From dve at kabelfoon.nl  Sat Nov  1 16:30:38 2008
From: dve at kabelfoon.nl (D.M. van Eijmeren)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:30:38 +0100
Subject: Religion in Duckburg
References: <mailman.1.1225019584.3255.dcml@nafsk.se>
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Question:

Does Vidar Svendsen's site on religion in Duckburg still exist?
And if so, where?

Best,
Dani?l 



From vidar.svendsen at losmail.no  Sat Nov  1 21:40:31 2008
From: vidar.svendsen at losmail.no (svendsen)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:40:31 GMT
Subject: Religion in Duckburg
Message-ID: <20081101214064.SM01736@[82.116.64.43]>

Daniel:
>>Does Vidar Svendsen's site on religion in Duckburg still exist?
>>And if so, where?
my site was hacked by a Tyrkish hacker. I hope to be online again in a short while (I've moved, so I haven't had time to talk to my friend hosting htttp://www.vidarland.com).
I can send the pages in pdf if you need them.
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From: UNDBKB at aol.com (UNDBKB at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:23:08 EST
Subject: Halloween Donald
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From timoro at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 01:50:03 2008
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:50:03 +0200
Subject: Censorship in nordic printing of The Swamp of No Return?
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Hello all!
 
The first Finnish printing (1967) of Barks' story The Swamp of No Return had Brutopian crest with shackle and sledgehammer wiped out (censored perhaps - since it is so close to Soviet Union's sickle and hammer), so I wonder if this was done by Danish editors already. Is this the case with other nordic printings of this story too? Norwegian Donald Duck & Co 1966-15, Swedish Kalle Anka & C:o 1966-14, Danish Anders And & Co. 1966-15? Page 2 panel 6 of the story.
 
Best Wishes
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From germund_vw at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 12:47:03 2008
From: germund_vw at yahoo.com (Germund von Wowern)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:47:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Censorship in nordic printing of The Swamp of No Return?
Message-ID: <703686.5649.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> The first Finnish printing (1967) of Barks' story The Swamp of No Return
> had Brutopian crest with shackle and sledgehammer wiped out (censored
> perhaps - since it is so close to Soviet Union's sickle and hammer), so
> I wonder if this was done by Danish editors already.

Yes and no. I don't have access to the US version at the moment, but in the Swedish issue, the ink lines are removed while the *color* of the crest is left unaltered (white tools in a red circle).
/Germund


      

From ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr  Wed Nov  5 14:02:26 2008
From: ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr (ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:02:26 +0200 (EET)
Subject: African-American Disney artists?
Message-ID: <1523.193.255.76.113.1225890146.squirrel@mail.bahcesehir.edu.tr>

Hi.
Who were the earliest notable African-American artists working on Disney
cartoons and/or comics? (or, were there any?)
Best
-Kaya ?.



From timoro at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 13:27:39 2008
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:27:39 +0200
Subject: Censorship in nordic printing of The Swamp of No Return?
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Thanks! OK, it means that it was made quite probably in Danish office.
 
>> Yes and no. I don't have access to the US version at the moment, but in the Swedish issue, the ink lines are removed 
>> while the *color* of the crest is left unaltered (white tools in a red circle).^^''*''^^ Cartoonist - writer - donaldist --- Timo Ronkainen ---------------- - YO-kyl? 52 A 26 ----------------- 20540 Turku --------------------- Finland -------------------------- - 041 489 77 81------------------ - timoro at hotmail.com timoro2 at yahoo.com  ??  Personal: http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/ ??  Ankkalinnan Pamaus: http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/ ??  Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali: http://www.kvaak.fi  "Rumble on, buxom bumble bee! Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
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From dux at ca.rr.com  Fri Nov  7 19:07:07 2008
From: dux at ca.rr.com (dux at ca.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:07:07 -0800
Subject: California Comic Convention 2009
Message-ID: <3683987.327621226081227968.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>

Does anyone have any heads-up as to who if any Disney artists might attend the California Comic Con on February 22, 2009, in Orange County, California? This is relatively close to me and I'll be able to go. Wish Don Rosa could make it!

?Duxter


From dcunn74 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 01:04:59 2008
From: dcunn74 at gmail.com (Dan Cunningham)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:04:59 -0500
Subject: African-American Disney artists?
Message-ID: <f77a07a40811051604t6a59f87ey85528d0dbeb5c0f1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Kaya:

The earliest comic artistI am aware of (which does not mean there are
previous artists) was Floyd Norman who worked in both the story and
animation division of the Disney Studios since the mid-1950s. He worked on
both shorts and features, and when another Floyd (Gottfredson,
natch) retired, Floyd Norman picked up the reins on the Mickey Mouse comic
strip for King Features Syndicate for quite a while. I haven't seen any of
these, but I understand they were something of a return to the longer,
serialized early adventures, to break away from the gag-a-day format. Hmmm,
maybe Gemstone can unearth some for us one of these days for a special or
WDC&S? I'd love to see 'em!

I understand Floyd Norman still does some story consulting, most recently
for the new hand-drawn "Princess and the Frog" at WDAS, and has worked for
both the Disney Animation Studio and PIXAR (I know for sure he worked
extensively on Toy Story 2 and Monsters, Inc.) Floyd is also around the
Internet and has a blog which offers a lot of great insights and info:

http://web.mac.com/floydnorman/Site/Welcome.html

I've never met him, but from reading his posts on message boards and
articles on various sites, he is a smart and savvy guy... not to mention,
extremely talented! Who knows? He might show up here someday!

- Dan
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From dux at ca.rr.com  Fri Nov  7 20:46:05 2008
From: dux at ca.rr.com (dux at ca.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:46:05 -0800
Subject: California Comic Convention 2009
Message-ID: <16090522.341221226087165556.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>

Don has informed me that he will not attend because he has not been invited. Anyone wishing to express your desire to see Don Rosa at this convention can email info at calcomiccon.com and say you want Don to be there. 

Thank you,

Duxter

---- dux at ca.rr.com wrote: 
> Does anyone have any heads-up as to who if any Disney artists might attend the California Comic Con on February 22, 2009, in Orange County, California? This is relatively close to me and I'll be able to go. Wish Don Rosa could make it!
> 
> ?Duxter





From timoro at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 15:42:33 2008
From: timoro at hotmail.com (timo ronkainen)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:42:33 +0200
Subject: African-American Disney artists?
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Hello, Kaya
 
Sure, there is at least Floyd Norman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Norman
Best Wishes
Timo
^^''*''^^ Cartoonist - writer - donaldist --- Timo Ronkainen ---------------- - YO-kyl? 52 A 26 ----------------- 20540 Turku --------------------- Finland -------------------------- - 041 489 77 81------------------ - timoro at hotmail.com timoro2 at yahoo.com  ??  Personal: http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/ ??  Ankkalinnan Pamaus: http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/ ??  Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali: http://www.kvaak.fi  "Rumble on, buxom bumble bee! Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:02:26 +0200> Subject: African-American Disney artists?> From: ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr> To: dcml at nafsk.se> > Hi.> Who were the earliest notable African-American artists working on Disney> cartoons and/or comics? (or, were there any?)> Best> -Kaya ?.> > > _______________________________________________> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
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From vidar-svendsen at c2i.net  Mon Nov 10 13:16:14 2008
From: vidar-svendsen at c2i.net (Vidar Svendsen)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:16:14 +0100
Subject: Duckburg religion
Message-ID: <4918260E.8040705@c2i.net>

Daniel:
My site http://www.vidarland.com is back online.

-- 
---------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen                 http://vidarland.com



And he said all those numbers made him numb, My site 
which (he thinks) is why they're called numbers 


From kimba_1962 at verizon.net  Wed Nov 26 19:02:24 2008
From: kimba_1962 at verizon.net (Chris Barat)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:02:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
Message-ID: <297281232.1627541227722544343.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company 
in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media:

 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp

I'll also post a link to this on my blog.  The Launchpad McQuack 
reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop.  Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD 
is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation -- 
fan!

Chris

From chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 27 00:12:00 2008
From: chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com (Chuck Munson)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:12:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
In-Reply-To: <BAY122-W241E096F83776B0D838AC9DA0A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <51221.11945.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dana,

Don't you mean "true red conservative"?  Uh wait, no, that doesn't sound right!  Makes it sound like a communist conservative - but that's hard-line.  Huh???  Oh boy, my little stars and disappointing comets, I'm soooo confused.  Chris, as our resident conservative, can you please explain this conundrum to me/us????

No wonder i can't figure politics out!

Cheers and happy Thanksgiving - and remember that in spite of anything else - politically, financially, globally - we all have our loved ones and one another and that right there is a whole lot to be thankful for.

Chuck (and Becky and Kathryn)

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
> To: "jOE Torcivia" <jtorci3511 at aol.com>, kimba_1962 at verizon.net, thft at att.net, chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com, marklungo at care2.com, "Brent Swanson" <crooper at sprynet.com>, richbutpoor at yahoo.com, gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com, rsmyers at hotmail.com, passscribe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se, otterknight at yahoo.com, jjpierce at aol.com, gweagle at eastlink.ca
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:04 PM
> I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue
> conservative would heartily approve.
> 
> To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net;
> chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com;
> dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com;
> richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com;
> rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com;
> dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com;
> jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing
> Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody
> piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From:
> jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream
> reference!  How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art
> being unexpectedly politicized?  Joe. -----Original
> Message-----From: Chris Barat
> <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia
> <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold
> <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson
> <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo
> <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard
> <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson
> <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew
> <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein
> <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers
> <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert
> <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis
> <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio
> <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce
> <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle
> <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02
> pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY
> STANDARD parody piece!
> How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge
> McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway)
> media: 
> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp
>  I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad
> McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at
> THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and
> perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan!  Chris 
> 
> 
> Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday
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From dgabbard at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 26 23:04:02 2008
From: dgabbard at hotmail.com (Dana Gabbard)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:04:02 +0000
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
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References: <297281232.1627541227722544343.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>
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I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue conservative would heartily approve.

To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net; chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com; dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com; richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com; rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com; jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From: jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream reference!  How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art being unexpectedly politicized?  Joe. -----Original Message-----From: Chris Barat <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02 pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media:  http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp  I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan!  Chris 


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From dgabbard at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 27 00:17:27 2008
From: dgabbard at hotmail.com (Dana Gabbard)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:17:27 +0000
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
In-Reply-To: <51221.11945.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY122-W241E096F83776B0D838AC9DA0A0@phx.gbl>
	<51221.11945.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Well, remember that late Uncle Scrooge where the judge sentenced the Beagles to be re-re-re... rehabilitated. 
 
Anyway even Geoff Blum enjoyed this. But frowned on the McQuack reference as non-canonical. > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:12:00 -0800> From: chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!> To: jtorci3511 at aol.com; kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net; marklungo at care2.com; crooper at sprynet.com; richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com; rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com; jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.ca; dgabbard at hotmail.com> > Dana,> > Don't you mean "true red conservative"? Uh wait, no, that doesn't sound right! Makes it sound like a communist conservative - but that's hard-line. Huh??? Oh boy, my little stars and disappointing comets, I'm soooo confused. Chris, as our resident conservative, can you please explain this conundrum to me/us????> > No wonder i can't figure politics out!> > Cheers and happy Thanksgiving - and remember that in spite of anything else - politically, financially, globally - we all have our loved ones and one another and that right there is a whole lot to be thankful for.> > Chuck (and Becky and Kathryn)> > --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > From: Dana Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>> > Subject: RE: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!> > To: "jOE Torcivia" <jtorci3511 at aol.com>, kimba_1962 at verizon.net, thft at att.net, chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com, marklungo at care2.com, "Brent Swanson" <crooper at sprynet.com>, richbutpoor at yahoo.com, gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com, rsmyers at hotmail.com, passscribe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se, otterknight at yahoo.com, jjpierce at aol.com, gweagle at eastlink.ca> > Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:04 PM> > I am too busy laughing. Carl Barks as a true blue> > conservative would heartily approve.> > > > To: kimba_1962 at verizon.net; thft at att.net;> > chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com; marklungo at care2.com;> > dgabbard at hotmail.com; crooper at sprynet.com;> > richbutpoor at yahoo.com; gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com;> > rsmyers at hotmail.com; passscribe at aol.com;> > dcml at stp.ling.uu.se; otterknight at yahoo.com;> > jjpierce at aol.com; gweagle at eastlink.caSubject: Re: Amazing> > Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody> > piece!Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500From:> > jtorci3511 at aol.comChris:That is an AMAZING mainstream> > reference! How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art> > being unexpectedly politicized? Joe. -----Original> > Message-----From: Chris Barat> > <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>To: Joe Torcivia> > <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold> > <thft at att.net>; Chuck Munson> > <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo> > <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana Gabbard> > <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson> > <crooper at sprynet.com>; Rich Chew> > <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein> > <gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers> > <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; Ken Bausert> > <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis> > <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio> > <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce> > <jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle> > <gweagle at eastlink.ca>Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02> > pmSubject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY> > STANDARD parody piece!> > How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge> > McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway)> > media: > > http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp> > I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad> > McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at> > THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and> > perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan! Chris > > > > > > Tis the season to save your money! Get the new AOL Holiday> > Toolbar for money saving offers and gift ideas.> > > 
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I added to the entry on Scrooge in Wikipedia and mention of this piece with a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck#Other_media
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From jtorci3511 at aol.com  Wed Nov 26 21:36:44 2008
From: jtorci3511 at aol.com (jtorci3511 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0500
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
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Chris:

That is an AMAZING mainstream reference!? How do you think Don Rosa feels about his art being unexpectedly politicized?? 

Joe. 


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How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media:?
?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp?
?
I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad McQuack reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation -- fan!?
?
Chris?

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From kimba_1962 at verizon.net  Thu Nov 27 02:08:39 2008
From: kimba_1962 at verizon.net (Chris Barat)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:08:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody piece!
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  Joe,

I don't know, but its appearance here suggests that the writer has been 
following Disney comics at least since 1987, when Rosa debuted (as 
opposed to being an old Barks sourdough).  Does anyone recognize the 
Rosa stories from which these panels of Magica and Scrooge/Flintheart 
sprang?  It's a long shot, but I thought I'd ask...

Chris


On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at  3:36 PM, jtorci3511 at aol.com wrote:

Chris:

That is an AMAZING mainstream reference!  How do you think Don Rosa 
feels about his art being unexpectedly politicized?

Joe.

-----Original Message-----
 From: Chris Barat <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>
To: Joe Torcivia <JTorci3511 at aol.com>; Mark Arnold <thft at att.net>; Chuck 
Munson <chuckm_1962 at yahoo.com>; Mark Lungo <marklungo at care2.com>; Dana 
Gabbard <dgabbard at hotmail.com>; Brent Swanson <crooper at sprynet.com>; 
Rich Chew <richbutpoor at yahoo.com>; David Gerstein 
<gdavid at gemstonepublishing.com>; Richard Smyers <rsmyers at hotmail.com>; 
Ken Bausert <passscribe at aol.com>; Disney Comics Mailing Lis 
<dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>; Mike Demcio <otterknight at yahoo.com>; Jeff Pierce 
<jjpierce at aol.com>; Gregory Weagle <gweagle at eastlink.ca>
Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 1:02 pm
Subject: Amazing Disney Comics references in WEEKLY STANDARD parody 
piece!

How about THIS for an unexpected reference to Scrooge McDuck and company 
in popular (with conservatives, anyway) media:

 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp 
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp>

I'll also post a link to this on my blog. The Launchpad McQuack 
reference REALLY caused my eyes to pop. Someone at THE WEEKLY STANDARD 
is definitely a Disney comics -- and perhaps even Disney TV animation -- 
fan!

Chris
 
<http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/853tzmct.asp>
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From ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr  Thu Nov 27 21:13:58 2008
From: ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr (ozkaracalar at bahcesehir.edu.tr)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:13:58 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Bibo & Lang Mickey Mouse Book
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Hi,
I've recently started a new blog on vintage Disney comics & books, in
which the last posti as of now, includes full (which I believe is the
first time they have been available on the net in full) scans of Bibo &
Lang's Mickey Mouse Book from 1930, the first ever Mickey Mouse
publication:
http://kayaozkaracalar3.blogspot.com/
Enjoy
-Kaya ?.




From schulte at teacher.com  Sat Nov 29 01:52:55 2008
From: schulte at teacher.com (Leo Schulte)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:52:55 -0500
Subject: Scrooge and the Mortgage Crisis
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Greetings to all!

The satire in the Weekly Standard with Uncle Scrooge asking for government assistance indeed had to come from a Disney Comics fan!

But I have to object: Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by investing in subprime mortgages, which were mainly about political correctness in getting mortgages to people without the means to support a house or pay a mortgage, and then "bundling them" to be sold to investors higher up the food chain in an irrational bubble market.

Instead, Scrooge would now be buying the parts of the "wreckage" that could be rehabilitated and looking to increase his fortune in the future!

If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by more Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape!  Uncle Scrooge is all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment, individual freedom, and the absence of whining about how awful things are!  If you think things are awful, then you get to work and make things better!

Best Wishes!

L. Schulte

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From lpj at forfatter.dk  Sun Nov 30 14:31:46 2008
From: lpj at forfatter.dk (Lars Jensen)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:31:46 +0100
Subject: Scrooge and the Mortgage Crisis
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I just *had to* comment on this one:

Leo Schulte wrote:

> Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by investing in subprime mortgages,
> which were mainly about political correctness in getting mortgages to
> people without the means to support a house or pay a mortgage, and then
> "bundling them" to be sold to investors higher up the food chain in an
> irrational bubble market.

Let me get this straight: the current financial and economic crises which
are causing lots of firings, factory closures, loss of pensions,
bankruptcies etc. etc. all over the globe are *not* primarily caused by
irresponsible greed in the financial sector in combination with
international political instability and failed economic policies... but
rather by "political correctness"?!?! (Whatever "political correctness" is.)

I'm stunned.

> If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by more
> Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape!  Uncle Scrooge is
> all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment, individual freedom,
> and the absence of whining about how awful things are!  If you think
> things are awful, then you get to work and make things better!

If people are hurting due to no fault of their own, they have the right to
whine. And I refuse to base my financial dispositions on a fictitious
character who stores all his cash in a glorified piggy bank.

Lars 


From bangfish at cableone.net  Sun Nov 30 21:25:08 2008
From: bangfish at cableone.net (Gary Leach)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:25:08 -0700
Subject: Weekly Standard
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And Scrooge would never take investment advice from Gyro Gearloose!

(As for mentions of Launchpad and of Donald still being in the Navy,  
the author doesn't seem to know much about the Disney Ducks outside  
of DuckTales.)

Gary

> Greetings to all!
>
> The satire in the Weekly Standard with Uncle Scrooge asking for  
> government assistance indeed had to come from a Disney Comics fan!
>
> But I have to object: Scrooge would never have gone bankrupt by  
> investing in subprime mortgages, which were mainly about political  
> correctness in getting mortgages to people without the means to  
> support a house or pay a mortgage, and then "bundling them" to be  
> sold to investors higher up the food chain in an irrational bubble  
> market.
>
> Instead, Scrooge would now be buying the parts of the "wreckage"  
> that could be rehabilitated and looking to increase his fortune in  
> the future!
>
> If Uncle Scrooge comic books were read by more Americans, and by  
> more Europeans, our economies would be in much better shape!  Uncle  
> Scrooge is all about hard work, personal pride in accomplishment,  
> individual freedom, and the absence of whining about how awful  
> things are!  If you think things are awful, then you get to work  
> and make things better!
>
> Best Wishes!
>
> L. Schulte
>

