From k.perhonen at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 18:11:08 2012
From: k.perhonen at gmail.com (Kristel)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:11:08 +0200
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <2F18BD18-2E22-40BE-A67B-D73A2C1B0C95@gmail.com>


Don Rosa is one of the best cartoonists, wonder if he be a fan of email?

L?hetetty Don Rosa fanin Ipadista



From cato at rock.com  Thu Jan 19 00:58:52 2012
From: cato at rock.com (Cato Elder)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:58:52 -0500
Subject: Don Rosa and E-Mail
Message-ID: <20120118235852.7E49BAF7C2@c-in3ws--03-02.sv2.lotuslive.com>

Greetings to Kristel and Everyone Else!

It is hard to say if Don Rosa checks anything here any more: I know he
responded back in the good old days, when he was still active in creating
comic stories.

Perhaps you do not know that he has suffered eye problems prompting his
retirement.

I agree: Don Rosa was a most worthy heir to the legacy of the great Carl
Barks!? Is there anyone out there from a younger generation worthy to
join them in a Trinity of sorts??? [IMAGE]? I know that Don Rosa was very
pessimistic about the future of comic books and comic stories in general.

But perhaps? someone is waiting to join them in spite of the obstacles!

Best Wishes to all!

Leo Schulte

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From alexander-antonander at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 18 15:29:21 2012
From: alexander-antonander at hotmail.com (Alexander Mariager Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:29:21 +0100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SNT109-W437E111582830D7888897B88810@phx.gbl>


 
Does Don Rosa anwser his e-mails? I sent him an e-mail three days ago 19: 01 Danish time, but still no anwser... It is somehawt werid...
Maybe Don is busy
 
Best regards
Danish Donaldist Association member no. 299, Alexander 		 	   		  
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From hfl at inducks.org  Thu Jan 19 13:08:48 2012
From: hfl at inducks.org (hf at inducks)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:08:48 +0100
Subject: Rosa
Message-ID: <007601ccd6a3$19c5aba0$4d5102e0$@inducks.org>

As I wrote here some time ago, Rosa wrote on an Italian forum that he only
reads and writes messages on that forum.
So I think he is not reading DCML anymore. I'm not sure about his private
mailbox.

--Harry.



From bangfish at cableone.net  Thu Jan 19 21:23:19 2012
From: bangfish at cableone.net (Gary Leach)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:23:19 -0700
Subject: Up and Coming Talent
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1326971582.19553.dcml@nafsk.se>
References: <mailman.2.1326971582.19553.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <23B9F029-9E33-4293-B803-78174C94AA32@cableone.net>

I'm with Leo (and many, many others) in hoping there are talents making their way along the career track who will join Barks, Rosa and Van Horn in carrying on the legacy of the Disney Ducks in comics. It just doesn't appear that a career track of that sort exists here in the US anymore. Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats who remain under-acknowleged over here?

Gary

On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:

> Greetings to Kristel and Everyone Else!
> 
> It is hard to say if Don Rosa checks anything here any more: I know he responded back in the good old days, when he was still active in creating comic stories.
> 
> Perhaps you do not know that he has suffered eye problems prompting his retirement.
> 
> I agree: Don Rosa was a most worthy heir to the legacy of the great Carl Barks!  Is there anyone out there from a younger generation worthy to join them in a Trinity of sorts?     I know that Don Rosa was very pessimistic about the future of comic books and comic stories in general.
> 
> But perhaps  someone is waiting to join them in spite of the obstacles!
> 
> Best Wishes to all!
> 
> Leo Schulte

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From myaklin at g4.net  Thu Jan 19 21:43:44 2012
From: myaklin at g4.net (Matt Yaklin)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:43:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Up and Coming Talent
In-Reply-To: <23B9F029-9E33-4293-B803-78174C94AA32@cableone.net>
References: <mailman.2.1326971582.19553.dcml@nafsk.se>
	<23B9F029-9E33-4293-B803-78174C94AA32@cableone.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201191538530.44374@boston.g4.net>


Too bad copyright laws keep ?every? single Disney character under
lock and key here in the USA.

If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
Scrooge story?

matt at g4.net

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Gary Leach wrote:

> I'm with Leo (and many, many others) in hoping there are talents making their way along the career track
> who will join Barks, Rosa and Van Horn in carrying on the legacy of the Disney Ducks in comics. It just
> doesn't appear that a career track of that sort exists here in the US anymore. Is it reasonable to hope
> such career tracks still exist in other climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured
> the likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats who remain under-acknowleged
> over here?
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:
>
>       Greetings to Kristel and Everyone Else!
>
>       It is hard to say if Don Rosa checks anything here any more: I know he responded back in the
>       good old days, when he was still active in creating comic stories.
>
>       Perhaps you do not know that he has suffered eye problems prompting his retirement.
>
>       I agree: Don Rosa was a most worthy heir to the legacy of the great Carl Barks!? Is there
>       anyone out there from a younger generation worthy to join them in a Trinity of
>       sorts????[ob_smileys14.gif] ? I know that Don Rosa was very pessimistic about the future of
>       comic books and comic stories in general.
>
>       But perhaps? someone is waiting to join them in spite of the obstacles!
>
>       Best Wishes to all!
>
>       Leo Schulte
> 
> 
> 
>

From UNDBKB at aol.com  Thu Jan 19 15:36:24 2012
From: UNDBKB at aol.com (UNDBKB at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:36:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Don answering emails
Message-ID: <15220.3a80f339.3c498468@aol.com>



Alexander writes:

Does Don  Rosa answer his e-mails? I sent him an e-mail three days ago 19: 
01 Danish  time, but still no answer... It is somewhat weird...
Maybe Don is  busy
He gets 100's every day, nobody answers all emails.  Just not enough time 
in the day!
 
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From alexander-antonander at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 20 12:38:44 2012
From: alexander-antonander at hotmail.com (Alexander Mariager Nielsen)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:38:44 +0100
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1327057983.17116.dcml@nafsk.se>
References: <mailman.2.1327057983.17116.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W63D8718C90755231D1259088870@phx.gbl>



 Witch Italian forum is that? Is it a donaldist forum? And are he writing in Italian?

From: dcml-request at nafsk.se
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 3
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:13:03 +0100

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From: hfl at inducks.org
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:08:48 +0100
Subject: Rosa

As I wrote here some time ago, Rosa wrote on an Italian forum that he only
reads and writes messages on that forum.
So I think he is not reading DCML anymore. I'm not sure about his private
mailbox.
 
--Harry.
 
 
 


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From: bangfish at cableone.net
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:23:19 -0700
Subject: Up and Coming Talent



I'm with Leo (and many, many others) in hoping there are talents making their way along the career track who will join Barks, Rosa and Van Horn in carrying on the legacy of the Disney Ducks in comics. It just doesn't appear that a career track of that sort exists here in the US anymore. Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats who remain under-acknowleged over here?


Gary


On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:
Greetings to Kristel and Everyone Else!

It is hard to say if Don Rosa checks anything here any more: I know he responded back in the good old days, when he was still active in creating comic stories.

Perhaps you do not know that he has suffered eye problems prompting his retirement.

I agree: Don Rosa was a most worthy heir to the legacy of the great Carl Barks!  Is there anyone out there from a younger generation worthy to join them in a Trinity of sorts?     I know that Don Rosa was very pessimistic about the future of comic books and comic stories in general.

But perhaps  someone is waiting to join them in spite of the obstacles!

Best Wishes to all!

Leo Schulte


--Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
From: myaklin at g4.net
CC: dcml at nafsk.se
To: bangfish at cableone.net
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:43:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Up and Coming Talent

 
Too bad copyright laws keep ?every? single Disney character under
lock and key here in the USA.
 
If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
Scrooge story?
 
matt at g4.net
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Gary Leach wrote:
 
> I'm with Leo (and many, many others) in hoping there are talents making their way along the career track
> who will join Barks, Rosa and Van Horn in carrying on the legacy of the Disney Ducks in comics. It just
> doesn't appear that a career track of that sort exists here in the US anymore. Is it reasonable to hope
> such career tracks still exist in other climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured
> the likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats who remain under-acknowleged
> over here?
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:
>
>       Greetings to Kristel and Everyone Else!
>
>       It is hard to say if Don Rosa checks anything here any more: I know he responded back in the
>       good old days, when he was still active in creating comic stories.
>
>       Perhaps you do not know that he has suffered eye problems prompting his retirement.
>
>       I agree: Don Rosa was a most worthy heir to the legacy of the great Carl Barks!  Is there
>       anyone out there from a younger generation worthy to join them in a Trinity of
>       sorts?   [ob_smileys14.gif]   I know that Don Rosa was very pessimistic about the future of
>       comic books and comic stories in general.
>
>       But perhaps  someone is waiting to join them in spite of the obstacles!
>
>       Best Wishes to all!
>
>       Leo Schulte
> 
> 
> 
>


--Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
From: UNDBKB at aol.com
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:36:24 -0500
Subject: Don answering emails



 
 
Alexander writes:
Does Don Rosa answer his e-mails? I sent him an e-mail three days ago 19: 01 Danish time, but still no answer... It is somewhat weird...
Maybe Don is busy
He gets 100's every day, nobody answers all emails. Just not enough time in the day!
  		 	   		  
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From npanag_2 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 20 18:20:52 2012
From: npanag_2 at yahoo.com (NIKOS PANAGIOTOPOYLOS)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:20:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: I send you Scrooge  I hope you like it
Message-ID: <1327080052.57549.YahooMailNeo@web111705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi, I post here a drawing of $crooge mc Duck.
as a file attachment.
?I created this many years ago.
I did not put any colors so it is not complete.
If you want,?
Tell me what drawing you want, and maybe
I try to draw it and post it here.
My nickname is eikonikos.
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From UNDBKB at aol.com  Fri Jan 20 17:20:12 2012
From: UNDBKB at aol.com (UNDBKB at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:20:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Don Rosa and emails/forums
Message-ID: <574.431e84be.3c4aee3c@aol.com>





So I  think he is not reading DCML anymore. I'm not sure about his  private
mailbox.

--Harry.
I know Don reads this Forum and most writings with his name attached like  
the Don Rosa facebook page. , but he remains a lurker and tends to not 
respond  to public forums. If you write about him, He sees it!
He is the "All-Seeing Watcher"!
 
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From spe at inducks.org  Sat Jan 21 09:48:25 2012
From: spe at inducks.org (Stefan Persson)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:48:25 +0100
Subject: I send you Scrooge  I hope you like it
In-Reply-To: <1327080052.57549.YahooMailNeo@web111705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1327080052.57549.YahooMailNeo@web111705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8650fba8-eefd-44a3-8089-6bab2935318c@email.android.com>

NIKOS PANAGIOTOPOYLOS <npanag_2 at yahoo.com> skrev:
>If you want,?
>Tell me what drawing you want, and maybe
>I try to draw it and post it here.

I think that it would be better if people don't post giant attachments to this mailing list. If people need to refer to an image, it is better to provide a URL to the image instead.

Stefan


From cato at rock.com  Sat Jan 21 22:47:26 2012
From: cato at rock.com (Cato Elder)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:47:26 -0500
Subject: Working With Disney Characters
Message-ID: <20120121214726.2C4642280B9@c-in3ws--03-07.sv2.lotuslive.com>

Greetings!

I am happy to see that we have some discussion here again!? [IMAGE]

Matt asked:

If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
Scrooge story?

I can tell you my brother's opinion, who has an entertainment company in California.  It is a huge hassle
to deal with Disney!  Obviously many companies do, but Disney does not make it easy: layers of
bureaucracy, pickiness, and of course a large percentage or fee for licensing the character.

His company looked into the possibility of online comic books, after Gladstone stopped publishing.
But the profitability of such a venture was not obvious.

And if you have not contracted with them for using a character, 
they will eventually find you and demand that you cease and desist...
or pay up!  [IMAGE]  Of course, that is their right: they own the characters!

Gary Leach wrote:

 Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other 
climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the 
likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats 
who remain under-acknowleged over here? 

It is nice to hear from Gary Leach!  Creativity knows no borders, 
so a future Rosa/Barks could arise any place where Uncle Scrooge and 
 the Duckburg Universe are known! 


Best Wishes!

Leo Schulte

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From nunojsilva at ist.utl.pt  Sat Jan 21 10:47:36 2012
From: nunojsilva at ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:47:36 +0000
Subject: Rosa (was: Re: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 3)
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-W63D8718C90755231D1259088870@phx.gbl> (Alexander Mariager
	Nielsen's message of "Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:38:44 +0100")
References: <mailman.2.1327057983.17116.dcml@nafsk.se>
	<SNT109-W63D8718C90755231D1259088870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <87d3ads7yf.fsf_-_@ist.utl.pt>

He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
Italian:

http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394


On 2012-01-20, Alexander Mariager Nielsen wrote:

>  Witch Italian forum is that? Is it a donaldist forum? And are he writing in Italian?
>
> --Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
> From: hfl at inducks.org
> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:08:48 +0100
>
>> As I wrote here some time ago, Rosa wrote on an Italian forum that he only
>> reads and writes messages on that forum.
>> So I think he is not reading DCML anymore. I'm not sure about his private
>> mailbox.

-- 
Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg


From myaklin at g4.net  Sun Jan 22 19:30:56 2012
From: myaklin at g4.net (Matt Yaklin)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:30:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Working With Disney Characters
In-Reply-To: <20120121214726.2C4642280B9@c-in3ws--03-07.sv2.lotuslive.com>
References: <20120121214726.2C4642280B9@c-in3ws--03-07.sv2.lotuslive.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201221326440.80984@boston.g4.net>


Inline below:

> Greetings!
> 
> I am happy to see that we have some discussion here again!?
> [ob_smileys11.gif]
> 
> Matt asked:
> 
> If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
> they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
> Scrooge story?
> I can tell you my brother's opinion, who has an entertainment company in Cal
> ifornia.  It is a huge hassle
> to deal with Disney!  Obviously many companies do, but Disney does not make 
> it easy: layers of
> bureaucracy, pickiness, and of course a large percentage or fee for licensin
> g the character.
> His company looked into the possibility of online comic books, after Gladsto
> ne stopped publishing.
> But the profitability of such a venture was not obvious.
> And if you have not contracted with them for using a character, 
> they will eventually find you and demand that you cease and desist...
> or pay up!  [ob_smileys14.gif]   Of course, that is their right: they own th
> e characters!



Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
that is not for sale but just to share?

For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.

Would something like that run afowl of Disney?


I am just thinking out loud.

matt at G4.net



> Gary Leach wrote:
>  Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other 
> climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the 
> likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats 
> who remain under-acknowleged over here? 
> It is nice to hear from Gary Leach!  Creativity knows no borders, 
> so a future Rosa/Barks could arise any place where Uncle Scrooge and
>  the Duckburg Universe are known! 
> 
> Best Wishes!
> Leo Schulte
> 
> 
> --
> 
> rock.com
> 
> 
>

From methanal at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 22:36:18 2012
From: methanal at gmail.com (Herbert Snorrason)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: Working With Disney Characters
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201221326440.80984@boston.g4.net>
References: <20120121214726.2C4642280B9@c-in3ws--03-07.sv2.lotuslive.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1201221326440.80984@boston.g4.net>
Message-ID: <4F1C8152.6000908@gmail.com>

On sun 22.jan 2012 18:30, Matt Yaklin wrote:
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
Considering that Disney is a prominent part of the cheerleading crowd
for SOPA/PIPA and doesn't mind introducing a censorship regime to
protect their bottom line ... yes. Unfortunately.

With greetings,
  Herbert Snorrason

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From hfl at inducks.org  Mon Jan 23 00:35:31 2012
From: hfl at inducks.org (hf at inducks)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:35:31 +0100
Subject: Rosa
Message-ID: <00f401ccd95e$87f252a0$97d6f7e0$@inducks.org>

Nuno J. Silva to Alexander Mariager Nielsen:

> He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
> Italian:
> 
> http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394

Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Some of these volunteers can be seen on photos 1 and 3 on this page:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/j2011/p11-01.html

:-)
--Harry.



From alexander-antonander at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 23 12:44:04 2012
From: alexander-antonander at hotmail.com (Alexander Mariager Nielsen)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:44:04 +0100
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1327317183.8283.dcml@nafsk.se>
References: <mailman.2.1327317183.8283.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W654ADE316868B0236ED0BF888A0@phx.gbl>


Harry wrote:
 Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.


 
Will he then awnser in English if you write in English?
From: dcml-request at nafsk.se
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 7
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:13:03 +0100

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From: myaklin at g4.net
CC: dcml at nafsk.se
To: cato at rock.com
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:30:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters

 
Inline below:
 
> Greetings!
> 
> I am happy to see that we have some discussion here again! 
> [ob_smileys11.gif]
> 
> Matt asked:
> 
> If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
> they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
> Scrooge story?
> I can tell you my brother's opinion, who has an entertainment company in Cal
> ifornia.  It is a huge hassle
> to deal with Disney!  Obviously many companies do, but Disney does not make 
> it easy: layers of
> bureaucracy, pickiness, and of course a large percentage or fee for licensin
> g the character.
> His company looked into the possibility of online comic books, after Gladsto
> ne stopped publishing.
> But the profitability of such a venture was not obvious.
> And if you have not contracted with them for using a character, 
> they will eventually find you and demand that you cease and desist...
> or pay up!  [ob_smileys14.gif]   Of course, that is their right: they own th
> e characters!
 
 
 
Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
that is not for sale but just to share?
 
For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
 
Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
 
 
I am just thinking out loud.
 
matt at G4.net
 
 
 
> Gary Leach wrote:
>  Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other 
> climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the 
> likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats 
> who remain under-acknowleged over here? 
> It is nice to hear from Gary Leach!  Creativity knows no borders, 
> so a future Rosa/Barks could arise any place where Uncle Scrooge and
>  the Duckburg Universe are known! 
> 
> Best Wishes!
> Leo Schulte
> 
> 
> --
> 
> rock.com
> 
> 
>



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From: methanal at gmail.com
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters

On sun 22.jan 2012 18:30, Matt Yaklin wrote:
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
Considering that Disney is a prominent part of the cheerleading crowd
for SOPA/PIPA and doesn't mind introducing a censorship regime to
protect their bottom line ... yes. Unfortunately.
 
With greetings,
  Herbert Snorrason
 



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From: hfl at inducks.org
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:35:31 +0100
Subject: Rosa

Nuno J. Silva to Alexander Mariager Nielsen:
 
> He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
> Italian:
> 
> http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394
 
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Some of these volunteers can be seen on photos 1 and 3 on this page:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/j2011/p11-01.html
 
:-)
--Harry.
 
 
 
 		 	   		  
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From bangfish at cableone.net  Mon Jan 23 17:44:04 2012
From: bangfish at cableone.net (Gary Leach)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:44:04 -0700
Subject: Hobby Use
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1327317183.8283.dcml@nafsk.se>
References: <mailman.2.1327317183.8283.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <071DA76C-8C18-4E9F-A3B1-4442494C7024@cableone.net>

One can take it as a given that any and all properties trademarked and/or copyrighted by Disney are off limits to all unauthorized use, whether such use is intended for profit or not. Even Fair Use is something granted only the very narrowest latitude, and I very much doubt a "hobby" project such as described below would fall within that latitude.

Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal, to take that position on intellectual property, but they, along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much the way of the business world in these times.

Gary

On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:

> Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
> that is not for sale but just to share?
> 
> For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
> They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
> Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
> them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
> for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
> 
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
> 
> 
> I am just thinking out loud.

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From dve at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Jan 24 12:44:23 2012
From: dve at kabelfoon.nl (D.M. van Eijmeren)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:44:23 +0100
Subject: Hobby Use
References: <mailman.3.1327403582.2540.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <B5C1B7F8694D4E93896CB3EE58A3782C@c0f7ee181b9a44>

GARY LEACH, 23-01-2012:

> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.

I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.

Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.

Best wishes,
Dani?l


From spe at inducks.org  Wed Jan 25 12:10:26 2012
From: spe at inducks.org (Stefan Persson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:10:26 +0100
Subject: Hobby Use
In-Reply-To: <B5C1B7F8694D4E93896CB3EE58A3782C@c0f7ee181b9a44>
References: <mailman.3.1327403582.2540.dcml@nafsk.se>
	<B5C1B7F8694D4E93896CB3EE58A3782C@c0f7ee181b9a44>
Message-ID: <ae89c805-26eb-42b9-bd16-9c38f87ca8e2@email.android.com>

"D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl> skrev:
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.

A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.

Stefan


From alexander-antonander at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 25 13:49:29 2012
From: alexander-antonander at hotmail.com (Alexander Mariager Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:49:29 +0100
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9
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References: <mailman.2.1327489981.353.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W6FEA3F87C2A0AEB5A08CA88880@phx.gbl>



 Daniel, you must be right about Disney not being the copyright holders of the generation. They have not yet seen the Donaldist organizasions, like Danish Donaldist Society...

I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole world...




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From: dve at kabelfoon.nl
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:44:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use

GARY LEACH, 23-01-2012:
 
> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.
 
I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.
 
Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.
 
Best wishes,
Dani?l
 
 


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From: spe at inducks.org
To: dve at kabelfoon.nl; dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:10:26 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use

"D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl> skrev:
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.
 
A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.
 
Stefan
 
 
 		 	   		  
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From ola.martinsson at ericsson.com  Fri Jan 27 10:05:12 2012
From: ola.martinsson at ericsson.com (Ola Martinsson)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:05:12 +0100
Subject: Would someone be willing to bid for this item in my place on ebay ?
	I can't because I'm from Sweden.
Message-ID: <8BB85B4B99C85249B3D5D006D534001D3F5BC477B1@ESESSCMS0361.eemea.ericsson.se>

Hi !

I have been looking for Pinocchio Kite Fun Book now for many years. I have seen it on ebay three times and on all occasions i couldn't bid for it because I'm from Sweden.
Pinocchio Kite Fun Book is up on ebay again and again I can't bid for it because I'm from Sweden. Furthermore the seller can't be contacted so it doesn't help if I could send it to a middle man in the US. So my only option to get this would be if someone would be willing to bid for it in my place and then send it on to me. This person can of course charge any fee that he/she thinks is reasonable for this favour. If someone is willing to help then please mail me privately at ola.martinsson at ericsson.com and ola-p.martinsson at telia.com, Thanks.



Ola in snowy cloudy Stockholm, -1 C

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From dve at kabelfoon.nl  Thu Jan 26 13:11:52 2012
From: dve at kabelfoon.nl (D.M. van Eijmeren)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:11:52 +0100
Subject: Hobby Use
References: <mailman.3.1327576383.13424.dcml@nafsk.se>
Message-ID: <2CB10E648EC54056A7C203A11E8A5209@c0f7ee181b9a44>

ALEXANDER NIELSEN, 25-01-2012:

> Daniel, you must be right about Disney not being the copyright
> holders of the generation. They have not yet seen the Donaldist
> organizasions, like Danish Donaldist Society...
>
> I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what
> would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole
> world...

I'm sure that Disney has seen such sites. Disney has internet and can find
those sites just as easily as anyone else.
Disney seems to have a policy of  "don't ask, don't tell". And this means
we're already talking too much.

Officially, Disney can never approve those sites. That would harm their
copyrights, which a copyright holder has to defend in order to keep those
rights. And so I think they act as if they look the other way, as if
fansites don't exist. It's all they can do, to let us have our fun.

I don't understand why Disney is pictured as a company to be afraid of,
concerning fansites. In comparison with the Tintin heirs, they are obviously
very tolerant in letting fans do what they want.
I think there is enough reason for Disney fans to be thankful towards
Disney, rather than being afraid.

Best wishes,
Dani?l


From cato at rock.com  Sat Jan 28 14:17:38 2012
From: cato at rock.com (Cato Elder)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:17:38 -0500
Subject: Error In Rosa's "Island At The Edge Of Time"
Message-ID: <20120128131738.9A60315EFFF@c-in3ws--03-03.sv2.lotuslive.com>

Greetings to Everyone!

I was revisiting Don Rosa's Island at the Edge of Time and on page 4
Uncle Scrooge, Donald, and the nephews are in a plane on their way to
Africa.? The narration mentions "the 4 ducks..."

But there are 5 ducks!? Perhaps Rosa was thinking of Donald and the
nephews only, separate from Scrooge.

Or is Uncle Scrooge somehow not anatine?? [IMAGE]

Great story, like all of Rosa's efforts!? I also see that in August 2012,
we will have the 20th Anniversary of the beginning of The Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck.

I still remember quite clearly buying multiple copies of that series for
my children, even though they were teenagers!

Best Wishes!

L. Schulte

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