people, the origins of a certain volcano, the real story of 
Robinson Crusoe, etc., so evidently it was educational. However, it also 
included a hilarious (well, hilarious to an elementary school kid) 
letters-to-the-editor section on the front & back inside covers called "Dear 
Backtalk." AND it would include comics that were simply fun.
    And one of these was about a boy who had a flying bathtub. He could 
control it by the use of the faucet handles. I'm pretty sure it was Not a 
time machine, but just a vehicle for flight.
    I dearly loved these comics (along with my duck comics) and was wondering 
if ANYONE had ever heard of these things??? Sorry to veer off-topic, but if 
anyone would know, he or she would be in this group. (Maybe this is a job for 
Don Rosa....)
    Okay, back to the ducks--
Carmen


From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Sun Dec  2 22:20:31 2001
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:20:31 EST
Subject: OT, was Bathtub time traveling
Message-ID: <123.860f6e6.293bf51f@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/2/2001 2:57:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
CarmenG at aol.com writes:


> 
>     I dearly loved these comics (along with my duck comics) and was 
> wondering 
> if ANYONE had ever heard of these things??? 

Sure, you were reading "Treasure Chest"
     I believe these were given away (or sold?) in Roman Catholic schools in 
the usa. the last year they were sold on the newstands.
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
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From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sun Dec  2 22:44:40 2001
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:44:40 +0100
Subject: Sv: #754
Message-ID: <200112022216.fB2MGSqs056405@mail.mira.dk>

Nils about HDL
> Are there Barks stories, or other Duck stories, where one of
> the three spends significant amounts of time apart from 
> the other two? 
I remember one Pocket-book story where Louie (red-cap) fell in love
with 
a girl and wrote poems - he spend some time with her at that time. 

I once read that a couple - Pat and Carol McGreal - planned to
make stories were one of the kids had astma - I read it in a fanzine. 
But to me that doesn't really make sence - tell me how it would, if you
can figure out. 

Yours
AC



From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Mon Dec  3 14:19:59 2001
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:19:59 +0100
Subject: MM Through History
Message-ID: <004301c17bfd$375452e0$0d6c1eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

Marco asked me about the "MM Through Time" series. Here's my reply -

>How many pages?

First page of the series on #15
Last page on #1362
But there are 3 pages on #1256 (because there were no Time Travel pages on
1255bis and 1255ter).
"Mickey Gardien de Camargue" (JM 219-231), 13 p. is not part of the series

Total:
1362 - 15 + 1 -13 +2 = 1337 pages

That seems correct, because I.N.D.U.C.K.S. say the same.

You may want to add F JM 99999, 8 pages, "Mickey ? travers les si?cles"
Gilles Corre/Jos? Gonzalez from issue 2481 (1999).

And there is another series where Mickey travels in the time when he sneezes
(instead of a coup in the head), by Patrick Galliano and Gen-Clo. 8 stories
published in 1991. F JM 91501 to 508.

>started in 1952, ended in 1978

Yes

>scripts by Pierre Fallot in the beginning, then by Jean-Michel Le Corfec,

Yes

Note: Juliette Benzoni and Claude Yelnick wrote scripts that were never
published. At Fallot's
death, Michel Mandry and Raymond Calame - the editors of the Journal - were
looking for someone to provide scripts. They asked Benzoni and Yelnick
(writters at Lecture pour tous, children stories) to make a try. Mandry
himself also made a try. Then they asked the breton le Corfec, and hired
him.

These scripts are coded in Inducks "FU JM S X" to "FU JM S Z" - they were
*never
drawn*.

>dawings by Louis Santels (in the beginning) and Pierre Nicolas
>(afterwards).

Louis *Santel* (everybody calls him "T?nas"). He only drew he first 9
pages.

>Do you have any correction or/and addition to the above information?

The best scripts IMO are the last ones by le Corfec. He used to put a word
joke in every sentence (or almost).

  Francois







From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Dec  3 07:30:21 2001
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:30:21 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Komix Column
In-Reply-To: <200112021102.fB2B2aC19587@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <qz3d2swev7.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>

APOSTOLIS:

> I'd like to post the contents of Komix for a couple of
> months only. If Komix don't stop publishing non-disney
> stories, I'll stop the postings too.

Alternatively, you could submit the index data directly to
Harry, or, if you find this task daunting, use Francois' form at
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/add.php to fill in the data.

	Kriton	(e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
	      	(WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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From michael.schartau at swipnet.se  Mon Dec  3 15:36:29 2001
From: michael.schartau at swipnet.se (Michael Schartau)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:36:29 +0100
Subject: #754
References: <200112022216.fB2MGSqs056405@mail.mira.dk>
Message-ID: <008a01c17c07$e552aae0$a10611ac@flygtaxi.se>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" > I once read that a couple - Pat and Carol McGreal - planned to
> make stories were one of the kids had astma - I read it in a fanzine. 
> But to me that doesn't really make sence - tell me how it would, if you
> can figure out. 
> 
> Yours
> AC
> 
Were is the problem. One child in a family can be astmatic and the rest could be without the problem.
HD&L is not from the same egg, they are not triplets, (right?)

Yours
Michael




From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Mon Dec  3 09:15:50 2001
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:15:50 +0200
Subject: On the Komix situation
Message-ID: <qzy9kkv07g.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>

KRITON:

re: KOMIX column
> Well, I did expand a bit on your column, with scans and translations,
> just because it was fun to do so. This was quite a bit of work, and right
> now, doing it would feel as exactly that: work.

No question about it! However, by "KOMIX column" I simply meant presenting
the contents. 

>I suppose I could limit
> myself to just the presentations, but it would be almost equivalent to
> not doing anything at all.

I beg to differ! While reading the articles therein has a significant
value-added, I  think that many people would be interested in just knowing
the contents of an issue, be it for indexing purposes or anything else.
Plus, I get the feeling that I wasn't "doing anything at all" when it was
myself doing simply the contents' presentations, when I thought (and still
think) that providing hard information has its own value! 

> You mean the "year that was" articles, and that the items described
> therein had been actually for sale?

There were some articles towards the end of Gladstone II by Mr. Bruce
Hamilton where various old, rare comics were presented and which were for
sale--I need to dig really deep into my collection to find the exact
issues...Someone else in this List may have them more handy.

Cheers,

Archontis


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Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228


From brit.lunnan at chello.no  Mon Dec  3 11:41:52 2001
From: brit.lunnan at chello.no (Lunnan & Hjort)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:41:52 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa in Finland (?) 
Message-ID: <qzu1v8v053.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>

Finns: please report. On the actual book being launched,
meetings, interviews, bookstores, &cetera. 
Nils Lid Hjort 


From frspreaf at tin.it  Mon Dec  3 15:46:58 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:46:58 +0100
Subject: Komix Column
References: <qz3d2swev7.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00a901c17c09$64728060$7f01a8c0@pc7aula2>

From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>

> Alternatively, you could submit the index data directly to
> Harry, or, if you find this task daunting, use Francois' form at
> http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/add.php to fill in the data.

I would rather have these data sent to me, since I edit Greek data(otherwise
Harry or Fran?ois should forward them to me).

(Still I'd prefer them on this list, so that everybody who might be
interested can see them right away)

--
Sprea




From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 19:03:35 2001
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:03:35 EST
Subject: GCD - Chase Craig, RIP
Message-ID: <7a.1edcf440.293d1877@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/3/2001 7:09:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
SRoweCanoe at aol.com writes:


> taken from an Usenet post by Mark Evanier:
> 
> Chase Craig, who edited as many great comics as anyone who ever lived,
> passed away last night at the age of 91.  He was recuperating from an
> operation to correct injuries he had suffered in a fall three weeks
> earlier.
> 
> Chase was born in Texas and moved to Los Angeles in the thirties to
> get into the animation business.  His fellow Texan, Tex Avery, gave
> him a job in the story unit at Warner Brothers, where he worked for
> some time without -- for some reason -- ever getting a screen credit.
> After a few years, he decided to turn his attention to print
> cartooning and left...only to be quickly tapped by Western Printing
> and Lithography to write and draw stories for its first Bugs Bunny
> comics.  Chase produced over half of the first issue of LOONEY TUNES
> AND MERRIE MELODIES comics, issued under the Dell label, including the
> authorship of the MARY JANE & SNIFFLES strip.  (Sniffles the Mouse had
> been a character in the cartoons but Chase came up with the format for
> this long-running strip, naming the character of Mary Jane after his
> then-recent bride.)
> 
> Western soon hired him as an editor and, through the mid-seventies, he
> worked out of their Los Angeles office, editing (at one point) a comic
> per day, at a time when it was not uncommon for one of their comics to
> sell over a million copies.  He was the editor who kept Carl Barks
> producing DONALD DUCK and UNCLE SCROOGE stories, and Paul Murry doing
> MICKEY MOUSE and so many others.  He was one of the creators of
> MAGNUS, ROBOT FIGHTER and worked over the years with an array of
> talent that included not only the above but also Michael Maltese, Alex
> Toth, Russ Manning, Dan Spiegle, Warren Tufts, Pete Alvarado, Mike
> Royer, Gaylord DuBois, Don Glut, Tony Strobl, Phil DeLara and so many
> more...
> 
> ...including me.  I've always said I had two mentors in the comic book
> business -- Chase Craig and Jack Kirby.  Chase bought the first
> scripts I ever had published in this country and he taught me an awful
> lot about how to pace and structure a story.  I wish I could remember
> a tenth of it...
> 
> A fuller obit/bio will be up on my website in a few days, and
> appearing in COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE.
> ------------------------------
> NOW ONLINE: www.POVonline.com
> A website about comic books, cartoons, TV,
> movies, Groo the Wanderer, Broadway, Las
> Vegas, Hollywood, Stan Freberg and other stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
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From mani at iki.fi  Mon Dec  3 19:55:07 2001
From: mani at iki.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 20:55:07 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa in Finland (?) 
In-Reply-To: <qzu1v8v053.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011203204635.0218d0f0@imap.sooninternet.net>

Nils:
>Finns: please report. On the actual book being launched,
>meetings, interviews, bookstores, &cetera.

I don't know about interviews or meetings since I haven't followed the the 
newspapers or the morning TV so closely recently and Don hasn't yet visited 
here (Tampere - eagerly waiting for tomorrow). The book, anyway, appeared 
on stores here about two weeks ago (probably a bit earlier in Helsinki).

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja



From bi442 at lafn.org  Tue Dec  4 15:57:54 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:57:54 GMT
Subject: Huey, Dewey and Louie ARE triplets
Message-ID: <200112041457.fB4EvsF31462@zoon.lafn.org>

I've always assumed Huey, Dewey and Louie are identical triplets from the same 
egg.  Everyone I've ever discussed them with seemed to think so too.  I know 
that my memory is slowly eroding, but I don't think I've guessed wrong in this 
matter.  Let's hear from many others.  What do you say?  They are purported to 
be brothers, and the same age.  They seem to look quite alike.  They finish 
eachothers' sentences.  Although it is true that their friends and family can 
tell them apart, even Donald has mistaken one for the other, at times.  I grew 
upwith identical twin cousins (in same house). They looked very much alike; but 
different enough in small ways to tell them apart.

Sorry to hear about Chase Craig's passing away.  I will be very interested to 
read Don Ault's upcoming book that will include recent interviews with him.

Happy Christmas and New Year to ALL,  Rob
Klein

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From jyri_85 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  4 16:02:35 2001
From: jyri_85 at yahoo.com (jyri lehtinen)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:02:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Don in Finland
In-Reply-To: <200112041101.fB4B1dr20322@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20011204150235.61913.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com>

> Finns: please report. On the actual book being
> launched,
> meetings, interviews, bookstores, &cetera. 
> Nils Lid Hjort 

Just came from the bookstore, I even got a facial
expression from Don with my PP and CK books.

On Aku Ankka homepage he's saying how nice it is to
sit for hours on end and make thousands autographs day
after day. ;)

Then on his message column he kiddingly asked which
finnish city he should pick for the next Finnstory.
It's obvious that he should pick Tampere. Turku is a
tuppuvillage.

> HD&L is not from the same egg, they are not
> triplets, (right?)
> 
> Yours
> Michael

I think that this would be a great story idea, with an
inconlusive ending.  

Jyri in dark and icy Tampere




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From mikep at iki.fi  Tue Dec  4 14:43:59 2001
From: mikep at iki.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:43:59 +0200 (EET)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #757 - 14 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200112041102.fB4B2Or20555@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112041529120.23856-100000@green.verkkotieto.com>

NILS:
> Finns: please report. On the actual book being launched, meetings,
> interviews, bookstores, &cetera.

I guess you've read Don's SMS messages at http://www.akuankka.fi/ (Click
on "Rosan tekstariterveiset")

I met Don yesterday, when he was visiting my native Turku. The man was
incredibly busy first doing a press conference at the popular local bar
Cosmic Comic Cafe at 10am. After that, two hours of signings at CCC, then
two hours at one bookstore and then two hours at another bookstore.

I managed to catch Don for a few seconds at the first signing, but he
seemed so busy I didn't want to interrupt his signings, so I just went by
and said hello.

Don'd agreed to meet me and fellow DCML member Timo Ronkainen at the bar
after all the signings, but I missed that because I was in a theatre
rehearsal. I called CCC and heard Don, Timo, editors of Aku Ankka and some
key people of Cosmic Comic Cafe had went to a local restaurant called
Ribs, which is where I went to meet them.

And that's where all nine of them were, sitting in a ten person table.
Also with them was the famous Finnish comic artist Juba. I'd originally
intended to just step by and say hi, but I soon found myself sitting at
the empty seat chitchatting with friends. (Although this occasionally
included long silences, it didn't mean we didn't have a good time. Poor
Don had a hard time of getting used to this Finnish way of communication,
but I guess he's getting the hang of it by now... ;)

The meal seemed fabulous enough, Ribs being a famous steak house in Turku.
I say seemed, because I'm a vegetarian and had to eat wokkiba-ba, a
collection of vegetables and mushrooms. It was okay, but the steaks and
ribs looked incredibly delicious!

We were talking about Don's work, Juba's work, Aku Ankka, The Lord of the
Rings (that being the day the movie tickets came for sale), Disney
policies, the Finnish Independence Day ball at the President's castle (to
which Juba had been invited), and lots of little things like that.

The evening ended with both Don and Juba signing and drawing for most
people around the table, including each other. After that we took a few
pictures outside of the restaurant, and headed home. Well, I headed home,
Don and the Aku Ankka editors to their hotel and the others back to Cosmic
Comic Cafe.


-- 
Mike Pohjola
mikep at iki.fi            +358-50-5238399            http://www.iki.fi/mikep



From mani at iki.fi  Tue Dec  4 17:26:21 2001
From: mani at iki.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 18:26:21 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa in Finland (?) 
In-Reply-To: <qzu1v8v053.fsf@tempus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011204173409.0274d880@imap.sooninternet.net>

Nils:
>Finns: please report. On the actual book being launched,
>meetings, interviews, bookstores, &cetera.

Ok. Now I, too, have an autographed Crusader King book. (Actually I'll have 
two since apart from what was told here earlier, apparently it was possible 
to order the leather bound books directly from Helsinki Media. Thanks Arttu 
Salminen's site for this information.)

My report:

I got there a bit late, only an hour and 20 minutes before the arrival of 
Finland's most wanted person. There were about 10-15 people on the queue 
before me. Of course it was didn't take long before I reached Don, but it 
would have been nice to be there first :-) .

After I had got the autograph, I went back to see how long the queue was. 
It was long (I mean long as in R-E-A-L-L-Y long). I wonder if everybody who 
wanted got the autograph.

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja



From hanskp at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  4 19:41:23 2001
From: hanskp at hotmail.com (Hans Pedersen)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:41:23 
Subject: Barks art - interesting story
Message-ID: <F162sVlH2so7mbAfw2Z00014de3@hotmail.com>

First, sorry if this mail shows up in an odd format; I've yet to figure out 
the correct hotmail settings to use.

Given that I know several long time Disney fans and collectors are 
subscribing to this list, I wanted to share a story that I think is quite 
interesting and touching.

This Spring, I saw an original piece of Carl Barks art offered for sale on 
eBay. As some of you know, it is very rare to see early Barks originals up 
for sale, and I was particularly puzzled by one statement by the seller, who 
said (paraphrasing): "I know this piece is original since it was given to me 
in person by Barks 40 years ago". Outrageous claims are pretty common on 
eBay and I didn't really believe this. Still, it was a wonderful piece (an 
outtake from "Land Beneath the Ground") so I bid and ended up winning the 
auction.

It turned out that the seller worked just a few miles from my home in Palo 
Alto, California, so he offered to come over and give it to me in person. 
His name was John Spicer, which all sources seem to agree was the first fan 
to ever visit Carl Barks. He was an extremely nice person and told me a 
great story about how he managed to get Barks address and about his visit to 
the Barks' tiny house back around 1960.
It turned out that Barks had given John a second drawing, which I also 
bought from him (an Uncle Scrooge outtake from the early 1950s).

6 months later, John wrote to me again saying that his brother also had a 
piece of art, which Barks had given to him during the same visit. Like John, 
his brother had held on to this drawing for 40 years. For some reason, he 
had also decided to sell it now, and I just bought it from him.

Aside from their collectible value, the two pieces (which fit right after 
each other in the same US story) tell one of the most remarkable and 
touching stories that I have ever seen during my lifelong addiction to this 
hobby: both bear the same dedication by Barks (one to "John", the other to 
"Bill"), yet they have aged slightly differently because of the different 
conditions they were stored under while separated for more than 40 years. 
Most of all, they tell the story of two true fans who both kept their gift 
from Barks throughout their lives, until Barks finally passed away. It would 
have been so easy for them to sell the drawings for a good chunk of money, 
and, given how so many other people tried to advantage of Barks commercially 
after he finally gained recognition, I thought it was really beautiful to 
see a such a positive and genuine exception to the rule.

Hans K. Pedersen
E-mail: hans at pixar.com


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From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Tue Dec  4 21:04:47 2001
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:04:47 EST
Subject: Barks art - interesting story
Message-ID: <142.5c0422f.293e865f@aol.com>

nice story, you left out however

<<6 months later, John wrote to me again saying that his brother also had a 
piece of art>>

that his brother would be Bill Spicer, comic book professional (mostly lettering for Gold Key!) and former fan publisher of Graphic Story Magazine and Fanfare (and creator of the term: Graphic Novel).

and congratulations on your art. 

Do we dare ask you what you paid?
;-)
steven rowe


From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Wed Dec  5 00:13:35 2001
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 00:13:35 +0100
Subject: Walt Disney would be 100 today!
Message-ID: <000b01c17d19$4cd3fc20$2321fdc1@computer>

Hello everyone!

I haven't had time to update my site for a while.
Now here's the first of  a series of  special features for Walt Disney's 100th Birthday!
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/events/disney100/wd100.htm
(it is a 385 kb image)

Please note that I have changed the url of  my site ("Of  Mice and Ducks"):
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/
The old url automatically redirects you to the new one.
Thanks for updating your bookmarks and links.

Best wishes,
Olivier
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From cien2 at cbn.net.id  Wed Dec  5 16:02:00 2001
From: cien2 at cbn.net.id (Arie Fachrisal)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:02:00 +0700
Subject: Walt Disney would be 100 today! (Olivier)
References: <200112051103.fB5B3ir08340@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <00c801c17da0$3cd7cea0$661c9eca@arie>

Hello all,
The local publication here has just release the special edition of "100
years of Magic" of the Donald Duck weekly. It has some good articles
(compared to the usual local DD articles, i mean) and "The Three Cabalerros"
story by Don Rosa. It's in Indonesian language but they kept the singing
language in the english version. The one-page article about Carl Barks isn't
thaat great though, and the editor "use" the Barks photo from the Grimble
Gromble homepage. Drop me a message if anyone interested in it.

Best,
Arie Fachrisal
==============================================
"The LAW! Haa! Haa!... I obey the law only when it's on MY side!"
==============================================



From Norbert.Stippler at rhein-main.net  Thu Dec  6 12:45:29 2001
From: Norbert.Stippler at rhein-main.net (Norbert Stippler)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:45:29 +0100
Subject: Disney's 100th Birthday
Message-ID: <3C0F5A59.D5A27AEF@rhein-main.net>

A very long, but very good article about the films Walt Disney produced
personally in the early years can be read in geman language under
http://www.frankfurter-rundschau.de/archiv/fr30t/h120011204086.htm

The title, translated, would mean: "Walt Disney's asthetic Utopia: The
100th birthday of an artist wrongly forgotten"

Greetings,

Norbert


From cnotw at zen.it  Thu Dec  6 14:16:19 2001
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:16:19 +0100
Subject: Jet McQuack
Message-ID: <20011206153739Z178276-40210+59@emberiza.its.uu.se>


Hi, all!

In an old issue of the italian "Mega Almanacco", July 1989, was printed a
"strange" story, titled "Le GM alla ricerca di rarit?". Its story code is:
S 87094. It's not a DuckTales story (and "normal" Beagle Boys star in it).
But... There are also Doofus and Launchpad (called Jet) McQuack!

It's the only one story with this peculiarity? Well, myself too, once, put
Launchpad into al "all - stars" Mickey story, but only into the crowd of
characters.

The other possibility is that originally, this one *was* a DuckTales story
and later someone decided to use its plot or story line for different
purposes, changing only the three Beagles' look.

Any ideas about?

Bye,

Luca
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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Dec  6 17:55:00 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:55:00 +0100 
Subject: Jet McQuack
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BB0@l04.research.kpn.com>

Luca:

> "Le GM alla ricerca di rarit?". S 87094.
> Any ideas about?

Could it be that this story was made while the "DuckTales" TV series was
still in the making? Maybe the makers didn't decide yet the definitive looks
and names of the characters.
That would explain the Beagle Boys, as well as the unusual name "Jet
McQuack".

--Harry.


From cnotw at zen.it  Thu Dec  6 23:41:01 2001
From: cnotw at zen.it (Luca Boschi)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 23:41:01 +0100
Subject: (A sort of) Scoop in the Studio Program DuckTales stories (?)
Message-ID: <20011206215230Z24686-93718+30@emberiza.its.uu.se>

Oh, hallo, Harry!

>> "Le GM alla ricerca di rarit?". S 87094.
>> Any ideas about?
>
> Could it be that this story was made while the "DuckTales" TV series was
> still in the making? Maybe the makers didn't decide yet the definitive looks
> and names of the characters.
> That would explain the Beagle Boys, as well as the unusual name "Jet
> McQuack".

Maybe... Even if "Jet" is the *usual* italian name for Launchpad. The
"quite" strange thing is that in that very book there are three *normal*
DuckTales stories, with code numbers showing that they were produced an year
after "Le GM alla ricerca di rarit?" (1988). Another detail which explains
the story S 87094 is *not* a DuckTales one is that Mrs. Beackley is not in
it. Another unnamed, dogfaced woman takes her place in the McDuck office.
But (even stranger)... one of the three *normal* Beagles (176-176) eats
hamburgers, and is called... "Burger"!

So, maybe really that the story was produced while the TV serial was still
in its making, and later was "partially edited" as a *normal* Junior
Woodchucks' one. Obviously it's not a masterpiece, but it deserves to be
pointed as a rarity... The translation of its very title, from Italian, is,
indeed: "The JW looking for rarities"...
Curious!

Luca


From olson32 at attglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 00:23:13 2001
From: olson32 at attglobal.net (olson32@attglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 17:23:13 -0600
Subject: Rob Klein
Message-ID: <3C0FFDE1.D7EBFF73@attglobal.net>

I am sorry to use this forum to make a personal contact but Rob's ISP
will no longer accept email from mine.  Rob, please email me your phone
number.
Thanks,
Richard




From DGE at ECN.egmont.com  Fri Dec  7 12:10:14 2001
From: DGE at ECN.egmont.com (DGE@ECN.egmont.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:10:14 +0100 
Subject: (A sort of) Scoop in the Studio Program DuckTales stories (?)
Message-ID: <E6870F67C781D511A2EB00508BF3B1430BC835@CPHEGTD1-XCH02>

	Hey Luca! Hey Harry!

	Yeah, the earlier S-coded "DuckTales" stories aren't quite in tune
with the TV series (yet).
	Very similarly, the first S-coded "Chip 'n' Dale's Rescue Rangers"
story shows Duckburg-type dogfaced humans living in the city. All later
stories show 'human' humans (like in the actual "Rescue Rangers" TV series).

	David

	P. S. Luca, I've been trying to reach you by phone lately, and
failing. What are the right numbers to call you with, and at what time of
day? :-)


From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Fri Dec  7 13:53:17 2001
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:53:17 +0100
Subject: Picsou   #359
Message-ID: <003201c17f1e$246f39a0$0d6c1eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

... is a special "vintage" comics:

The Seven Dwarfs by Walt Kelly (WDC 43)
I Sette Nanni e la fee incantata by Martina/Scarpa (1959)
Snowwhite and Scrooge by Paul Murry (MM in Fantasyland 1, 1956)
Alice in Wonderland by Riley Thompson (1951)

All stories are accompanied by a mini article on each author, with covers of
the original comics.

Also Taliaferro strips, Mezzo drawings, 40s and 50s DD posters.

  Francois






From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Dec  7 20:01:09 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:01:09 +0100 
Subject: Barks (RE: Harald)
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BB9@l04.research.kpn.com>

Harald:

> > [Barks] wrote a poem for his fans (published here on DCML).

> The poem sounds VERY interesting - where could I find it (on DCML)?

One place to find it is:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/inmemoriam.html

--Harry.


From studiohavas at utanet.at  Fri Dec  7 18:55:11 2001
From: studiohavas at utanet.at (Harald Havas)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:55:11 +0100
Subject: Harald
References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0B77@l04.research.kpn.com>
Message-ID: <000001c17f4f$d15f1d20$e9e198d4@a8201960>

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
An: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2001 10:26
Betreff: Harald


> Harald Havas:
>
> > I don't know if there's still anybody here who remembers me.
>
> There sure is! Nice "talking" with you again.
> Your books sounds very interesting. And it will be in a language I can
read!
> 8-)

I'll keep you all posted about date, price, name...

> > - Barks: what was important between his trip to Europe 1994
> > and his death?
> > Any more paintings? Any more stories written? Something else
> > - like a series
> > of Donald drawings(?) he did at the time when he officially
> > became a "Disney
> > Legend". Private stuff (end of his affiliation with his
> > former management).
> > Who knows about this? Where can I find a up-to-date biography
> > that includes these details?
>
> I don't know how up-to-date it is, but you might try Dani?l's "Guidebook"
> site:
> http://www.seriesam.com/barks/ (and maybe in particular
> http://www.seriesam.com/barks/art_dn.html).

Thanks! I'll check.

> Barks had some small involvement in the story "Somewhere in Nowhere". He
> also did a few paintings after 1994. And he did a bunch of drawings (70 or
> so) to celebrate his 96th birthday. And he wrote a poem for his fans
> (published here on DCML). And he probably did some other things that I
> forgot to mention.

The poem sounds VERY interesting - where could I find it (on DCML)?

> > - other artists: we'd like to include a (short) chapter showing the
> > unknowing public what happened to Disney-Comics after Taliaferro,
> > Gottfredson and Barks. I mean: GREAT creators that followed
> > their footsteps. Like Rosa or Rota. Now: Who would you include?
>
> Apart from Scarpa, I'd mention Daan Jippes. And possibly Mau Heymans. And
> maybe Daniel Branca.

Looks like we have to reduce pages, and this chapter as such will be
dropped... but I mention the other artists on several occasions.

> > 1. Bad English
> > There's a trick! Write your mail in Word (or a similar
> > program) turn on
> > "English" as language and the program shows you all your
> > misspellings - and can edit them! ;-)
>
> Not *all* your misspellings. No computer program has been good enough to
> correct "I don't no weather the whether will bee good tomorrow".

Sure, but it helps a lot nevertheless ;-)

Harald



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 17:08:57 2001
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:08:57 +0100
Subject: Harald
References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0B77@l04.research.kpn.com> <000001c17f4f$d15f1d20$e9e198d4@a8201960>
Message-ID: <OE272vGIV9s9pjg2SmS0001297e@hotmail.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harald Havas" <studiohavas at utanet.at>
To: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 7 december 2001 18:55
Subject: Re: Harald


> > Barks had some small involvement in the story "Somewhere in Nowhere". He
> > also did a few paintings after 1994. And he did a bunch of drawings (70
or
> > so) to celebrate his 96th birthday. And he wrote a poem for his fans
> > (published here on DCML). And he probably did some other things that I
> > forgot to mention.
>
> The poem sounds VERY interesting - where could I find it (on DCML)?

Here (if this is the poem you are referring to:)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Naiman" <mn at inet1.inetworld.net>
To: <dcomics at strindberg.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 1 april 1999 21:02
Subject: A Thought From Carl....


> I received this message today from Mr. Barks....
>
> "So many fans write to say my stories set the pattern for the duck
> universe, I tried to write an ode to the ducks."
>
> ***************************************************
>
> Ode to the Disney Ducks
> By Carl Barks
>
> They ride tall ships to the far away,
> and see the long ago.
> They walk where fabled people trod,
> and Yetis trod the snow.
>
> They meet the folks who live on stars,
> and find them much like us,
> With food and love and happiness the
> things they most discuss.
>
> The world is full of clans and cults
> abuzz as angry bees,
> And Junior Woodchucks snapping jeers
> at Littlest Chickadees.
>
> The ducks show us that part of life
> is to forgive a slight.
> That black eyes given in revenge
> keep hatred burning bright.
>
> So when our walks in sun or shade
> pass graveyards filled by wars,
> It's nice to stop and read of ducks
> whose battles leave no scar.
>
> To read ducks who parody
> our vain attempts at glory,
> They don't exist, but somehow leave
> us glad be bought their story.
>
>
> *************************************
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Stefan
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From thomas at duckburg.dk  Sun Dec  9 00:52:26 2001
From: thomas at duckburg.dk (Thomas Pryds Lauritsen)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 00:52:26 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa video interview
Message-ID: <3C12A7BA.6080800@duckburg.dk>

Hi

About a year ago, F.A. Elliott (I don't know if you're still here or 
not) announced his video interview with Don Rosa to this mailing list. I 
volunteered to record the interview from a VHS video tape to my computer 
in order to upload it to the internet and share it with other Rosa fans. 
Mr. Elliott approved this, but I ended up not doing it after all since 
the file would be extremely large.

Now I *have* digitally recorded the interview, though I decided not to 
in the first place, and I am looking for a place to store it on the web. 
It seems, however, nearly impossible to find a place that will accept 
such a large file and do it for free. Especially since I don't plan to 
make a webpage but simply link to the file from my existing webpage.

I have made the interview in two versions:
"Small": 100.6 mb - 208 x 160 pixels
Large: 679.2 mb - 480 x 360 pixels
(duration: both 105 mins)

My own account at a webhotel doesn't support this much space (and 
increasing the amount costs a fortune) -- So, now my question is; does 
anyone here have the possibility to store the interview (at least the 
small version -- the large one fits best on a cdrom, I guess) at a 
public web server for indefinite time for fans to download?

Hope to hear from some of you. Best wishes,
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
-- 
thomas at duckburg.dk -- www.duckburg.dk



From raptus at stofanet.dk  Sun Dec  9 00:59:19 2001
From: raptus at stofanet.dk (=?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren=20Krarup=20Olesen?=)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:59:19 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa video interview
In-Reply-To: <3C12A7BA.6080800@duckburg.dk>
References: <3C12A7BA.6080800@duckburg.dk>
Message-ID: <01120900591900.09154@raptus>

THOMAS:

On Sunday  9. December 2001 00:52, Thomas Pryds Lauritsen wrote:
> I have made the interview in two versions:
> "Small": 100.6 mb - 208 x 160 pixels
> Large: 679.2 mb - 480 x 360 pixels
> (duration: both 105 mins)
>
> My own account at a webhotel doesn't support this much space (and
> increasing the amount costs a fortune) -- So, now my question is;
> does anyone here have the possibility to store the interview

Why don't you just setup a server on your ADSL account, Thomas? I mean 
lettin' your own PC do the job...

S?ren


From favio31 at caramail.com  Sun Dec  9 01:50:59 2001
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 01:50:59 GMT+1
Subject: Rosa interview
Message-ID: <1007859059020786@caramail.com>

On Sunday 9. December 2001 00:52, Soeren K. Olesen wrote:
>Why don't you just setup a server on your ADSL account, Thomas? I mean 
>lettin' your own PC do the job...

Or "simply" cut the file in 130 parts and put it in 15 Yahoo briefcase accounts ;-)

I can help you for up to 90 Mb myself but not more.

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From tatmeister at home.com  Sat Dec  8 09:51:37 2001
From: tatmeister at home.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 01:51:37 -0700
Subject: Tatting by Daisy Duck
Message-ID: <001701c17fc5$8bde4890$09c70118@cx126537c>

I am trying to locate a reference to the subject of tatting (a type of
lacemaking) for my home page:
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
I have an extensive list of references to tatting that have occurred in
various literature from 1842
to date; many of them have come from hearsay sources that I have followed
for years. There have
reportedly been several Disney tatting references and so far I have only
located one of these from
the 1949 cartoon "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" and I have a video capture of
it on my site at:
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/ select menu Misc/Misc Info/In Print scroll
to 1949 Click on link.

Another sighting states (please take with a grain of salt as character &
date could be wrong) that
a 1960-70's Donald Duck comic book has Daisy Duck making tatting for a
church bazaar. My
question is: has anyone on this list ever seen a Disney comic book that has
any character doing or
referring to tatting and if so, do they have an accurate citation and/or
copy/scan (Walt Disney Inc.
has readily given permission to use items) to share,

Many thanks,
=o)
Dan the Tatmeister



From henri_michaux at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 17:44:18 2001
From: henri_michaux at yahoo.com (Henri Michaux)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 08:44:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Latest Inducks files
Message-ID: <20011209164418.87296.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi

I downloaded the latest Inducks database stories files
(really a great work), from 
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/files/stories/
but it turned out that this version was the same that
I already had, from last summer.

Just wanted to know, is there a new Inducks version in
the making?

  Henri



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From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Sun Dec  9 17:47:45 2001
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:47:45 +0100
Subject: Tatting by Daisy Duck
References: <001701c17fc5$8bde4890$09c70118@cx126537c>
Message-ID: <000601c180d1$51c268a0$28f0fdc1@computer>

Hello!

I don't know about Daisy tatting anything, but Donald is advised by his doctor to try crochet to
relax and sleep in WDC&S 101 (Feb '49, WDC&S album 14). I can't scan right now, though-- there are
several panels to scan-- but will as soon as possible (certainly not this week). Maybe someone else
can.

Hope it helps,

Olivier




From mani at iki.fi  Sun Dec  9 17:58:31 2001
From: mani at iki.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 18:58:31 +0200
Subject: Latest Inducks files
In-Reply-To: <20011209164418.87296.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011209185454.02598ec0@127.0.0.1>

Henri:
>I downloaded the latest Inducks database stories files
>(really a great work), from
>http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/files/stories/
>but it turned out that this version was the same that
>I already had, from last summer.

Yes, those files are outdated. You can get more
up-to-date versions from:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/inducks/files/_stories/

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja



From henri_michaux at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 19:19:33 2001
From: henri_michaux at yahoo.com (Henri Michaux)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:19:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Latest Inducks files
Message-ID: <20011209181933.72797.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>

Ari Seppi wrote:

>Yes, those files are outdated. You can get more
>up-to-date versions from:
>http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/inducks/files/_stories/

The files are all there from 1 day ago. Thank you!

-~ Henri ~-





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From HorizonHse at aol.com  Mon Dec 10 08:20:24 2001
From: HorizonHse at aol.com (HorizonHse@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:20:24 EST
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #761 - 4 msgs - barks paintings
Message-ID: <94.1e686da5.2945bc38@aol.com>

hi,

barks completed at least 3 oil paintings after 1994: 

1. "eureka a goose egg nugget" which became the basis of a porcelain 
sculpture done by giuseppe armani in an edition of 3000. at least 3 copies of 
the sculpture are on ebay currently

2. "merry christmas" which became the basis of a lithograph done by 
dreidreizehn. i think it's still available from them.

3. "heat wave" an oil painting begun much earlier which became the basis of a 
lithograph distributed at one of the disneyana conventions.

most of the color pencil drawings he did for his 96th birthday party were 
reproduced in "barks treasury," the limited edition book also available at 
the party. some of the sketches he did to prepare for the final drawings have 
reached the marketplace. 

i don't know how involved he was in creating the sculptures based on "luck of 
the north," flubbity dubbity duffer," "far out safari" and the rest that were 
on display at his 95th birthday party. any information about these out there?

does anyone know what plans, if any, another rainbow has to release "time out 
for fun," the 10th and last mini-lithograph pictured in "carl barks and the 
disney ducks" and the only one so far not available?

and does anyone know whether or not the project to issue lithographs of some 
of the artwork pictured in "animal quackers" is going forward?

thanks.

regards,

bill


From hanna.ilmonen at profiz.com  Mon Dec 10 13:16:39 2001
From: hanna.ilmonen at profiz.com (hanna.ilmonen@profiz.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:16:39 +0200
Subject: missing picture, kuva ?
Message-ID: <OF34B78152.20BEE9E4-ONC2256B1E.0041BF66@136.4.8>


Hello/Hei

I?m looking for a picture, which has been in donald duck (at least in
50`s).
The picture is a cornucopia. I hope you can help me to find this picture.

Etsin Aku Ankka lehdess? ollutta kuvaa.
Kuva on runsaudensarvi ja se on ollut ainakin 50-luvun Aku Ankassa (ehk?
-52 ?, olikohan se "Aku ja lumimyrsky-tarina", en ole varma.)Toivottavasti
osaisitte auttaa minua l?yt?m??n t?m?n kuvan tai kertoa paikan, josta minun
kannattaisi sit? kysy?.

Best regards,

Hyv?? Joulun odotusta,

Hanna
hanna.ilmonen at profiz.com

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From bi442 at lafn.org  Mon Dec 10 15:55:20 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:55:20 GMT
Subject: Lace & Tatting
Message-ID: <200112101455.fBAEtKF67781@zoon.lafn.org>

Regarding "Lace and tatting" in Disney Comics for Dan "The Tatmeister":

Carl Barks had an "effeminate" Dog-nosed man ask "Assistant Guard" Donald to 
show him to the "Lace and Tatting Collection" in the Duckburg Museum, in his 
story, "The golden Helmet" (in Donald Duck Nr. 408 issued in July, 1952).

I hope some kind and generous DCML member can make the scans for him. Thanks,
Rob Klein


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From gsy at megatel.de  Mon Dec 10 17:27:01 2001
From: gsy at megatel.de (Gerd Syllwasschy)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:27:01 +0100
Subject: barks paintings
References: <200112101102.fBAB2Ce00787@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3C14E255.B9A629B5@megatel.de>

> From: HorizonHse at aol.com
> Date:   Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:20:24 EST
> Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #761 - 4 msgs - barks paintings
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> 
> hi,
> 
> barks completed at least 3 oil paintings after 1994:
> 
> 1. "eureka a goose egg nugget" which became the basis of a porcelain
> sculpture done by giuseppe armani in an edition of 3000. at least 3 copies of
> the sculpture are on ebay currently
> 
> 2. "merry christmas" which became the basis of a lithograph done by
> dreidreizehn. i think it's still available from them.
> 
> 3. "heat wave" an oil painting begun much earlier which became the basis of a
> lithograph distributed at one of the disneyana conventions.

Actually, there are at least 4 additional Duck oil paintings:

1. "Happy Hour", 1995/1996, a Scrooge portrait, unpublished.
2. "I Wonder What My Fortune Cookie Says", 1996/1997, published in a
Dreidreizehn ?lgem?ldekalender, also released as a lithograph.
3. "Old Castle Secret", 1996/1997, published in a Dreidreizehn
?lgem?ldekalender.
4. "Scrooge Smokewriting Dollar Signs", 1997, unpublished.

Plus a handful of Duck watercolors most of which have been published as
lithographs.

> i don't know how involved he was in creating the sculptures based on "luck of
> the north," flubbity dubbity duffer," "far out safari" and the rest that were
> on display at his 95th birthday party. any information about these out there?

I'm not sure, either, to what extent Barks himself was involved in all
those porcelaine and bronze figurines which were released by the "Carl
Barks Studio". It would be interesting to get more information on this
topic.

Greetings,
Gerd

(Is this my first posting on this list? Hi, everybody!)


From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Mon Dec 10 19:12:15 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:12:15 +0100
Subject: Rosa album in Holland
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BCF@l04.research.kpn.com>

Last week, the Dutch album OOM DAGOBERT #66 has come out. Title: "Het
verschrikkelijke oplosmiddel" (The Terrible Solvent).

This is the first publication by "Sanoma Uitgevers b.v.". This is
(apparently) the new name of VNU Tijdschriften: this company was taken over
by Sanoma in Finland. (Only last week I bought a pocket book that was still
published by VNU.)

The cover is a recreation of an American cover, which was originally made
for a completely different story. Maarten Janssens redrew it, and tried to
make it look "as Rosa as possible"...

The album contains reprints of Rosa stories (from DD Extra), plus text
pieces and copies of French illustrations.

In the introductory text, they introduce "Keno Don Rosa", and then talk
about "Don Rosa" for the rest. It occurred to me that the Dutch editor may
actually think that "Don Rosa" is a surname.

On one page, 4 "French" illustrations are shown. Every illustration has a
small text explaining which Barks story it refers to. Unfortunately, the
wrong texts are with the wrong illustrations...

On another page, they reprint (most of) a Picsou poster: the one showing a
gallery of Scrooge+Mickey+Donald drawings. The accompanying text says:
"For the French monthly "Picsou Magazine", Don Rosa made this illustration,
which was added as a poster to the magazine. They wanted to make clear that
Mickey Mouse should actually play a role just as big as the one of the
popular Donald, Uncle Scrooge, and the other Duckburg inhabitants. In Walt
Disney's case, the success started with this mouse, and without Mickey
Donald Duck would probably never have existed..." [Bad translation by me -
HF]

I haven't read such nonsense yet in a Dutch Disney album.

It's debatable if Donald would have existed without Mickey (After all, DD's
debut was without Mickey. Maybe the Silly Symphonies would have become
popular without the MM cartoons).
But apart from that: Don did not draw a single line of this poster for
Picsou! The poster is a compilation of 4 covers that Don did for Gladstone
(for the "WDC in Color" albums). They only contain Mickey because the
Gladstone albums included stories by Donald, Scrooge, and Mickey. The whole
reasoning ("They wanted to make clear") makes no sense at all. I wonder
where they got the idea from. (I'll ask them later this week.)

Anyway, apart from the editorial texts, the album looks beautiful. And it
contains one of my favourite Rosa stories ("A Matter of Some Gravity").

--Harry.


From favio31 at caramail.com  Mon Dec 10 21:04:34 2001
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:04:34 GMT+1
Subject: New Story
Message-ID: <1008014674020709@caramail.com>

Trail Tycoon with art by Carl Barks has been placed in the default album in the photo section.
 Grandma Duck & Uncle Scrooge are at Disneyland riding the Conestoga Wagon attraction that was
 there from 1955 to 1959. This is not explained in the 6 page story, so if you think it is odd that Grandma
 & Scrooge are in the old west together, that's why. Enjoy. 

Story by ZapJones
( Ze Applauded Poster of Joyous, Original, Notable and Extraodinary Stuff )

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans

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From p.castagno at libero.it  Tue Dec 11 09:13:50 2001
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:13:50 +0100
Subject: Disney 100
Message-ID: <3C15C03E.A887D6B2@libero.it>

Hello,

Today I was browsing through the statistics of "Disney in Italia"
the web site where are stored all the informations about Disney
comics in Italy, and I received the great surprise of more than 300
visitors on a single day. Since the average visitors number uses to
be about 50-60 persons, there was something "strange"....

I checked the referral links, and I was surprised to see that almost
all the visitors came from a page of the "Corriere della Sera" web
site, the most important Italian newspaper, that made a special page
for Disney's 100th birthday at the address

  http://www.corriere.it/speciali/disney.shtml

where my page was reported among the Disney-related links.

So.. this is just to thank all the ones who visited my pages! I'm
happy to see my counter growing!!! ;-)

Ciao,

   - Paolo

-- 
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"Ah, si? E li vogliono in oro, carta o decini?"
(Paperina e Paperino in W OS  367-02)


From p.castagno at libero.it  Tue Dec 11 09:17:06 2001
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:17:06 +0100
Subject: It never arrived
Message-ID: <3C15C102.6BEF1544@libero.it>

....because I used the old list e-address, so I repost it. It was
sent originally on 28th Nov...

Hi,

Last week end in Rome was quite interesting for comics-oriented
people like us ("quite" interesting, not "very"!)

There were two exhibitions devoted to comics, and I also had the
pleasure to meet some of our subscribers and other Disney fans:
Harry Fluks (who came from his usual cold Holland to the unusual
cold Rome), Marco Barlotti, Dario Ambrosini, Nicola Raimondi, all
Inducksers and Silverware and Morpheus, members of the Italian PKNA
mailing list.

On Wednesday I met Harry outside his hotel, and we had a dinner
during which we talked a lot about comics, Inducks and Dizni. But
the interesting thing, I think, is our visit to the exhibitions.

On Thursday we first visited Expocartoon (it was easier to reach by
underground) where we had to wait a while for a couple of Italian
ministers to proceed with the official inauguration. There were few
comic-related stands, also from well-known sellers with interesting
things to see (and buy). But the greater part of the exhibition was
related to other things than comics: car stereo, military aviation,
toys, car models, pay-per-view channels, shooting at target game,
etc.....

After a quick look, we left for Romics, where, for the first time
since the first Expocartoon, there was no one waiting to buy
tickets! 

The exhibition space was very little if compared to the space of the
previous editions of Expocartoon, but there were also interesting
things, such as the meeting about comics & web that took place on
Sunday.

Too bad I lost my wish-list, for the THIRD time in the last three
exhibitions!!! I'll have to get used to take a spare copy of it with
me! So I couldn't buy any Topolino.

On the afternoon and evening me and Harry spent some time browsing
through my collection, and choose few of my doubles... too bad he
isn't interested in "Almanacco Topolino": I have some copies in very
bad conditions reprinting very bad stories, but they take a lot of
space! ;-)

While Friday I had to go back to work, Saturday I met Harry again
and we spend some interesting hours in looking the Dizni source
code, talking about codes for multi-part stories, and other maniacal
aspects of our Inducksers activities.

On sunday I met the Italian part of the prevoius names list,
starting from a meeting with some of the webmasters from the Italian
web fanzines about comics (not only Disney) where the Inducks was
invited thanks to the precious help of Andrea Materia, one of the
organizators in Romics. 

Then, after spending few hours looking for some Topolino issues, I,
Marc and Dario headed once again to Expocartoon, where I find an
"Albo d'oro" reprinting a (more or less) butchered version of ZM
43-11-21, the only MM continuity I was missing!

Well, I surely must be missing something, but that's the main part
of this long and interesting week end (interesting mainly because of
meeting so many friends!!!)

Ciao,

  - Paolo

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From donaldault at pop.net  Tue Dec 11 13:32:15 2001
From: donaldault at pop.net (Donald D. Ault)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:32:15 -0500
Subject: barks paintings
References: <200112111102.fBBB27r27881@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <002c01c1823f$df028780$3c0d273f@BARKS>

A message:

> From: HorizonHse at aol.com
> Date:   Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:20:24 EST

refers to a Barks painting:

4. "Scrooge Smokewriting Dollar Signs", 1997, unpublished.

Here's a transcription of the interview comments made by Barks about this
painting order before he had completed it. The interview was conducted by my
wife Lynda and me (and recorded on audio and video) on June 14, 1997. I
never knew whether or not he did, in fact, complete the painting. Apparently
he did. I would love to see it in some form.

Here's the quotation from Barks:

I have an order from some German to paint a picture of one of the old comic
book covers. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do a good job on it.
Because as I've grown older my hand is shaky, and my eyesight is getting so
bad from macular degeneration, that I can't focus on things, so that
painting a picture now I have to paint so close to it and have plenty of
rest for my hand, and to paint all that stuff with a limp little water color
brush-it's a very fine quality of sable hair, but it is limp. I don't know
whether I'm going to be able to do it, but I will try to get this painting
done, and that I believe will be the last one I ever do-painting. But these
colored pencils, I can do those because you have to bear down so hard on
those pencils to get the pigment to come off on the paper that the shaking
is all taken care of because it's just ground into the surface of the paper
there where it can't shake.

It [the painting] was the one of where Uncle Scrooge had a blanket and he
had a little fire and was sending up smoke signals of dollar signs. And this
guy wanted something added-it was a helicopter with Flintheart Glomgold in
it. I can't imagine what that purpose was, but something this guy imagines
is worth a lot of money.

End of Barks quotation.

This will be included in my edited chronological collection of Barks
interviews entitled "Carl Barks: Conversations," to be published by the
University Press of Mississippi.

Donald Ault
Professor of English
University of Florida
http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/




From Armando.Botto at elsag.it  Tue Dec 11 15:11:38 2001
From: Armando.Botto at elsag.it (Botto Armando)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:11:38 +0100
Subject: barks paintings
Message-ID: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E201654B88@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>

Donald Ault wrote:
> A message:
> > From: HorizonHse at aol.com
> refers to a Barks painting:
> 4. "Scrooge Smokewriting Dollar Signs", 1997, unpublished.
[...]

Thanks for the interesting info!

> This will be included in my edited chronological collection of Barks
> interviews entitled "Carl Barks: Conversations," to be published by the
> University Press of Mississippi.

Is there a foreseen date of publication for that collection ?

Thanks,
Armando


From kenneth.levanen at arcada.fi  Tue Dec 11 17:13:47 2001
From: kenneth.levanen at arcada.fi (Kenda)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:13:47 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Don Rosa article in Hufvudstadsbladet
In-Reply-To: <200112111102.fBBB2Sr27962@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0112111802450.21549-100000@penti.sit.fi>

Hi!

There was an article about Don Rosa in todays Hufvudstadsbladet, a daily
newspaper in swedish in Finland (mostly read by swedish speaking Finns).

I have not translated the article (sorry), but I put a scan of it on the
web for those who understand a bit swedish...

http://www.sit.fi/~levanenk/donrosa/hbl_11dec2001.jpg
(230 kb)

If someone ells has time to translate the article, please feel free to do
so.

-kenda-
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From anders_sivebaek at nns.dk  Tue Dec 11 18:35:26 2001
From: anders_sivebaek at nns.dk (Anders Christian=?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Siveb=BEk?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:35:26 +0000
Subject: Si-yuh-lent  Niiiight!
Message-ID: <fc.0064b568002962840064b56800296284.296296@nns.dk>

Hi

I hope some of you have read Barks' old story Silent Night-story (The
unpublished one from the late 40'es)
It's been published sometimes since, eg. in the Barks Libraries, but
without the first halfpage which Barks sold to a fan sometime. 
Listmember Rob Klein later talked with Barks and reconstructed a first
half page with help from typical start panels. 
Another ducthman traced that halfpage - and like that it was published in
the ducth Donald Duck Weekblad some years ago, AFAIK. 
Now, today I got the german Micky Maus, tomorrow I'll get the dansih AA
and these contain the same story, but with another first halfpage. D
2001-068 (no credits in the credit-line which only says Barks) Who made
this, why, and so on are the questions I'd like some here to answer -
maybe David knows?

Wasn't Rob's/the other guy's version fitting - is this new version maybe
closer to the origonal lost panels?

Are we going to see more unpublished stories here soon, such as the
Somewhere in Nowhere story?


Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist



From timoro at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 17:51:39 2001
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:51:39 +0200
Subject: Si-yuh-lent Niiiight!
Message-ID: <F557gyHdABNz3hJyiKm00013463@hotmail.com>

>Now, today I got the german Micky Maus, tomorrow I'll get the dansih AA

The very same story was published in Finnish Aku Ankka's 50th anniversary 
special number. With half page drawn by Daan Jippes.
It would be very interesting to see Rob's version of this half page. Could 
it possible to have a scan somewhere? Rob??

timo

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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Tue Dec 11 18:03:26 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:03:26 +0100
Subject: See-yilent Nee-yight (RE: Si-yuh-lent  Niiiight)
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BE5@l04.research.kpn.com>

Anders:

> I hope some of you have read Barks' old story Silent Night-story (The
> unpublished one from the late 40'es)
> It's been published sometimes since, eg. in the Barks Libraries, but
> without the first halfpage which Barks sold to a fan sometime. 
> Listmember Rob Klein later talked with Barks and reconstructed a first
> half page with help from typical start panels. 
> Another ducthman traced that halfpage

Michel Nadorp. Not traced, he *drew* a half page.

> - and like that it was published in
> the ducth Donald Duck Weekblad some years ago, AFAIK. 

1986.

> D 2001-068 (no credits in the credit-line which only says 
> Barks)

Script: David Gerstein
Art: Daan Jippes

> Wasn't Rob's/the other guy's version fitting

I think you must agree that this Gerstein/Jippes version is gorgeous! It
looks much better than the Klein/Nadorp version. It is also probably closer
to the original (e.g. it has no title, and it has dialogue in the first
panel).

On the other hand, this new version is still based on Rob Klein's findings.
But this time worked out with the knowledge of today (in stead of decades
ago), and with an excellent artist (nearly no-one can beat Jippes).

--Harry.
(I'm Dutch, not ducth)


From abeenget at frisurf.no  Tue Dec 11 19:06:07 2001
From: abeenget at frisurf.no (Anita B Og Erlend V Enget)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:06:07 +0100
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
Message-ID: <200112111806.TAA20990@mail49.fg.online.no>

On newsstands today here in Norway Donald Duck & Co # 50/2001 brought us a
brand new Carl Barks story. The vault of Unca Carl someway never ran empty,
and this one is titled "Donald Duck in Christmas Mood" (2001-068). The
ten-pager is written by Barks, and drawn in company with the also talented
Daan Jippes. What is drawn by who is hard to say. I miss a "story behind
the story", so to say. Can anyone tell when the story was written and what
is drawn by Barks and Jippes?

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to all of ya!

Erlend, Norway






From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 19:30:16 2001
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:30:16 +0100
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
References: <200112111806.TAA20990@mail49.fg.online.no>
Message-ID: <OE28zozbTlnp252Ue7K000137ab@hotmail.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita B Og Erlend V Enget" <abeenget at frisurf.no>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 11 december 2001 19:06
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!


> On newsstands today here in Norway Donald Duck & Co # 50/2001 brought us a
> brand new Carl Barks story. The vault of Unca Carl someway never ran
empty,
> and this one is titled "Donald Duck in Christmas Mood" (2001-068). The
> ten-pager is written by Barks, and drawn in company with the also talented
> Daan Jippes. What is drawn by who[m] is hard to say. I miss a "story
behind
> the story", so to say. Can anyone tell when the story was written and what
> is drawn by Barks and Jippes?

This is *not* a brand new story, it is from 1945! The 1st half page was
lost, and replaced by a new half page made by David Gerstein and Daan
Jippes. The rest is made by Barks alone. The code (D 2001-068) only refers
to the first half page, not to the rest of the story. The Swedish title is
"Stilla natt?" and the English one is "Silent Night." Read some of the other
DCML mails sent earlier today for further information.

On a side note: Did you receive the issue as late as today? Here in Sweden
it has been available since Friday...

Stefan


From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Tue Dec 11 20:52:42 2001
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:52:42 +0100
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
In-Reply-To: <OE28zozbTlnp252Ue7K000137ab@hotmail.com>
References: <200112111806.TAA20990@mail49.fg.online.no>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20011211204801.009f2dd0@popw.c2i.net>

Stefan Person wrote:
 >> On newsstands today here in Norway Donald Duck & Co # 50/2001 brought us a
 >> brand new Carl Barks story.

It's only "new" in Norway..... it's been published elsewere before.
(have a look at http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/story.php/0/CS+WDC++64 )

 >On a side note: Did you receive the issue as late as today? Here in Sweden
 >it has been available since Friday...

The Norwegian Donald Duck is published
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From anders_sivebaek at nns.dk  Wed Dec 12 01:29:17 2001
From: anders_sivebaek at nns.dk (Anders Christian=?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Siveb=BEk?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:29:17 +0000
Subject: Re(2): Si-yuh-lent Niiiight!
In-Reply-To: <F557gyHdABNz3hJyiKm00013463@hotmail.com>
References: <F557gyHdABNz3hJyiKm00013463@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc.0064b568002967463b9aca00fe7891ba.29674b@nns.dk>

Hi all
>
>The very same story was published in Finnish Aku Ankka's 50th anniversary 
>special number. With half page drawn by Daan Jippes.
Thanks for this info - and thanks to Janne I'm getting it. 
>
>It would be very interesting to see Rob's version of this half page.
>Could 
>it possible to have a scan somewhere? Rob??
Should Rob not have a scanner, I do, and have the half-page, so I'd be
ahppy
to make a scan available - but on friday, as it's at home. 


Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist



From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Wed Dec 12 09:37:45 2001
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:37:45 +0200
Subject: MIKY MAOUS et al
References: <200112111102.fBBB2Sr27962@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001d01c182e8$46b86e00$6c2ddbc2@anatolia.edu.gr>

Fellow Quackeroos:

Here's what hit the stands last week:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1846, November 30, 2001
a) Mickey Mouse in "Il vortice imperiale", from "Topolino" #2265, 1999 (42
pages). Script: Rudy Salvagnini; Art: Graziano Barbaro
b) The Beagle Boys in "The Fake Valet", WBB #36 (16 pages). Script: Unknown;
Art: Kay Wright
c) Donald Duck in "Orchids in the Snow", S-75165 (11 pages). Script & Art:
The Disney Studio


2) MINNI #63, December 2001
a) Minni Mouse in "Il mistero del rubino rubato", from "Minni" #47, 1997 (31
pages). Script: Giorgio Pezzin; Art: Alessandro Gottardo
b) Clarabell Cow in "Gli anni mugganti di Clrabella--Il mago 'ladro'", from
"Minni" #78, 1999 (27 pages). Script: Francois Corteggiani; Art: Giorgio
Cavazzano


3) MEGALO MIKY #412, December 2001
a) Bernard and Bianca in "Australian Adventure", comic-book adaptation of
the Disney animated cartoon (46 pages). Script: William Rotchlear (sp?);
Art: Rubin Torreiro, Robert Batt, Carlos Paura, Raul Barbiro, Carlos
Valenti, Hector Saavendra (sp?)
b) Mickey Mouse in "Il carico a 24 carati", S-74265 (printed in AT #233,
1976), 12 pages. Script: Unknown; Art: Marco Rota
c) Uncle Scrooge in "The Persistent Hic-Ups", 9 pages. Story code and
creators unknown (the only code I see is "MO")
d) Donald Duck in "The Mysterious Voice", 5 pages. Story code and creators
unknown. (S-coded)


'Til next week,

Archontis


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Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 10:27:48 2001
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:27:48 +0100
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
Message-ID: <F302NqFJ3sl3xbYiMCI00000aee@hotmail.com>

>From: Vidar Svendsen <vidar-svendsen at c2i.net>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
>Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:52:42 +0100

> >On a side note: Did you receive the issue as late as today? Here in 
>Sweden
> >it has been available since Friday...
>
>The Norwegian Donald Duck is published

Oh, so it's *published*? Which magazine is not? Er... What do you mean?

Stefan

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From c_seiten at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 13:48:41 2001
From: c_seiten at hotmail.com (Claudio Eckert)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:48:41 +0100
Subject: DCML Archives
Message-ID: <F259zP6s0evsMvrOREZ00000ac6@hotmail.com>

Hello!
I need some help with the DMCL-archives. There are three incarnations of the 
mailing list:

- the first: up to and including November 1995
- the second incarnation, which is currently not available.
- the third: the current archives from January 2000 up to now (plus a few 
"single" month of 1999 etc.)

Perhaps someone has a "private collection" of digests and is willing to 
provide access to the missing second incarnation? (That would be december 
1995 to (about) december 1999 or what else you have. Every bit will be okay)

Or is there any other way to receive the information? It's needed for a 
research I'm doing for my (future-)webpage on Duck comics.

thank you!
Claudio


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From anders_sivebaek at nns.dk  Wed Dec 12 13:58:32 2001
From: anders_sivebaek at nns.dk (Anders Christian=?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Siveb=BEk?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:58:32 +0000
Subject: Re 765: Silent
In-Reply-To: <200112121103.fBCB3Lr25014@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200112121103.fBCB3Lr25014@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <fc.0064b568002970323b9aca0016e3a63b.29707e@nns.dk>

Hi
>

HARRY
>
>Michel Nadorp. Not traced, he *drew* a half page.
Sorry about that. 
What did Klein do then - they are both credited for the half page, 
in the Inducks. 
>
>> D 2001-068 (no credits in the credit-line which only says 
>> Barks)
>
>Script: David Gerstein
>Art: Daan Jippes
Thanks. 

>> Wasn't Rob's/the other guy's version fitting
>
>I think you must agree that this Gerstein/Jippes version is gorgeous! It
>looks much better than the Klein/Nadorp version. 
I don't have the latter with me, so i can't compare right now. 

>It is also probably closer
>to the original (e.g. it has no title, and it has dialogue in the first
>panel).
I thoyght about the possiblity of the fan who originally bought the
half-page
having showed it to either one of the makers? - I agree that it looks
great. 
The 10-pagers had no title at that time - oops, I guess I don't know 
my Barks as good as I should at this time... 

>On the other hand, this new version is still based on Rob Klein's
>findings.
>But this time worked out with the knowledge of today (in stead of decades
>ago), and with an excellent artist (nearly no-one can beat Jippes).
You're entitled to have that opinion :-)
>
>--Harry.
>(I'm Dutch, not ducth)
Sorry, I never did understand that about the nationalities/languages being
in capital
in english, so that's why i can't remember it well...

About the code - what code would the story have had - and did another
story get that?
instead of the new D-code what code do you think the 9 ? original pages
should have had. I don't know myself, i have alternative. In inducks i'ts
called CS WDC 60, right? - to show that it was originally WDC 60 but never
published. 

I do hope the danish publisher has been reasonable enough to call it Glade
Jul, as that's our version of Silent night/Stlle nacht (Gruber). Is it a
misatke to call it Stilla nat in swedish -do you sing that at Christmas,
or do you sing Glada jul?

Stefan: 
We do know about this publication system in Scandinavia, the same issues
comes out but some days apart, first in sweden, on friday (though supposed
to be on stands following monday?), then in Norway on tuesday and in
denmark on thursday. I was annoyed that i didn't get my subscriber's issue
today, but I'll live. 

The danish weekly isn't officially published untill tomorrow - it's
possible that some shops have it on stands now, but it's not something the
companies like, that the sellers put their mag's on the stands before
publication date. It can cause you to be erased of the seller's list, if i
understood right. 

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist



From favio31 at caramail.com  Wed Dec 12 14:56:49 2001
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:56:49 GMT+1
Subject: DCML Archives
Message-ID: <1008165409031841@caramail.com>

Hey Claudio

>>Perhaps someone has a "private collection" of digests and is willing to 
>>provide access to the missing second incarnation? (That would be december 
>>1995 to (about) december 1999 or what else you have. Every bit will be okay)

I'm also looking for these. If anyone has them, can this person mail me so
that I can put it on my web server?

 Thanks
~~ Favio ~~

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From mani at iki.fi  Wed Dec 12 20:26:13 2001
From: mani at iki.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:26:13 +0200
Subject: DCML Archives
In-Reply-To: <F259zP6s0evsMvrOREZ00000ac6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011212211554.021840e0@127.0.0.1>

Claudio:
>Perhaps someone has a "private collection" of digests and is willing to 
>provide access to the missing second incarnation? (That would be december 
>1995 to (about) december 1999 or what else you have. Every bit will be okay)
>
>Or is there any other way to receive the information?

Yes, there is.

Try searching http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search
with "fa.disney-comics" on the newsgroup-field.

-- 
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja



From favio31 at caramail.com  Wed Dec 12 21:04:48 2001
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:04:48 GMT+1
Subject: DCML archives
Message-ID: <1008187488019078@caramail.com>

>>Or is there any other way to receive the information?
>Yes, there is.
>Try searching http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search
>with "fa.disney-comics" on the newsgroup-field.

It does not contain all messages, only sopme of them. Almost nothing from 1997 for instance.
Also, when people click on "post a message" it will only be visible on Google ...

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From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Wed Dec 12 20:40:38 2001
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:40:38 +0100
Subject: New Barks story in "Donald Duck & Co" today!
In-Reply-To: <F302NqFJ3sl3xbYiMCI00000aee@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20011212204014.00a15140@popw.c2i.net>

>> >On a side note: Did you receive the issue as late as today? Here in Sweden
>> >it has been available since Friday...
>>
>>The Norwegian Donald Duck is published
>
>Oh, so it's *published*? Which magazine is not? Er... What do you mean?

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From harryklein at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 23:24:57 2001
From: harryklein at hotmail.com (Olaf Solstrand)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:24:57 +0100
Subject: My story
Message-ID: <F1811fR8LhUGBOSfmC400001945@hotmail.com>

When Egmont paid me for my story, the bank sent me a letter. On that letter 
it was a reference-number which looked very much like a story code. If it 
WAS the story code, I can now tell you the storycode of my first story. It 
is D 2001-013.

-olaf-

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From scraill at methven.net  Thu Dec 13 04:24:48 2001
From: scraill at methven.net (Shaun Craill)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:24:48 +1300
Subject: why do H,L,D say sentences `together'? 
Message-ID: <6F9D362C1930D3119D8F0090274DFE5D465221@mthntapp.methven.net>

Nils Lid Hjort asked the following about HD&L:
	>>>Are there Barks stories, or other Duck stories, where one of the
three spends significant amounts of time apart from the other two? 
One of my favourite examples of this is the Barks story where U$ and the
boys end up on an island where a scientist is trying to invent a ray that
was supposed to deodorise cabbage, but turned people to stone instead.  Not
only do the nephews spend time apart but one of them gets vitrified!
I think this is a great example of a suspense technique used by Barks; we
are used to seeing the 3 nephews together, so when one is separated by
events there is added tension and drama until they are reunited.  Add in
Beagle Boys and the need to rescue Donald and the nephew from the stone ray
and you get a really gripping plot.
Shaun


From bi442 at lafn.org  Thu Dec 13 05:39:38 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:39:38 GMT
Subject: Silent Night
Message-ID: <200112130439.fBD4dbF60633@zoon.lafn.org>

Regarding the new first half page of Barks' rejected 1945 Christmas story:
I'm very curious to see Daan Jippes drawing (and his and David G.'s new layout 
and dialogue.  I'm glad that Daan drew it, as in addition to being my favourite 
artist, I believe he is the best at mimicing Barks' style throughout the 
various eras and style changes. Yes Anders, - please make a scan of my original 
available.  I DO have a scanner, but don't know how (nor have time) to make it 
available on a website. I would love to get a copy of a German, Scandinavian or 
Finnish issue.  

Anders reference to the timing of my conversation with Carl Barks regarding 
what he placed on that half page may have been misleading.  It took place in 
1969 (long before the 9 1/2 pages were published by Another Rainbow). I drew my 
version in 1985. Michel Nadorp drew his final version in 1986. I first started 
talking to Carl about his unpublished work in 1966. Each of the complete 
unpublished stories, and several-page unpublished story segments popped up in 
subsequent conversations throughout 1966-1973 (when I had significant contact 
with him). I did ask him some of the same questions again years later, and by 
then, he definately remembered less details. 

Rob Klein



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From bi442 at lafn.org  Thu Dec 13 08:04:54 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:04:54 GMT
Subject: Barks' Silent Night
Message-ID: <200112130704.fBD74sF75910@zoon.lafn.org>

Regarding Carl Barks' original first 1/2 page of his 1945 Christmas story 
(originally slated for Walt Disney's Comics and Stories Jan. 1946 issue:

i believe that he did NOT "SELL" it to a fan.  He told me in 1966, that he GAVE 
it to an acquaintence "many years ago". I assume that event occured during the 
late 1940s, not so very long after the rejected story art was returned to him.

Rob
Klein

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From pyas at swipnet.se  Thu Dec 13 12:37:58 2001
From: pyas at swipnet.se (Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Di=F6s?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:37:58 +0100
Subject: Silent Night
In-Reply-To: <200112131101.fBDB1Gr08454@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011213121946.01fe59b0@pop3.norton.antivirus>

Anders Christian:

>I do hope the danish publisher has been reasonable enough to call it Glade
>Jul, as that's our version of Silent night/Stlle nacht (Gruber). Is it a
>misatke to call it Stilla nat in swedish -do you sing that at Christmas,
>or do you sing Glada jul?

Yes, very much do we sing "Stilla natt, heliga natt", as in "Stille Nacht, 
heilige Nacht". It works well and is one of the favorite Xmas songs in our 
country, too. For the comics title, we chose (OK, I chose) to add a 
question mark to the title; so the story is called "Stilla natt?".

If it happens to be called something else than "Glade jul" in Denmark (as I 
think was the case in Norway), I'm not sure that's really is a mistake. 
There is a distinct point that the night is everything but silent during 
the course of this story. "Glade jul" ("Happy Christmas") may be a good 
text for the carol, but doesn't convey quite the same irony here. Of 
course, Donald might sing it in the story, but in my opinion, another title 
could very well be picked for the story itself. As also was pointed out, it 
has no original title. When talking about it with my friends, I seem to 
remember that we used to call it "Christmas Carols".


And Rob:

>i believe that he did NOT "SELL" it to a fan.  He told me in 1966, that he 
>GAVE
>it to an acquaintence "many years ago". I assume that event occured during 
>the
>late 1940s, not so very long after the rejected story art was returned to him.

Obviously, I suppose, it has been impossible during all these years to find 
out who that acquaintance was, and what might have happened to the drawing? 
I'm sure every fan has been wondering about that for years... but do you 
recall what Barks said about it? Maybe he forgot who the person was, or 
didn't want to tell?



Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden



From malines24 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 13 12:58:23 2001
From: malines24 at hotmail.com (Simo Malinen)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:58:23 +0200
Subject: Silent Night
Message-ID: <F1558NpqhNPPzQT456U0000126e@hotmail.com>

ANDERS:
About the code - what code would the story have had - and did another
story get that?
instead of the new D-code what code do you think the 9 ½ original pages
should have had. I don't know myself, i have alternative. In inducks i'ts
called CS WDC 60, right? - to show that it was originally WDC 60 but never
published.


Almost, it's CS WDC  64.

WDC 60 came out in September 1945 - so no x-mas stories in that issue.
According the Inducks Barks made the Silent Night story between the stories 
published in WDC 63 and WDC 64 so most likely it should have been in WDC 64 
(January 1946).

At that time in the 1940's Barks' stories usually were published in the same 
order they were drawn (WDC stories). Later years the order altered.

E.g. looks like 24 pager stories in US 68 - US 70 were published in 
disorder: Barks draw The Doom Diamond (US 70) in March, Hall of the Mermaid 
Queen (US 68) in April, and The Cattle King (US 69) in May 1966. No wonder 
why in the last panel of The Cattle King story ducks are driving towars the 
sunset(?).

You can find lots of dates(calendar values) from the Inducks/COA.


- Simo


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From dmarkstein at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 13 13:07:06 2001
From: dmarkstein at earthlink.net (Donald Markstein)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 05:07:06 -0700
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #766 - 10 msgs
References: <200112131101.fBDB17r08436@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <004d01c183cf$374ac340$2096fea9@home>

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>    7. My story (Olaf Solstrand)
>    8. RE: why do H,L,D say sentences `together'? (Shaun Craill)
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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Dec 13 20:20:18 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:20:18 +0100
Subject: DCML Archives
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BF5@l04.research.kpn.com>

> From: Claudio Eckert [mailto:c_seiten at hotmail.com]
> Sent: woensdag 12 december 2001 13:49

> There are three incarnations of the mailing list:
> 
> - the first: up to and including November 1995
> - the second incarnation, which is currently not available.

Maybe Per has them stored somewhere, but I can't find them either.

> - the third: the current archives from January 2000 up to now 

> Perhaps someone has a "private collection" of digests and is 
> willing to 
> provide access to the missing second incarnation?

Sure. I just sent my archive to Favio.

--Harry.


From dghez at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 13 20:27:56 2001
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:27:56 +0100
Subject: Brazilian artwork on ebay
Message-ID: <OE73gwCyCnspQZxkcHw00001713@hotmail.com>

Hi,

Beginning around December 21, the Disney Auctions site (www.ebay.disney.com)
should start selling some great original artwork from Brazil.

What will be sold will be full stories and the reserve prices should be
quite reasonable.

Some of the stories sold will be as old as 30 years. There will be some
Super Goofy, some Madam Mim, some Magica, some Mickey, Donald, Scrooge,...
stories. The stories I have selected are among the best within the material
I had access to in Brazil.

No Ze Carioca for this first sale yet but it might come soon.

Didier


From favio31 at caramail.com  Thu Dec 13 20:42:49 2001
From: favio31 at caramail.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:42:49 GMT+1
Subject: Disney art
Message-ID: <1008272569022061@caramail.com>

Didier Ghez wrote:

>Beginning around December 21, the Disney Auctions site (www.ebay.disney.com)
>should start selling some great original artwork from Brazil.

To think that Disney continuasly refused to give its original art work to the
artists (as any other comics publisher does), and then all of a sudden decides to sell
them just make me sick.

I'll add that it's a known fact that at the time when Disney Italia took over 
Mondadori, lots (really **lots** ) of original artwork disappeared. 

 Favio


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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Thu Dec 13 21:05:37 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:05:37 +0100
Subject: Anders: Silent
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0BF7@l04.research.kpn.com>

> From: Anders Christian Siveb?k [mailto:anders_sivebaek at nns.dk]
> Sent: woensdag 12 december 2001 13:59

> > Michel Nadorp. Not traced, he *drew* a half page.
> What did Klein do then - they are both credited for the half page, 
> in the Inducks.

Klein did draw a version. Nadorp redrew Klein's drawings.

> > (I'm Dutch, not ducth)
> Sorry, I never did understand that about the 
> nationalities/languages being
> in capital in english, so that's why i can't remember it well...

I wasn't referring to capitals; I was referring to the spelling "ducth"
(twice) in your original letter.

> About the code - what code would the story have had

Stories had no codes in the 1940s. So for Inducks we make them up.

--Harry.


From komixgreekpage at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 14 12:55:12 2001
From: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:55:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Problem with DCML
Message-ID: <20011214115512.56931.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all

The last few days I can't refresh the DCML Archives
pages. It's like the page never been receiving posts
for 2 weeks now. The last post I can read is my "Komix
Column" post (Saturday 1 Dec 2001 07:40:13 -0800 (PST)
Is anything I can do? I'm not used to read the post
through the DCML Digests.
Please help me
Best Wishes and Happy Holidays



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From PFerreira at acj.pt  Fri Dec 14 12:19:52 2001
From: PFerreira at acj.pt (Paulo Ferreira)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:19:52 -0000
Subject: Portuguese names
Message-ID: <7685A7EB7236D511AE650008C7842F5833C9B9@CLEXCHAS>

Hello and help!

I'm trying to find the portuguese/brazilian names of the following
characters: "Olaf the Blue", "Azure Blue" and "Sylvester J. Sharkey". They
all appear, more recently, in "The Lost Charts of Columbus".
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From dghez at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 14 14:13:14 2001
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:13:14 +0100
Subject: Disney artwork from Brazil
Message-ID: <OE68mNN79xavjrRZ1Ub00001fe7@hotmail.com>

Thierry,

Where in my mail do I mention that this artwork is coming directly from the
Disney archives or the Abril archives ?

Some of the art and collectibles being sold on Disney Auctions comes from
the collections of private individuals (eg : the Lotman Collection).

The seller does not want us to reveal his identity but your answer is unfair
as it is based on way too few elements.

Didier

>To think that Disney continuasly refused to give its >original art work to
the
>artists (as any other comics publisher does), and then all >of a sudden
decides to sell
>them just make me sick.

>I'll add that it's a known fact that at the time when >Disney Italia took
over
>Mondadori, lots (really **lots** ) of original artwork >disappeared.

 Favio




From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Fri Dec 14 15:54:01 2001
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:54:01 +0200
Subject: MIKY MAOUS & DONALD
References: <200112141103.fBEB3JI08973@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <004801c184af$2b71b520$6c2ddbc2@anatolia.edu.gr>

Fellow Quackeroos:

Another week of Greek Disney comics:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1847, December 7, 2001 (a 196-page Walt Disney special
Centennial issue)
a) Mickey Mouse in "Topolino 30 anni dopo", from "Topolino" #2249, 1999 (30
pages). Script: Angelo Palmas; Art: Luigi Piras
b) Mickey Mouse in "Le rane saltatrici", from "Topolino" #1468, 1984 (57
pages in 2 parts). Script & art: Romano Scarpa (my note: this story is a
"sequel" to "La regina d' Africa", Topolino Piu #6, 1983, where Queen
Zenobia II made her first appearance).
c) Mickey Mouse in "Mio fratello Mortimer", from "Topolino" #2262, 1999 (33
pages). Script: Angelo Palmas; Art: Claudio Sciarrone
d) Mickey Mouse in "L' agghiacciante idrominaccia", from "Topolino" #2371,
2001 (27 pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Paolo Mottura


2) DONALD #49, December 2001 (my note: definitely an above average issue)
a) Donald Duck in "Il tesoro dal passato...presente", from "Paperino Mese"
#192, 1996 (35 pages). Script: Sergio Tulipano; Art: Lucio Leoni & Emanuela
Negrin
b) Donald Duck in "Il tesoro dal nulla", from "Paperino Mese" #192, 1996 (32
pages). Script: Ezio Borciani; Art: Lucio Leoni & Emanuela Negrin
c) Donald & Daisy in "The Marriages of Grandma Duck", from "Minni" #80, 1999
(19 pages). Script: Nino Russo; Art: Marco Mazzarello.


'Til next week,

Archontis


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From bi442 at lafn.org  Fri Dec 14 16:22:25 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:22:25 GMT
Subject: Silent Night
Message-ID: <200112141522.fBEFMPF51772@zoon.lafn.org>

Thanks so much David and A.C. for sending me scans of the new "Silent Night" 
first 1/2 page.  They are FANTASTIC!!!  Daan even outdid himself!  His Donald 
on the last panel and the Nephews could not be seen as not Barks, even by 
Barks, himself! The splashpanel is great! Only the Donald sitting in his chair 
has Daan's own distinctive style overshadowing that of Barks (and most people 
probably don't have a problem with that. I think michel Nadorp is a good 
artist, and was very happy with the job he did. But, I certainly would have 
preferred in 1986, that Daan would have done the final artwork then. David, you 
did a fine job on the script.  In 1985, I should have put more of my own 
(educated) guesswork into dialogue in those panels.  Carl only told me 
the "essence" of what was in the panels.  He only told me that Donald was 
sitting is his large easy chair, reading a book about the "Good Old Days", and 
saying something like "Great Stuff! Great Stuff!".  I dared not guess at what 
else he said, so added nothing else.  Had i thought more deeply about it; I 
would have surmised, based on Barks' wont, that the story idea probably came to 
him from his disgust with the overcommercialism of Christmas. He probably 
wanted to play Donald's "discovery" of that idea off against the desires of the 
Nephews for gifts. As is Donald's character, he carries the idea too far in his 
actions.  Barks used the "Great Stuff! Great Stuff! line in WDC 32, - so he 
wouldn't have used it again, as is. He might have had some wording that 
described his discovery that the old fashioned ways of celebrating Christmas 
were "true". Then, he would have seen the Boys coveting gifts, and shown his 
disgust. And then, he would have started pacing, thinking that the old 
fashioned way is best (as we have from him in the lower portion of the page.

The story was, indeed slated for WDC 64, January 1946 (as seen in the payment 
records).  Carl told me nothing regarding the name or identity of the person 
whom he gave the drawing. It is clear that he did not remember in 1966, or his 
pal, Malcom Willits would have tried to track that person down; and we would 
have the complete artwork, today. Malcom tracked down the many scattered pieces 
of Barks' unpublished artwork.

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From abeenget at frisurf.no  Fri Dec 14 18:00:18 2001
From: abeenget at frisurf.no (Anita B Og Erlend V Enget)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:00:18 +0100
Subject: "Silent Night" by Barks
Message-ID: <200112141700.SAA23506@mail49.fg.online.no>

Hi!

"Silent Night" was after all *not* a new Barks story!!! Thank you for the
very interesting and educational information on this story! 
In the 100 pp Donald Duck & Co. #49/2001 (celebrating Disne'y Centennial
Day) the story was promoted as "NEW STORY BY BARKS!" and "published for the
first time in Norway". Neither in this add, nor in #50, Egmont said
*anything* about this being a 55 years old story! 

To be hounest, I read a "brand new" story by Barks, probably scetched by
him, and drawn by the great Barks imitator Jippes! I thought it was done a
year or so ago, as Barks did do a *new* story, published in 1995, that
William vanHorn had drawn.

Had Gladstone still had their licence in the US, putting out this goodie to
their readers... It'd definitely be accompanied by background information.

Any Egmont-person reading this?

Erlend Vold Enget, Norway 



From abeenget at frisurf.no  Fri Dec 14 17:59:41 2001
From: abeenget at frisurf.no (Anita B Og Erlend V Enget)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:59:41 +0100
Subject: "Silent Night" by Barks
Message-ID: <200112141659.RAA18954@mail44.fg.online.no>

Hi!

"Silent Night" was after all *not* a new Barks story!!! Thank you for the
very interesting and educational information on this story! 
In the 100 pp Donald Duck & Co. #49/2001 (celebrating Disne'y Centennial
Day) the story was promoted as "NEW STORY BY BARKS!" and "published for the
first time in Norway". Neither in this add, nor in #50, Egmont said
*anything* about this being a 55 years old story! 

To be hounest, I read a "brand new" story by Barks, probably scetched by
him, and drawn by the great Barks imitator Jippes! I thought it was done a
year or so ago, as Barks did do a *new* story, published in 1995, that
William vanHorn had drawn.

Had Gladstone still had their licence in the US, putting out this goodie to
their readers... It'd definitely be accompanied by background information.
I'm disappointed over Egmont in Oslo, but greatful to you Disney-fans,
telling, at least me, the truth!

Any Egmont-person reading this?

Erlend Vold Enget, Norway 



From j.heino at pp2.inet.fi  Sat Dec 15 00:37:12 2001
From: j.heino at pp2.inet.fi (Heino)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:37:12 +0200
Subject: Don Rosa - E IL RINASCIMENTO
References: <200112131101.fBDB1Gr08454@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <005301c184f8$426118e0$0afad5d4@heinm2q>

Hi !!

DON ROSA - E IL RINASCIMENTO DISNEYANO 
Is there any list members from Italy who could help me obtain this book.

Thanks!

Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi 




From p.castagno at libero.it  Mon Dec 10 18:04:44 2001
From: p.castagno at libero.it (Paolo Castagno)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:04:44 +0100
Subject: Disney 100
Message-ID: <3C14EB2C.48761090@libero.it>

Hello,

Today I was browsing through the statistics of "Disney in Italia"
the web site where are stored all the informations about Disney
comics in Italy, and I received the great surprise of more than 300
visitors on a single day. Since the average visitors number uses to
be about 50-60 persons, there was something "strange"....

I checked the referral links, and I was surprised to see that almost
all the visitors came from a page of the "Corriere della Sera" web
site, the most important Italian newspaper, that made a special page
for Disney's 100th birthday at the address

  http://www.corriere.it/speciali/disney.shtml

where my page was reported among the Disney-related links.

So.. this is just to thank all the ones who visited my pages! I'm
happy to see my counter growing!!! ;-)

Ciao,

   - Paolo

-- 
http://digilander.iol.it/inducks  mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
  
"Il mio club ha bisogno di 50 dollari!"
"Ah, si? E li vogliono in oro, carta o decini?"
(Paperina e Paperino in W OS  367-02)


From kjell.crone at ifsworld.com  Thu Dec 13 12:35:07 2001
From: kjell.crone at ifsworld.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Kjell_Cron=E9?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:35:07 +0100
Subject: Re 765: Silent
Message-ID: <2B364F8DBC0A2C45B195893CC09186CD0114D432@gbgmail.europe.corpnet.ifsworld.com>

Anders Christian Siveb?k:
> Is it a misatke to call it Stilla nat in swedish 
> -do you sing that at Christmas, or do you sing Glada jul?

The Swedish title of the X-mas carol "Silent Night" 
and the Barks story is "Stilla natt".
But we don't sing it that often,
we prefer stupid songs like "The fox runs over the ice" ...

kjell


From bi442 at lafn.org  Sat Dec 15 18:04:32 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:04:32 GMT
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <200112151704.fBFH4VF91800@zoon.lafn.org>

For David and other members interested in the question of different experience 
for Donald's Nephews; here is the reference to the story written by Gorm  
Transgaard and final drawn by Marcal Bresco:

"Female Distraction" ("Louie in Love") - D91384  11 pages
Louie falls in love with a girl in school.  The other 2 are jealous of her 
taking his attention away from their "3 Muskateers" trio. They try to bring him 
back to his senses.

Published: 

Danmark: Anders And Extra Nr. 5 from 1997

Sweden: Musse Pigg Nr. 5 from 1997
 
Norway: No book listed (Shouldn't it have also been printed in Extra 1997-5?)

Germany: Minnie Nr. 19 from 1997

Italy: MG 514
For those interested in seeing my original drawing of the first 1/2 page 
of "Silent Night", A.C. Sivebaek will put it on a website as soon as he has 
time. It is cuurently available to be seen (as is the version drawn by Michel 
Nadorp) on one of Daniel van Eijmeren's websites. I'm sorry Daniel, I've lost 
the URL.  Could you please provide it for the group? I'm not sure, but 
perchance a link to those sites is also provided on Harry Fluks' Bolderbast 
site?

By the way Harry; a serious DONALD Fan (such as yourself) should be PROUD of 
his heritage of being "ducth"!!!  (8-)

Rob Klein



A.C. Sivebaek will 


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From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Sat Dec 15 18:41:37 2001
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:41:37 +0100
Subject: (no subject)
References: <200112151704.fBFH4VF91800@zoon.lafn.org>
Message-ID: <00a501c1858f$c05b21e0$0d6c1eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

> For David and other members interested in the question of different
experience
> for Donald's Nephews; here is the reference to the story written by Gorm
> Transgaard and final drawn by Marcal Bresco:
>
> "Female Distraction" ("Louie in Love") - D91384  11 pages
> Louie falls in love with a girl in school.  The other 2 are jealous of her
> taking his attention away from their "3 Muskateers" trio. They try to
bring him
> back to his senses.

I remember an Italian story with the exact same synopsis:

Qui, Quo, Qua e il tempo delle mele

Story code: I TL 1688-A
Hero: Huey Dewey and Louie
Pages: 31
Layout: 3-tier
All appearances: Donald Duck, Huey Dewey and Louie
Art: Massimo De Vita
Ink: Massimo De Vita
Story: Massimo Marconi
Plot: Massimo Marconi
Date of first publication: April 3, 1988
Parody of: Il tempo delle mele (C. Pinoteau)
comparsata (anonima) di Herbert, amichetto un po' scemo di QQQ nelle prime
storie di
Barks

Description
English: Huey got a girlfriend

 Brazil (O tempo da paix?o)
    O Pato Donald 2085 (1996)

 Germany (Nur wer die Sehnsucht kennt)
    Lustiges Taschenbuch 134 (1989)

 Denmark (Der er noget i luften...)
    Jumbobog 95 (1989)

 Finland (Kun lempi leimuaa)
    Aku Ankan Taskukirja 130 (1991)

 Italy
    Topolino (Libretto) 1688 (1988)
    I Classici di Walt Disney seconda serie 214 (1994)
    Topolino (Libretto) 2264 (1999)
    I classici del fumetto 15 (2000)
    Minni & company 93 (2001)

 Sweden (f?r k?rlekstrubbel)
    Kalle Ankas Pocket 104



  Francois






From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Sat Dec 15 18:55:27 2001
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:55:27 +0100
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <00ad01c18591$ade1e7e0$0d6c1eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

Does anyone know what's the nearest place to find Disney Comics (Gladstone
or older) from Beaufort, North Carolina in the U.S. ? This is for a friend
who lives there. Thanks in advance for your help.

  Francois

The Inducks Disney comics database (updated daily):
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/search.php









From j.heino at pp2.inet.fi  Sun Dec 16 00:50:17 2001
From: j.heino at pp2.inet.fi (Heino)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 01:50:17 +0200
Subject: French Rosa Picsous
References: <200112151101.fBFB1aI17278@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <004201c185c3$40fb1c00$8e058ec2@heinm2q>

Hi everybody!

Does anybody have a complete, updated list of the pin-ups DR has done to the Picsou magazine?

Thanks!
Janne Heino
j.heino at pp2.inet.fi 




From henri_michaux at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 16 01:14:37 2001
From: henri_michaux at yahoo.com (Henri Michaux)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:14:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Rosa Picsous
Message-ID: <20011216001437.96416.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>

I just read your mail:

>Does anybody have a complete, updated list of the
pin->ups DR has done to the Picsou magazine?

Here it is (most of the descriptions are in French):

FC PM 310D - The Junior Woodchucks - November 5, 1997
- Picsou menace Donald avec sa
canne - - -
FC PM 311D - Uncle Scrooge - December 3, 1997 - Neuf
dessins de Picsou représentés
comme Barks l'a imaginé lors de ses neufs premières
apparitions; Picsou à ses débuts - - -
FC PM 313D - Donald Duck - February 4, 1997 - Accident
de voiture avec la 313; Accident - -
-
FC PM 314D - Donald Duck - March 4, 1997 - Donald
entre les professeurs Ruzeski et
Molékul - - -
FC PM 315D - Uncle Scrooge - April 1, 1997 - Picsou et
Gripsou se disputent un disque incas
en or devant Manco Capac; richesses sud-américaines -
- -
FC PM 316D - Huey Dewey and Louie - May 6, 1997 -
Trois dessins des neveux de Donald :
en Castors Juniors, en joueurs de base-ball et en
pirates - - -
FC PM 317D - Donald Duck - June 3, 1997 - Donald est
chassé par un taureau furieux; Donald
toréador - - -
FC PM 318D - Uncle Scrooge - July 1, 1997 - Picsou
devant l'homme en or - - -
FC PM 319D - Uncle Scrooge - July 29, 1997 - Le dépôt
de Picsou emportée par une vague
d'or portant les Rapetou; Raz-de-marée d'argent - - -
FC PM 321D - Donald Duck - October 7, 1997 -
Smorgasbord Smorgie-la-terreur sur le pas de
la porte de Donald; Smorgie - - -
FC PM 322D - Donald Duck - November 4, 1997 - Les
Rapetou grimpant sur des oiseaux
"solides" - - -
FC PM 323D - Donald Duck - December 1, 1998 - Picsou
et Donald déguisés en Père Noël - -
-
FC PM 324D - Gladstone Gander - January 6, 1999 -
Gontran derrière les symboles de sa
chance "insolente" - - -
FC PM 325D - Uncle Scrooge - February 3, 1999 - Le
chevalier Noir coupant la 313 de
Donald en deux - - -
FC PM 326D - Donald Duck - March 3, 1999 - Les neveux
de Donald essayant de maîtriser la
Licorne - - -
FC PM 327D Xanadu - Uncle Scrooge - March 31, 1999 -
Les diverses péripéties de Picsou à
la recherche de la cité de Tralla La - - -
FC PM 328D - Donald Duck - May 5, 1999 - Gontran salue
Donald dont le bateau est en
perdition - - -
FC PM 329D - Uncle Scrooge - June 2, 1999 - Picsou sur
un chameau, Donald tentant de sauver
un âne des griffes d'un rapace géant - - -
FC PM 330D - Uncle Scrooge - July 7, 1999 - Picsou &
Cie poursuivis par les habitants de
"Plain Awful" - - -
FC PM 331D - Uncle Scrooge - August 4, 1999 - Picsou
et Goldie devant la statue de Picsou au
Klondike; Montgolfière - - -
FC PM 332D - Uncle Scrooge - September 1, 1999 - Scène
de la galerie qui s'effondre dans
"Les 7 cités de Cibola" - - -
FC PM 333D 18 - Uncle Scrooge - October 3, 1999 -
Pièces (ACS) - - -
FC PM 334D 19 - Uncle Scrooge - November 3, 1999 - La
Lune en or (ACS) - - -
FC PM 336D - ? - January 5, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 337D - ? - February 2, 2000 - Picsou secourant
Baldo le chien sur un bloc de glace - - -
FC PM 338D Les inédits de Don Rosa 23 - ? - March 1,
2000 - Barrage qui s'écroule - - -
FC PM 340D Les inédits de Don Rosa 25 - ? - May 3,
2000 - Picsou trouve la couronne de
Genghis Khan dans une grotte glacée - - -
FC PM 341D Les inédits de Don Rosa 26 - ? - May 31,
2000 - Donald et ses neveux entrant
dans la grande bulle de verre - - -
FC PM 342D Les inédits de Don Rosa 27 - Uncle Scrooge
) - July 5, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 343D Les inédits de Don Rosa 28 - Uncle Scrooge
- August 20, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 344D Les inédits de Don Rosa 29 - Uncle Scrooge
- September 6, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 345D Les inédits de Don Rosa 30 - Uncle Scrooge,
// - October 4, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 346D Les inédits de Don Rosa 31 - Donald Duck -
October 31, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 347D Les inédits de Don Rosa 32 - Uncle Scrooge
- December 6, 2000 - - - -
FC PM 349D Les inédits de Don Rosa 33 - Uncle Scrooge
- December 6, 2000 - - - -


(Taken from
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/comp2.php?code=FC+PM&keyw=&keywt=a&exactpg=1&pagel=i&pagelx=n&creat=don+rosa&vtitle=on&vhero=on&vpubdate=on&vtit=on&sort1=storycode&sort2=none&vdesc=fr
)

  H.




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From maurepas0002 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 16 01:39:58 2001
From: maurepas0002 at yahoo.com (Paulo Barrez)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:39:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Europe (OT)
Message-ID: <20011216003958.36384.qmail@web13509.mail.yahoo.com>

I agree with Andy Row. What the fuck is the matter
with those damn assholes europeans. First of all this
whole thing going on in the U.S. is NOT europe's
frikking business you have your own damn problems to
solve. Like racism, inflation, poverty, "royal"
families, pollution, criminality, neo- nazis, etc,
etc. So would you please just shut the FUCK up!!!!!
You're nothing but a continent on Hitler loving,
cocksucking, dogbreath, shit-for-brains loosers. One
more thing we the U.S.A. are the best country in all
of this little world. 
  Paulo
http://www.thetrippy.com/
the Trippy, Virginia


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From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Sun Dec 16 10:24:39 2001
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:24:39 +0100
Subject: Rosa Picsous
References: <20011216001437.96416.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c18613$7ca3e160$191efbc1@computer>

Hello everyone!

Heino, have a look at DUCK Hunt's cover index. They have several Picsou pin-ups in the "French
magazines" section (F):
http://www.duckhunt.de/
http://members.tripod.com/~TheDonRosaWorld/cover-main.htm

Best wishes,
Olivier

PS:
I'm preparing another 100th Anniversary update to M&D.
( http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/  )




From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Sun Dec 16 13:51:00 2001
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:51:00 -0200
Subject: Didier: Disney artwork from Brazil
References: <OE68mNN79xavjrRZ1Ub00001fe7@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c18630$51af9c20$c169bfc8@usuario>

Hello there! :)
Hey Didier, how are you, my friend?

First, I was not able to see the pages on the Disney-Ebay site...where is
it?
And what is general price of the brazilian pages?
What's the way to pay for it?

 *IF* I have money, I'm sure I can get it...just to have an archive of
originals that every editor around the worls can ask to use...

What I can say is that anyone knows about the condition of Abril Archives on
Disney Comics...!
The brazilian situation is very bad, since Abril stoped the production and
put off his best editor to
this days, Euclides Miyaura(Chin). They also lost the license to publish the
Marvel Comics in 2002, and they will just publish the DC Comics titles and
the Disney comics...but the problem is that the same editor of the
super-hero comics is the editor of the Disney Comics, so I can not see lot's
of expectation about it...

They're planning to reprint some old stories, re-scaning then from the
original comic book, and re-coloring then...and I'm sure it'll have really
bad results...and they're planning to do it, 'cause they lost(or THINK they
lost) the black photolith from the stories, but speaking with Mr. Paulo
Ferreira, we "discovery" that many of this are in Portugal, probably, and
the rest around Latin America. If they've lost the photolits, I can not
imagine what happens with the inked original pages...Brrrrr... :(

I know that the very firsts brazilian artwork goes to the Disney Studios,
but some artists retains the original page...I did lot's of xerox copies
from
many, many original pages of Waldyr Igayara's works. Igayara has also some
Canini's original pages. (And he's not planning to sell...he, he, he!)

Fernando!
(That just haven't 14 pages of his original artwork...in any way, 14 pages
is a very important and big number)



From reimersholme at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 16 15:27:18 2001
From: reimersholme at hotmail.com (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:27:18 +0100
Subject: Europe (OT)
References: <20011216003958.36384.qmail@web13509.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OE57Mum03yMJiQTyfPe000017c8@hotmail.com>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paulo Barrez" <maurepas0002 at yahoo.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 16 december 2001 01:39
Subject: Re: Europe (OT)


> I agree with Andy Row. What the fuck is the matter
> with those damn assholes europeans. First of all this
> whole thing going on in the U.S. is NOT europe's
> frikking business you have your own damn problems to
> solve. Like racism, inflation, poverty, "royal"
> families, pollution, criminality, neo- nazis, etc,
> etc. So would you please just shut the FUCK up!!!!!
> You're nothing but a continent on Hitler loving,
> cocksucking, dogbreath, shit-for-brains loosers. One
> more thing we the U.S.A. are the best country in all
> of this little world.
>   Paulo
> http://www.thetrippy.com/
> the Trippy, Virginia

What do these lies have to do with Disney comics?

Stefan


From SRoweCanoe at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 15:47:57 2001
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com (SRoweCanoe@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:47:57 EST
Subject: trolls (OT)
Message-ID: <c.2005eb8d.294e0e1d@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/16/2001 9:33:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
reimersholme at hotmail.com writes:


> What do these lies have to do with Disney comics?
> 
for some reason we have an occasional troll on this list.
  please don;t respond to them

Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
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From frspreaf at tin.it  Sun Dec 16 19:30:49 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:30:49 +0100
Subject: Europe (OT)
References: <20011216003958.36384.qmail@web13509.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c301c18660$2281d140$cd121897@alyson>

From: "Paulo Barrez" <maurepas0002 at yahoo.com>

> loosers

Yeah, we sometimes break loose...





From gbalanik at kat.forthnet.gr  Sun Dec 16 19:47:03 2001
From: gbalanik at kat.forthnet.gr (Georgios Balanikas M.D.)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:47:03 +0200
Subject: Disney's 100th etc.
References: <200112151102.fBFB2WI17534@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001701c18662$0e0f8660$c10bfbd4@oemcomputer>

Today "VIMAgazino",the Sunday magazine insert of the Greek newspaper "Vima",
includes an article dedicated to the100th Anniversary of the Walt Disney's
birthday ,written by Ilias Kanellis.
In this article except the life story and work of WD ,there are also some
references to the art by the great creators Carl Barks,Floyd
Gottfredson,Scarpa,Cavazzano and to the magazines as Zio Paperone, Komix &
Mickey Mouse(Gladstone).
   Another interesting magazine I bought a few days ago was the French GEO,
which was dedicated to the comic hero"Corto Maltese" and the places where he
travelled and acted. A few months ago another issue of GEO was dedicated to
"Tin Tin", his travels and places where his adventures took place.
     I think, it would be a very interesting issue dedicated to the travels
and adventures of the ducks around the world, a tribute to Carl Bark's art
or even to Don Rosa's art.

GEORGIOS







From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Mon Dec 17 15:58:35 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:58:35 +0100
Subject: Rob Klein's half page RE: (no subject)
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0C0A@l04.research.kpn.com>

Rob Klein wrote:

> For those interested in seeing my original drawing of the 
> first 1/2 page of "Silent Night", [..]
> It is currently available to be seen (as is the version 
> drawn by Michel 
> Nadorp) on one of Daniel van Eijmeren's websites. I'm sorry 
> Daniel, I've lost 
> the URL.  Could you please provide it for the group? I'm not 
> sure, but 
> perchance a link to those sites is also provided on Harry 
> Fluks' Bolderbast site?

Following the "credits & links" page on Bolderbast
(http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/bolderbast/xcredits.html)

I get to Dani?l's website (http://www.seriesam.com/barks/).

There you can see Michel Nadorp's artwork:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/text_s_silent_night_01mn.html

and Rob Klein's (drawn) script:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/text_s_silent_night_01rk.html

--Harry.


From thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 00:02:11 2001
From: thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:02:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: DCML Archives
Message-ID: <20011217230211.15916.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com>

I have uploaded the missing DCML Archives at:

http://mathstar.net/dcml/

PER STARBACK:
Waht about linking this page from your DCML site?

ANYONE:
I need your help!

I am still missing a few messages from the following
periods: 

     1996, August 20 to September 16 
     1997, October 22 to November 8 

  Favio
(big thx to Harry Fluks for the mails)



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From thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 00:25:55 2001
From: thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:25:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Mickey Mouse in Tom Tom Island
Message-ID: <20011217232555.62746.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans
In this story Mickey and Goofy go to visit Thursday at
his home on Tom Tom Island. The story was
  originally published in Four Color #304 with a 1950
copyright. 


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From thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 16:58:06 2001
From: thierryfernand31 at yahoo.com (Thierry Fernand)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:58:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: DCML Archives
In-Reply-To: <747D2ED67A22D41181240090273F51E2016A36F3@gspsvr.gsp.elsag.it>
Message-ID: <20011218155806.3907.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com>

Just a quick messsage to let you know that the DCML
archives files I was missing have been sent to me by
Armando, so no need to look for them. I just added
them to
http://mathstar.net/dcml/
(Thanks, Armando.)

~ Favio ~


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From jvainio at urova.fi  Sat Dec 15 23:11:02 2001
From: jvainio at urova.fi (jvainio@urova.fi)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:11:02 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Don's visit to Finland
In-Reply-To: <200112151102.fBFB2WI17534@numerus.ling.uu.se>
References: <200112151102.fBFB2WI17534@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <1008454262.3c1bca76e3dcd@imp.urova.fi>

Since noone's asked the man himself about this so far, I guess I'll have to do 
it: Don, how was your visit to Finland this time?

---Jyrki Vainio


From studiohavas at utanet.at  Tue Dec 18 18:34:27 2001
From: studiohavas at utanet.at (Harald Havas)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:34:27 +0100
Subject: More questions for the experts
Message-ID: <001601c187ea$45a31fe0$eac898d4@a8201960>

Hi,

thanks a lot to everybody who shared information for my upcoming book. It's
all very helpfull and I'm sure I'll find a place to honor your efforts! ;-)
We`re far in the process of editing. And still some puzzling questions
appear from time to time. Maybe somebody here could help?

1. Al Taliaferro is supposed to have illustrated one of the first Disney
picture books for a social cause: it was for Mexican immigrants and dealt
with health issues. Any idea what the title of this book was? And when it
was published?

2. Taliaferro tried his luck once with a strip of his own "Waldo" - any idea
which year that was?

3. Uncle Scrooge did appear in Taliaferro's dailies (late 50ies, after he
was used in TV). Any idea which dates (at least year?)

4. This should be easy: which year was the first Junior Woodchuck story
(which included Donald's dog Bolivar/Borneworthy)

5. How much is the current price for ?Four Color?, Nr. 4, Dell Publishing,
1940 (Donald`s first comic book appearance)

Thanks and bye for now!

Harald





From willot.francois at ec-lille.fr  Tue Dec 18 21:53:55 2001
From: willot.francois at ec-lille.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Fran=E7ois?= Willot)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:53:55 +0100
Subject: More questions for the experts
References: <001601c187ea$45a31fe0$eac898d4@a8201960>
Message-ID: <00bf01c18806$1cbb41e0$0d6c1eac@vinci.eclille.fr>

Harald wrote:

>3. Uncle Scrooge did appear in Taliaferro's dailies (late 50ies, after he
>was used in TV). Any idea which dates (at least year?)

In 1951. Having indexed all '51 dailies, I can give you the following list:

YD 51-02-13 - US arrives in train - - -
YD 51-02-14 - US doesn't want to take a taxi, and has his nephews holding
his bags - - -
YD 51-02-15 - HDL and DD discover that US's bags are full of money - - -
YD 51-02-17 - HDL ask US to take them to the cinema; HDL invite US to
western movie - - -
YD 51-02-19 - US goes to the ciname alone; paying for one ticket to western
movie - - -
YD 51-02-20 - - - -
YD 51-02-21 - US sleeps with money bills - - -
YD 51-02-22 - Room full of money safes - - -
YD 51-02-23 - US tries to buy ice cream for HDL; ice cream salesman couldn't
accept 100
dollar note - - -
YD 57-06-17 - Kittens for Daisy - WDC 233 - -

(Note: there may be more between 1952 and 1957)

I don't find Scrooge is at his best in these strips, not as good as Daisy or
the kids.





From dghez at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 18 22:17:50 2001
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:17:50 +0100
Subject: Disney artwork from Brazil
Message-ID: <OE67JziWwSoRKbpG1Ki00004914@hotmail.com>

Fernando,

Sorry for my late answer but I needed some confirmations from Disney
auctions before being able to give you a precise feedback.

The auction will start on Monday 24th on www.ebay.disney.com and will last
one week.

The reserve prices will be around 50 USD per page, so very low. The
selection will include stories with Gyro, Super Goof, Scamp, The Aristocats,
The Lion King, with art dating as far back as the mid-70s.

By now, you have probably received my private answer about the rest of your
message.

Didier


From armando.botto at libero.it  Tue Dec 18 23:22:14 2001
From: armando.botto at libero.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:22:14 +0100
Subject: More questions for the experts
Message-ID: <010c01c18812$731c2de0$82041c97@ccse0315>

Harald:
> 4. This should be easy: which year was the first Junior Woodchuck story
(which included Donald's dog Bolivar/Borneworthy)

The story (simply titled "Donald Duck") was published in WDC&S 125, February
1951.

Ciao,
Armando




From jmantere at niksula.hut.fi  Wed Dec 19 12:09:02 2001
From: jmantere at niksula.hut.fi (Jussi Mantere)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:09:02 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Don's visit to Finland
In-Reply-To: <1008454262.3c1bca76e3dcd@imp.urova.fi>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.20.0112191307040.15079-100000@monsoon.cs.hut.fi>

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 jvainio at urova.fi wrote:

> Since noone's asked the man himself about this so far, I guess I'll have to do 
> it: Don, how was your visit to Finland this time?

And since I first have to ask myself "how come I once again missed your
visit?", I must also ask: when are you coming next time?-) (I suppose the
folks at HM already have arranged a steady schedule of visits :--)

...dang, I even bought a copy of the new book as a christmas present and
still failed to make it on time to get a signed copy :(

 -jussi
-- 
. jussi mantere
. http://www.iki.fi/obs/
. learned more from a three minute record 
.. than we ever learned in school



From don at donbrockway.com  Wed Dec 19 21:22:30 2001
From: don at donbrockway.com (Don Brockway)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:22:30 -0500
Subject: Source for Gladstone Albums?
In-Reply-To: <200112191104.fBJB4N809810@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000201c188ca$e2a01d80$6501a8c0@dytz801>

Just joined the list.

I'm missing a Gladstone Album: "First Two Years of Disney Duck
Adventures by William Van Horne" Number 1 (in the series of four).

Could someone advise me (off list, if this is an old and annoying
subject for those gathered here) where a good place to go for Gladstone
Albums and back issues might be?

Also - and this will let you all know you seriously "out-of-the-loop" I
am - what happened to John Nichols and Bear Mountain Enterprises?

Thanks in advance to whatever kindly soul(s) might offer answers.

Don Brockway

don at donbrockway.com
Home of an unofficial Disney site that might mean something to you if
you were a Disney fan in the 50's: Kathryn Beaumont:
http://www.donbrockway.com/kb.htm 




From marcobar at ds.unifi.it  Thu Dec 20 15:18:00 2001
From: marcobar at ds.unifi.it (Marco Barlotti)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:18:00 +0100
Subject: Seasons' greetings
In-Reply-To: <200112191106.fBJB6e810123@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011220151800.00913100@ds.unifi.it>

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Greetings.html












From marmelmm at drexel.edu  Thu Dec 20 16:05:34 2001
From: marmelmm at drexel.edu (M. Mitchell Marmel)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:05:34 -0500
Subject: OT: In Memoriam: Dan DeCarlo
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20011220151800.00913100@ds.unifi.it>
References: <3.0.6.32.20011220151800.00913100@ds.unifi.it>
Message-ID: <p04310101b847abb531f8@[129.25.19.57]>

(I'm pretty sure that Dan did some Disney stuff at some point, so 
this may not be so off-topic.)

>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:21:03 -0600
>From: mike and carole curtis <shandafa at cyberback.com>
>Subject: [shandaverse] Our friend Dan is gone
>To: shandaverse at yahoogroups.com
>
>(Note: Dan did the cover of SHANDA 14 and MAGIC CARPET 3 with the
>Shanda characters.  He was scheduled to do the cover of FURRY NINJA
>HIGH SCHOOL #1)
>
>Dan DeCarlo, creator of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS, SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH,
>and the ARCHIE character Cheryl Blossom, died this morning.
>
>I'm still getting details, we have a call in to Josie in 30 minutes, but
>basically, he had a heart attack this morning.
>
>Funeral arrangements are yet to be announced.
>
>Dan was born in New Rochelle, NY in 1919, and had an artistic family
>background.  His father worked in landscaping, as did Dan.  When Dan was in
>his teens, he often drew art on jackets and cars for friends.
>
>During WWII, he was stationed in England first, and then Belgium, where he
>met Josette Dumont.  Dan married Josie, and then brought her back to the US.
>They soon were joined by Dan's twin sons, Dan Jr. and Jim.  He answered an
>newspaper ad and began working for Stan Lee at Timely Comics, doing a
>teenage book called JEANNIE.
>
>Dan went on to do MILLIE THE MODEL and MY FRIEND IRMA.  Stan and he also did
>a strip called WILLIE LUMPKIN , familiar to recent comic readers from it's
>reprints in MARVEL AGE.
>
>Other projects Dan worked on included THE YARDBIRDS and THE BRAIN, as well
>as cartoons for men's humor magazines.
>
>Eventually, Dan began freelancing for ARCHIE.  Instructed at first to
>imitate the creator Bob Montana, Dan quickly asserted his style, which
>became the official ARCHIE look.
>
>During this time, Dan created a teenage feature of his own, called JOSIE,
>named after his wife, and inspired by his sons and their friends.  He
>planned the feature as a comic strip, but put it aside to work on comics.
>Later he took it into ARCHIE and showed it to Richard Goldwater, hoping to
>see it become a comic.  Goldwater added his name to it, and it was pitched
>unsuccessfully as a comic strip.  Eventually it became a comic from ARCHIE,
>credited to "Dick and Dan", the first wide use of creator credits at the
>company.
>
>During the 1960's, Dan was kept busy doing promotional art for THE ARCHIES
>cartoon, and a deal was made without his knowledge to animate JOSIE.
>
>JOSIE had undergone a change, to become a girl group.  Dan had designed the
>costumes after one his wife Josie had made and worn to a costume party.
>
>JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS became a CBS cartoon show, which is still airing on
>the Cartoon Network.
>
>During the 1960's Dan also co-created SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH with George
>Gladir, when MADHOUSE needed a new character.  Dan Jr. and Jim also did work
>at ARCHIE during this time, before their deaths.
>
>Later on, Dan created the third "Archie girl" Cheryl Blossom, to make the
>Archie triangle a quadrangle.
>
>As the 1990's dawned, more and more of the older artists were retiring from
>Archie.  New talents were told to imitate his style, and ARCHIE had
>videotapes made of him giving lessons on drawing in his style.
>
>When SABRINA was made into a TV show, Dan heard rumors that JOSIE might be
>next.  He decided to look into his legal rights, which had been ignored
>during the cartoon show days.  He retained a lawyer, and was promptly let go
>by ARCHIE.
>
>Dan stayed busy, doing THE SIMPSONS, two HARLEY QUINN stories for DC, as
>well as a SCOOBY DOO story.  We at Shanda Fantasy Arts also had the pleasure
>of having him do a few covers for us.
>
>Dan made many convention appearances, and at his first "furry" con
>appearance in July 2001, was treated to a performance by a live "Josie"
>played by KATMANDU artist Lisa Jennings.
>
>Dan was busy with plans for two new series at his death.  One was LOWER EAST
>SIDE for Dan Fogel, and another was JESSICA AND THE BUNNYGIRLS, a new
>teenage girl group comic.
>
>Dan is survived by his wife Josie and two granddaughters, Jessica and
>Christie.
>
>============================================
>
>
>On a personal note, my wife Carole and I had the privilege of having Dan and
>Josie for friends in the last years of his life.  He was supported in his
>crusade for creator rights by Peter David, Mark Evanier,  Mark Ingersoll,
>Bill Morrison, Paul Dini and many other creators.
>
>On an even more personal note, Dan suffered much stress during the last two
>years during his battle with Archie  and this surely contributed to his ill
>health over the past year.
>
>I hope you b*******s at Archie are happy.  Sue me if you wish.
>
>Mike Curtis & Carole Curtis
>SHANDA FANTASY ARTS


From Stratocruiser at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 20 18:14:12 2001
From: Stratocruiser at earthlink.net (Carey M. Furlong)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:14:12 -0800
Subject: Questions & Answers
In-Reply-To: <200112201104.fBKB4S817370@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <000301c18979$bf18b480$0201a8c0@thunderjet>

> Could someone advise me (off list, if this is an old and annoying
> subject for those gathered here) where a good place to go for Gladstone
> Albums and back issues might be?

Ebay might be the best place. I see them there all the time, and the only
search string I enter is "uncle scrooge."

> Also - and this will let you all know you seriously "out-of-the-loop" I
> am - what happened to John Nichols and Bear Mountain Enterprises?

I'd like to know this myself. He seemed to just disappear about a year ago.

Carey Furlong
Huntington Beach, CA USA



From mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr  Fri Dec 21 18:23:18 2001
From: mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr (Olivier)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:23:18 +0100
Subject: Update and, more importantly, ...
Message-ID: <000801c18a44$2eaa3380$92d6fdc1@computer>

Happy holiday and a very merry, peaceful, restful and joyful Christmas to you all!

Olivier

PS-- M&D update:
- "Gifts for Shacktown" wallpaper (616*768) (191.3 kb) in the Treasure Chest
- 5 new images in the Walt Disney Centennial Special--
4 posters for MM & DD shorts, and the cover of  Mickey Mouse Magazine number 9 (vol 1, June 1936) (814*1157, 583.3 kb)
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From e_halinen at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 22 21:44:02 2001
From: e_halinen at hotmail.com (Eero-Pekka Halinen)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:44:02 +0200
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #770 - 5 msgs
Message-ID: <F273iKAe2hXSDx1kLwx0000a5b3@hotmail.com>

> > I agree with Andy Row. What the fuck is the matter
> > with those damn assholes europeans. First of all this
> > whole thing going on in the U.S. is NOT europe's
> > frikking business you have your own damn problems to
> > solve. Like racism, inflation, poverty, "royal"
> > families, pollution, criminality, neo- nazis, etc,
> > etc. So would you please just shut the FUCK up!!!!!
> > You're nothing but a continent on Hitler loving,
> > cocksucking, dogbreath, shit-for-brains loosers. One
> > more thing we the U.S.A. are the best country in all
> > of this little world.
> >   Paulo

I didn't know that here are people that we could consider as idiots.

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From timoro at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 23 16:32:39 2001
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:32:39 +0200
Subject: Merry Xmas!!
Message-ID: <F162KPc99ir3wSimD3J0000af5a@hotmail.com>

Merry Christmas to all! And Happy New Year!!

Timo


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From komixgreekpage at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 21:46:40 2001
From: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com (Apostolis Trikourakis)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:46:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: KOMIX #163
Message-ID: <20011223204640.5121.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all

Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:

* Cover by Don Rosa, from Picsou #347. I have put a
scan in:
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/temp/Komix163.JPG

* A two-page letters column. Among the letters, there
is one by Anders C. Sivebaek, talking about Don Rosa's
pre-work books and his Komix collection. So, here's
the answer from the editor of the column:

"Anders is one of the most ardent/warm Komix readers
we've ever met! The older readers will remember him
from his previous letters. From the extract [was your
letter very big Anders?] of that e-mail who sent us,
the most impressive is the fact that some people's
love, who are living far away, bring us all together.
Dear Anders, we thank you for your, always, polite and
proper remarks!"
The rest of the letters are about Aragones' "Space
Circus", digital comics and the new Lo$ chapter.

* A two-page column with "Komix News". Most important
(for me at least) is the part about my page! They put
a photo of my home page, the address and a nice text
explaining what a user will find there :-)
The rest of the news are about Don's new story with
Gyro, the 29th Angulem festival, the Italian edition
of "The Comics Journal", and the new movie "From
Hell".

* Romano Scarpa's "Le Delizie Natalizie" (28 pages),
first published on December 19th 1954. Story code I AO
54051-A.

* A three-page article titled "Opportunists and Dreams
in the Snow", subtitled "Don Rosa writes about the
Hearts of the Yukon".

* Carl Barks' "Gladstone's Usual Very Good Year" (10
pages), first published on January 1952, from Walt
Disney Comics and Stories #388. Story code W WDC
136-02.

* A four-page article titled "From Conan the Barbarian
to Groo", subtitled "Barbarian Comics and Heroic Goofs
from two Master Artists"

* Sergio Aragones' "Groo and Rufferto" (part 1 of 4),
first published in 1998. I hope this will be the last
non-disney story...

Next issue will come out on February 1st with 1 story
by many artists (I have no idea which story is that)
and part 2 of "Groo and Rufferto".
Finally, Komix' price is €2,64
Merry Christmas


=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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From gbalanik at med.auth.gr  Sun Dec 23 22:51:43 2001
From: gbalanik at med.auth.gr (Georgios Balanikas M.D.)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:51:43 +0200
Subject: Greetings
References: <200112231102.fBNB2dl13921@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001601c18bfc$0c7b2120$1958cf9b@oemcomputer>

Merry Christmas to all the friends and members in the list.

GEORGIOS



From danielvvhh at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 24 12:08:38 2001
From: danielvvhh at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20vasset?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:08:38 +0100 (CET)
Subject: DCML digest, Vol 1 #777 - 3 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200112241102.fBOB2Yl02342@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <20011224110838.71209.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes.

A merry christmas and a happy new year to you all!!


Best wishes Daniel,Norway

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and DUCKhunt Mailinglist.

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From bi442 at lafn.org  Mon Dec 24 12:56:05 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:56:05 GMT
Subject: Xmas greetings from Rob K.
Message-ID: <200112241156.fBOBu5F27388@zoon.lafn.org>

Hi everyone. I hope all of you have very enjoyable holidays and the very best 
new year ever.  My drawn Disney holiday card will be viewable as soon as one of 
my friends puts it on their website.  When that is done, they will inform DCML 
of the web address.  Thanks for the your interesting messages this past year.
Rob
Klein

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From cferioli at teleline.es  Mon Dec 24 17:31:10 2001
From: cferioli at teleline.es (Cesar Ferioli)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 17:31:10 +0100
Subject: Merry X-mas
Message-ID: <001201c18c98$66513440$a22199c1@hppcgqhdtxhj>

Hello everybody!

My warmest wishes of Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, hoping that the old
Chinese curse "May you live interesting time" would be delayed for a while
on this old, tattered planet...

By the way, thank you for your (*almost* always) interesting mails on the
list. Keep it on! They're useful for the cartoonists in our work,

C?sar



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Mon Dec 24 17:54:44 2001
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 18:54:44 +0200
Subject: KOMIX #163
In-Reply-To: <200112241103.fBOB3vl02513@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <yam8758.2235.294833584@dias.cti.gr>

APOSTOLIS:

> * A two-page column with "Komix News". Most important
> (for me at least) is the part about my page! They put
> a photo of my home page, the address and a nice text
> explaining what a user will find there :-)
> ...
> * Sergio Aragones' "Groo and Rufferto" (part 1 of 4),
> first published in 1998. I hope this will be the last
> non-disney story...

How about making the front page of your site a protest page, protesting
KOMIX' publishing non-Disney material in their pages?

One thing these Aragones/Evanier stories have made me realize is how
good a story teller Barks was. Barks could unfold an entire adventure in
a mere 10 to 24 pages, while it takes 96 pages for Aragones/Evanier to
tell a story.  Reading through the first part of "Groo and Rufferto",
I can't say there's much going on in the first part. In this respect,
Don is even better than Barks, as he manages to cram an astonishing
amount of both action and information in his meager allotment of pages.
Of course, the size of the stories and the amount of "padding" they
contain probably has more to do with marketing (the publisher asks for
a 96 page four-parter, they get one), but I can't help wondering what
kind of story Barks or Don would have produced, had they been allowed
such a large page count.

        Kriton  (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
                (WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You know, I think it's just a matter of putting two and two together to make
 three..."
-----



From frspreaf at tin.it  Tue Dec 25 00:07:29 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 00:07:29 +0100
Subject: Merry Xmas
Message-ID: <01ed01c18ccf$d22d7d40$e6061897@alyson>

First: Merry Christmas to you all.

Second: if your Italian, go buy Topolino 2405, you'll find a very nice Xmas
present by the Master Romano Scarpa :-)

--
Sprea



From mani at iki.fi  Tue Dec 25 09:26:11 2001
From: mani at iki.fi (Ari Seppi)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:26:11 +0200
Subject: Merry Xmas
In-Reply-To: <01ed01c18ccf$d22d7d40$e6061897@alyson>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011225101550.00a84490@imap.sooninternet.net>

Francesco:
>First: Merry Christmas to you all.

Indeed.

>Second: if your Italian, go buy Topolino 2405, you'll find a very nice Xmas
>present by the Master Romano Scarpa :-)

If you mean F JM 98235: Topolino e le dolcezze del Natale, there is no
need for being Italian: The story was also published in Sweden*) (in other
Egmont countries as well?) and Finland *2) - although the Finnish publication
is a bit difficult to get unless you are a subscriber of Kuukauden
sarjisekstra.

*) Kalle Anka 51-52/2001
*2) Kuukauden sarjisekstra 12/2001

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Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja



From frspreaf at tin.it  Tue Dec 25 10:54:21 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:54:21 +0100
Subject: Merry Xmas
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011225101550.00a84490@imap.sooninternet.net>
Message-ID: <008301c18d2a$225938e0$3c001897@alyson>

From: "Ari Seppi" <mani at iki.fi>

> If you mean F JM 98235: Topolino e le dolcezze del Natale, there is no
> need for being Italian: The story was also published in Sweden*) (in other
> Egmont countries as well?) and Finland *2)

I hadn't noticed, wow!

> *) Kalle Anka 51-52/2001
> *2) Kuukauden sarjisekstra 12/2001

/ad mode on

And all of these reprints already are in the inducks database, check'em out:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/story.php/0/F+JM+98235

/ad mode off

:-)

BTW, anybody want to trade these? I'd like a copy of those versions.

--
Sprea



From bi442 at lafn.org  Tue Dec 25 17:30:25 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (Rob Klein)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 08:30:25 -0800
Subject: Rob K's Christmas Drawing URL
Message-ID: <200112251621.fBPGLgF24768@zoon.lafn.org>

Again, happy holidays and/or vacation time to all!  The URL (web address)
for my Holiday Drawing is:

<www.inducks.de/inducks/img/inducks rob klein xmas 2001.jpg>

Rob Klein

I apologise to our many Greek and Finnish members (and those of any other
Nations whose language I did not represent.  I would appreciate seeing the
Roman Alphabet spellings of "Happy (or) Merry Christmas" and "Happy (or)
Good New Year" in Greek, Finnish and any of those other languages.  Thanks.
 Rob Klein

<bi442 at lafn.org>

<robbklein at yahoo.com>


From timoro at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 25 19:22:53 2001
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:22:53 +0200
Subject: Roy Williams Q
Message-ID: <F246cJphUpFMaRjyzbA0000c0df@hotmail.com>

Hi!


I have a question about Roy Williams. Is this Big Mousketeer guy same who 
wrote Mickey Mouse Sunday-pages between 1963-68? I know he worked for Disney 
short animations as a gagman and animator.

Best Wishes
Timo



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20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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From armando.botto at libero.it  Tue Dec 25 20:01:59 2001
From: armando.botto at libero.it (Armando Botto)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:01:59 +0100
Subject: Roy Williams A
Message-ID: <007201c18d76$a476f000$97081c97@ccse0315>

Timo wrote:
> I have a question about Roy Williams. Is this Big Mousketeer guy same who
wrote Mickey Mouse Sunday-pages between 1963-68? I know he worked for Disney
short animations as a gagman and animator.

Yes, he's the same person. He's also credited for Mickey Mouse dailies
1962-68, and for the "Mickey Mouse and His Friends" daily strip (1959-1962).
BTW, Harry: the Inducks currently reports Milt Banta as writer for "Mickey
Mouse and His Friends", but - according to Alberto Becattini's "Disney
Comics" - Roy Williams stepped in starting from April 1959.

Ciao,
Armando




From bi442 at lafn.org  Wed Dec 26 02:13:59 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 01:13:59 GMT
Subject: Rob K's Holiday Card
Message-ID: <200112260113.fBQ1Dxs52219@zoon.lafn.org>

Sorry for the wrong URL. The correct one for viewing Rob Klein's Holiday Card 
is:

<www.inducks.de/inducks/img/inducks_rob_klein_xmas2001.jpg>

Alex Goerig sent it to me with an underline which coincided with and obscured 
the underbars in the spaces between words.  For those Finns who would have 
liked to see the Finnish greeting added: "Hyvaa Joulua!!!"  - Rob
Klein

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From pkannine at cc.hut.fi  Wed Dec 26 02:48:03 2001
From: pkannine at cc.hut.fi (Petri Kanninen)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 03:48:03 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Scarpa story in Finland
In-Reply-To: <200112251101.fBPB1nl32480@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10112260334040.30418-100000@kosh.hut.fi>

SPREA:
> From: "Ari Seppi" <mani at iki.fi>
> > If you mean F JM 98235: Topolino e le dolcezze del Natale, there is no
> > need for being Italian: The story was also published in Sweden*) (in other
> > Egmont countries as well?) and Finland *2)
> >
> > *) Kalle Anka 51-52/2001
> > *2) Kuukauden sarjisekstra 12/2001
> 
> BTW, anybody want to trade these? I'd like a copy of those versions.

Hi! Hope you all had a very merry christmas!
And back to business. The Finnish reprint may be very hard to get.
Sarjisekstra is not distributed to any stores, you can only order it if
you ordet the weekly. So you only get one magazine and can't buy spares.
Well, someone may sell his issue but hey! It's an Scarpa story. Who would
want to sell that?
BTW. This distribution policy of Sarjisekstra has made their value soar.
The first issues published in 1999 fetch prices like 100 markkas (about
16-17 euros) in second-hand comic-shops that know the comic business. And
they are are like normal weeklies. (Even a bit shorter actually: 32
pages).

--
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Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/

"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001




From frspreaf at tin.it  Wed Dec 26 12:00:54 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:00:54 +0100
Subject: Scarpa story in Finland
References: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10112260334040.30418-100000@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <00bc01c18dfc$e9fafe60$80131897@alyson>

From: "Petri Kanninen" <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>

> you ordet the weekly. So you only get one magazine and can't buy spares.
> Well, someone may sell his issue but hey! It's an Scarpa story. Who would
> want to sell that?

Uhm... well, anybody want to trade the Swedish issue then? :-)

--
Sprea



From dghez at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 26 13:35:00 2001
From: dghez at hotmail.com (Didier Ghez)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:35:00 +0100
Subject: Disney Art from Brazil
Message-ID: <OE32VTyDX8mEvoRqbqa0000276f@hotmail.com>

Hi,

Happy New Year. Feliz Navidad. Joyeux Noel to all of you.

The Disney Art from Brazil is now available for sale on www.ebay.disney.com

Didier


From j.kamer at wxs.nl  Wed Dec 26 18:20:42 2001
From: j.kamer at wxs.nl (Rolf van de Kamer)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:20:42 +0100
Subject: renewal subscription
Message-ID: <001801c18e31$a5f31ec0$53b679c3@default>

Dear listmanager,

Some weeks ago my computer crashed. There is a lot of outstanding mail waiting to be read. As you can see, all is well again and I should want to be on the dcml-list again. Many thanks beforehand from wintry Amsterdam together with seasonal greetings !

Rolf van de Kamer
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From harryklein at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 27 23:16:23 2001
From: harryklein at hotmail.com (Olaf Solstrand)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:16:23 +0100
Subject: Next D.R. story in Scandinavia?
Message-ID: <F70UvKMbavVQ9WF5knB00010343@hotmail.com>

I'm asking this question because someone asked it in the discussion forum on 
my website: Can someone tell me when the next Don Rosa story will be 
published in Norway (or Scandinavia), and what story it will be? I seem to 
recall that someone told us about The Crown Of The Crusader Kings several 
months before it came, so without knowing HOW, I guess someone here has the 
possibility to answer these questions?

-olaf-
andebyonline.com

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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Dec 28 09:23:50 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:23:50 +0100
Subject: Next D.R. story [in Scandinavia]
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0C47@l04.research.kpn.com>

Olaf:

> Can someone tell me when the next Don Rosa story will be 
> published in Norway (or Scandinavia), and what story it will 
> be?

I got the following information from Sigvald Gr?sfjeld:

> During the spring Lo$ part 10b "The Sharpie of The
> Culebra Cut" (26 pages) is said to be published also
> in the Nordic countries.
> 
> Another story also ready to be published is the 13
> pager "Forget It" which is the same type of story as
> "A Matter of Some Gravity". This time Magica uses a
> different kind of spell to make it difficult for our
> friends to chase her after she has stolen the #1-dime.
> 
> Before the end of 2001 Don Rosa will most likely have
> finished his newest story "Gyro's First Invention", a
> 20-page Gyro Gearloose 50-years anniversary story
> which also is a sequel to "A Christmas for Shacktown".

--Harry.


From apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr  Fri Dec 28 13:23:17 2001
From: apantsio at ac.anatolia.edu.gr (Archontis Pantsios)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:23:17 +0200
Subject: MIKY MAOUS & KLASIKA
References: <200112271102.fBRB2Ol27695@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <008b01c18f9a$6e785540$6c2ddbc2@anatolia.edu.gr>

Season's Greetings to all!

Here's what hit the Greek stands in the past 2 weeks:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1848, December 14, 2001 (The issue included a deck of cards,
with a Disney character appearing on each card and had a cover price of 4.4
Euro)
a) Witch Hazel in "L' amnesia di Nocciola", from "Topolino" #2196, 1997 (29
pages). Script: Angelo Palmas; Art: Valerio Held
b) Uncle Scrooge in "La citta satellite", from "Topolino" #1324, 1981 (24
pages). Script & art: Massimo De Vita
c) Donald Duck in "The Phone Call", 5 pages. Unknown story code and creators
(S-coded story).


2) MIKY MAOUS #1849, December 21, 2001
a) Inspector Manetta in "L' indagine natalizia", from "Topolino" #2196, 1997
(30 pages). Script: Tito Faraci; Art: Giorgio Cavazzano
b) Donald Duck in "Payment in ...Kind", D-4255 (23 pages). Script: Unknown;
Art: Daniel Branca
c) Goofy in "The Historic Hat", S-76020 (10 pages). Script: Howard Swift;
Art: The Disney Studio
d) Ludwig von Drake in "La bella silenziosa", from "Topolino" #2258, 1999 (5
pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Marco Pavone


3) KLASIKA #170, December 2001-January 2002
a) Uncle Scrooge in "La fuga nel tempo", from "Topolino" #1272-1273, 1980
(65 pages in two parts). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi
b) Mickey Mouse in "Il 'carousel' dei furti", from "Topolino" #1114, 1977
(32 pages). Script & art: Romano Scarpa
c) Gyro Gearloose in "Il signor Scherzo", from "Topolino" #384, 1963 (38
pages). Script: Carlo Chendi; Art: Luciano Bottaro
d) Super Goofy in "Saving the Super Planet", W.S.G. #60 (14 pages). Script:
Unknown; Art: Kay Wright


I wish all a Happy New Year!

Holiday Cheers,

Archontis



--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228





From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Fri Dec 28 17:15:04 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:15:04 +0100
Subject: Happy new year
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0C49@l04.research.kpn.com>

"Ik wens iedereen een bijzonder goed 2002!"

http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/

--Harry.


From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Fri Dec 28 21:10:06 2001
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:10:06 +0100
Subject: Sv:#781
Message-ID: <200112282010.fBSKAcvY046635@mail.mira.dk>

Olaf
> Subject: Next D.R. story in Scandinavia?
> Date:   Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:16:23 +0100
> I'm asking this question because someone asked it in the discussion
> forum on 
> my website: Can someone tell me when the next Don Rosa story will be 
> published in Norway (or Scandinavia), and what story it will be?
Forget it! - 13 pages - it's on its way. 

BTW Where is that forum on your page - I only have slight problems
reading
new norwegian, but I'm learning - but I still can't find the forum
> I seem to 
> recall that someone told us about The Crown Of The Crusader Kings
several 
> months before it came, so without knowing HOW, I guess someone here
has the 
> possibility to answer these questions?
The nearest person to answer is sometimes Don - though noone forces the
publishers 
to tell him about when his stories comes out (I think someone ought to
froce them, but
that's my opinion). 

You can usually check one of our pages and find out - eg.
www.duckhunt.de or http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/ 
(Sigvald's pages aren't fully online at the moment, "thanks" to xoom) 

HARRY
> > During the spring Lo$ part 10b "The Sharpie of The
> > Culebra Cut" (26 pages) is said to be published also
> > in the Nordic countries.
Oh - okay. That's the newest info. That part of Sigvald's pages are
fine then. 

> > Another story also ready to be published is the 13
> > pager "Forget It" which is the same type of story as
> > "A Matter of Some Gravity". This time Magica uses a
> > different kind of spell to make it difficult for our
> > friends to chase her after she has stolen the #1-dime.
This story is on the way in the Germany, I see on their comicforum. 
In Spring it will come out - and Joachim tells that the Rosa 3d comic 
(Nostildamus) comes in issue 4)

AC


From marmelmm at drexel.edu  Sat Dec 29 14:58:39 2001
From: marmelmm at drexel.edu (M. Mitchell Marmel)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 08:58:39 -0500
Subject: Dewey Defeats Truman
In-Reply-To: <008b01c18f9a$6e785540$6c2ddbc2@anatolia.edu.gr>
References: <200112271102.fBRB2Ol27695@numerus.ling.uu.se>
 <008b01c18f9a$6e785540$6c2ddbc2@anatolia.edu.gr>
Message-ID: <v04210105b8537c4f8993@[216.158.59.237]>

Always knew them ducks was up to something.  ;)

http://www.somethingawful.com/features/history/14-deliverator-dewey.jpg

-MMM-


From donrosa at iglou.com  Sat Dec 29 16:04:24 2001
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:04:24 -0500
Subject: DCML digest #772
References: <200112191106.fBJB6Q810070@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001501c1907a$2b45f760$9defffcc@default>

From: jvainio at urova.fi
>>>>Since noone's asked the man himself about this so far, I guess I'll
have to do
it: Don, how was your visit to Finland this time?

I don't normally tell about this or that on here unless specifically asked.
But even so, I've had precious little time to respond to anything lately. I
was there in Finland for over a week, then home for about a week, then off
on my usual Christmas trip to warmer climes... and now I'm back again. And
I *still* force myself to keep up with answering 100% of the e-mail I
receive every day, so I haven't had any time for extra communications.
Still, what's there to say about my trips to Finland? They are very
interesting, actually mind-boggling, to *me*, but I don't know what to say
about them that would interest anyone else. I hurried from city to city
(Helsinki, Turku, Tampere, Oulu), press conference to press conference, TV
studio to TV studio, and (especially!!!) bookstore to bookstore. And it's
all I can do to make it from one spot to another before I start signing
books again, because at some bookstores they told me that people were
waiting in line for up to 6 hours *before* I arrived! (I assume that was
just a few people, I hope! I think the usual wait was more like 2 hours.)
But any length of time anyone waits in line for me distresses me, since I
*detest* waiting in line (or queues as you call them in British-English),
so I work feverishly to try to sign books as fast as possible so that I do
everything in my power to make sure everyone gets something after as short
a wait as possible. It really saddens me that the most devoted Duckfans on
the planet are the ones who get the *least* amount of individual attention
from me since there are so MANY of them! But since I can't stop the clock
and chat with each person in line, all I can do is move my little hand as
fast as possible signing the books -- but I tried to make sure that I
always picked each book up and handed it to the person and made
"eye-contact" and smiled and thanked them. They deserve so much more, but
that's the best I could do.
There seemed to be a bit less press interest in this new book than the last
one, which is what I expected since we knew I could never top the Kalevala
as a subject to interest the entire nation of Finland! But there were still
*more* book buyers at the stores than last time. Nobody was counting, but
the best estimates were that at *each* store, within about 2 to 3 hours, I
signed about 800-1200 new books, and that doesn't count the old books and
comics (and T-shirts and hats and human body parts) that people also
brought through the lines. Including all 10 large bookstores that I visited
(and two comic shops) I guess I autographed 8,000 to  perhaps over 10,000
new books. That's a heap o' signin'. Thank gosh I have a *short* name!
But you'd hafta *be* there to see these book-signing spectacles... just
telling about it doesn't seem very interesting. Of course, I had someone
walk down all the lines and film all the sessions with my camcorder, or
else no one would believe me when I told them about it back home.
Uumm... what else would you like to know? If there's some part of my
wonderful Finnish trip(s) that you'd like to know more about, just ask.
I will offer, as I try to always do, that the Finnish publisher took GREAT
care of me and it's a joy to be with them. They are the greatest buncha
people that I've encountered in all my travels.

From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
>>>>>>>>> I seem to
> recall that someone told us about The Crown Of The Crusader Kings
several
> months before it came, so without knowing HOW, I guess someone here
has the
> possibility to answer these questions?
>>>>>>>>>The nearest person to answer is sometimes Don - though noone
forces the
publishers
to tell him about when his stories comes out (I think someone ought to
force them, but
that's my opinion).

Well, most of them don't tell me since they don't feel there's any reason
for me to know. Still, with some of the publishers, it's all I can do to
find fans in the countries who will help me buy copies for myself (such as
Holland). The really nice publishers let me know since I often work with
their translators to assure an accurate translation of my scripts, but I
never hear from all the others. If you think you know a way to *force*
them, as you suggest, to tell me when they use one of my stories, I'd also
be interested in you forcing them to PAY me when they use my stories! That
would be of even *more* use to me! (But lotsa luck.)
I know that the Egmont countries must be getting ready to use "Forget It!"
and "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" since they are now asking me for
covers and script help. But I still can't tell you what issues the stories
will be in. And I'm still working on "Gyro's First Invention" (the 50th
anniversary story, sequel to "Christmas for Shacktown"), and that should
appear in March, I think (for proper timing).

>>>>This story is on the way in the Germany, I see on their comicforum.
In Spring it will come out - and Joachim tells that the Rosa 3d comic
(Nostildamus) comes in issue 4)

Well, that's not good news. Not to me. That was NOT a 3D story! I never
intended it to be so. Di$ney Comics hired someone to take that Egmont story
and turn it 3D, and now the 3D version is the only way it's ever seen. 3D
is okay as a novelty, but I'd hate to think that's the only way that story
will ever be seen. But please call it a "Rosa comic that somebody made 3D",
not a "Rosa 3D comic".






From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Sat Dec 29 22:29:19 2001
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:29:19 +0100
Subject: The Rosa Versions updated
Message-ID: <200112292127.fBTLRPvY038662@mail.mira.dk>

Hello friends

My page The (Don) Rosa versions is now updated with the newest info I
have - scans from the Crown of the Crusader Kings. 
I also corrected a mistake I made on the Cabelleroes page (a panel from
Eldorado had replaced one of the Cabelleroes panels - of my own fault)

These pages is of course mostly for insiders, fans/readers of Don's
stories and others who would be interested. 

I am proud that my Inducks-friends are easier able to find out what
version of a Rosa-story is printed in their weekly/monthly/whatever,
because of that page. 

I did get a mail some time ago telling that the trafic on the page is
high - so if you experience not being able to enter, try again later -
the mail said there's a max number of wievs per hour. 

The link is the good old: 
http://www.geocities.com/acsive/versions.html

Happy New Year
Yours
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk



From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Sun Dec 30 16:00:26 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:00:26 +0100
Subject: Don Rosa in 3-D
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0C62@l04.research.kpn.com>

Don:

>>> Joachim tells that the Rosa 3d comic (Nostildamus) comes in issue 4

> Di$ney Comics hired someone to take that Egmont story
> and turn it 3D, and now the 3D version is the only way it's 
> ever seen. 3D
> is okay as a novelty, but I'd hate to think that's the only 
> way that story will ever be seen.

Don't worry. The story was published in most (if not all) countries in its
original format, back in 1990. And I'm sure that future reprints in albums
etc. will also be the original, coloured, version.

--Harry.


From tatmeister at home.com  Sun Dec 30 15:00:32 2001
From: tatmeister at home.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:00:32 -0700
Subject: Lace & Tatting
References: <200112101455.fBAEtKF67781@zoon.lafn.org>
Message-ID: <000701c1913a$58e4e0d0$d3c20118@cx126537c>

Again, many thanks for the following tatting reference! I have obtained a
Gladstone Walt Disney Comic Album #13 which has this episode reproduced and
have posted a scan of it on my website:
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
Click on the "CLICK HERE FOR A SURPRISE" message just under the Tatmeister
banner at the top of the page. If there are any other Disney comic tatting
references, PLEASE let me know! Again, thanks for the specialized knowledge
and able assistance,
Dan (The Tatmeister) Rusch-Fischer

----- Original Message -----
From: <bi442 at lafn.org>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:55 AM
Subject: Lace & Tatting


> Regarding "Lace and tatting" in Disney Comics for Dan "The Tatmeister":
>
> Carl Barks had an "effeminate" Dog-nosed man ask "Assistant Guard" Donald
to
> show him to the "Lace and Tatting Collection" in the Duckburg Museum, in
his
> story, "The golden Helmet" (in Donald Duck Nr. 408 issued in July, 1952).
>
> I hope some kind and generous DCML member can make the scans for him.
Thanks,
> Rob Klein
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
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From kyrimis at cti.gr  Sun Dec 30 17:41:34 2001
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:41:34 +0200
Subject: Happy new year
In-Reply-To: <200112291101.fBTB1ql18742@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <yam8764.1716.295332600@dias.cti.gr>

> "Ik wens iedereen een bijzonder goed 2002!"

I should have no idea what the above means, yet somehow I do! ;-)
The same to you and to everyone on this list.

        Kriton  (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
                (WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You can't outthink a photon torpedo!"
-----



From kyrimis at cti.gr  Sun Dec 30 18:32:05 2001
From: kyrimis at cti.gr (Kriton Kyrimis)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:32:05 +0200
Subject: Body parts
In-Reply-To: <200112301103.fBUB3Dl31406@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <yam8764.292.295332600@dias.cti.gr>

DON:

> and that doesn't count the old books and
> comics (and T-shirts and hats and human body parts) that people also
> brought through the lines.

*Body parts*? I always thought that, when people who say that they'd give
their right arm to have your autograph, they are speaking metaphorically!

;-) [At least I hope so!]

        Kriton  (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
                (WWW:    http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You can't outthink a photon torpedo!"
-----



From acsive at mail.mira.dk  Mon Dec 31 01:35:18 2001
From: acsive at mail.mira.dk (Anders Christian Sivebaek)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:35:18 +0100
Subject: Sv:#783
Message-ID: <200112310036.fBV0ZWw0033437@mail.mira.dk>

Hi

It is nice to hear from Don about his trip to Finland - as I might have
told I'm 
very lucky to have friends in Finland, one of them being Janne Heino,
who 
stood in line and had a book signed for me - including a fan-drawing,
that 
I'm very happy about. 

> If you think you know a way to *force*
> them, as you suggest, to tell me when they use one of my stories, I'd
also
> be interested in you forcing them to PAY me when they use my stories!
That
> would be of even *more* use to me! (But lotsa luck.)
Hmm - that's gonna be a hard one - and I don't think I would be able to
do such 
a thing. Not within this firm from who these publishers have the
license. 

> I know that the Egmont countries must be getting ready to use "Forget
It!"
> and "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" since they are now asking me for
> covers and script help. But I still can't tell you what issues the
stories
> will be in. 
I'll be sure to tell, when I find out (might only be one week before,
but still)

> >>>>This story is on the way in the Germany, I see on their
comicforum.
> In Spring it will come out - and Joachim tells that the Rosa 3d comic
> (Nostildamus) comes in issue 4)
> Well, that's not good news. Not to me. That was NOT a 3D story! I
never
> intended it to be so. Di$ney Comics hired someone to take that Egmont
story
> and turn it 3D, and now the 3D version is the only way it's ever
seen. 3D
> is okay as a novelty, but I'd hate to think that's the only way that
story
> will ever be seen. But please call it a "Rosa comic that somebody
made 3D",
> not a "Rosa 3D comic".
I will be sure to do so. Nevertheless I do have the comic in ... let me
think...
danish, german, italian, finnish (more languages are welcome, if you
have doubles, friends)
and all of them are the "normal" version with colors, and no 3D glasses
to be used. 
I read the comic once at Duco, and Gary found it for me - so it will be
in my collection - but that's it. 

Luckily only 3 have been made of these 3D-things, as far as I know -
one a van Horn story (with beans)
the mentioned Nostildamus, and a nightmare story with Donald, by Marco
Rota - it was in a czech weekly that I got. 

Maybe now is a good time to wish you all a Happy New Year




From fasu7 at libero.it  Mon Dec 31 11:53:15 2001
From: fasu7 at libero.it (Luca Faccioli)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:53:15 +0100
Subject: BB ' dresses 
Message-ID: <003201c191e9$5affb700$cfa31a97@486dx4100mhz>

Hi all and have an happy new year!

Only a little curiosity , perhaps the last of 2001, to anyone can help me :

We have the attitude to see the BB in their normal red shirt with yellow numbered plate, with blue trousers and green hats but when they are in prison do they usually wear the same dresses or do they have the classic prison-pyjamas with large white-blue strips ?

I don't remember exactely which is the more common look , it seems to me to have seen the BB in both ways . 

Is it correct ? 


Bye 

Luca Faccioli




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From H.W.Fluks at kpn.com  Mon Dec 31 12:37:36 2001
From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com (Fluks, H.W.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:37:36 +0100
Subject: Some Dutch news
Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452207AD0C79@l04.research.kpn.com>

I don't think I mentioned this yet on DCML...

Daan Jippes is now mainly working for Egmont. He will continue drawing the
Barks Junior Woodchuck scripts for them. He will alternate a new story with
a JW script.

The Dutch editors (Sanoma) will publish a reprint of the first Dutch pocket
book ("De Zebramossel"). This book hasn't been reprinted since 1969. Thom
Roep (chief editor) really likes the old Italian stories (Scarpa, Bottaro).

There will be a big album (something like the "Dubbelalbum" books) with long
stories drawn by Ben Verhagen. All reprints. "De reisavonturen van Donald
Duck".

In 2002, the Dutch weekly celebrates its 50 years of existence. This will
mean some extra large issues of the weekly. Plus some contests, and maybe a
"convention"-like happening.

According to a questionnaire leaflet, the current publishing schedule of the
Dutch Disney editors is as follows:

Donald Duck weekblad: 52 times a year
Donald Duck Extra: 13 times a year
Katrien: 6 times
Disney Festival: 4 times
Donald Duck pocket: 8 times
Beste Verhalen van Donald Duck: 4 times
Big Fun: once a year
Disney Filmstrips: 4 times
Donald Duck Dubbelpocket: twice a year
Oom Dagobert: twice a year (used to be 3 times... 8-( )
Winterboek/Vakantieboek: 1 each every year

That's a total of 98 comic publications every year. I'm sure countries like
Germany and Italy beat us with that, but at least Holland currently
publishes more than the USA... (I do hope the number of USA publications
will change in 2002!)

--Harry.


From donrosa at iglou.com  Mon Dec 31 14:27:29 2001
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:27:29 -0500
Subject: Human body parts
References: <200112311102.fBVB2vl10673@numerus.ling.uu.se>
Message-ID: <001201c191ff$0fb6a2c0$efeeffcc@default>

> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> *Body parts*? I always thought that, when people who say that they'd give
> their right arm to have your autograph, they are speaking metaphorically!

A few fans do give their right arm for an autograph, but I hafta return it
to them when I'm done since it's still attached to them. The "human body
parts" that I mentioned that fans sometimes bring through the lines for
signing are their own parts, still all attached. Not somebody else's. That
would cause quite a stir.



From fernandopventura at uol.com.br  Mon Dec 31 18:20:52 2001
From: fernandopventura at uol.com.br (Fernando Ventura)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:20:52 -0200
Subject: Feliz Ano Novo!
Message-ID: <000c01c1921f$85cc8860$d38fe3c8@usuario>

Hello there!!!

I'm just here to say Happy New 2002 to al my friends from DCML! :)
I also like to say that is really incredible to be part of it!

Fernando! :)
(from the not so hot summer of S?o Paulo!)



From bi442 at lafn.org  Mon Dec 31 18:20:56 2001
From: bi442 at lafn.org (bi442@lafn.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:20:56 GMT
Subject: BB dress
Message-ID: <200112311720.fBVHKtJ92718@zoon.lafn.org>

Regarding Luca Faccioli's query as to the Beagles' clothing while in prison:

Carl Barks' representations of them were ALWAYS showing their prison garb. That 
is why they each had a number plate with their prisoner numbers always on them. 
Their caps were also prison-style caps (which were worn in US prisons (I 
believe during the late 1800s and early 1900s - check some 1930s and 1940s US 
prison films). US prisons had striped (pyjama - style) suits (similar to those 
used in Nazi concentration camps - and some European prisons during the late 
1800s and early 1900s);which later changed to plain gray-coloured uniforms, 
with similat shaped caps.

Barks never portrayed The B Boys in normal civilian clothing, EXCEPT on those 
special occaisions when they NEEDED to be in disguise.  Apparantly, they were 
so blase'(accent egeu) towards the law enforcement officials, that they did not 
worry about being noticed as prisoners!!!(part of Barks' ironic humour). I 
don't remember seeing other writers and artists (Scarpa, Rota, Jippes, Milton, 
Gulbransson, Rosa, van Horn, Heijmans, Cavazzano, Branca, Vicar, etc) portray 
them differently (but perhaps some other members can fill us in on that).
Happy New Year!!! - Rob
Klein

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From frspreaf at tin.it  Mon Dec 31 22:34:23 2001
From: frspreaf at tin.it (Francesco Spreafico)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:34:23 +0100
Subject: It's a Wonderful Life
Message-ID: <052b01c19242$ec3e7ea0$58001897@alyson>

Hello, this is a quick note to let you know that I've just added a page to
my site devoted to Romano Scarpa with a 1998 article (and short interview)
by Andrea Sani about "Mickey et les Douceurs de Noel", recently reprinted in
Italy and all over Europe.
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo/vita.htm

It's only in Italian... sooner or later I'll translate it (and many more
things) in English, but... don't hold your breath :-)

Happy new year!

--
Sprea



From rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com  Mon Dec 31 23:41:11 2001
From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com (Rodney w bowcock jr.)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:41:11 -0500
Subject: 3-D ducks
Message-ID: <20011231.174434.-128031.0.rodney-selfhelpbikeco@juno.com>

The same book with the Van Horn and Nostrildamus story also had 2 Barks
10-pagers in 3D.  One being the "Knights Of The Flying Sleds" and the
other being "Rocket Wing"


rodney.

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From info at klartekst.no  Fri Dec  7 13:10:11 2001
From: info at klartekst.no (Klartekst)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:10:11 +0100
Subject: Dream of a Lifetime
Message-ID: <002a01c17f18$1f9c8aa0$8119fea9@klartekst>

Is it me, or is there a logical flaw in this story? Since the police arrest the Beagle Boys as early as page 3, why is it so important for Donald to prevent Scrooge from giving them the combination to the safe? Couldn't he just change the combination when he wakes up?

Nils from Norway
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